Re: How can I delete apache included in the base system?

2006-03-10 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
On 3/10/06, Diogin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, every one: I am sorry to ask thus stupid question. I have read the FAQ, but I couldn't find any way to delete apache totally. Now I want to use apache 2.0.55, but I'm worry about conflict. Can some one help me? Thans very much! You

Re: How can I delete apache included in the base system?

2006-03-10 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:13:03PM +0800, Diogin wrote: Hello, every one: I am sorry to ask thus stupid question. I have read the FAQ, but I couldn't find any way to delete apache totally. Now I want to use apache 2.0.55, but I'm worry about conflict. Can some one help me? Thans very

Re: OpenBGPd with dynamic keying (ipsec ike support)

2006-03-10 Thread tony sarendal
On 09/03/06, Florian Daniel Otel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have the following question (== misunderstanding from my part?) w.r.t. openbgp support for dynamic keying: I was living under the impression (hope?) that the said support means not only that the keys for the BGP peering

Re: Ralink USB

2006-03-10 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:54:08PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: Today I received a D-Link DWL-G122 . Unfortunately it is not a v. B1 - it is C1. If the box (i386) is booted on a 3.9beta #617 with the device plugged in it gets a dmesg line that says: Ralink 802.11 bg WLAN Class 0/0, rev

Re: OpenBGPd with dynamic keying (ipsec ike support)

2006-03-10 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:36:07AM +, tony sarendal wrote: On 09/03/06, Florian Daniel Otel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have the following question (== misunderstanding from my part?) w.r.t. openbgp support for dynamic keying: I was living under the impression (hope?)

Re: Ralink USB

2006-03-10 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:42:44 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:54:08PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: Today I received a D-Link DWL-G122 . Unfortunately it is not a v. B1 - it is C1. If the box (i386) is booted on a 3.9beta #617 with the device plugged in it gets a dmesg

Re: Ralink USB

2006-03-10 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:18:10PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:42:44 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:54:08PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: Today I received a D-Link DWL-G122 . Unfortunately it is not a v. B1 - it is C1. If the box (i386)

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
On 3/10/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But financially we are under strain, and it is not letting us grow any of our bigger plans. It sounds like you really have big plans. Maybe it is a good idea to tell about them, maybe that will make the big companies interested in

Re: crash: savecore - saves core dump every day?

2006-03-10 Thread Stefan Drexleri
2006/3/10, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not entirely sure I understand your question, the subject and the body of your message don't seem to be completely related. However, I think you may find the answers to your questions in man 8 crash Third paragraph (more or less, depending

Re: crash: savecore - saves core dump every day?

2006-03-10 Thread Nick Holland
Stefan Drexleri wrote: 2006/3/10, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not entirely sure I understand your question, the subject and the body of your message don't seem to be completely related. However, I think you may find the answers to your questions in man 8 crash Third paragraph (more

Re: OpenBGPd with dynamic keying (ipsec ike support)

2006-03-10 Thread Florian Daniel Otel
Without ever having looked at this I would guess that openbgpd support for dynamic keying is for securing the bgp session itself, nothing more. Yes, this is correct. *sigh*. There goes hopes for elegant BGP-IPsec VPNs, back to BGP over GRE over IPsec. Thanks Claudio, Tony for clearing

Re: ipsec.conf question

2006-03-10 Thread Reyk Floeter
hi, you have a main misunderstanding here because you're mixing up the identities with the flows. On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:29:29PM +0100, Marc Peters wrote: i am using -current as of 24.02.2006 and made a realese for my other machines. i tried the ipsec tutorial which was posted on

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Craig
Back on the issue of the t-shirt suggestion. How about on the back of OpenBSD t-shirts, the slogan: Parasites don't puff, or even blow, they suck! Catchy, is it not? I'll get my coat. -- Best regards, Craig http://slashboot.org/

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 10/03/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/10/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But financially we are under strain, and it is not letting us grow any of our bigger plans. It sounds like you really have big plans. Maybe it is a good idea to tell about

OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Paolo Supino
Hi I need to setup an IPSEC VPN between 2 locations. 1 location runs Cisco gear (out of my control) and the other runs OpenBSD (my decision). I've never setup a VPN between Cisco and OpenBSD before (I did between Cisco to Cisco and OpenBSD to OpenBSD) and I was wondering if there are any

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Diana Eichert
Talk is really cheap. Getting a business, either the one you work for or a vendor, to donate hardware or funding is much harder. So instead of TALKING about it what you MIGHT do, go out and find equipment/funding from somewhere. Once you get something concrete notify Theo of what you have. This

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Diana Eichert
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Paolo Supino wrote: Hi I need to setup an IPSEC VPN between 2 locations. 1 location runs Cisco gear (out of my control) and the other runs OpenBSD (my decision). I've never setup a VPN between Cisco and OpenBSD before (I did between Cisco to Cisco and OpenBSD to

Re: ipsec.conf question

2006-03-10 Thread Marc Peters
thx for your answer. Reyk Floeter schrieb: hi, you have a main misunderstanding here because you're mixing up the identities with the flows. On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:29:29PM +0100, Marc Peters wrote: i am using -current as of 24.02.2006 and made a realese for my other machines. i tried

Re: ipsec.conf question (dynamic and bypass example)

2006-03-10 Thread Reyk Floeter
btw., On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:29:29PM +0100, Marc Peters wrote: i am using -current as of 24.02.2006 and made a realese for my other machines. i tried the ipsec tutorial which was posted on undeadly.org. i have to go with one gateway which has a dynamic ip because it is an adsl-connection

Re: ipsec.conf question (dynamic and bypass example)

2006-03-10 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:53:15PM +0100, Reyk Floeter wrote: 3.) The laptops are using /30 subnets in the 172.16.0.0/16 range and they're reachable via the VPN. Have a look at ssh_config(5) or the src/usr.bin/ssh/README.tun file for details. SSH-VPN can be used almost everywhere (even with

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread A Rossi
A thought suddenly occurs. Perhaps big companies that use OpenBSD do not want to disclose their use by donating because they fear that this might give their competitors an advantage(now their competitors know what OS they're using), or might help crackers/s-kiddies/etc. attack that company now

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 10/03/06, A Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought suddenly occurs. Perhaps big companies that use OpenBSD do not want to disclose their use by donating because they fear that this might give their competitors an advantage(now their competitors know what OS they're using), or might help

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Gustavo Rios
OpenBSd always charges nothing back, that's an ideology (that's the way i see). The price of ideologies in a world like ours is expensive. For instance, i am tired of seeing big players using openssh and the like. They give nothing back to OpenBSD. Probable the thrid BSD license clause should be

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenBSd always charges nothing back, that's an ideology (that's the way i see). The price of ideologies in a world like ours is expensive. For instance, i am tired of seeing big players using openssh and the like. They give nothing back to OpenBSD. Probable the thrid

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:12:59AM -0500, Paolo Supino wrote: Hi I need to setup an IPSEC VPN between 2 locations. 1 location runs Cisco gear (out of my control) and the other runs OpenBSD (my decision). depending on whether this is relevant to your needs or not, vpnc from

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Denis Doroshenko
On 3/10/06, jared r r spiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am using vpnc just to access work-vpn, tho, and not for something such as setting up a permanant tunnel between two gateways. AFAIK vpnc does not support rekeying yet, and that sucks :-)

numlockx

2006-03-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
numlockx doesn't seem to have any effect on either of my computers. I've tried both numlockx-1.0 from ports and http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/numlockx/numlockx-1.1.tar.gz so I'm suspecting OpenBSD X11. My Xorg logs and confs are at http://enop.org/obsd/

FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Craig Ryhorchuk
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spruell, Darren-Perot Sent: March 10, 2006 12:34 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Pre-orders for our releases. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenBSd always charges nothing back, that's an ideology

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Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Craig, Of course, for this to benefit OpenBSD they'd have to be registered as a charitable organization etc. etc. and that is probably somewhere they either don't want to or can't go (or they already have and I just don't know) Ain't. Gonna. Happen. (See the archives; really) I think

FW: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Craig Ryhorchuk
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nico Meijer Sent: March 10, 2006 2:56 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases. Hi Craig, Of course, for this to benefit OpenBSD they'd have to be registered as a

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 3/6/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We seem to be having a problem with random disconnects after instituting carp on our gateway. The problem is only happening with our telnet[1] users connected to our legacy systems. The problem only happens with remote users that come in via

Re: FW: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Diana Eichert
Man, talk, talk, talk, blah, blah, blah. quit blathering and just do it!

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On 3/10/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I think too good about people/companies, but maybe if you want to create and a company really likes that they maybe sponsor. If you have big plans and need money for that and that company really needs feature they might think

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/10 12:19, Bryan Irvine wrote: On 3/6/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem only happens with remote users that come in via T1 and don't go through the gateway. The machines they are connecting to are using 10.0.0.1 as it's gateway and seems to occassionaly choke

Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/10/06, Craig Ryhorchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't go quite that far. Corporate anywhere cares about charity. No, they don't care about charity. They care about tax deductions. There is a big difference between the two. I think this is a reason why Theo is loathe to start a

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
On 3/10/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/10/06, Wijnand Wiersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I think too good about people/companies, but maybe if you want to create and a company really likes that they maybe sponsor. If you have big plans and need money for that and

Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
I agree with those who have said that this thread is very largely a waste of time with lots of talk and little action coming from it apart from the few overt contributions to the power bill fund. Thanks to those people. For those of you who haven't thought of a way to contribute more than your

Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/10/06, Rod.. Whitworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with those who have said that this thread is very largely a waste of time with lots of talk and little action coming from it apart from the few overt contributions to the power bill fund. Thanks to those people. For those of you

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 3/10/06, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006/03/10 12:19, Bryan Irvine wrote: On 3/6/06, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem only happens with remote users that come in via T1 and don't go through the gateway. The machines they are connecting to are

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 3/10/06, Steven S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Irvine wrote: ... ... It happened after we installed the carp firewalls, and seems to be related to ICMP-Redirect coming from the real IP, as opposed to the carp one the request went to. ... Interesting, in my experiments carp

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Steven S
Bryan Irvine wrote: On 3/10/06, Steven S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Irvine wrote: ... ... It happened after we installed the carp firewalls, and seems to be related to ICMP-Redirect coming from the real IP, as opposed to the carp one the request went to. ... Interesting, in my

Re: carp and random disconnects

2006-03-10 Thread Steven S
Bryan Irvine wrote: ... ... It happened after we installed the carp firewalls, and seems to be related to ICMP-Redirect coming from the real IP, as opposed to the carp one the request went to. ... Interesting, in my experiments carp interfaces didn't send ICMP redirects at all...

Re: Ralink USB

2006-03-10 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:53:23 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:18:10PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:42:44 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:54:08PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: Today I received a D-Link DWL-G122 .

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin
On 3/10/06, Diana Eichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talk is really cheap. Getting a business, either the one you work for or a vendor, to donate hardware or funding is much harder. Right. Because for-profit businesses wants to see return on their investment, thus a company will seldom give

Re: Ralink USB

2006-03-10 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 01:50:12PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:53:23 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:18:10PM +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:42:44 +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:54:08PM +1100,

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Matthew Closson
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Paolo Supino wrote: Hi I need to setup an IPSEC VPN between 2 locations. 1 location runs Cisco gear (out of my control) and the other runs OpenBSD (my decision). I've never setup a VPN between Cisco and OpenBSD before (I did between Cisco to Cisco and OpenBSD to

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Paolo Supino
Hi Diana I did a different search in google and received a lot of irrelevant hits :-( I looked up the mailing list archives but didn't find anything concrete on the subject. I agree that more information is needed but I kept it to the 2nd round of the emails on this subject because 1: I

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Paolo Supino
Hi Matthew Thanx for a great reply (even though I didn't supply information). Here is some more information: The OpenBSD side is simple: OpenBSD 3.8-stable (and 3.9 when it comes out). Since I didn't have time to develop a policy I'm following the other location's policy. The Cisco they have

Re: OpenBSD - Cisco IPSEC

2006-03-10 Thread Melameth, Daniel D.
Paolo Supino wrote: I need to setup an IPSEC VPN between 2 locations. 1 location runs Cisco gear (out of my control) and the other runs OpenBSD (my decision). I've never setup a VPN between Cisco and OpenBSD before (I did between Cisco to Cisco and OpenBSD to OpenBSD) and I was wondering if

Re: FW: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Hansson
On Saturday 11 March 2006 07:22, Greg Thomas wrote: On 3/10/06, Craig Ryhorchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't go quite that far. Corporate anywhere cares about charity. No, they don't care about charity. They care about tax deductions. Or, in countries where charity donations arent