Ray Percival wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:54, "Roberto J. Dohnert"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Quick question, do we really need an endorsement from Richard
> > Stallman and the
> > FSF for OpenBSD?
>
> Nobody involved in this thread wants this endorsement and it is not
> about get
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As I've said, I think it's acceptable for free applications to run on
> non-free platforms (and say that they do), because this doesn't
> recommend the installation of those non-free platforms. But free
> systems should not recommend, suggest, or off
On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:54, "Roberto J. Dohnert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Quick question, do we really need an endorsement from Richard
Stallman and the
FSF for OpenBSD?
Nobody involved in this thread wants this endorsement and it is not
about getting him to change his mind. The point is
Quick question, do we really need an endorsement from Richard Stallman and the
FSF for OpenBSD? When I choose an OS I don't go to Richard and the FSF, I
choose the OS I want to use whether its Kubuntu or PCLinuxOS for the desktop
(with all the non-free software that makes my heart sing), OpenBS
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:38:24PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 07:48:53PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
> > On 1/5/08, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Is there anything that, bug-wise, could go wrong with that remote
> > > browser that would be able to rea
Eric Furman wrote:
Yea, it was the artwork that attracted me to OpenBSD,
not all the hard work that was put in creating good,
clean, secure code. :-) (no offense Ken).
Thanks again Theo and all the other devs.
None taken. The quality of the OpenBSD effort goes without saying,
although than
Richard Stallman wrote:
> That is not what happened. I stated an accurate conclusion based on
> recent research. I expressed it with words that were not clear.
>
> I've explained the details several times, so I won't repeat now.
>
Funny thing about details
When they are accurate they can be re
On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
By publishing it, and telling only me--not anyone who could fix
it--you made sure a day would go by when others know about the problem
but our sysadmins did not. It would have been better practice to tell
our sysadmins privately first, and give
2008/1/7, V. Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>
> You see, rms? You were right. OpenBSD has lots of trolls who:
>
No he does not see... he is not subscribed to misc...
Here's the rest of your message...
> a. Don't find out about the person who
No, but when you redefine "free" to mean something specific, you redefine
your own language.
It's normal to develop criteria for what "free" means in specific
activities. Consider, for instance, "free elections". Human rights
organizations and election monitors have worked out specific c
> I don't carry a mobile phone, but I don't see anything wrong in
> borrowing one from someone to make a call.
So if it is a new model of cell phone and if the owner teaches you how
to use it and make life easy for you will that be
1) Wrong on his part to encourage you to usin
Why do you use (obviously flawed) research methods?
My method is to ask other people to do it for me. I use that method
because it is efficient. Its results are accurate, too.
However, when a person tells me his OS is free, I have not always
checked. Sometimes I just took his word for it.
hi
I have been to the peer guardian website and read the options about using
Moblock for Linux etc.
I would like to discuss what is the best way to automatically download the
lists available from http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net/lists/ and use
them with PF.
There are 4 list files that come i
Didn't you do that right from the start when you came
to our lists to post the wrong conclusions you draw from your
un-researched assumptions?
That is not what happened. I stated an accurate conclusion based on
recent research. I expressed it with words that were not clear.
I've e
Can you tell the FSF web programmers to do more checking for HTML/SQL
injection vulnerabilities?
I know nothing about that issue, but I will forward your message.
Teaching the public about this issue is a good thing to.
However, the way you did it was predictably bad.
By publishing it, a
On Jan 6, 2008, at 20:02, "Tony Abernethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
You see, rms? You were right. OpenBSD has lots of trolls who:
Curious, the contents indicate this is addressed to RMS.
The mail headers indicate otherwise.
This is obviously by one of the trolls.
Q
V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
>
> You see, rms? You were right. OpenBSD has lots of trolls who:
Curious, the contents indicate this is addressed to RMS.
The mail headers indicate otherwise.
This is obviously by one of the trolls.
Quite often, beople are judged by the emails they send
and by the intell
2008/1/6, scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Notwithstanding the mentioned 5% issue, in context and for the purposes
> of secure wipes, is it not better to use
>
> /dev/arandom (or /dev/srandom) vs. /dev/zero
>
> as in
>
> dd if=/dev/arandom ...
>
> /S
Well rm -P is going to overwrite the file 3 times a
Matthew Szudzik wrote:
>
> Not true. Language can define the laws of of physics or of
> mathematics
> in extremely clear, precise, and absolute terms.
>
First the obvious: If it can, then why doesn't it?
Second, seems like mathematics has "axioms" not "laws".
There are a few things you can de
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You see, rms? You were right. OpenBSD has lots of trolls who:
a. Don't find out about the person who is emailing
b. Make assumptions about the person in a.
c. Just troll all day and have no work to do
d. Bitch about everything else because of c.
e. Ge
On Jan 6, 2008 9:38 PM, Matthew Szudzik wrote:
> Not true. Language can define the laws of of physics or of mathematics
> in extremely clear, precise, and absolute terms.
Many if not most physicists and mathematicians would dispute that
statement. There are numerous important debates in the field
> Also modern CPUs run microcode. Does this make them "unethical"?
>
> Not in my view. And this is why:
>
> > Whether it runs on a computer or an FPGA, either way it's a program.
> > So the next crucial question is, do users normally install programs on
> > that device?
>
> If
--- Leonardo Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe those watchdog timeouts have nothing to do with bittorrent, and
> are probably more related to nic problems. Have you tried running your
> torrent client with a different network card?
I have run into the same issue with my onboard nic car
> Later, I found out that our human language is too weak to define laws in
> absolute and clear terms.
Not true. Language can define the laws of of physics or of mathematics
in extremely clear, precise, and absolute terms.
Bringing the discussion back to operating systems, I think that the our
l
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 12:37:26PM -0800, Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote:
> I came to the misc@ list from Journal links just to see what is the real
> discussion about RMS and OpenBSD.
> >From the start I have to tell the list that I'm sad. I have read sad things
> >and
> now I think I should not read
2008/1/7, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If users don't normally install microcode in the CPU, then ethically
> it may as well be a circuit. It is not built as a circuit, but that's
> a different question.
>
>
So... 'ethically' the TiVo ma as well be a circuit, since users don't
usually
Alright Theo, where have you stashed the code??
http://www.allard.nu/pfw/pics/buynow.png
http://www.allard.nu/pfw/
;)
Sevan / Venture37
_
Who's friends with who and co-starred in what?
http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparat
2008/1/6, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> so if you could, please, give an example by
> showing where OpenBSD (web-site?) says that it recommend non-free
> software and the URL.
>
> In OpenBSD the recommendation for certain non-free programs
> is in the rec
Boris Goldberg wrote:
Hello misc,
I've been booting my system from RAIDframe partitions for a long while.
Small partition for kernel(s), raidctl -A root raid0 - and I have root on
raid0a and swap on raid0b.
But with 4.2 I'm getting "swapmount: no device" error from the kernel and
"saveco
> To bring in half the human population into this flame
> fest is at best grossly overeager and at worst extremely and unfairly
> prejudicial.
Indeed. IMO the most depressing thing about this entire exchange (with
the possible exception of the amount of top-posting) is the offhand
way in which mo
Hallo Mihai,
Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote on Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:00:19PM -0800:
> I used to work with OpenBSD-realease and OpenBSD-stable by applying
> the patches for the base and upgrade the packages.
>
> Since the packages are not updated anymore for the -stable branch (still no
> announceme
Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote:
Both sides started to used stupid and out of context words. Nothing was
achieved,
just insults and no productive discussion.
Stallman continually keeps repairing and admitting to a small amount of
his errors... and this entire thread has made progress. The only reaso
On 1/6/08 11:46 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
By using and endorsing gNewSense???
It seems you really don't read what's going on there, people working on it
more or less scream out it's an impossible mission the way it's setup now and
the project goals are not met for the foresee
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 08:09:43PM +0100, Good Good wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My ISP (free.fr) now proposes to me a native connectivity in IPV6.
> I wish to implement this functionality on my network, that here:
>
>
> SwitchFirewallISP BoxISP Network/Internet
>
Hi,
Merely a note of thanks to the entire OpenBSD team and community for providing
a stellar OS. Today I switched my webserver to running on OpenBSD 4.2 and am
very pleased that an audited httpd is part of the system. Setting this up and
an FTP server has always been a bit of a chore...until no
On 2008/01/06 13:00, Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote:
> Are the packages updated (precompiled) for each snapshot ?
No, there are often 2 base snapshots a day, package snapshots take
a fair bit longer than this to build. Usually this isn't a problem,
things are close enough, but there are occasions when
On 1/6/08 11:37 PM, Mihai Popescu B. S. wrote:
If RMS came up with some statements, then the proper answer should have been "
Dear Mr. RMS, you are not so well informed about OpenBSD project please
check this links ...". I got that as a good answer for my questions. Not to
mention the RTFM
On 2008/01/06 10:02, Max Hayden Chiz wrote:
> Thank you very much for your swift reply. Using 'scrub on enc0
> max-mss 1310 no-df' immediately solved the problem.
>
> I have two questions though, since 1310 is smaller than needed, how
> do I determine the correct setting to use after max-mss? I
The term "autograph tax" is a foolish exaggeration--I am not a
government, so I cannot make anyone pay taxes. I'm told that such
foolishness is common among the people making this criticism: that
they generally seek opportunities to criticize the Free Software
Foundation, whether valid
On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Good Good wrote:
Hello,
My ISP (free.fr) now proposes to me a native connectivity in IPV6.
I wish to implement this functionality on my network, that here:
SwitchFirewallISP BoxISP Network/
Internet
__ ___
I know you guys have interesting analogies, but cloning plants is not
the same as copying source code.
On 1/6/08, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Greidanus wrote:
> > Richard Stallman wrote:
> >> In the case of hardware, it would mean it is too expensive to
> >> copy...
> >> which it
Hello,
I came to the misc@ list from Journal links just to see what is the real
discussion about RMS and OpenBSD.
>From the start I have to tell the list that I'm sad. I have read sad things and
now I think I should not read those things. In fact someone should put a waring
label like "Read with c
Hey young man,
On 1/6/08 8:31 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
OpenBSD got pwned a year ago with another remote hole.
There was a second remote hole, it's pretty sure nobody in the industry has
misused it.
Can you give us numbers of your favourite OS?
I hope they find enough so they can stop bra
Good Good wrote:
[...]
The problem :
The /64 provided by my ISP is made to fuel only one ethernet segment and no
more.
So, it is not possible to route a part of the /64 to another ethernet
segment (the private segment).
ask them to get a /48 network. with a /64 network you can not do anythin
Hello,
I used to work with OpenBSD-realease and OpenBSD-stable by applying the patches
for the base and upgrade the packages.
Since the packages are not updated anymore for the -stable branch (still no
announcement on the project's web page) I switched to the -current option. I
don't want to go w
Deanna Phillips wrote:
Marco Peereboom writes:
Blah blah blah my feelers are hurt. Do I need to mail you
some maxi pads?
Do I need to point out that you've attempted to insult someone
by comparing him to some bullshit stereotype about women?
Well said. Flinging mud is all well
Yes please please stop. It's a technical list to better OpenBSD and
benefit the community not to argue.
The OpenBSD lists are really useful. Please don't reduce them to a
petty argument. Spare the other list members the political debates.
On 6 Jan 2008, at 19:00, Deanna Phillips wrote:
On 1/6/08 9:28 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
Providing a recipe to install a non-free program is very direct and
clear support for its use.
Clueless.
With the internet everything is 1 click away, ah well, maybe one more. You
have to think/work, yourselves to keep your system in the shape you w
Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:09:42PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
- vendor A sells hardware that requires a firmware
- OpenBSD wants to support that hardware and needs the firmware
to be shipped, say in /etc/firmware/, to have the
Frank Bax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My spamd-setup always takes 20-30 minutes on two servers (4.1 and
> 4.2). This is not normal? When I run it manually; most of the time is
> spent downloading traplist.gz
I guess I must stop complaining about my line speeds, then. My sole
remaining 4.1 box
Deanna Phillips wrote:
It obviously was poor choice of words and I am sorry for
saying it.
Thanks.
Sorry for calling you on it, but I'm annoyed enough at having
to read these hundreds of RMS-related messages in the first
place.
When will you people give up? Some of us feel obligated to
> Well Stallman is actually softening up a little after it
> all.. he is admitting to mistakes and correcting
> them.. slowly...
Who cares? He is completely irrelevant.
What if I give a dog a computer system.. and he uses it to bark at.
The dog finds it entertaining. The dog would not understand the source
code if it was offered.
The program that the dog barks at while Mom and Pop are out shopping, is
closed source.
It does not matter that it is closed sourc
Tony Abernethy wrote:
Karthik Kumar wrote:
Okay, I didn't install it.
You did install it?
You didn't install it?
You don't know whether you did or didn't?
Seems like there is a substantial disconnect from reality.
Karthik Kumar is probably using GNG.
GNG is not GNG.
Paul Greidanus wrote:
Richard Stallman wrote:
In the case of hardware, it would mean it is too expensive to
copy...
which it could be... so does that mean freedom to copy something
became irrelevant as the cost of copying becomes relatively
expensive?
When something is impractica
I find it impolite that you partially removed my questions and only
responded to some of them. I asked you if you please could respond to
all paragraphs.
I am struggling with what ethics mean to you. Could you explain that
please?
And if you don't mid could you reply to the original email and a
Floor Terra wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Floor Terra wrote:
I have no problem problem with name calling but what do you hope to
accomplish by you request to call GNU bullshit?
Although my opinion of GNU is not as positive as it was before this
whole RMS v
Hello,
My ISP (free.fr) now proposes to me a native connectivity in IPV6.
I wish to implement this functionality on my network, that here:
SwitchFirewallISP BoxISP Network/Internet
__ ___ ___
|PC1|---| | vr0 |
Imre Oolberg wrote:
Hallo!
I would be thankful if somebody comments on the following sequence to
upgrade OpenBSD system. The main purpose is to make an upgrade with as
little downtime as possible and to have a way to return to the last
known working state. Essentially it involves creating tempor
On Jan 6, 2008 7:42 PM, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Floor Terra wrote:
> > I have no problem problem with name calling but what do you hope to
> > accomplish by you request to call GNU bullshit?
> > Although my opinion of GNU is not as positive as it was before this
> > whole RMS vs OpenBSD dis
Richard Stallman wrote:
That itself has problems. Do you mean home computer users? From what I
know, most large companies, including hardware vendors, and
governments uses computers as well, so they are too "computer users",
thus copy hardware aren't impractical for every "compute
Floor Terra wrote:
I have no problem problem with name calling but what do you hope to
accomplish by you request to call GNU bullshit?
Although my opinion of GNU is not as positive as it was before this
whole RMS vs OpenBSD discussion, I will not insult people just to receive
free gifts
Floor T
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:09:42PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > - vendor A sells hardware that requires a firmware
> > >
> > > - OpenBSD wants to support that hardware and needs the firmware
> > > to be shipped, say in /etc/firmware/, to have the
> > >
I have nothing against getting paid to write software, as such. I
criticize non-free software, software that doesn't respect users'
essential freedoms, but that has nothing to do with whether the
programmer gets paid. Getting paid to write free software (which many
people do) is fine. Writing n
Florian Fuessl wrote:
I'm running spamd-setup via regular cronjob every 20 minutes. Sometimes the
spamd-setup process seems to hang and does not finish within this period,
although all black- and whitelists are local files.
Is there a way define timeouts for tasks of spamd-setup? What solution i
On Jan 6, 2008, at 2:46 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
Absolutely. FSF staff checked the BSD versions and told me what
found. I do not redo their work after they do it; I trust that they
did it well.
Their report about OpenBSD was accurate.
Except, sir, at some point, someone made a mistake. A
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:09:42PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > - vendor A sells hardware that requires a firmware
> > >
> > > - OpenBSD wants to support that hardware and needs the firmware
> > > to be shipped, say in /etc/firmware/, to have the
> > >
> It obviously was poor choice of words and I am sorry for
> saying it.
Thanks.
Sorry for calling you on it, but I'm annoyed enough at having
to read these hundreds of RMS-related messages in the first
place.
When will you people give up? Some of us feel obligated to keep
up with the lists and
Karthik Kumar wrote:
> Okay, I didn't install it.
You did install it?
You didn't install it?
You don't know whether you did or didn't?
Seems like there is a substantial disconnect from reality.
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:50:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
| > You are making an argument that Makefiles are useless when we are
| > discussing the free-ness of OpenBSD. It doesn't have a lot to do with
| > the subject at hand (again...), but there you go.
|
| You argued Makefiles are FREE. Se
> Really? All those wifi/raid/cpu/etc cards/chips out there that need
> "firmware", you think they're not a mix of both microcontroller code
and
> other binary bits that configure an ASIC or FPGA?
>
> I am not a hardware expert; I don't know sort of hardware the f
That itself has problems. Do you mean home computer users? From what I
know, most large companies, including hardware vendors, and
governments uses computers as well, so they are too "computer users",
thus copy hardware aren't impractical for every "computer users in
general".
> > - vendor A sells hardware that requires a firmware
> >
> > - OpenBSD wants to support that hardware and needs the firmware
> > to be shipped, say in /etc/firmware/, to have the
> > hardware work out of the box
> >
> > - vendor A says "if a
On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:20, "Karthik Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 10:41 PM, Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:52:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
| > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash
player
| > on your machine (
> I appreciate the work that OpenBSD has done in this area.
> It is an important contribution to our community.
>
Curious that it should take this long to obtain that admission from you.
Why do you think it took a long time?
I said it a couple of weeks ago too.
I also said it a co
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:50:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 10:41 PM, Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:52:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > | > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
> > | > on your machin
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:04:07AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > > See ? This is an example, it is unrelated to money, and you still failed
> > > to show us ONE point where we don't stick to our goals.
> > >
> >
> > So registration form = non-free. You failed to prove how it was not
> > free.
"Peter N. M. Hansteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm running spamd-setup via regular cronjob every 20 minutes. Sometimes
the
>> spamd-setup process seems to hang and does not finish within this period,
>> although all black- and whitelists are local files.
>
> I would try to figure out why th
Richard Stallman wrote:
In the case of hardware, it would mean it is too expensive to copy...
which it could be... so does that mean freedom to copy something
became irrelevant as the cost of copying becomes relatively expensive?
When something is impractical to copy, then the questi
On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:07, "Benoit Chesneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 3:12 PM, V. Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Run make install on that directory (www/opera-flashplugin) and
woohoo!
so _you_ decided to install non-free software. The question is why .
Nothing fo
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:52:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
| > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
| > on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to
| > indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software
| > you've inst
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:39:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 10:35 PM, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 07:46:42PM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > >
On Jan 6, 2008 10:41 PM, Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:52:18PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> | > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
> | > on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to
> | > indicate
Hallo!
I would be thankful if somebody comments on the following sequence to
upgrade OpenBSD system. The main purpose is to make an upgrade with as
little downtime as possible and to have a way to return to the last
known working state. Essentially it involves creating temporary
dual-boot environm
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Richard Stallman wrote:
>I don't think OpenBSD users understand what you mean by "recommend
>non-free software",
>
>I explained it earlier in this thread.
>
> so if you could, please, give an example by
>showing where OpenBSD (web-site?) says t
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 07:46:42PM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Gilles Chehade wrote:
> > I don't care about puppy linux or slax, I am just pointing out that
> > you talked out of your ass and made an uninformed comment again
> > when you sai
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:13:25PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 4:25 AM, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > > Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
> > > > allow them to be
On Jan 6, 2008 6:22 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
> > on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to
> > indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software
> > you've i
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Richard Stallman wrote:
>In the case of hardware, it would mean it is too expensive to copy...
>which it could be... so does that mean freedom to copy something
>became irrelevant as the cost of copying becomes relatively expensive?
>
>When something is impractical
> Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
> on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to
> indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software
> you've installed, but you are free to do so. Then, to you, those four
> small file
On Jan 6, 2008 3:12 PM, V. Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Run make install on that directory (www/opera-flashplugin) and woohoo!
so _you_ decided to install non-free software. The question is why .
Nothing forced you to install it.
--
- benont
--
- benont
Thank you very much for your swift reply. Using 'scrub on enc0
max-mss 1310 no-df' immediately solved the problem.
I have two questions though, since 1310 is smaller than needed, how
do I determine the correct setting to use after max-mss? I understand
that in theory I want to subtract the leng
If you feel this way you might want to tell RMS and cronies that. He
will not get the last word on this.
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:57:28PM -0800, visc wrote:
> This really is getting old... it's getting harder to want to even go
> through new messages in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm not siding with
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 07:42:47PM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
| Paul de Weerd wrote:
| > I repeat : keep this onlist or out of my mailbox.
| >
| This one is on the list.
Thank you.
| > Yes, it really is very bad that Jolan committed all that non-free
| > stuff to OpenBSD. How could he ! OpenB
(Sorry, I deleted the original thread so here's a new one)
"Open Source Hardware" has now been officially recognized as a phenom
by the Establishment:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/business/06novel.html?ex=1357275600&en=592b78a8b11af008&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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On Jan 6, 2008 12:45 PM, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 2008 1:05 PM, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/5/08, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
> >>> anal
I repeat : keep this onlist or out of my mailbox.
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 06:16:38PM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
| > | Look, first the blobs may do whatever. Userland can equally do
| > | whatever. Adobe Flash Player restricts my freedom because the whole
| > | world is putting Flash sites and
"Martin Schrvder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2008/1/6, visc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> This really is getting old... it's getting harder to want to even go
>> through new messages in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Seconded. IMHO this all belongs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I for one would be very pleased to see
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Paul de Weerd wrote:
> I repeat : keep this onlist or out of my mailbox.
>
This one is on the list.
>
> | Oh.. so that is your argument; Just because you don't keep it in
> | distfiles doesn't make you any right. jolan is a developer of OpenBSD.
> | Lo
"Florian Fuessl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm running spamd-setup via regular cronjob every 20 minutes. Sometimes the
> spamd-setup process seems to hang and does not finish within this period,
> although all black- and whitelists are local files.
I would try to figure out why the process st
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