On Wednesday 30 November 2011 01:11, Michel Catudal wrote:
most of us do not want to do away with a good display for religious reason.
Religion have nothing to do with it.
It boils down to trust. Pure and simple. I don't trust proprietary kernel
packages. We can't check that nVidia doesn't spy
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 21:10 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:40:34 schreef Michael Scherer:
[...]
There is several pragmatic reasons for that and, there is also some long
term harm by shipping more and more proprietary software like :
[...]
Personally, I aim
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Michel Catudal wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 08:40, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
I wouldn't like to follow the OpenBSD way...
Why ?
They managed to be a highly recognized system, seen as one of the best
in his
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 10:14 +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
Am Dienstag, 29. November 2011, 10:07:16 schrieb Robert Fox:
We are not proposing that such packages be included in the ISOs - just
available in a repository which we can trust and know that it works . .
And that's the problem. As misc
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
them, I believe we need to offer the ability and the choice.
Yes, it can give a hint :
- fedora does not
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:08, Robert Fox l...@foxconsult.net wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 11:05 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it
An immidiate solution, albeit not really a sustainable one, is to add
the missing provides to our libxdamage package; however, doing this
opens the door to have package x providing n different version of libx
or binaryx so it could only really be used if we knew that there was a
chance that
Le 29/11/2011 06:43, Donald Stewart a écrit :
An immidiate solution, albeit not really a sustainable one, is to add
the missing provides to our libxdamage package; however, doing this
opens the door to have package x providing n different version of libx
or binaryx so it could only really be
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
system to consider it.
Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew
Ah... and there it is...
This is how most threads like this ends up...
Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
it for you (unless
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
system to
On 29 November 2011 13:44, Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
How does one get a mentor? I'd like to learn how to package.
First you should start reading rpm documentation, tutorials, mageia
policies, etc ... Then try making a few packages, asking questions on
IRC or mailing lists if needed. And when you are ready
On 29/11/11 13:31, Robert Fox wrote:
Ah... and there it is...
This is how most threads like this ends up...
Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to complicate existing spec files with compatibility cruft, but
On 29 November 2011 14:23, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to
Thorsten van Lil skrev 29.11.2011 15:44:
Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
on Mageia, you can already do it now,
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:49:07PM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
That way if a requires from the Fedora package changes, it is easier
to chase the changes needed for Mageia's packages, nice idea, however,
this would need to be documented so people know what it is and why its
getting pulled in.
On 29 November 2011 15:44, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:49:07PM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
That way if a requires from the Fedora package changes, it is easier
to chase the changes needed for Mageia's packages, nice idea, however,
this would need to be
Am 29.11.2011 23:12, schrieb Johnny A. Solbu:
On Tuesday 29 November 2011 14:31, Robert Fox wrote:
I'd like to learn how to package.
I learned to master the magic of packaging in march of 2010, by asking two
IRC buddies on how to create an RPM package. And they where helpfull in
pointing me
Le 29/11/2011 17:37, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
On Tuesday 29 November 2011 03:47, Michel Catudal wrote:
The proper course is to provide some proprietary driver when it is impossible
to have a good free alternative.
That is a matter of oppinion.
In my oppinion the proper solution is to seek
nicolas vigier a écrit :
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Robert Fox wrote:
If you watch what the other major distros are doing related to this
topic - it may give a hint. I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
them, I believe we need to offer the ability and the choice.
Yes, it can give
Olav Vitters a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:43:30AM +, Donald Stewart wrote:
But, as said earlier, this isn't really something that we can do
sustainable so..
Could do it on a best effort basis in a special meta package. I'd be
annoyed to complicate existing spec files
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libXdamage(x86-32))
Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
Thx,
R.Fox
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 10:52:11 schrieb Robert Fox:
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libXdamage(x86-32))
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:03 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 10:52, Robert Fox a écrit :
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:03 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 10:52, Robert Fox a écrit :
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 11:18:47 schrieb Robert Fox:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:03 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 10:52, Robert Fox a écrit :
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 12:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
Robert Fox skrev 28.11.2011 12:17:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:03 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 10:52, Robert Fox a écrit :
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]#
Robert Fox skrev 28.11.2011 12:22:
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi --allow-nodeps teamviewer_linux\(1\).rpm
warning: teamviewer_linux(1).rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID
72db573c: NOKEY
The following package has bad signature:
teamviewer_linux(1).rpm: Invalid signature (NOT OK (no key):
On 28.11.2011 10:52, Robert Fox wrote:
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libXdamage(x86-32))
Continue installation anyway?
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 11:28 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
On 28.11.2011 10:52, Robert Fox wrote:
Is there a way to get Teamviewer working under Cauldron x86_64??
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm
A requested package cannot be installed:
teamviewer6-6.0.9258-1.i386
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I
suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted and as a
downloading script).
They are better ways to contribute to the distribution than helping
'poor little users'
'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 28/11/11 10:32 did gyre and gimble:
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I
suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted and as a
downloading script).
They are
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 12:27 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
Robert Fox skrev 28.11.2011 12:22:
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi --allow-nodeps teamviewer_linux\(1\).rpm
warning: teamviewer_linux(1).rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID
72db573c: NOKEY
The following package has bad
'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 28/11/11 10:39 did gyre and gimble:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 12:27 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
Robert Fox skrev 28.11.2011 12:22:
[root@foxbase Download]# urpmi --allow-nodeps teamviewer_linux\(1\).rpm
warning: teamviewer_linux(1).rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1
On 28.11.2011 11:32, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I
suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted and as a
downloading script).
They are better ways to contribute to the
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 12:09:27 schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
On 28.11.2011 11:32, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I
suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted and
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 12:51:14 schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
On 28.11.2011 12:31, Oliver Burger wrote:
E.g. some years ago there was quite a discussion about TrueCrypt and its
license which led to the exclusion of truecrypt from almost all major
distros. If that license issue isn't
'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 28/11/11 11:59 did gyre and gimble:
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 12:51:14 schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
On 28.11.2011 12:31, Oliver Burger wrote:
E.g. some years ago there was quite a discussion about TrueCrypt and its
license which led to the exclusion of
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 12:31 +0100, Oliver Burger a écrit :
Each and every one of those proprietary tools has to be looked at on its own.
E.g. some years ago there was quite a discussion about TrueCrypt and its
license which led to the exclusion of truecrypt from almost all major
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
On 28.11.2011 11:32, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 11:28, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
There were a few requests for TeamViewer in my local Mageia site - I
suggest to add it to our repositories (probably as tainted
Le 28/11/2011 11:45, Robert Fox a écrit :
There a few key proprietary softwares which make the Linux work a bit
easier to integrate and play nice with the others . . . Like Skype,
Picasa Teamviewer (to name a few). Other distros get this (like Linux
Mint!):
Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
Le 28/11/2011 11:45, Robert Fox a écrit :
There a few key proprietary softwares which make the Linux work a bit
easier to integrate and play nice with the others . . . Like Skype,
Picasa Teamviewer (to name a few). Other distros get this (like
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold:
Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
I'm more and more concerned about this whole attitude: you guys should
make my own life easier, because other already do it. That's just
plain consumerism.
Uhmm, converse argument
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 14:55 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Le 28/11/2011 11:45, Robert Fox a écrit :
There a few key proprietary softwares which make the Linux work a bit
easier to integrate and play nice with the others . . . Like Skype,
Picasa Teamviewer (to name a few). Other distros
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 15:25 +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold:
Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
I'm more and more concerned about this whole attitude: you guys should
make my own life easier, because other already do
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 15:10 +0100, Florian Hubold a écrit :
Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
Le 28/11/2011 11:45, Robert Fox a écrit :
There a few key proprietary softwares which make the Linux work a bit
easier to integrate and play nice with the others . . . Like
Am 28.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Robert Fox:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 15:25 +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold:
Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
I'm more and more concerned about this whole attitude: you guys should
make my own
Bringing a small bit of controversy, not on the very topic, sorry, but
on a few remarks.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 15:25, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag, 28. November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold:
I don't agree. I do think our main goal should be to provide a
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 14:40:34, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Personally, I aim for better stuff than fragile unsustainable hacks like
this. And we should not start to settle on lower standards, especially
if forced to us by non cooperative company or group. One could be
tolerable. Two,
Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:40:34 schreef Michael Scherer:
[...]
There is several pragmatic reasons for that and, there is also some long
term harm by shipping more and more proprietary software like :
[...]
Personally, I aim for better stuff than fragile unsustainable hacks like
this. And
Le 28/11/2011 05:39, Robert Fox a écrit :
I just wanted to understand why the package from the website states
32/64 bit but so much 32 bit stuff needs to be installed. I am also not
cure that the 32 bit versions of the needed requires will conflict with
their 64 bit counterparts. I prefer not
Le 28/11/2011 08:40, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 à 12:09 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
I wouldn't like to follow the OpenBSD way...
Why ?
They managed to be a highly recognized system, seen as one of the best
in his category, and was able to be developed since
Le lundi 28 novembre 2011 20:55:10 Michel Catudal a écrit :
[...]
This shows a flaw in urpmi though, why doesn't it do like yum and and ask
you if you want to install the required packages?
How can urpmi install a package which simply does not exist in mageia or where
the requires does not
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