Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
This must be the document I downloaded earlier today. It was linked from the Wikipedia article on the Vienna Circle, if I recall correctly. It is rather confusing in its structure. Someone should check the print source to see if the whole manifesto is here included. I always remember this quot

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
Interesting. I wonder if I should put this or similar items into my bibliography. This is a Marxist advocating the Popperian approach as a way of circumventing doctrinal rigidification. Can you think of other Marxists who have taken this road? At 07:41 PM 4/1/2008, Jim Farmelant wrote: > >On

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
If Popper had been more scrupulous and less provincial, esp. given what I'm told is a skepticism towards institutionalism, he could have easily differentiated the intrinsic revisability of a theory vs. the specific way it has resisted testing and improvement due to a specific institutionalizati

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Alice Walker on Obama and Clinton

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
Perhaps it is too harsh to ridicule someone who comes from a troubled background, but to be honest, I think Alice Walker is more than a little bit of an airhead. I've read plenty of crap from her just like this. Much of what she writes is this sort of bathos undergirded with New Agey vacuity.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] More O debate

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
This inbred and rather unintelligent leftist breastbeating reminds me why I have quit so many groups. I wouldn't dignify this drivel with the notion of "debate". At 01:47 PM 4/1/2008, Charles Brown wrote: >http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-March/026094.html > >my "obsessive oppos

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama?s Path

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
Obama's "exotic" life story did not prevent him from gaining the respect and support of significant members of the elite. How this happened is worthy of study. People are only now reminded of Obama's "deviant" status due to the Rev. Wright flap, but neither Obama's supporters nor his detracto

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] More debate on O

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
These leftist debates look like subcultural masturbation to me. Excessive inbreeding is another way to put it. It's important not to be fooled but it's not so important to always have to prove that you're not being fooled. At 04:04 PM 4/1/2008, Charles Brown wrote: >http://lists.econ.utah.edu/

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
Also worth of consideration are Piaget's discussions on the philosophy of science (especially its turn to 'sociology of knowledge' post-Kuhn). This article (which I managed to get online for free somewhere, but I can now only find the abstract for) has been influential in pushing forward a consider

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Doug Henwood on Barack Obama

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
I'm not impressed. (1) OK, so if the demographics indicate that the Obamamania is mostly generational (though the Obamamaniacs I know are not spring chickens), does this speak well for the kids? (2) What Obama means racially according to Joaquin is unconvincing and propagandistic. I don't bu

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Doug Henwood on Barack Obama

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
I agree with this assessment. When I talked to Obamamaniacs, all of whom were white, ranging from dippy Unitarians to independentd and moderate Republicans, I couldn't find any rational basis for their support of Obama. The most rational response I got was from a white female independent who

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
The VC didn't include Husserl in their manifesto, but I think he represents an important alternative in this discussion, if we want to reconcile 'human' and natural sciences. See, for example, http://pos.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/27/3/328 Husserl, Weber, Freud, and the Method of the Human

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:19:46 +0900 CeJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Popper at one time had wanted to join the Circle and was evidently > very envious of the admiration Wittgenstein received from them > (though > by most accounts, Wittgenstein did not see himself as engaged in > their > scientif

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
> 1. Logical positivists/logical empiricists, like scientific realists, > tend to reject Marxist approaches to social sciences because they > largely reject social sciences>> Having said that, let me back up and say that the translation of The Scientific Conception of the World that I have now

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
Popper at one time had wanted to join the Circle and was evidently very envious of the admiration Wittgenstein received from them (though by most accounts, Wittgenstein did not see himself as engaged in their scientific world view and did not encourage their acclaim of him). Here is a nice summing

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama?s Path

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
Well Obama's up from the ashes story just never sat very well with me. Sure, it's a typical pattern of single moms of all races that they end up working for the Ford Foundation in the 1960s. Geraldine Ferraro got it so wrong. Obama is where he is because his mother was white and of fairly privilege

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc.

2008-04-01 Thread CeJ
>>The problem of the entire relationship between the physical sciences, the human sciences and what is known as everyday common sense is one that needs badly to be solved. Without a solution to it communism stands on weak and unconvincing ground.>> 1. Logical positivists/logical empiricists, li

[Marxism-Thaxis] Alice Walker on Obama and Clinton

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
Lest We Forget: An open letter to my sisters who are brave. By Alice Walker http://www.theroot.com/id/45469 Some excerpts: When I joined the freedom movement in Mississippi in my early twenties it was to come to the aid of sharecroppers, like my parents, who had been thrown off the land the

[Marxism-Thaxis] More debate on O

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-April/026157.html The relentless and obsessive opposition to Mike Friedman This idea that Obama is "coopting the left" is totally meaningless. And the idea that “program” – at least as a laundry list of issues -- will forever be the dividing line

[Marxism-Thaxis] Essay on the change of the nature of imperialist

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
Joaquin addresses some fundamentals in the second half of this essay. Charles What's behind the heated exchanges on the cost of being Black? Joaquin Bustelo http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-March/026012.html ---

[Marxism-Thaxis] O discussion

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
obsessive opposition to Obama Fred Feldman Walter quotes the Militant: A March 18 speech on race relations by Barack Obama helped convince a broader layer of the U.S. ruling class that he is competent to be president for the next four years. It also opened a discussion on racism in the United Sta

[Marxism-Thaxis] More O debate

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-March/026094.html my "obsessive opposition" to Obama Dbachmozart Joaquin Bustelo writes - What makes Dbachmozart include in a comment about the speech, "Somebo

[Marxism-Thaxis] Doug Henwood on Barack Obama

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
Joaquin B comments http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2008-April/026153.html Doug Henwood on Barack Obama Joaquin Bustelo Quite interesting to read this Left Business Observer article about Obama that Louis pointed to. As a progressive/radical critique it is fairly standard, and ha

[Marxism-Thaxis] Doug Henwood on Barack Obama

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Obama.html ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

[Marxism-Thaxis] Current youth predicted to have shorter life span ?

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
Current youth predicted to have shorter life span ? Charles Americans living longer (until Alex, Celeste's Beatrice's generation-- they have a shorter life expectancy than we do), ^^^ How's that ? For the first time in two centuries, the current generation of children in America may hav

[Marxism-Thaxis] A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama ’s Path

2008-04-01 Thread Charles Brown
O's mother A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama’s Path By JANNY SCOTT In the capsule version of the Barack Obama story, his mother is simply the white woman from Kansas. The phrase comes coupled alliteratively to its counterpart, the black father from Kenya. On the campaign trail, he has ca

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle ettc.

2008-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think it's in Ayer's book. I don't think it's available online in English, although I have seen it online in German and in Hebrew. Jim F. -- Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't find an English translation on the web. But I could have sworn I've seen it in print somewhere

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle ettc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
I can't find an English translation on the web. But I could have sworn I've seen it in print somewhere else. Could it be in Ayer's anthology LOGICAL POSITIVISM? At 08:56 PM 3/31/2008, Jim Farmelant wrote: > >On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:36:44 +0100 "rasherrs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > > Interest

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Womanism

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
The mere association of "womanism" with theology is sufficient to discredit it. I once heard a radio interview in which Walker said she called herself a womanist because she's a Southern woman, which is also enough to cast suspicion on her perspective. I wrote an unflattering blog entry on th

[Marxism-Thaxis] Me on Popper (was Re: Vienna Circle ettc.)

2008-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2005w00/msg7.htm http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2005w00/msg00027.htm http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2002-May/017655.html Also see Ralph's Emergence Blog http://www.autodidactproject.org/my/emergence-blog-03.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle ettc.

2008-04-01 Thread Ralph Dumain
I'm not sure why you think this is such a crucial issue at this point. I don't know what ground communism stands on at this point but it cannot stand on a pure logical relationship or a notion of inevitability in a highly contingent world. Much of the vagary in institutional Marxism--particula

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle ettc.

2008-04-01 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:36:44 +0100 "rasherrs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Interesting! > > Are there available any English copies of The Scientific Conception > of the > World? > > Wissenschaftliche Weltauffassung. Der Wiener Kreis, 1929. English translation The Scientific Conception of