* bofh [2010-04-14 01:35]:
> I've always thought cisco/juniper existed to sell overpriced hardware,
> so have issues reconciling that with this...
they do.
but to be fair - their high end stuff with seperate data and control
panes and, admittedly, line cards that do _way_ more than your network
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
level of friendliness in Linux c
Internet troll is on the Internet.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:11:56AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude
read this paper - www.openbsd.org/papers/opencon06-culture.pdf
On 05:11 Wed 14 Apr , Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost"
On 14 April 2010 19:11, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there
On 14 April 2010 11:11, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently set up a couple Pentium MMX 233 machines with OpenBSD 4.5 for the
> purpose of running gdm, ratpoison, vncviewer, rdesktop, and xterm. I found
> gdm to be the best option for a login manager, both because it loads quite
> fast
Zachary Uram writes:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
>
Thanks to all who took the time to reply.
In the end I went the pf table route. The box is still logging both
successful and failed logins but the number of log entries has
decreased drastically.
Regards,
p
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Ahlsen-Girard, Edward F CTR USAF AFSOC
AFSOC/A6OK wrote
Matthew Roberts wrote:
> I have been experimenting with a softraid mirror, using two cheap SATA
> disks.
> In general the performance is very good - except when rebuilding. A quick
> set of sums suggests that the problem is seek time.
>
> The disks are 7200rpm, therefore one can hope for 120 seek
El 14/04/2010 11:44, Peter N. M. Hansteen escribis:
Zachary Uram writes:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a qu
On 4/14/2010 5:11 AM, Zachary Uram wrote:
smacks of superiority and even condescension at times. Is this a fair
I don't think they're superior and condescending... I think they're
superior and busy.
Zachary Uram P?P8QP5Q:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
level
Zachary Uram wrote:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
level of f
Am 14 Apr 2010 um 10:11 schrieb Zachary Uram:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is u
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Steve Shockley wrote:
> On 4/14/2010 5:11 AM, Zachary Uram wrote:
>
>> smacks of superiority and even condescension at times. Is this a fair
>>
>
> I don't think they're superior and condescending... I think they're
> superior and busy.
>
>
The OpenBSD culture al
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:17 -0400, "Steve Shockley"
wrote:
> On 4/14/2010 5:11 AM, Zachary Uram wrote:
> > smacks of superiority and even condescension at times. Is this a fair
>
> I don't think they're superior and condescending... I think they're
> superior and busy.
>
>
Busy? There are more
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
> level of friendliness
> but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
> level of friendliness in Linux community towards them.
I'm on Open/Free BSD, Fedora and Debian and while sometimes I find there
can be a bit of unnecessary rudeness on the OpenBSD ML it's a truck load
better then what you see on fedo
On 14 April 2010 10:50, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> ...
> To: Zachary Uram
> Subject: Re: hi
> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:27:54 EDT."
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:35:26 -0600
> From: Theo de Raadt
>
>> I am a long time Linux user and am interested in trying OpenBS
Am 14 Apr 2010 um 14:50 schrieb Theo de Raadt:
I guess this is the "get lost" mail he is referring to.
Yes, it is a damn fair assessment. When you pay your taxes, do you go
make a personal request for assistance of your prime minister?
Your mail lies about what you saw, so here is the full ex
Zachary Uram wrote:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually a certain
level of f
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:11, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere
> "Michal" == Michal writes:
Michal> "Where can I get this piece of software" which just makes you angry as
Michal> it takes 5 seconds to search it.
There's a reason I have an IRC alias (/goo) for lmgtfy.com . Far too
many users want me to operate google for them.
--
Randal L. Schwartz -
Hi list.
I've spent some time porting one of my favorite dungeon
games (a Rom 2.6 derivative). I've only begun this project,
but have already converted 1700+ lines as such:
strcat -> strlcat
strcpy -> strlcpy
sprintf -> snprintf
Much to my disappointment, I may have to rewrite large portions
befor
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> Time for me to write OpenMUD?
I've had fond memories of CircleMud, and I believe the maintainer is
still around.
--
http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
"This officer's men seem to follow him merely o
http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that
brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass
over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner
eye to see its path. Where the fear has
Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be
rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down the
list at http://bsdstats.org/ .
--
Ron McDowell
San Antonio TX
Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
--
Chris Dukes
On 14 April 2010 14:38, Ron McDowell wrote:
> Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be rude
to
> the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down the list at
> http://bsdstats.org/ .
>
Oh yes, very accurate information, that only shows how many of us
instal
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> > /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
> */
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
>
> I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
> --
> Chris Dukes
>
Are you
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:38:56PM -0500, Ron McDowell wrote:
> Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be
> rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down the
> list at http://bsdstats.org/ .
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Matthias Kilian
wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:38:56PM -0500, Ron McDowell wrote:
>> Yup, nowhere in that goals page does it say anything about "don't be
>> rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down the
>> list at http://bsdstats.org
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
*/
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which
Ron McDowell writes:
> rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down
> the list at http://bsdstats.org/ .
For whatever reason the bsdstats initiative never gained much
popularity in OpenBSD circles, but it's really easy to start dropping
data into the pool there if you wan
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
>>>
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
>>> */
>>>
>>> http://lmgt
> > rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down
> > the list at http://bsdstats.org/ .
>
> For whatever reason the bsdstats initiative never gained much
> popularity in OpenBSD circles, but it's really easy to start dropping
> data into the pool there if you want to. As f
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 08:36:39PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> Ron McDowell writes:
>
> > rude to the casual users." Maybe that is why OpenBSD is so far down
> > the list at http://bsdstats.org/ .
>
> For whatever reason the bsdstats initiative never gained much
> popularity in OpenBSD
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath
wrote:
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
>
> Which is it: you're ticked off the original lmgtfy reply pointed to a pay
> site, or that we tried to point out if you cared *that* much about finding
> the original auther, it shouldn't be that hard?
>
> Sean
I reluctantly reply to the
Theo de Raadt writes:
> Around 3 months after starting it, the author deleted all the records
> except the FreeBSD ones.
That's really bizarre behavior. I was not aware of that part. If the
data isn't actually collected or used sensibly, then there is of
course no reason to try submitting data
> > Around 3 months after starting it, the author deleted all the records
> > except the FreeBSD ones.
>
> That's really bizarre behavior. I was not aware of that part. If the
> data isn't actually collected or used sensibly, then there is of
> course no reason to try submitting data.
No, keep
Hello,
I was wondering, is there any development happening to bring
clientless VPN to OpenBSD?
thanks
> Theo de Raadt writes:
>
> > Around 3 months after starting it, the author deleted all the records
> > except the FreeBSD ones.
>
> That's really bizarre behavior. I was not aware of that part. If the
> data isn't actually collected or used sensibly, then there is of
> course no reason to try
Zack et all,
The OpenBSD community is neither rude nor anti-newbies - they just take
their work personally. I am a newbie and have used this group without any
negative responses. The gruff talk people are referring to is based purely
on lazy questions.
Mehma
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
files.
Now *that* is an interesting question. As the original author, the
Hello List,
So there I was, minding my own business happily patching an
upgraded 4.6 system (upgraded from 4.5 via CD boot).
All going well, until I
get to 008, the kerberos patch :
cc -o kdc 524.o config.o connect.o
kaserver.o kerberos5.o kerberos4.o log.o main.o misc.o print_version.o
parse_
> Hello List,
>
> So there I was, minding my own business happily patching an
> upgraded 4.6 system (upgraded from 4.5 via CD boot).
>
> All going well, until I
> get to 008, the kerberos patch :
>
> cc -o kdc 524.o config.o connect.o
> kaserver.o kerberos5.o kerberos4.o log.o main.o misc.o pr
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
>>
>> At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
>> At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
>> files
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:10:47PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > Around 3 months after starting it, the author deleted all the records
> > > except the FreeBSD ones.
> >
> > That's really bizarre behavior. I was not aware of that part. If the
> > data isn't actually collected or used sensibl
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> You're kidding us, right? You can't bother to google something so
> basic, you complain when someone points you in the right direction,
> make a quick detour for a spelling flame, then act like it'd be way
> more work to email a couple of guys ra
>>It looks like you are still trying to compile 4.5 kerberos sources while
>>running a 4.6 userland.
Nice try, but I'm not that stupid ! ;-)
Following
the install and before doing ANY patches, I did...
cd /usr/src
rm -rf
and
then unzipped src/sys from 4.6 into there.
On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
importantly, is he still a dick?
Sean
head /usr/src/lib/libkrb5/afssys_openbsd.c :
/*$OpenBSD:
afssys_openbsd.c,v 1.2 2009/06/03 14:45:47 jj Exp $*/
/*$KTH:
afssys.c,v 1.57 1998/05/09 17:19:03 joda Exp $*/
> >>It looks like you are still trying to compile 4.5 kerberos sources while
> >>running a 4.6 userland.
>
> Nice try, but I'm not that stupid ! ;-)
>
> Following the install and before doing ANY patches, I did...
>
> cd /usr/src
> rm -rf
> and then unzipped src/sys from 4.6 into there.
Good.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
>> googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
>>
>
> So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
> important
On 4/14/10 5:11 AM, Zachary Uram wrote:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner seems sincere there is usually
$uname -a
OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc
I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit
resolution at 800x600.
If there is anything wrong with my configuration?
X did not start with new_xorg.conf.1.text or new_xorg.conf.2.txt.
The only working xorg.conf
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet <
jean-phili...@ouellet.biz> wrote:
>
> It has been been my experience that if you are willing to read the relevant
> documentation and honestly try to fix your problem on your own but simply
> cannot, the OpenBSD community will be *extremely*
A quick poke around /usr/include/kerberosV looks pretty much the same as
another 4.6 box (file sizes and creation dates all seem to be the same, and a
random md5 of krb5.h yields the same hash).
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Super Biscuit wrote:
> $uname -a
> OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc
>
> I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit
> resolution at 800x600.
> If there is anything wrong with my configuration?
> X did not start with new_
I wrote:
I have been experimenting with a softraid mirror, using two cheap SATA
disks.
In general the performance is very good - except when rebuilding. A quick
set of sums suggests that the problem is seek time.
The disks are 7200rpm, therefore one can hope for 120 seeks per second.
"systat io
>>Did you select comp*.tgz when upgrading from 4.5 to 4.6? Do you have old
>>header files lingering in /usr/include?
Selection was as default, apart
from "-x*" to deslect all the X clutter.
Will go take a look around
/usr/include.
Matthew Roberts wrote:
> I wrote:
>> I have been experimenting with a softraid mirror, using two cheap SATA
>> disks.
>> In general the performance is very good - except when rebuilding. A
>> quick
>> set of sums suggests that the problem is seek time.
>>
>> The disks are 7200rpm, therefore one ca
First let me defend softraid. The rebuild code is designed to offer
maximum data protection. With this is mind certain assumptions were
made.
That said, I am not opposed to a patch to improve performance but with
all things softraid corner-cases are many and complicated. A valid
patch will keep
Thank you for replying.
I'll try his suggestions and will report if it works.
My question now is: How much of xorg.conf can I import from the debian
xorg.conf?
Apologies beforehand.- if the question offend anyone.
--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Bryan Irvine wrote:
From: Bryan Irvine
Subject: Re: Xorg.c
Flame war ahead!
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude.
OMG you sent mail to Theo de Radt asking for help?
> There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in Linux, but if
> a que
On 15/04/2010, at 8:16 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
I had googled all of this before my first post.
In fact, I have been in contact with the current
maintainers of the project. They have explicit
permission, but that doesn't give me explicit
permission.
Ok, now I'm confused.
You've been ranting for a
On 15/04/2010, at 12:15 AM, Chris Bennett wrote:
Zachary Uram wrote:
As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
Linux, but if a questioner
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 07:33:20PM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
> The difference is that OpenBSD is for advanced users.
depends how you define advanced.
when people say "OpenBSD is for developers", that does't mean you
have to be as knowledgable as a kernel hacker to use OpenBSD
effect
If you don't say stupid shit or ask stupid questions
you won't get told to "Get lost".
It's as simple as that.
The OBSD team has already done a *ton* of work that
answers your questions already. It is an insult to
them to not do even a tiny amount of work yourself.
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:50 -0600,
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Jacob Meuser wrote:
SNIP
approach it like a developer. developers *enjoy* figuring things
out on their own. of course, people who enjoy learning about a
subject do eventually become "advanced" at that subject, but that
comes with time.
yep, like I know a lot more about al
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Zachary Uram wrote:
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude. There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in
> Linux, but if a questioner seems since
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:33 PM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> Flame war ahead!
>
> > As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> > reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> > very rude.
>
> OMG you sent mail to Theo de
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote:
>
> sincerity by itself is useless. if you can't take the time to read the
> concise, thoughtfully produced information provided in both manual
> pages, the FAQ, and the mailing list archives then you will most
> definitely be told to gfy and re
Your attitude proves my point. I was not trolling. Grow up!
Zach
<>< http://www.fidei.org ><>
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Bret S. Lambert wrote:
> Internet troll is on the Internet.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:11:56AM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote:
>> As a long time Linux user I will soon
Ok will read it.
Zach
<>< http://www.fidei.org ><>
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Sergey Bronnikov wrote:
> read this paper - www.openbsd.org/papers/opencon06-culture.pdf
>
> On 05:11 Wed 14 Apr , Zachary Uram wrote:
>> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
>> r
You get lost. You seem to think the project exists as an end unto
itself. Develop the most wonderful kernel and userspace in the world
but if no one uses it what is the point? Since your attitude to new
users is "get lost" that reflects very poorly on yourself and
indirectly OpenBSD.
Zach
<>< htt
Thanks peter will read through it.
Zach
<>< http://www.fidei.org ><>
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen
wrote:
> Zachary Uram writes:
>
>> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
>> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who w
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Chris Bennett
wrote:
> OpenBSD does indeed have a different culture.
> You are expected to try and learn on your own.
> If you make that attempt and still fail, you will probably get some help.
> If you have a problem with a port or hardware and clearly explain the
Zachary Uram wrote:
>
> Your attitude proves my point. I was not trolling. Grow up!
>
Another of the type of statement guaranteed to be false.
Actually two of the top linux kernel developers answered my email
directly to them when I had some questions. There was no ridicule or
belittling.
Zach
<>< http://www.fidei.org ><>
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Bayard Bell
wrote:
> Am 14 Apr 2010 um 14:50 schrieb Theo de Raadt:
>
>> I gue
Sorry a lot of people got upset by my message. I will try to learn
OpenBSD on my own since that is the way to do it here.
Zach
<>< http://www.fidei.org ><>
Zachary Uram wrote:
>
> You get lost. You seem to think the project exists as an end unto
> itself. Develop the most wonderful kernel and userspace in the world
> but if no one uses it what is the point? Since your attitude to new
> users is "get lost" that reflects very poorly on yourself an
As does yours. Try being positive instead of negative.
Zach
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Tony Abernethy wrote:
> Zachary Uram wrote:
>>
>> Your attitude proves my point. I was not trolling. Grow up!
>>
> Another of the type of statement guaranteed to be false.
> Actually two of the top linux kernel developers answered my email
> directly to them when I had some questions. There was no ridicule or
> belittling.
Please get off the mailing lists and go read the documentation.
> > The difference is that OpenBSD is for advanced users.
>
> depends how you define advanced.
>
Yes. Imagine someone who use computers, like 2 hours a week and
use Windows. If you give him a computer with one of those GNU/Linux
distros aimed at ease of use he will probably get along easily -
unti
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Zachary Uram wrote:
> Develop the most wonderful kernel and userspace in the world
> but if no one uses it what is the point?
It appears you haven't read the project's goals:
http://openbsd.org/goals.html
Quote:
"Focus on being developer-oriented in all sense
I am POSITIVE you are a troll.
> -Original Message-
> From: Zachary Uram [mailto:net...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:58 PM
> To: Tony Abernethy
> Cc: Bret S. Lambert; misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: OpenBSD culture?
>
> As does yours. Try being positive instead
I know bigmem is still in a state of flux and can be enabled by editing
machdep.c and compiling a custom kernel.
I also realise that it may or may not work on OpenBSD AMD64 due to the
absence of an iommu on non VT-d capable Intel systems, aside from the
AGP/PCI-e GART.
What's the best way to
> Actually two of the top linux kernel developers answered my email
> directly to them when I had some questions. There was no ridicule or
> belittling.
>
lol!
I WANT to see that! Really.
> > I'm much more inclined to the GNU/Linux philosophy of Limitation
> >
>
> Fixed that for you.
>
> Greg
>
This kind of childish attitude is what I meant when I said:
> You will find this almost everywhere. One particular issue of some
> OpenBSD users is that they feel cool because they use Open
Zachary Uram wrote:
>
> Sorry a lot of people got upset by my message. I will try to learn
> OpenBSD on my own since that is the way to do it here.
>
That is the way to learn most anything that actually matters.
I don't think that people were so much upset as they prefer
to gladly make foo
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:14 PM, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO <
vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm much more inclined to the GNU/Linux philosophy of Limitation
> > >
> >
> > Fixed that for you.
> >
> > Greg
> >
>
> This kind of childish attitude is what I meant when I said:
>
> > You will find
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