Re: [MBZ] 500E wheels (was: '87 300D maybe FS in Oregon)

2012-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: The rims currently on our '95 E320 are 210 204 06 02 7-1/2 J x 16 H2 ET 41 When I get to my storage unit in the next few days I'll take a look inside the wheels and see what's there. I believe all Mercedes factory wheels,

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread Tim C
On Jul 2, 2012 1:23 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: I have an OCZ SSD in my net book, now running Ubuntu. So far no complaints once they fixed the firmware, after 6 months or so, but it is not a computer we use a lot. Definitely the best upgrade for that computer as far as battery

Re: [MBZ] Pagoda (280SL) drain plugs?

2012-07-02 Thread Dieselhead
Can't give you the car now that it's fixed but I would have thought about it when I was getting overwhelmed with problems:) Sent from my iPhone Aww Shucks! Missed out on another drool car. Looks like I am buying another SDL instead. not a drool car. But my first SDL was a

[MBZ] 11 Months, 3000 pictures and a lot of coffee

2012-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVDrGsaDME -- next part -- ___ Daveslist mailing list davesl...@okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/daveslist_okiebenz.com ___

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. On Jun 28, 2012 10:54 PM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few changes with cheap ATF on 1-2k mile intervals before you use M1. That's only if you

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
Yes! Congratulations! Ever since I heard the list extol about the engine in that wagon, I wanted one. Loved mine while I had it. Ended up trading it to an artist for a Vespa and some cash. Now I need to get the Vespa on the road! On Jun 28, 2012 10:02 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Dave Walton
There is only one torque converter. Turn the crankshaft until the recessed hex plug is visible through the bottom window and have at it. As long as you remember to remove your socket wrench from the bottom crank bolt before starting the vehicle you will be fine. Transmission service sold by

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 09:43 AM, Kevin Slater wrote: You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. Not if they have a drain plug, which most of the older ones do. Not sure when this stopped being the norm, I'd guess when they developed lifetime sealed

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff
It's not that difficult. You just need to remove the cover plate and bar the engine over until the hex plug lines up with the opening. You're only getting about half the fluid out if you don't drain the converter. Dan On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions

2012-07-02 Thread Kevin Slater
On Jun 29, 2012 9:43 AM, Kevin Slater ksla...@mheservices.com wrote: You CAN drain the torque converter(s?), but it's a total pain in the neck. On Jun 28, 2012 10:54 PM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: If the fluid you drain is in really bad shape, consider doing a few changes with

Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
I thought the current generation of SSDs had the wear-leveling built in, so that filesystems didn't have to worry about it. Just like sealed-for-life bearings, and now transmissions, the life of your SSD is now defined by the quality of the wear-leveling, etc. Too bad if your filesystem

Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this

2012-07-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
What a great idea! My problem would be an inability to fight off the urge to sample the wines at every stop... On 7/1/12, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I want one to do wine tours, big money in wine and carting folks around to indulge around here. A green biodiesel powered limo

[MBZ] 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
The new trunk lid is finally in place. Friend came this morning at 0800 and helped me R R; very easy 10 min job. I'll make some fine adjustments to latch and hinge bolts early tomorrow morning (before it gets too hot) for perfect fit/alignment. Thanks, again, Rich and Max for your help.

Re: [MBZ] 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
BTW, If I had known about the little clips on the hinge arms and matching slots on the trunk lid to hold it in place for bolt installation, I probably would have tried the R R by myself, but I wasn't sure enough that it would work that way. I couldn't take a chance on the lid slipping and

Re: [MBZ] 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:28:39 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: The new trunk lid is finally in place. Friend came this morning at 0800 and helped me R R; very easy 10 min job. Congratulations! BTW, If I had known about the little clips on the hinge arms and matching slots on the

[MBZ] dirty oil

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and

Re: [MBZ] Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
Wow. PNW surpassed its average precip number within the first 5 days of June. Been waterlogged and cold ever since october. Might dry out in a few weeks when the sun finally comes out from behind clouds. I am thinking of putting paddle tires on Frosch clay On Jun 30, 2012, at 6:31 AM,

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
At idle near nil? Does it increase immediately with just a small bit of throttle? Obstruction in pump pickup in oil pan? Oil press on my 81 300D was suddenly at 0 at idle one day after a stop for lunch; increased nicely with a bit of throttle, drop back to 0 at idle; 3 bar at normal, etc.,

Re: [MBZ] Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
Very bearable 88 here right now; better than 100+ of last several days. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat wave Wow. PNW surpassed its

Re: [MBZ] Pagoda (280SL) drain plugs?

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
get one of the cheap prestone flush kits and run standard water until you have no more gunk in the block. Move the heater/defog valve thingy around to help flush the exchanger too. Worked well on Gump. Frosch was just removing the lower hoses and draining. Fill through the overflow tank and

Re: [MBZ] G-05

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
orielly online will order it to the store for pick up. I got three gallons that way. Took less than 8 hours clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers

Re: [MBZ] have 115 need trans

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
Ouch. Flex disk and new trans shaft On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:50 AM, drcscru...@aol.com wrote: My step son has an old 1969 220d. It seems that he was jump starting the car by rolling it down a hill to start. Any way the part (don't know the terms) that connects the trans to the driveshaft

Re: [MBZ] G-05

2012-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Never thought of that will see how much it is Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2012, at 1:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: orielly online will order it to the store for pick up. I got three gallons that way. Took less than 8 hours clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
I have found ubuntu to be far and away the easiest to install on multiple strange hardware. No idea why. Win7 is garbage unless you have piles of oem cd with drivers. Same with vista.Bound to be open source support for SSD. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread Fmiser
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: The method in the manual really works... when you remove the thermostat, you get lots of flow and lots of stuff clears up. Just for reference, since there are a lot of OM616 and OM617 motors on the list, removing the thermostat is NOT a good plan. I don't remember the

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
Near nil. Hot idle. Any throttle will change pressure up. I was thinking of dropping the oil pan and cleaning it up at next oil change. I did the last change by siphon and fill. clay On Jul 2, 2012, at 11:13 AM, WILTON wrote: At idle near nil? Does it increase immediately with just a

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jul 2, 2012 11:59 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Bound to be open source support for SSD. After reading a lot of reviews on Newegg, I'm leaning towards shelling out the extra $50 for Intel over OCZ, not only because it sounds like you get what you pay for in reliability, but

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
While its true that you should never run one of these engines without a thermostat under normal use, its part of the standard procedure when cleaning the cooling system for both early M116/M117 and OM617 engines. See Job 20-015 of the OM617 manual for example:

[MBZ] Dimitri's 240 D on Ebay

2012-07-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-240-Series-W123-1982-Mercedes-Benz-240D-Diesel-ASTRONOMICALLY-LOW-7-311-MILES-SINCE-/320931611752?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item4ab903c468 Same color scheme, anyway. I can't prove it's (not) his either way ___

[MBZ] /8 114/115 seekers

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3111938197.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/377428.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3101907076.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/3097953586.html none mine, no interest will check out any you want clay 1974 450sl

[MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
While R R trunk lid this morning, we touched nothing but the 4 bolts (2 ea. side) holding the hinge arms to the underside of lid - we merely removed bolts holding old one, lifted old one off, set new one in place and reinstalled the bolts. Immediately, though, (and still) I noticed lotsa

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe you replaces a steel lid with an aluminum one? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2012, at 4:05 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: While R R trunk lid this morning, we touched nothing but the 4 bolts (2 ea. side) holding the hinge arms to the underside of lid - we merely removed bolts

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:42:01 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: While its true that you should never run one of these engines without a thermostat under normal use, its part of the standard procedure when cleaning the cooling system for both early M116/M117 and OM617 engines.

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Streib
I have to say that Windows 7 has installed flawlessly whenever I've tried it, which has only been a few times. It's the dozens of update/reboot cycles post-install that are the pain. Ubuntu is a commercially-sponsored distribution has as a primary goal the creation of an easy-to-use Linux

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread OK Don
Yes, the M117 is double throw, just like the OM617, etc. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: The method in the manual really works... when you remove the thermostat, you get lots of flow and lots of stuff clears up. Just for reference,

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff
It's not an aluminum trunk lid versus the old one being steel, is it? I can't imagine anything else making a difference. Dan On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:05 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: While R R trunk lid this morning, we touched nothing but the 4 bolts (2 ea. side) holding the hinge arms

Re: [MBZ] 11 Months, 3000 pictures and a lot of coffee

2012-07-02 Thread OK Don
Cool! I think he spent more time taking photos than working on the engine! It's an older 3 main bearing BMC in a Triumph Spitfire. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
That's what I'm thinking. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid Maybe you replaces a steel lid with an aluminum one? Sent

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
Me, either; going out right now to check with magnet. 'Pretty sure new one is AL; 'suspect old one is steel. 'Just glanced at springs - coil on each side in compression. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] lifetime trans juice

2012-07-02 Thread RELNGSON
..Not if they have a drain plug, which most of the older ones do.  Not sure when this stopped being the norm, I'd guess when they developed lifetime sealed transmissions... The lifetime fluid idea went away about 2005 after trans warranty claims escalated. My '01 C320's 5-speed had no TC drain

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
Yep; old one is steel; new one is AL. Gonna hafta add some weight to underside of new one - a pity to haul the extra weight, but I can't have it opening so violently with SWMBO or anybody else. I think I have some strips of steel plate around here somewhere; maybe I can secure appropriate

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: SSD drive recommendations

2012-07-02 Thread clay monroe
almost too far. If I am not able to get winblows to install, I have no issue with ubuntu on that machine. These are failed hackintosh boxes from white box systems or corporate toss away. AMD or intel, ubuntu does not care what the audio or video card is, what sort of usb or firewire, wifi

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:31:51 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep; old one is steel; new one is AL. Gonna hafta add some weight to underside of new one - a pity to haul the extra weight, but I can't have it opening so violently with SWMBO or anybody else. It would be a shame to have to

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread David Bruckmann
I take it the springs can't just be moved to a different position on the arms to change the tension (like the hood springs on 115/123?) Wilton wrote: Yep; old one is steel; new one is AL. Gonna hafta add some weight to underside of new one - a pity to haul the extra weight, but I can't have

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread OK Don
One of the trunk lid springs on the 450SLC was not working (one end was not in it's slot), and it would almost, but not quite, hold the lid open. Perhaps you coud disconnect one side, and see what happens? The ither option is to find springs from the same type car that the aluminum lid came from

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe the springs are different. Might want to check with the Q to see how cheap they are. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:31:51 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep; old one is steel; new one is AL.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
You guys are on the right track... its been a while since I've looked at a W126 trunk lid in detail, but on W123s and other cars the springs had a few postions they could be placed. Euro cars with the heavy warning triangle had their springs in a different position than US cars, for example.

Re: [MBZ] The Time Has Come to Buy a Car

2012-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they are on the way to you. On 7/1/2012 6:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: 10-4 On Jul 1, 2012 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I don't have any but I will try to take some tonight, keeping in mind I have not cleaned it up yet Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Bob

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That has got to be what it is, and it can make quite a difference On 7/2/2012 5:10 PM, WILTON wrote: That's what I'm thinking. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:08 PM

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
Not sure, yet, if they're adjustable or not. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:31:51 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep; old

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
The rear ends of the springs appear to be butted up against forward ends of lid lever arms. Gonna try to find some lit. on 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread Rick Knoble
Or go bad to the yard and get the correct hinges and springs. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe the springs are different. Might want to check with the Q to see how cheap they are. ___

Re: [MBZ] Dimitri's 240 D on Ebay

2012-07-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Ha. Not mine but wish it was! When I need to sell a car I'll keep you in mind! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2012, at 4:10 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Pagoda (280SL) drain plugs?

2012-07-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I found the block drain plug. It came out easy enough so no need for the prestone thingy for now. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: get one of the cheap prestone flush kits and run standard water until you have no more gunk in the block.

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil

2012-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. May just be sludge coming out into solution. I'd probably suck out hot oil and refill, leave filter

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-07-02 Thread WILTON
'Not that simple. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid Or go bad to the yard and get the correct hinges and springs. Rick

Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave

2012-07-02 Thread Fmiser
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: The method in the manual really works... when you remove the thermostat, you get lots of flow and lots of stuff clears up. Philip wrote: Just for reference, since there are a lot of OM616 and OM617 motors on the list, removing the thermostat is NOT a

Re: [MBZ] The '95 E320 is back on the road

2012-07-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
You can easily make one out of heavy duty wire, a vice and hammer. Makes life easier if it is longer. Hendrik who has made that special tool On 02/07/12 08:21, Craig wrote: You're welcome. I figured the picture of how the fan pulley is locked would be of help to someone. A 5 mm Allen wrench