Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate speed humps, spoon drains, etc!

2013-07-07 Thread G Mann
It's not about how cool the air is.. it's about how cool you look, right? Road trash, parking blocks, they all mean nothing. Location sucks. Heat from the highway here would negate any gain from cooling.. but then, perhaps it's a "snow to air" installation.. Ohhh.. wait.. snow bank.. left that h

Re: [MBZ] Great vid -- dwarf cars

2013-07-07 Thread G Mann
Very interesting, especially so now that I know I'm only a 45 minute drive away from his place. Road trip.. for sure.. Grant... On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > http://makezine.com/2013/07/**07/ernies-handmade-dwarf-cars/

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate speed humps, spoon drains, etc!

2013-07-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jul 7, 2013 8:36 PM, "Hendrik and Fay" wrote: > > Relax, looks like an air to air intercooler. > What's the point of working out a custom mount and all the plumbing if you're just going to go air-to-air? Water-to-air intercoolers make a much bigger difference in intake air density. Alex

Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
Dieselhead wrote: II have engines sit for years and then fire right up. I don't think purge will help this problem. So, you think if the pumps were removed from good running cars, the problem isn't in storage, so we're either looking at two different sellers sticking him/me with bad pumps or

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
I don't know how far or how fast- I do know when I do my 70 mile each way commute on I95 it stays clean. About 300 miles/week @ 70- 80 mph. My recently acquired 300CD had same problem. My late father- former truck driver used to tell me " son drive a diesel like you stole it". I Disagree!

Re: [MBZ] One for Henifay

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
Better jump on this one quick http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1719800-fs-240cd-manual-turbo-diesel-w123.html#post5850406 _ Not just the steering wheel is upside down and backwards, but the battery is too. ___ http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate!

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Argh! To the pic and the coolant comment. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mail

Re: [MBZ] OM603 nicht startering

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
A fella on the OzBenz list has a mate with a 124 300D that was taken to a doctors appointment and 2 hours later wouldn't start. Here is his cry for help: I am trying to get a friend's W124 300D going and was wondering what the expected mileage life could be for one of these engines? There are

Re: [MBZ] S class road test

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
Depends on what you call "S Class" -- there has been a S chassis (for heavy) since at least 1953. That would be the 22S in a couple variants and the 280S. Peter what about the typ SS and the subsequent typ SSK? Those are S class in my book. ___ http://www

[MBZ] Was someone looking for a deal on R-134a?

2013-07-07 Thread Dave in SoCal
12 oz. for $4 at Menards through 7/14. I don't use it but seems to be a decent price for small bottles. Not available in Cali. http://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive/maintenance-fluids-additives/r-134a-refrigerant/p-1778256-c-10098.htm or avoiding line wrap issues: http://bit.ly/

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate speed humps, spoon drains, etc!

2013-07-07 Thread Rolf
I went over a couple speed bumps for a test. I will be backing into all future parking spots! this was the best fit you can get on a w124 without cutting away at the bumper support. Rolf who prefers safety Sent from my ASUS Pad Hendrik and Fay wrote: >Relax, looks like an air to air interco

Re: [MBZ] OT - Grant & big change

2013-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:11 PM, "Mountain Man" wrote: > It seems to me that someday what will be told is that similar to > espionage from USA in all affairs over the past 50 years, USA fingers > are all over the Egypt affair. > What is the play? > We are being played. Always ask "Cui Bono?" Who be

Re: [MBZ] How Hot Is Too Hot?

2013-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:38 PM, "Craig" wrote: > >> It was running about 90C this past fall after I flushed the cooling >> system. > > Is it hotter now than it was last fall when you benchmarked the 90C? Oh yes. Quite a bit hotter. >> Maybe a faulty sender? > > Too bad you couldn't rig up a wa

Re: [MBZ] Some guy takes a 220D to the track.

2013-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
I drove the 300SD up to Chapel Hill a coupla weeks ago to swap cars with my daughter. We stayed at the SIL/BIL's place, which is in a development with a bunch of speed bumps. Having driven there a lot I know how other cars handle those bumps. In the 84 SD I never slowed down, it rolled right

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate speed humps, spoon drains, etc!

2013-07-07 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Relax, looks like an air to air intercooler. Hendrik who has a lot of scrapes on the front bumper On 08/07/13 12:55, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Yeah, what Craig said. Yikes. It makes me nervous just looking at that thing and knowing there's coolant running through there. Alex __

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate!

2013-07-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jul 7, 2013 6:26 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:22:31 -0400 Rolf wrote: > > > Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front. > > > > http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/w124.1987.300d/intercooler.fitment/fmic.lights.jpg > > How about a cage to protect the intercooler from par

[MBZ] Great vid -- dwarf cars

2013-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
http://makezine.com/2013/07/07/ernies-handmade-dwarf-cars/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.oki

Re: [MBZ] How Hot Is Too Hot?

2013-07-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:18:45 -0500 Rick Knoble wrote: > Got all the brake work done on the coupe the other day and now it is > running warm. About 105C according to the gauge on the dash. Is that > too hot? Ours has been up to that temperature range, but it does come back down. Now when we were i

Re: [MBZ] OT - Grant & big change

2013-07-07 Thread G Mann
It's all above my pay grade, so I speculate only, with few fact which could be verified. It appears, however, that the save people behind current administration are heavily invested in the "Arab Spring" events. Such as, the "new president apparent" of Egypt has served as an executive with Geo Sor

[MBZ] OT - Grant & big change

2013-07-07 Thread Mountain Man
Grant has previously expressed ideas regarding big changes. What do you think of our news and Egypt? It seems to me that someday what will be told is that similar to espionage from USA in all affairs over the past 50 years, USA fingers are all over the Egypt affair. What is the play? We are being p

Re: [MBZ] Haters come hate!

2013-07-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:22:31 -0400 Rolf wrote: > Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front. > > http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/w124.1987.300d/intercooler.fitment/fmic.lights.jpg > How about a cage to protect the intercooler from parking place stop and other damage? Craig __

[MBZ] Haters come hate!

2013-07-07 Thread Rolf
Now I just need a fancy spoiler on the front. http://superturbodiesel.com/images/benz/w124.1987.300d/intercooler.fitment/fmic.lights.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.co

[MBZ] How Hot Is Too Hot?

2013-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
Got all the brake work done on the coupe the other day and now it is running warm. About 105C according to the gauge on the dash. Is that too hot? It was running about 90C this past fall after I flushed the cooling system. Maybe a faulty sender? Time for a HF temp gun... Rick Sent from my iPhon

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
I believe Rolls Royce modified the engines as a result of the previous crash. Don't know the specifics, but loss of power resulted in the crash and the cause of the low power was frozen or waxed up fuel in the engines, not the tanks. Gelled fuel is a known hazard, but for some reason cause

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > The last time something like this happened it was fuel waxing up resulting > in power loss on final approach, which I'm sure will be examined. > > How can something like that possibly happen these days? Hasn't the tendency of diesel fuel

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
I'm sure it's something unusual -- excellent airframe, not prone to squirrelyness at low speeds, good airline, experienced pilot. The last time something like this happened it was fuel waxing up resulting in power loss on final approach, which I'm sure will be examined. Peter __

Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Hey Larry, I don't know for sure but that name is what a waste gate does. Mike On Jul 7, 2013 12:30 PM, "Larry T" wrote: > Thanks Kaleb -- I am reviewing the WSM sections on the Turbo - I need your > help on determining the names of the parts. I always thought I knew what a > waste gate was -

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Which is also a more comfortable spot from a bouncy perspective and the farther forward you are it tends to be quieter. -Curt Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 10:23:53 -0400 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide     path? Mes

Re: [MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-07 Thread LarryT
Ha!! Sounds like a senior moment like I have sometimes! At least you noticed something was odd before putting the wheels back on! ;-) BTW, don't forget the lug nuts Larry (waiting for my wife to get home from work so I can try some of the great suggestions I rec'd to troubleshoot my AT p

[MBZ] Setting my hubs

2013-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I got both discs and hubs back together and on the car, now I am fixing to set the slop in the bearings. Never used the dial indicator before to do that, it is a bit fiddly. I had to come in to check how many inches 2mm is (0.078) I was doing the L side, getting the hub all greased, bearings

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Having lived within sight of this approach for nearly six months and watched literally hundreds of landings, maybe more, with the conditions in place at the time I struggle to understand how a veteran crew like this could have possibly gone low or had a tail strike on approach. The FDRs are goi

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread WILTON
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jon Agne" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? Clarification: By runway, I mean runway threshold. On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Jon

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread WILTON
Hard to beat a Boeing. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? Between the wings is the strongest part of the plane, so it wou

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread WILTON
My initial thought, too, was that somebody must've, fallen out the back when the empennage broke off. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting pl

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread WILTON
Under run- way short! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? WILTON wrote: 'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run! Over ru

[MBZ] SLS vid

2013-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haR2Q4JfWdc --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mail

Re: [MBZ] TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Larry T
Thanks Kaleb -- I am reviewing the WSM sections on the Turbo - I need your help on determining the names of the parts. I always thought I knew what a waste gate was -- actually I know what it does and what they look like on some race engines but on this 602-962 engine i have turned to the manu

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (now back to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Larry T
Thanks Peter -- I still have a number of replies to read but I need to pull the lower covers so I can start looking over the AT to see if somethingis broken..If there are plastic parts in the kick-down linkcage that's a possibility of beingbroken it's certainly something I need to check

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have a leak somewhere Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:50 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Beg to disagree. Turbo in my '83 300D has been singing to me for over 100K > miles. > Gerry > > From: "Peter Frederick" >> If you can hear the turbo, it's shot, they are very quiet. >> Just bec

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Jon Agne
Clarification: By runway, I mean runway threshold. On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Jon Agne wrote: > It hit the GROUND. The plane hit the seawall about 500' short of the runway. > Also looks like it was about 30' right of centerline. Although I hate > speculating, it looks like a classic case

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Jon Agne
Food for thought.if you are over the wings, you are also sitting over the fuel. On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Between the wings is the strongest part of the plane, so it would stand to > reason it would be safest. Problem is that all accidents are, thankfully, > u

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Jon Agne
It hit the GROUND. The plane hit the seawall about 500' short of the runway. Also looks like it was about 30' right of centerline. Although I hate speculating, it looks like a classic case of low and slow. Pilots were late in recognizing situation resulting in gear and/or tail section striki

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Between the wings is the strongest part of the plane, so it would stand to reason it would be safest. Problem is that all accidents are, thankfully, unique and what would be safest in one is not in another. I'm still impressed by the strength of that airframe. Peter _

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Every w123 I have driven you could hear the turbo. My ears are very sensitive to high frequencies and mechanical noises in general. I guess I am actually listening for it every time I drive. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.oki

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the back... The two victims sat in the last row. One incident doesn't disprove the claim that it's safest overall, just provides and example to show that it isn't safest in every crash. BTW, didn't

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Ah..guess I should pay more attention eh? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailm

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:10:08 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the > back... The two victims sat in the last row. That adage, unfortunately, was disproved years ago with a crash at Dallas and other crashes that occurred at the s

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Well, so much for the adage that the safest part of the plane is in the back... The two victims sat in the last row. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Well, it definitely hit the seawall, and perhaps the water before it hit > the seawall. Note the bright colored skin fr

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
I don't remember hearing a turbo in a W123 being normal either, but will find out soon. Certainly did not hear one in the W126 with OM617 I test drove. Volvo is another story, those sound like a police siren a couple blocks away! Peter ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, it definitely hit the seawall, and perhaps the water before it hit the seawall. Note the bright colored skin from the bottom of the tail all crushed into a roll right by the tailcone. Looks to me as if the main gear on one side and the tail hit the seawall, and the loss of the main g

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The Beeb say it was coming in low and hot. oops. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23216587 --R On 7/7/13 9:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: 'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run! Over run or under run? Is this scenario possible in a 777? We're coming in too low! Pull

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Craig
On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:51:30 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > Gotta agree with Gerry on this one. I love the faint sound of the > turbo on my 83 300d. Maybe my 2.5" straight pipe exhaust has something > to do with it...lol You and Gerry are talking about a W123 turbo. Larry, Peter, and I wer

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run! Over run or under run? Is this scenario possible in a 777? We're coming in too low! Pull up! Pull up! Oops, we pulled up so hard it hit tail first! Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and use

Re: [MBZ] Update 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain

2013-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Didn't you say that this _had_ been obstructed, and had been cleaned out by somebody? Over-aggressive cleaning, or perhaps a dirt-clogged and water-filled drain channel went through a freeze cycle? Your car's a bit young to exhibit aging rubber syndrome there. looking for service manual instruc

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread WILTON
'Hit the seawall at end of runway over-run! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path? I watched the live helicopter video on FO

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
I watched the live helicopter video on FOX online for a bit shortly after the crash. There was a debris field of small parts starting in the water and all over the underrun. One main gear truck was lying on the runway very close to the approach end. It looked like horizontal and vertical tail s

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: Sounds like someone is in a world of trouble. Yeah, how many WEEKS is is OK to leave something like that unfixed at an oceanfront international airport with SFO's traffic volume? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and use

Re: [MBZ] Update 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain

2013-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: I will say it again. The drain hose is either split, probably where it hooks onto the drain channel nipple, or it's pushed off a little bit. Or there is a rusty spot in the tray. Some of the water is not going where it's supposed to. If he can pour a gallon down the drain

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Sounds like someone is in a world of trouble. Mike On Jul 7, 2013 8:41 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > snipA San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the airport's > instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path > has > been out of service in recent weeks an

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Gotta agree with Gerry on this one. I love the faint sound of the turbo on my 83 300d. Maybe my 2.5" straight pipe exhaust has something to do with it...lol Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archi

[MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-07 Thread Gerry Archer
snipA San Francisco airport spokesman said a component of the airport's instrument landing system that tracks an incoming aeroplane's glide path has been out of service in recent weeks and was not operational on Saturday. Pilots and air safety experts said the glide path technology was far fro

Re: [MBZ] NOW TURBOCHARGER --*** WAS Transmission W124 91 300D (nowback to AT?) ; -)

2013-07-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Beg to disagree. Turbo in my '83 300D has been singing to me for over 100K miles. Gerry From: "Peter Frederick" If you can hear the turbo, it's shot, they are very quiet. Just because the flap moves doesn't mean you have boost, but you do have one working switchover valve anyway. Check the