Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-26 Thread Larry
When I bought my 78 240D it had the clear lights and I wanted yellow so I bought as pair from the deal at around $40 each - they are Bosch and came with bulbs -- definitely not sealed beam... LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 4/24/2014 2:14 PM, Fmiser wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Anybody else want to

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-25 Thread WILTON
Fog lights on my new '80 240D were yellow; 'still yellow when it was totaled nearly 18 years later. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Very astute

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-25 Thread Curt Raymond
(provided I can find it) that might help. -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:21:45 + (UTC) From: roger...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID:     <995763997.32916170.1398457304996.javamail.r...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-25 Thread rogerhga
Curt, I'll now have to get into my garage attic and take apart my spare assembly. However, I have one concern. Your fog light doesn't look very "yellow". Mine are a deep amber/yellow color, far more so than what yours looks, at least in your picture. Does the front of your bulb / glass assembly

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-25 Thread Curt Raymond
ody got pics of sealed beam fog lights? -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 01:23:31 + (UTC) From: roger...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID:     <1169647313.32448126.1398389011152.javamail.r...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread rogerhga
Well guysI just went and looked at my fog lights on my 83 300D. The fog bulbs appear to be sealed beam just like the hi/lo headlights in the fitting beside them. The fog bulbs have "Bosch Germany" embossed in the glass in the middle of them. The fixtures that the bulbs sit in have Bosch stic

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm waiting for a picture of a "sealed beam" foglight from a 123 car. If somebodys got one I'd also like the part number from it. This has been bugging me all day... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:26:07 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List&

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread WILTON
Y'all watch out; I may hafta come up with another silly Sondy Tale. ;<) Wilt - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights 20 posts (now 21 I guess)

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Randy Bennell
20 posts (now 21 I guess) and we are no further ahead ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All po

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Meade Dillon
I've only owned a single 123 car, now sold, but it had sealed beam fog lights. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
;> >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:13:33 -0400 >> From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights >> Message-ID: <53582cfd.9010...@embarqmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; form

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Gerry wrote: I wonder if there are both sealed beam and bulb in housing lamps by different manufacturers that fit the standard 123 headlight/fog light assembly? I guess that's possible. I thought the headlamps were standard 7" round DOT types, and the fog lamps were intercha

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Fmiser
> > Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > Anybody else want to weigh in on this? I completely sure none > > of my 123 cars has had sealed beam lights, theres a bulb held > > in by a little wire clippy. I have a few I can check - but as I have never messed with them I presumed they were sealed beam. They mo

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-24 Thread Curt Raymond
ll this time are we? I've never had any experience with them... The 116 car is totally different, we can easily discount that. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 03:45:32 + (UTC) From: roger...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID:     <273057448.

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread rogerhga
Mitch, I purchased my 1983 300D from the grandson of the original owner who lived in South Carolina. It has the original headlight/fog light assemblies. I have replaced a couple of hi/lo beam headlights, but the yellow fog lights are still original as they rarely get used. They have the same re

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: I bought a new '80 240D; had it 18 years before uninsured motorist on ragged pickup totaled it. Don't remember ever replacing fog bulb in it. Good point. There's rarely a need for fog lights, so how would you ever wear one out? With that in mind, why is it that you never seem

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread WILTON
014 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there wa

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread rogerhga
Kaleb, I have the originals in my 1983 300D plus a spare set I purchased on eBay about 12 years ago. Both are sealed beam. What makes you think it is aftermarket? Maybe it's the difference between US and Euro like the headlights on a 1980 300SD that people debate over which one looks best or gi

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there was no bulb; just the filament inside the large lamp.

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there was no bulb; just the filament inside the large lamp. There are three prongs on the b

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
t Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:13:33 -0400 From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID: <53582cfd.9010...@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I wonder if there are both sealed beam an

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They are supposed to have replaceable bulbs, if they are sealed beam they are aftermarket Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2014, at 4:02 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" > wrote: > > Curt, > Just called the FLAPS manager and explained the problem. He checked and said > I had been sold replace

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm forced to admit that possibility... Strange that I've only seen the bulb type. Can you take a pic of the sealed beam? -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:13:33 -0400 From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Messag

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
to the lens. Thats what "sealed beam" means right? Where the bulb is sealed into the lens, like the headlight... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:00:16 -0700 From: ernest breakfield To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID: <5357ffb0.5060...@backya

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Curt, Just called the FLAPS manager and explained the problem. He checked and said I had been sold replacement bulbs for mounted "driving lights" instead of the correct ones which are sealed beam. My '83 240D also has sealed beams. I don't understand why you would have bulb in housing lights

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond
7;m talking about. It looks like he wants to sell the whole assembly but the bulb is not sealed into the lens. Thats what "sealed beam" means right? Where the bulb is sealed into the lens, like the headlight... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:00:16 -0700 From: ernest breakfield

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread rogerhga
Curt / Gerry, Not sure how you're meaning "sealed beam". My 1983 300D has yellow fog lights that look just like the dual beam headlight, only they are yellow for fog. There is no removable bulb, etc. in them, just what I'd call a "sealed beam" unit. I see them occasionally on eBay for sale and

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread ernest breakfield
i had to replace a fog light in our '85, and it was a sealed beam. i'm fairly certain it was a plug-in deal. quotes for replacements were rather high a few years ago, and i heard a story about how there was something used in the manufacture of them that had since been qualified as a "hazar

Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights

2014-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Gerry, I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus Dwight's 300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard. Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in he