Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-14 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
It all depends on the area and what industries they are serving. Around here we have hot and cold running chicken plants and there's more than enough fat and trimmin's to keep the Mabeline factory going along with a number of other places that use the bulk processed stuff ( a bunch of years

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Mike Canfield
Such mechanism does exist.Google it and see for yourself. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D and how does this help them for spot

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, what is the going rate of road tax for hybrid electric vehicles? Do we calculate KWH and apply an electric tax? How about a pedal car? Do we tax the fries and burger consumed for lunch as a motive fuel? Funny you bring that up, in fact the taxing

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Redghost
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems IIRC there is a plan to put a GPS tag on cars to monitor how much they are driven and then tax you for that. PDX is doing a test of this system. Even had some idiots apply to be test subjects. Think there was talk of a test' here in Seattle too.

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:11:51 -0400, Allan wrote: I think a mandatory government GPS on cars would violate the constitution in several ways. The Constitution of the United States seems to not even slow them down *sigh* -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:41:45 -0400, Allan wrote: I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve to create some really low value product, or simply trashed On 6/13/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:41:45 -0400, Allan wrote: I really have to think that it is never going to

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve to create some really low value product, or simply trashed Unfortunately not only is the amount of waste oil from McDonalds a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
Market for what? My understanding is that they haul it away for free or even charge the fast food outlets to get rid of it. On 6/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Market for what? My understanding is that they haul it away for free or even charge the fast food outlets to get rid of it. Well you know I don't know if they pay or get paid to have it taken away. But the real point is, it *is* already being

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop
actually, my research says the gov considers it a fuel additive for personal use and you do not have to pay taxes. That is 2nd hand from a local biodiesel expert who has fully researched it wilton strickland wrote: Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread OK Don
Probably depends on which government you're talking about -- there are at least Fed. and State taxes, and local taxes on fuel some places, I'm guessing. I thought I read somewhere that OK has a form for declaring and paying the fuel tax for fuel that you make yourself, but I could be dreaming

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Luther
Feds give an exemption for upto 400 gal per quarter of the year. Some states follow this. Arkansas requires that I pay $0.185/gal tax. YMMV in your state. Luther On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:30:07 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, my research says the gov

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Jim Cathey
His veggie bumper sticker gave him away. How long after he got home until the razor blade came out, I wonder? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Gary Hurst
give them a free ride then do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing to reduce one's dependence on fossil fuels? do you think it is better to use recycled waste products as a fuel source or do you prefer something some nice new none renewable fossil fuel, perhaps sourced from a place where

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Allan Streib
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Gary Hurst
and how does this help them for spot inspection? if you need more money in the projects just so badly, i'd have no opposition to this as long as a simple mechanism actually exists. (i suspect you just made this up and don't really know any better than i do if any such mechanism exists. it

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread Redghost
Neither does BioD. It is purchased from a card lock and has taxes paid, so the revenooor would be pounding sand to get cash out of me. AS long as I keep one gallon of diesel in the mix, there is no way they could figure I had not paid taxes for the tank of fuel. On Jun 11, 2007, at

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-12 Thread R A Bennell
] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Loren Faeth
Ouch! I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress I

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Allan Streib
Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Marshall Booth
Allan Streib wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Veggie oil doesn't smell like diesel! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Loren Faeth
exhaust smell perhaps? I am sure the revenooers have their training on how to detect taxed Diesel vs untaxed. Anyone on the list with direct experience? Loren At 10:22 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread LarryT
/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Allan Streib
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley
wilton strickland wrote: Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. It pays to advertise!

Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D

2007-06-11 Thread LarryT
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket