Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time... -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get the engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
9 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>, Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mitch asks: >‎Oh, it's dry citric acid? Yup. Granules, or crystals. If I could've waited the two days for delivery, I would've ordered online. With the car on jack stands and all the coolant drained out, I needed it today and not tomorrow. I think I did a search and this stuff turned up. I

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
This looks like the deal - under $7/lb with shipping: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XTWMK4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1_rd_i=B005XTWMK4_rd_wg=bqBgV_rd_r=544GMCGXF9RNHD846M92_rd_w=5EGq2 Should last you a life time. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Mitch sez: > > >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? > > Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Oh, it's dry citric acid? I assumed it was a solution in water. At any rate, a 10lb bag

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mitch sez: >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Pricey, but I needed it now. I will probably buy the Milliards stuff from Amazon in a few weeks for two bucks a pound. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw away the bottle it came in. Mitch. > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ‎I've

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.  https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm Rick ___

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 21, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware > stores inexpensively. Most of the stuff I looked at is Phosphoric Acid.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware stores inexpensively. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no >> thermostat >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do >not get full flow through the radiator. On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is blocked open. At least

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
z.com> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Did you

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:53:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no > thermostat The best way is to put in a blocked-open thermostat, otherwise you do not get full flow through the radiator. > On

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It is. Maybe the newest models might need the g48 but g05 is still approved Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 2005 E320

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Right. It’s not worth the $10 extra per gallon for any of my cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You need to have citric acid on hand - for cleaning auto cooling systems, removing mineral deposits from the dishwasher, coffee pot, tea kettle, etc. (I'm guessing that your water is rather hard like ours is). http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html (where I've

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. -D > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >> >> Not sure what you mean

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I have not filled it up yet because I have to wait for a thermostat to arrive.  I only use G05 On 1/20/2018 6:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: Not sure what you mean I hope he means

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Not sure what you mean I hope he means Zerex G-05. But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure what you mean. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Next time refill with Zerex coolant. > >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I removed the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Next time refill with Zerex coolant. On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat > > > > On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > >> Did you remove

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a >

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a little easier. I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The cooling

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I just finished it up and pulled it back in the shop. Looking down in the radiator cap opening the top fins of the radiator look sparkling clean. I will say when I flushed it again after running the prestone in it a lot more junk came out, then on the next flush it was pretty clear. I

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge. I had a hose nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the heater and the block. That seemed to do the job.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent > (not dish soap) in? > > -Curt > > > On Saturday,

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I spoke too soon. After flushing it the 2nd time while running it came out clear. I put the prestone in it and it’s running again for another 20 minutes. Will then flush it again and call it good. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would wait until you get clear water, or it’s just going to be crudded up (still), just not as bad as before. I would flush it from the hose on the back of the engine with the radiator cap off. Run water through it for 5-10 minutes, then close it up and run it and check. My 82 300SD had a

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent (not dish soap) in? -Curt On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to the store and buy a sh*tload of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the stuff in the packets, not the container. It’s pretty much the same thing. I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

2018-01-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever > seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is > everyone’s preferred method? 10% citric acid with

Re: [MBZ] 240D cold start

2018-01-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Well, it is an upgrade, especially in terms of durability, operating cost and maintenance cost. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes January 13, 2018 at 10:33 AM I just went out to the 240 D and it’s 20 outside and with 4 working glow plugs it started right up.

Re: [MBZ] 240D cold start

2018-01-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
As it should. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 13, 2018 11:34 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I just went out to the 240 D and it’s 20 outside and with 4 working glow > plugs it started right up. Tomorrow I am supposed to go look at the 124 >

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Be ready to ship one to Andrew. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 7, 2018 9:31:27 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >I got plenty of used driers around here already.  I am all set. > > >On 1/7/2018 8:30 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I got plenty of used driers around here already.  I am all set. On 1/7/2018 8:30 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Did you buy that used AC drier on eBay? Might need one of those come summer. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Did you buy that used AC drier on eBay? Might need one of those come summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 6, 2018 9:07:55 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >Well it was just a used one I had laying around I replaced it with,

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Exactly my thoughts. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > And did you ream the carbon out of the hole? Remove any and all bits of > metal from the bad one? Excess carbon or a ground short will burn a new one >

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well it was just a used one I had laying around I replaced it with, and I just put in another used one so we will see if it lasts. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > We'll my Dad taught me that mechanical problems

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
And did you ream the carbon out of the hole? Remove any and all bits of metal from the bad one? Excess carbon or a ground short will burn a new one up fast. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
My point exactly. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 6, 2018 8:54 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" wrote: > Duh, it was a used plug - - - > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > So when it got down to 3 I tried

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Duh, it was a used plug - - - On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it would not start. > Today it was 40 and it still would not start. It had a dead plug again, it > was #2, the exact

Re: [MBZ] 240d glow plugs again

2018-01-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
We'll my Dad taught me that mechanical problems were very rarely coincidental. Why did both plugs fail? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 6, 2018 7:47 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it would not start.

Re: [MBZ] 240D alternator belt tightening

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I’m guessing that’s what the dealer did but it didn’t last. I’m fed up with tightening that belt so I just bit the bullet! Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > The old fashioned way to tighten an alt is to put an

Re: [MBZ] 240D alternator belt tightening

2018-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Curley sez: >The old fashioned way to tighten an alt is to put an prybar/crowbar >between the block and the front of the alt. My first car broke an alternator bolt and I ended up hammering a block of wood between the engine block and alternator Rick Who can't believe that was 43 years

Re: [MBZ] 240D alternator belt tightening

2018-01-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The old fashioned way to tighten an alt is to put an prybar/crowbar between the block and the front of the alt. Tension belt with the bar, and lock down the alt bracket with the other hand. I have done this on MBs with buggered adjuster devices. All the old Deetriot iron was adjusted this

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
There are components that are more expensive than batteries which could send a Prius to the junkyard. The batteries are rebuildable since they are composed of many separate cells that can be replaced for roughly $45 each and then carefully balanced. The usual life expectancy of the cars is

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The battery packs are probably the reason they're in the PnP. Jaime On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 7:43 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Checking PnP yards and the Priii are showing up in numbers. Mostly the > original series. I am trying to figure out if the battery

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-12-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Oil will make the difference. I always put a low,vis oil in my 240D's in the winter.. My 79 would start @ 4F with no block heater on the Curt triple glow. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 17, 2017 8:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The 240D started just

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-17 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Checking PnP yards and the Priii are showing up in numbers. Mostly the original series. I am trying to figure out if the battery packs could be used to make an electric SLC. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen > On Dec 16, 2017, at 9:12 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Even if they did, the water has to go in first. You _never_ add water to acid, not unless you _like_ steam-driven acid droplets everywhere. So, if they left anything out, it would have been the acid! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Batteries don't get acid and water added separately. They dilute the acid to strength, then add the result to the cells. Could have been a short pour... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Except for the "dry type" batteries like the Prius uses, I've never had a battery that covers couldn't be pried off of that exposed the cells and allowed the use of a hydrometer and the addition of water; and I've never had one that the covers couldn't be pushed or tapped back on. I can

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
that and holes in clothes... Rick Knoble via Mercedes December 16, 2017 at 8:07 PM Two words. Sealed. Batteries. I have a turkey baster style specific gravity hydrometer I haven't used in years Rick ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'm guessing either the starter or battery is bad, but I've had cables corroded under the jacket by the terminal. Invisible and hard to figure out. I cut the jacket, saw the corrosion, cut off the terminal and a couple inches of the cable, bolted on a new terminal, problem solves, but not

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Refractometer. Why mess with a hydrometer, and a refractometer tests a lot of other stuff, too, like antifreeze concentration? -D > On Dec 16, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Gerry writes: > >> I don't understand why seemingly no one uses a

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Gerry writes: >I don't understand why seemingly no one uses a sp.gr. hydrometer anymore. Two words. Sealed. Batteries. I have a turkey baster style specific gravity hydrometer I haven't used in years Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Curley McLain wrote: > You may still have a problem with the starter, cable, terminal, or > battery. it should crank full speed for a minute at a time > > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > > December 16, 2017 at 1:31 PM > > Problem solved. At least I fixed 1

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to be a Donnie Downer, but I doubt that has anything to do with your starting problem. On Dec 16, 2017 7:28 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes I could. Now that I have the oil changed I will see how it starts in > the morning. > > Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes I could. Now that I have the oil changed I will see how it starts in the morning. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > You may still have a problem with the starter, cable, terminal, or battery. > it should

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Only way to tell for sure is to use voltmeter and (hefty) ammeter. Or, shotgun parts at it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You may still have a problem with the starter, cable, terminal, or battery. it should crank full speed for a minute at a time Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 16, 2017 at 1:31 PM Problem solved. At least I fixed 1 car today. I ohmed the glow plugs and

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Maybe Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ha. I wonder if that's why my 300td doesn't start as a fast as it used to. > I thought my problem was the block heater, but maybe I have a bad grow plug. > >> On Dec

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ha. I wonder if that's why my 300td doesn't start as a fast as it used to. I thought my problem was the block heater, but maybe I have a bad grow plug. On Dec 16, 2017 2:40 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 13:31:48 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 13:31:48 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Problem solved. At least I fixed 1 car today. I ohmed the glow plugs > and found 1 dead one. Replaced it with one I had laying around and BAM, > it fired right up. I guess 1 dead plug makes a big

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Problem solved. At least I fixed 1 car today. I ohmed the glow plugs and found 1 dead one. Replaced it with one I had laying around and BAM, it fired right up. I guess 1 dead plug makes a big difference in a little 240d Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 11:57 AM, ROGER HALE via

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
turn on the headlights, then watch the light as you crank it. (Voltmeter of sorts) If the lights go out when the starter cranks, bad battery or short in starter. Generally bad battery. If the lights only dim, look at terminals, cables and starter. Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We did that with the Snowmobile Club's tractor. 6v when cranking, no wonder it needed a jump... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Hey, Spencer, put a voltmeter on the battery and watch it while

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We did that with the Snowmobile Club's tractor. 6v when cranking, no wonder it needed a jump... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Hey, Spencer, put a voltmeter on the battery and watch it while

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Kaleb, Put your wife to work. Hook up the tow cable and tow it to start it. I've done it a few times before with my 300D. Put in neutral, get to over 35mph and put in 2nd. When it starts, put in neutral again and rev the pedal to blow out the excess fuel in the cylinders from your

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea. I can’t get any help around here. Now I’m back to dealing with this 642. I got 4 cars in here plus a diesel suburban I just picked up that does not run that I am jumping back and forth on Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I just checked it again and it’s over the top mark but not that much over. I cranked it again and paid more attention. It never does start out cranking as fast as it should. It starts turning over faster when it’s trying to fire for a couple of seconds then slows down further. It’s just like a

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Hey, Spencer, put a voltmeter on the battery and watch it while I crank the engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would at least suck out the excess oil before I tried to start it. -D > On Dec 16, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > The oil level is way too high also indicating they overfilled it. I’m wanting > to get it started and warmed up enough

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The oil level is way too high also indicating they overfilled it. I’m wanting to get it started and warmed up enough to do an oil change. I may plug the block heater in for a bit and hope it works. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240D Starter

2017-12-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think you've got it figured out. Thick cold oil would not allow fast engine turn then slow down, in my opinion, but I could be wrong. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-25 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
No definitely not stainless! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > I think my brother had put stainless on it? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > >> On Nov 25, 2017 9:02 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" >>

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-25 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I think my brother had put stainless on it? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Nov 25, 2017 9:02 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > I'm trying to remember but I don't think I ever did any exhaust work on > that car which I think makes it the only car I ever owned that

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm trying to remember but I don't think I ever did any exhaust work on that car which I think makes it the only car I ever owned that didn't need exhaust work... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
You have to dissect the rotted pipe stub out of the muffler, insert a new pipe into the hole in the side of the muffler and weld the new pipe to the sheet metal on the muffler. Since the steel is thicker on the pipe, you have to direct the mig nozzle more towards the pipe and weave the puddle

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I dont' thing there is 2 " of pipe off the muffler.  I think the only thing that MIGHT work is to have a connector section that is smaller and fits up inside the muffler.  At the end of the day it probably needs a new muffler.  Which it being a 1 year only sort of deal is $300+ iirc. On

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Make gussets. weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind off the welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.) Probably need 4 gussets. If there is at least 2" of pipe in front of the muffler, grind off the welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid. It is cracking

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now that’s impressive! Might take you up on the resonator and muffler offer! The last exhaust I repaired was on the 240 that Curt gave me (formerly Dwight’s)-the one with the head issue. I repaired the muffler and resonator with sheet metal as well as replacing a

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started breaking off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I welded it up, rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It lasted a couple of weeks then started breaking loose again. I welded it some more but it

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Nice work! (as always) I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds. From crockauto the price is not so bad I patched the exhaust on the 81 for 22 years. the front pipe kept rotting away. Methinks it was a flaps replacement sometime, while the rest was original. I have a good

Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

2017-11-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
You are a wizard. Was this the southern princess? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Nov 24, 2017 5:49 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: > So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of > my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled

Re: [MBZ] 240D Inj pump timing shaft

2017-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
A little jb weld will fix that right up. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Today I got back to taking apart the 240D. On this one, the oil pump just > dropped out when I took out the last bolt. The timer shaft

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pump

2017-10-24 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The problem is the bolt that holds the timer on backed out, rattled around for a LONG time, and in the end, I think the shaft that the timer drives to run the IP broke. That is why I needed to extract that shaft from the known bad spare engine. (and the oil pump had to be removed to get it

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pump

2017-10-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Any sign of the problem? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 23, 2017 7:06:00 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >I finally got back to pulling the oil pump today. The oil pump >finally >came out. I bumped up the top shaft that drives the

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-10-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes I totally agree. I miss my 240D's. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 61x has a certain charm to it > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 61x has a certain charm to it Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2017, at 3:21 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Kaleb wrote: > >> I take back the blow by part. After it’s warmed up it does have >> your normal amount of it. > > Sounds pretty risky. I think you should

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-10-22 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > I take back the blow by part. After it’s warmed up it does have > your normal amount of it. Sounds pretty risky. I think you should sell it quick. 'Cause I like you, I'll increase my offer to $325. You don't really want a W123 anyway - not after all those OM60x engines.

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So it looks like I’m going to have to replace the heater valve. The knobs seemed stick so I tried manually moving them at the valve and one side moved but discovered that it actually broke off. The other side does not budge. Seems like I might have one somewhere. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2017-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That’s what I plan on doing but want to swap out the high side fitting first. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Better leak test is a small amount of R134 and then nitrogen, use leaker > sniffer to check all the

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