I believe that's why we had that little dustup way back in 1776 with the
King of England and another one in 1812 once that was settled, life was
good for about 200 years.
That is until the present folks started thinking they were king about 40
years ago. Once a nation of free men, now a
I don't have anything *against* electric vehicles per-se, I just find
annoying the rose-colored advocacy that tries to rationalize away the
very real limitations they currently have.
I'll wait and see how they hold up and what kind of prices they command
on the used market in 5 or 10 years. I
Just one point for the save the earth go green gang. Tesla ad states 0
emissions Where does the electricity come from? If it's a coal fired
generating station [most electricity is from one] or a nuclear generating
station [there are some big ones] or from a hydro plant [also some big
ones]
The flip side to that 0 emissions argument is we never hear more than
tail-pipe emissions, rarely anything about refiner emissions. nbsp;I'm willing
to bet that a refiner is o par with power plants
Luther KB5QHU Forest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)nbsp;
Take a look at your door strike and compare it to one on a working door.
There is a small piece of plastic in the bottom that sticks out just a
little bit on a good one. This piece is what usually fails and causes the
door not to latch all of the way. Make sure that piece is there or no
amount
I read somewhere last week that someone had done the calculations, and
electric cars came out emissions neutral relative to dino fueled cars -
either MSN autos or consumers reports perhaps.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.netwrote:
The flip side to that 0
Free electricity?! I may wanta move there; 'been costing me ~ $ .09/kwh!
Wilton
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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tesla Model X unveiling
MLK said something that started with:- I have a dream.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
On 2/10/2012 7:51 AM, G Mann wrote:
I believe that's why we had that little dustup way back in 1776 with the
King of England and another one in 1812 once that was settled, life was
good for about
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
neutral is if it takes pollution in and cleans the air for normal use
just the way plants do.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)
On 2/10/2012 9:21 AM, OK Don wrote:
I
I believe that's why we had that little dustup way back in 1776 with the
King of England and another one in 1812 once that was settled, life was
good for about 200 years.
That is until the present folks started thinking they were king about 40
years ago. Once a nation of free men, now a
I think we need wood-burning steam cars, or wood gasmobiles. Carbon
neutral and will be good for after the coming collapse.
OBTW did you see that Fisker, who is supposedly building some sort of
electric car, got over a half billion $ gummint loan and is now in
discussions to revise terms of
He said relative to dino-fueled I took that to mean that they are
about the same, ultimately. Though I did have to read it twice.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Benz Hogs wrote:
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
neutral is if it takes pollution in and
No, it means that the generation of the electricity produces as much CO2
etc. as a gas car would have. Net change in CO2 and pollution is zero.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
Gerry,
Have you looked at:
Http://www.Apple.com/science/solutions/microscopy
Dan
On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
This is a longshot question in case someone has had experience with Apple
microphotography.
I'm looking for a solid state microscope
According to the Wikipedia entry for the Tesla Roadster:
Recharging with electricity from the average USA grid [...] yields a
full-cycle energy-equivalency of 44.0 mpg.
The formula for full-cycle energy-equivalency considers a bunch of upstream
factors in the production and transmission of
If you really want to get picky about this you could hand-turn the engine
several rotations first before you start it up. That should get enough oil
into the mating parts to get you going. In commercial settings that have
standby equipment this is what is done periodically.
Greg
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Ha. It's a gullwing.
http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at your door strike and compare it to one on a working door.
There is a small piece of plastic in the bottom that sticks out just a
little bit on a good one. This piece is what usually fails and causes
You can't compare the Tesla to other normal cars though, how many people road
trip in a Ferrari? Thats the market Tesla competes against. It is purely a rich
people's toy.
Anyway I find it amusing that the most common counter argument is but its
range is so limited when most people admit that
I like Gerry's advise about putting light oil (or ATF) down into those
cylinders. My mechanic advised the same thing. Hand turn before trying to
fire it up.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote:
If you really want to get picky about this you could
Listers,
Thanks for all the helpful comments, Finally some additional detail.
Well we determined that if we remove the fuel pump fuse and allow only
the remaining fuel to the engine the car WILL start when it's cold.
But obviously only for a few seconds. Also determined from another
local owner
Thanks for letting us know the diagnosis and outcome. I can
understand why the owner may be relieved. The owner of the shop
probably not happy.
Listers,
Thanks for all the helpful comments, Finally some additional detail.
Well we determined that if we remove the fuel pump fuse and
I have heard Marvel Mystery Oil as a good thing to use. I have no idea
what Marvel Mystery Oil is, it is a mystery to me! I suppose any light
lubricant would be good to use, something that will creep into various
tight spaces.
--R
On 2/10/12 3:59 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:
I like Gerry's
That is called fire from the heat of friction. Friction between the
loan company and the insurance company, and in this case, the mechanic!
A successful fire!
--R
On 2/10/12 4:08 PM, Troy Kocher wrote:
In my particular case this car wasn't so lucky. Instead of removing
the fuse, the
Salsa con merde del gato -- muy sabrosa!
--R
On 2/9/12 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Compost ale??
On 2/9/12, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
You might want to consider converting some of your agricultural products
into a more transportable and stable version.
On 10/02/2012 2:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You can't compare the Tesla to other normal cars though, how many people road
trip in a Ferrari? Thats the market Tesla competes against. It is purely a rich people's
toy.
Anyway I find it amusing that the most common counter argument is but its
Total sales for ALL electric cars in USA , I believe, are quoted as less
than 10,000 units, Tesla, for all it's hype will be less than a thousand
units.
I don't see the electric grid being stressed any time soon... add to that
equation all the now empty to be foreclosed homes plus loss of jobs or
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine pre-start oiling coming back from long term
storage
I have heard Marvel Mystery Oil as a good thing to use. I have no idea
what Marvel Mystery Oil
While driving around town today, we found a 240D automatic sitting in a
driveway. It’s straight, nice cream (not sure of the proper name) interior
with some sort of yellow exterior full of moss/mold. We wrote a note hoping
for a response from the owners who weren’t home. It would be a good
some sort of yellow exterior full of moss/mold.
I think you mean Oregon Rust.
For some reason it really likes the cracks between body panels and moldings
on old M-Bs...
Alez
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You PASSED it?! 'Didn't know they were passable. ;)
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From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tesla Model X unveiling tonight
On 10/02/2012
Yeahbut its NOT a small economy car. Its a quite powerful sports car. Did you
miss the 248HP electric motor? Remember thats 248HP at 0rpm. 0-60 in 3.9
seconds. A Nissan Leaf competitor this is not.
How many people road trip in their Ferrari? The almost universal about electric
cars is the
Ivory, # 623?
Wilton
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From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:33 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Found a 240D right down the street!
While driving around town today, we found a 240D automatic
I used to commute with a guy who had a Lotus Elise, he'd drive it two or three
times a week in the spring, summer and fall.
Seeing one out on the highway isn't that surprising really, its a toy car, for
fun jaunts here and there...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:48:58 -0600
From: Randy
...No, it means that the generation of the electricity produces as much
CO2
etc. as a gas car would have. Net change in CO2 and pollution is zero...
And which type of generation would this be? Hydro, nuke, coal-fired? Sounds
like the author of this article (where??) could tailor his
...According to the Wikipedia entry for the Tesla Roadster: Recharging
with electricity from the average USA grid [...] yields a full-cycle
energy-equivalency of 44.0 mpg.
The formula for full-cycle energy-equivalency considers a bunch of
upstream factors in the production and
In my particular case this car wasn't so lucky. Instead of removing
the fuse, the fellow working on it simply removed the fuel line and
allowed the fuel to go on the ground. Today, the car caught fire and
is a total loss. The owner was surprisingly pleased, because after
learning about
I know I should remember but if I have heat all the time in my 83
300D can I just disconnect the plug on the heater valve on the
firewall to cut the heat off. That is if the internals on the
valve are still good, as they should be 'cause I put a rebuild
kit into it without any change. I don't
One of the arguments over here in regards to the carbon tax is that any
reductions in CO2 we make, will be gobbled up by China et al.
So we could argue that for every person that buys a zero emission
vehicle, there will be someone who buys a mid life crisis super car.
My feeling is that our
Oh you mean a car that runs on CO2?
Hendrik
who produces CO2 but has trees that get rid of some
Benz Hogs wrote:
That makes no sense. The only way an electric car could be emissions
neutral is if it takes pollution in and cleans the air for normal use
just the way plants do.
Luther
if I have heat all the time in my 83 300D can I just disconnect the
plug on the heater valve on the firewall to cut the heat off.
No, with no electricity the monovalve goes to full heat.
That's part of its fail-safe defroster mechanism.
-- Jim
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My son and I replaced the starter in his '80 240D. We ordered a Bosch reman
from Rusty at a surprisingly affordable price. The only tough part of the
job is the large cap bolts. They can be loosened from the top with a long
breaker bar if the helper is below placing the allen key socket into
Parent's Bryant (Carrier) gas furnace dead tonight. I took a look at
it, and found that the controller was flashing a code 32, which
tranlates to low induction pressure.
The induction fan was not coming on at all, so the error code made sense
from that standpoint. But why is the fan not coming
No, the valve is held SHUT by the application of power, so you will
still have heat all the time.
Replace the valve, or at least the insert -- when they go bad, they
leak and you get heat all the time.
Peter
On Feb 10, 2012, at 7:35 PM, MG wrote:
I know I should remember but if I have
-Curt wrote:
You can't compare the Tesla to other normal cars though, how many people
road trip in a Ferrari? Thats the market Tesla competes against. It is purely
a rich people's toy.
My 240D 3-pedal daily driver was purely a rich people's toy in 1984.
Well... not toy, but...
I'd like to
Good idea. I get the general idea but what is merde?
Salsa con merde del gato -- muy sabrosa!
--R
On 2/9/12 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Compost ale??
On 2/9/12, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
You might want to consider converting some of your agricultural
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2842161604.html
Not mine, would love to have huge interest in this, but no way I could
undertake a rebuild
clay
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If you have an ammeter, put power to the blower and see if it's pulling
a high amount of current. If the blower is normal, possibly a power
surge (or brownout?) took out the controller, or the board just went bad.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi)
'91 Dodge Ram 150
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