Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Me too. (Well, more like five years ago.) Is it still good? Mine came in a steel can. I assume it's good until the can springs a leak. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> >> >> I bought a liter of the stuff ten years ago and still haven't opened it. > > Me too. (Well, more like five years ago.) Is it still good? Alex __

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > I bought a liter of the stuff ten years ago and still haven't opened it. M ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Having used one, the next time I need to do brakes I'll either borrow Fred's again or buy my own bleeder, its not worth mucking about with any other method, you open the bleed line, the air comes out followed by fluid, you let as much fluid as you want to purge come out an

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Curt Raymond
s changing the fluid very easy. That reminds me I should see if the adapter he has fits the Ranger, I should replace the fluid in that while I have the bleeder. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 11:46:21 -0600 From: Brian Toscano To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes AR

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Brian Toscano
-Curt > > > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700 > > From: G Mann > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Curt, &

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread G Mann
e more fluid and try again. This time I'll buy a quart. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700 > From: G Mann > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond
You may be right, I hate to spend all the money on a master cylinder and not need to... I need to get some more fluid and try again. This time I'll buy a quart. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700 From: G Mann To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Me

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Chris James
When I ordered new rubber brake lines for the 260E I had, I bought a $10 Brake Bleeding Kit as well http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xz2z3q55xchaxxbgw1xftfro&partnumber=19200LISLE First time for me, but had no issues (thankfully) bleeding/flushing the lines with new syn DOT 3/4

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Fmiser
> Curt Raymond wrote: > > Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build pressure and work fine > until I release and try again at which point they're back to bottom > of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the pedal is bottom of > the barrel. > > I *think* this means the MC needs replacing,

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc? The Olds drove me nuts for a week. First I did the farthest wheel (the one I had to replace a line on) until I quit seeing bubbles, then I did the

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt. Sounds like an air bubble somewhere. I have a Speedi-Bleed that you can use. Use other email for reply.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Curt Raymond >To: Diesel List >Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:56 AM >Subject: [M

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Dieselhead
No. sounds exactly like air in the line. try bleeding again. Frustrating, and expensive, especially with silicon fluid. Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't. I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the ble

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread G Mann
Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc? Air acts as a "spring" since it can be compressed. If there is a section of the brake line what has fluid before the "bubble" and after the bubble [like from the ma

[MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't. I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help) may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build pressure and work fi

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes and bedding

2012-09-12 Thread Hendrik & Fay
No mention was made of bedding the brakes in? Recently put some ATE ceramics pads on the rear with new rotors, instructions for bedding in brakes where very specific and lenghty, typical German style. Hendrik who took the car for a trash around the block to get some heat in the brakes On 11/0

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread WILTON
27;t ever 'let' me share a room with you again." He grinned and said, "What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I?" Wilton - Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 P

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread WILTON
I've been trying to train 'im. 'Coming along very nicely, eh?. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Ira was great, it was just him on a black stage with his iPad for musical accompaniment. He spoke for about 2 hours and then took questions for another half hour or so. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:13:13 -0400 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell
are a room with you again." He grinned and said, "What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I?" Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! Just trying to make sure y'all understand. Randy who was exposed to that sort of language by some folks wi

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff
show what NPR afficianados we are we saw Ira > Glass there in the spring. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 > From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > Message-ID: > Conte

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond
n the spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Max Dillon wrote: > &g

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes NOT Snoring

2012-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
One summer I worked in Virginia, found a room in a house with one guy who owned it, and one other room was vacant at the time. The owner, a fairly young guy, was a realtor. He was out evenings until whenever, then his brother and various other people would come over to the house to have a few

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
er 'let' me share a room with you again." He grinned and said, "What? Did I snore? I don't snore, do I?" Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
> Max Dillon wrote: Alpha sierra is "aw s##t", usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, "Aw smeg!" -- Philip Not much left on PBS here. they took off Red Dwarf, they took off Dr. Who, now they took off Red Green. That is heresy... Only Sat ni

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
ry quiet, wakes me right up. 27.5 years (this time) and still going strong because she is still as cute as ever.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Max Dillon >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
Once on a church trip, four guys to a room, last guy to arrive hands out ear plugs all around; we needed 'em. I slept ok using the plugs, wouldn't have slept a wink otherwise. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Gerry Archer wrote: > >Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >On Behalf Of Randy Bennell >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > >With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: > Yup, we're still beginners at 37 years - I still learn something about her > every week, if not every day :-) And... that is why you will make it to 60 years, I posit. Like you, I find this woman interesting from day to day, for 38 years. mao __

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread OK Don
me for this long I will probably never know >> >> Mike >> On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: >> >> We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 >

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
edes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO'

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it wit

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I've got a little air ratchet I've been through that with. Not fun... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:48:15 -0400 From: Michael Canfield To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does not requ

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes WILTON wrote: BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; infinite. conver

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Fmiser
> Max Dillon wrote: > Alpha sierra is "aw s##t", > usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, "Aw smeg!" -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Fmiser
> WILTON wrote: > BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away > one Alpha Sierra; infinite. > conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does itL take to wipe out > 10,000 ATTABOYs? one. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Russ Williams
d of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; rep

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and realiz

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Rusty Cullens
-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
m enough to use. SWMBO isn't really > enamored if the idea. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 > From: Randy Bennell > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > Message-ID: <504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca> > Content-Type: t

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Back in the day at 7 years you'd be expected to have a 6 year old right? I can see how that might make somebody want to look around. We've always been too busy having fun. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:36:40 -0400 From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List&

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
age so the compressor would always be warm enough to use. SWMBO isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca> Content-Type: te

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Musta whipped right through it without even noticing. I've never "strayed." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Whateve

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
bolt goes into. If you heat the bolt it expands and gets tighter in the hole. When you heat the casting the space gets bigger and the bolt comes out. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:26:20 -0700 From: "Greg Fiorentino" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Subject: Re

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
that title) and psychologists have addressed the subject. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090429172241.htm Gerry From: "Curt Raymond" We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes D

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep, that's about it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Well, if this is going where I think then one Alpha Sierra will wipe out ye

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Alpha Sierra - Ah S*** Evidently, they've never been around Air Force aircrewmen. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes OK, what&#

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: << On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench>> On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That ha

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:16 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D "made a noise and then got quiet" and it scared her. Apparently her definition of "quiet" and mine aren't the same because when I trie

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
THAT is funny, a businesses that will get no offers from anyone with military experience. Alpha sierra is "aw s##t", usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mitch Haley wrote: >OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
gt; > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > > > Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat >> wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for &g

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name their company that? http://www.alphasierragroup.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chan

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
ate: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 > From: "WILTON" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes > Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
26die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton,

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: <7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; chars

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D "made a noise and then got quiet" and it scared her. Apparently her

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
Very nice. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond wrote: >My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D "made a noise and then got >quiet" and it scared her. Apparently her definition of "quiet" and mine >aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D &

[MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D "made a noise and then got quiet" and it scared her. Apparently her definition of "quiet" and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already