Re: Questions for OpenBGPd Developers

2009-10-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 04:12:40PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:50:58PM -0700, Barry Friedman wrote: Hi, thanks everyone for the information, this helps give me an idea of the scope and effort

Re: tmux as an educational facilitator

2009-11-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:15:30PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: as an old time screen user i was perplexed to see that when i attached to an already attached tmux session, both clients were updated real time and accepted input as well. the ascii art with the differing terminal window sizes

Re: tmux as an educational facilitator

2009-11-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:21:12AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: thanks everyone on/off-list for pointing out that screen can do this as well. it was not the point of my mail though. it was not a pissing contest what screen and tmux can/can't do. How about you go off this list for a while,

Re: Package dependencies size estimate script

2009-11-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 12:09:05PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: No really, what is the right way to recursively list the dependencies of a given package? pkg_info doesn't seem to do that natively (and the above attempt only works for installed packages indeed). Is that a design decision, say

Re: OpenBSD platform of choice?

2009-11-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:41:35AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote: 2009/11/12 Bob Beck b...@ualberta.ca: Kind of, but I don't really think it's got a future. It's kind of like advocating necrophila with a fresh corpse.. or maybe just doing it with a really hot coma patient. It might be really

Re: Security via the NSA?

2009-11-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 05:42:48PM -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote: 2009/11/21 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com: Depends on whether one trusts the NSA or not. That's the nice thing about open source software; we don't have to, because we can verify their code or mathematics ourselves.

Re: Make utility documentation

2009-11-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:04:16PM -0800, David Hoskin wrote: Could you kindly point me to the documentation about OpenBSD make utility and makefile. A pretty good tutorial can be found here: /usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/ Warning: a large part of this documentation is a bit misleading.

Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?

2009-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 06:08:30AM -0700, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:47:38 +0200 (EET) Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:51:03 -0800 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: mandoc

2010-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:19:27AM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: I just wanted to write a short note about mandoc. You may have seen it mentioned in some recent posts. It's a fantastic replacement for groff. How fantastic? This fantastic: mini:~/src/share/man/man9 time nroff -Tascii -mandoc

Re: pkg_add -F update downgrades the packages

2010-04-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 06:42:55PM +0300, Ozgur Kazancci wrote: Hello. pkg_add -nui -F update -F updatedepends downgrades packages to their lower versions. [...] Using OpenBSD 4.6-stable stable branch for the 4.6 release. Use 4.7 or current. 4.6 doesn't understand version numbers.

Re: updating packages with ports binaries

2010-04-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:26:41PM -0400, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: Normally, as long as you do not use -F something as an option to pkg_add, everything you do with it is safe. (caveat: sometimes there are major upgrades, like for postgresql that require extra actions, but those are when you

Re: make index fails

2010-04-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:04:59PM +0300, Andreas Gerdd wrote: Hello. 'make index' doesn't work inside /usr/ports after i update the ports. It only works when i remove the entire ports folder and get it again from cvs. # cd /usr/ports # cvs -q -d$CVSROOT up -r OPENBSD_4_6 -Pd M INDEX P

Re: make index fails

2010-04-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 05:03:43PM +0300, Andreas Gerdd wrote: Thanks for your answer. We change obj to pobj on purposes. obj has some special propertis that WILL throw make. Does this mean doing a 'make index' is not necessary anymore? Best wishes. No, it means that if you do a make

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 04:16:08PM +0800, Artur Grabowski wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the compliment, but I'm a *lot* older than nine. Yet you still believe that it's ok for guests to tell the hosts how to behave in their

Re: OpenBSD culture?

2010-04-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 08:37:18AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 04:16:08PM +0800, Artur Grabowski wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks

asking for donation: laptop mostly out of commission

2010-04-25 Thread Marc Espie
My current development machine is failing... the fan turns on and off in haphazard ways... today, it took me 3/4h to turn it back on, after roughly 30 FAN FAILURE bios messages. Out of warranty, I disassembled it (easy for thinkpads), found nothing obvious, and put it back together (obviously no

Re: asking for donation: laptop mostly out of commission

2010-04-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 07:32:14PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: I will post a reply as soon as the needed amount is reached (Marc is looking for a vendor right now to have the exact price). If any money is left, it'll be send as a donation to OpenBSD. The exact price might be a bit

Hold for now, Re: asking for donation: laptop mostly out of commission

2010-04-25 Thread Marc Espie
I think we probably have enough money. I'll check things tomorrow (it's nearly zzz time) and tell you how things go. A big collective THANK YOU to everyone so far. I'll be sure to send personal notes (in private of course) once I've cross-checked everything.

Thanks everyone

2010-04-26 Thread Marc Espie
A new laptop has been ordered, and I shoul have enough left for a bit more power (expect new dpb thingies). I've tried to reply to everyone, but there are some obvious anti-spam measures in the paypal addresses, so maybe some of you are not going to see it ? So thanks again. Don't hesitate to

windows 7 multiboot

2010-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 02:34:44PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: A new laptop has been ordered, and I shoul have enough left for a bit more power (expect new dpb thingies). So I got the new laptop, and I'm playing a bit with it. One pleasant surprise is... windows7. Apparently, it includes tools

new laptop, thanks

2010-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
The gfx appears to be fully supported. Oh yeah, and the fan turns at 3000 RPM, according to the sensors ;) OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #556: Mon Apr 26 21:12:33 MDT 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz

Re: How to work around this compiler bug

2010-05-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:39:00AM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Hi, the following piece of code compiles fine using g++ 4.2.4, but fails using g++ 3.3.5 in the base system: error: operands to ?: have different types It is part of ptlib, which is the base library for opal, which

Re: How to work around this compiler bug

2010-05-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 12:54:42PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Christopher Zimmermann madro...@zakweb.de wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2010 14:11:22 +0200 Marc Espie wrote: On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:39:00AM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: Hi

Re: make(1): should := expand twice?

2010-05-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:13:59AM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: Would a patch for this be desirable? I have very limited hacking time, but I could try to come up with something over the weekend/next week. It should, of course, be extensively tested before applying. (OTOH, the current

Re: Installer bug? - Upgrade 4.6 to 4.7 failed to upgrade base47, on i386 and amd64

2010-06-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 06:48:18PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote: But I don't understand what he's doing differently to me. A new release is out, you want to upgrade from the previous release to the new one, and then you want to apply the errata patches. Look, there are several flaws to the way

Re: make(1): should := expand twice?

2010-06-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:22:27PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:13:59AM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: Would a patch for this be desirable? I have very limited hacking time, but I could try to come up with something over the weekend/next week. It should, of course

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Chris Dukes wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html IHBT... There are those that use OpenBSD for every bit of their computing experience. I do not even

Re: anyone use these for firewall?

2010-06-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:01:52PM -0700, LeviaComm Networks NOC wrote: On 6/15/2010 9:41 AM, Lars Nooden wrote: Chris Smith wrote: Thanks for any input on these or other suggestions for quick (new Atom or better) low power network appliance type gear for keeping -current.. Finding out if

Re: Perl problems in -current

2010-07-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:25:44AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:26:42 +0100 Tom Murphy open...@pertho.net wrote: This error does not occur in 4.7-release. Has there been something up with the Perl packages in -current lately? Marc Espie (espie@) has been doing tons

Re: ldconfig: default path?

2009-12-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 04:06:34PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: I have now discovered that I overlooked the setting of /usr/local/lib in /etc/rc. But it seems to mean that I have to re-run ldconfig every time I install a new shared library,

Re: What does your environment look like?

2010-01-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:32:47PM -0500, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: Very minimalist: No xdm -- I login and type 'startx;logout'. Use exec startx instead same effect. Cleaner.

Re: update packages error

2010-01-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 07:09:03PM +0700, sonjaya wrote: hi all i have openbsd 4.3 as mx server , i try update packages i try ^^^ following this from this link http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade44.html before update to new one i try update packages You have things backwards.

Re: iwn stopped working after OpenBSD upgrade in January, 2010

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 05:50:57PM +, leona...@sympatico.ca wrote: I have been tracking openbsd current (i386) for a while. The latest upgrade OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #391: Fri Jan 15 14:55:45 MST 2010 and iwn-firmware-5.2.tgz seem to no longer work. I have a 'no link' error

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:43:31AM +0100, Song Li wrote: What seems a little counter intuitive to me is: I would see sd0 as a shortcut of /dev/sd0 for fdisk, but fdisk /dev/sd0 does not work. It's not, as miod pointed out. Is it something you tried to deduce on your own ? or some

Re: Package related questions: pkg_info, pkg_add, etc.

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 06:42:45AM +0100, Song Li wrote: Thank you Bret. I can see that now after Aaron's comments and yours. cheers, This is actually documented. You can tell by telling me where you looked, and where I should put the info to be sure newbies see it. From packages(7), third

Re: Another question: device naming convention

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:31:31AM +0100, Song Li wrote: The man page for fdisk matches the actual OS. There is no typo. On the other hand, IMHO, a system should allow its user's reasonable assumption. It would be a headache for everyone if we have to memorize the exact syntax for every

Re: iwn stopped working after OpenBSD upgrade in January, 2010

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 09:59:14AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Marc Espie es...@nerim.net writes: There is an iwn-firmware-5.3. where do you fetch that? the man page still refers to the 5.2 version, which also seems to be the most recent one at http://damien.bergamini.free.fr

Re: The insecurity of OpenBSD

2010-01-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:13:38PM -0500, Dan Harnett wrote: I also do not understand why strlcpy and strlcat are causing the author so much grief. This person didn't seem to know they existed before writing the article. I work in an ISP environment and it has caused zero issues to both

Re: cannot update packages after upgrade on 4.6 current as of january 12

2010-01-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:57:05AM +0100, Landry Breuil wrote: Can't locate OpenBSD/OldLibs.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1 /usr/local/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1 /usr/libdata/perl5 /usr/local/libdata/perl5

Re: pkg_delete

2010-01-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: Yeah, stepping from 3.9 to 4.6 might be a big change, but I still want this -F force-flag in place. :) Nope, won't happen like this. Especially since you're not giving me complete information. You should actually send proper

Re: error building jdk 1.5/1.6 on current as of 13 Feb

2010-02-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:02:28AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Louis V. Lambrecht lvl...@skynet.be wrote: /bin/sh is *NOT* /usr/local/bin/bash Very true, but I'm not sure how that is at all relevant. bash-4.0$ make /bin/sh: no closing quote *** Error

Re: error building jdk 1.5/1.6 on current as of 13 Feb

2010-02-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 02:50:46PM -0600, Donald Cooley wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:02:28AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Louis V. Lambrecht lvl...@skynet.be wrote: /bin/sh

Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?

2010-03-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, Iam confused on the different result I get when I compile userland on any machine better then a Dual Core 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 160GB 7200 SATA / SATA ii You're not even telling us how you compile userland. How should we help

Re: Average time for compiling userland? == benchmarking CPU/IO? best result for database hosting?

2010-03-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 09:27:36AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello, I dont have obj on ram, or /tmp . Iam using make build. Thank you Andres On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Andres Salazar wrote: Hello

Re: Problems with Build World

2010-03-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:15:30AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote: My script builds the 4.6-release and 4.6-stable pulled 1/26. It chokes on 2 copies of 4.6-stable pulled today. As I've said, I don't care about the error at this point, I want to know how the build process works. Restating my

Re: Problems with Build World

2010-03-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:17:09PM -0600, Bryan wrote: #!/bin/sh cd /usr/obj rm -rf * cd /usr/xobj rm -rf * cd /usr/build rm -rf * cp /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf/GENERIC.MP . config -s /usr/src/sys -b . GENERIC.MP make clean make depend make make install Never *ever* write this,

Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-05 Thread Marc Espie
Well, sometimes we fuck up -current. Not on purpose, but it happens. If you run into a broken snapshot, you may have to wait a few days until a new snapshot hits the mirrors, usually with everything fixed. ... and so, your system may be fucked for a few days. That said, we never get enough

Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:12:17PM -0500, nixlists wrote: We're very far from lemmings-linux, aka debian, where very little engineering actually gets done, and where the whole development process relies on hordes of lemmings^Wusers going over the cliff to actually get things to

Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:36:04PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: Not many people have the bandwidth and stack of systems required to do distributed builds of the *ENTIRE* ports tree. None the less, great people doing bulk builds is how your packages get built for all the mirrors. At present,

Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:12:17PM -0500, nixlists wrote: The other problem, that gets mentioned is some people are forced to run -current because some packages will only work with -current, and backporting sucks for many reasons. Forgot to nitpick this one. *nobody* is *forced* to run

Re: OT: multiple web servers on OpenBSD (WAS: OT: vmware blah blah)

2010-03-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:40:30AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: OMG!! running multiple daemons??? Wow why didn't I think of that?? I *love* OS overhead on misbehaving hardware emulation because it is what the industry prescribes. Don't forget the 50% hit on I/O speed because that is what

Re: OT: multiple web servers on OpenBSD (WAS: OT: vmware blah blah)

2010-03-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:17:29PM -0500, daniel wrote: We're currently running about 15 rails, php and coldfusion apps with the number growing almost weekly. As much as possible, each app gets its own VM (or two) and is proxied to an outward facing web server. I use running xen on centos. Not

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:19:41PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote: openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years old. are there any future plans to update kde4? Regards, Donald Cooley

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:13:16AM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: KDE cares in so far as they accept patches and would welcome a developer that targets OpenBSD. I know because I've talked to some of them on IRC. There's however no effort to do it themselves or even set up a testbox to make sure

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:42:26AM -0400, Mike Small wrote: I can think of some people who would consider that a great gatekeeper for the profession: everyone has to write his or her own compiler for all the coding they do. With enough time on my hands, sure, why not ? But that's a main issue:

Re: recent hardware with older OpenBSD versions

2010-03-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 09:11:59PM +0100, T. Valent wrote: [old versions on new hardware] And the answer is that we wouldn't know, since we don't run old code. I didn't expect that anyone of the OpenBSD core-team would have an answer due to the obvious fact that you must be working with

Re: ZFS in OpenBSD

2010-03-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:29:51PM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote: The question of why 2 different BSDs have no issues including specific code into their base, while another does is a valid one. When asked hard questions, labeling the person asking them a troll is sadly a common occurrence on the

Re: 4.6 patch support

2010-03-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:11:53AM -0400, Woodchuck wrote: Ports/packages are sort of hit-or-miss. This is a very Spartan situation, and comes from a shortage of resources. Partly. Being able to drop old shit fairly quickly is also very important in terms of quality, since we don't have to

Re: La Corrézienne prend soin d'Elle !

2010-04-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:49:46PM +0300, La Correzienne wrote: Si vous ne visualisez pas ce mail correctement, merci de cliquer iciPour jtre s{r(e) de recevoir notre newsletter, merci de rajouter service-clie...@la-correzienne.com ` votre carnet d'adresses. Si vous n'arrivez pas ` visualiser

Re: cat0/tr.0 broken?

2010-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:46:30AM -0700, Claus Assmann wrote: Are formatting problems in the man pages currently expected due to the change to mandoc or should those be reported as bugs? I installed a snapshot form 2010-04-02 and saw this layout (same for 2010-04-05

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:49:07PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:36:17PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote: Is there any useful documentation that explains how you're supposed to write C code and what's changed under the i18n New World Order? From your message, it

Re: developing openbsd?

2010-08-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 08:23:03AM +, Jay K wrote: I've looked all over www.openbsd.org. Any sort of guide/projects for new wannabe developers? (not new to programming) Just the bug list? Fix something send diffs? If you're serious about this, just use OpenBSD intensively. After a few

quick EuroBSDCon report

2010-10-11 Thread Marc Espie
Nice event. Hotel probably ways too expensive, but since I paid for it with my time and my talks, I didn't care all that much. Surprisingly, just one NetBSD talk (Alistair Crooks). Where did they hide ? Do they still think it's a FreeBSD conference masquerading as an open forum ? Lots of

Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:24PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:39:35 +0100 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in /etc/mk.conf. I found when using fetch_packages I had to use make install

Re: seeking SQLite on OpenBSD stories

2010-12-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:57:22AM +0800, Edwin Eyan Moragas wrote: Hi Misc, i'm looking for experience of using SQLite on OpenBSD. if anybody in the list can share 1) how SQLite is being used 2) size of the database 3) performance metrics (if you have them) anything about SQLite on

Re: the new rc.d subsystem

2010-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 06:26:36PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 05:38:19PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot said that On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:25:40 +0100, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: why not reuse the /etc/rc.conf style set these to NO to turn them off.

Re: removing unneeded package dependencies

2010-12-27 Thread Marc Espie
Sorry about the lack of feedback. Basically, there are quite a few severe limitations to the way pkg_delete currently walks dependencies. Putting a band-aid such as your patch is not going to help, and yeah, redesigning that to work better is on my list.

Re: New WANTLIB formats in ports

2011-01-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 07:04:14PM -0600, Markus Peloquin wrote: I've been having problems building ports in -current with the new WANTLIB formats. I just noticed a commit from late November saying I need -current {dpb, sqlports, pkg_add}, and I had updated the base system to -current:

Re: pkg_add -iu failure on newest amd64 snapshot

2011-01-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 02:54:58PM -0500, Michael W. Lucas wrote: Summary: Is this error worth a bug report? Not any more. Can't call method errsay on unblessed reference at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/Add.pm line 693. Fixed, thanks. My packages are now in an inconsistent state, as

Re: To GD or not to GD

2011-01-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 09:03:11PM +, Timothy Legge wrote: Ok. Im happy with the progress Im making with OpenBSD! Ive been using for a little over a week now and Im impressed with what it can do so far. I now have this question I have installed Joomla! 1.6 which is working all fine

Re: Printing (well anything) using lpd...

2011-01-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:51:15PM -0800, Sean Kamath wrote: %! newpath clippath stroke showpage These four commands were the smallest PostScript I could figure out to send to a printer to print something without burning up tons of toner. It should produce a small line all the way around

Re: Does pkg_info -E need full path?

2011-02-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 01:13:34PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: Is this the intended behaviour? Yeah. it's meant to find where a file you know lives. You want pkglocatedb.

Re: OT: Risks of CAs (Re: Your web development opinions)

2011-02-24 Thread Marc Espie
I think your guys are into elaborate schemes and totally forgetting low-level tech/social engineering attack. Remember that most people out there don't understand https, they will just see that little lock and think I'm secure... yeah, sure, from 3rd party. But it's so easy to set up a fake site,

Re: pkg_add -L localbase

2011-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:15:06AM +0200, Gregory Edigarov wrote: Hello, Is this working ever? Yes Yesterday I was trying to add a certain packages and wanted them to reside in the very separate base (/usr/opt) so them will be easilly removed after my trial of them. I did 'pkg_add -L

Re: pkg_add -L localbase

2011-03-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 07:20:33AM -0430, Andres Perera wrote: about AddCreateDelete.pm r1.15 1. -L was never there (adding back? had to go through the entire log for the file to verify adding back) Of course it was not. you'll have to check the whole history of the tools to figure out what

Re: new upper limit with BIGMEM

2011-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:59:29PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: driver level? The limit of profanity comments in the kernel source code? There's a limit for that ? possibly in bisounours-land, not in our country !

Re: style(9) question on typedef and struct tag

2011-04-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:39:28PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Mike Williams ob...@eandem.co.uk wrote: The style(9) man page contains the statement Don't use the same name for a struct tag and a typedef, as this makes the code unusable from C++. My

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-10-31 Thread Marc Espie
All the developers currently active in OpenBSD have followed the same process: scratch their own itch. Start using OpenBSD. Notice things which are not perfect (there are a lot of them), fix them. Get noticed. Once you send enough correct fixes, you get an account. If your fixes are bogus, we

Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

2007-11-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:41:35AM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: --- Paul Irofti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 11:22:53AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 11/1/07, Juan Miscaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang. Is there any priority for having OpenBSD support

my work at p2k7

2007-11-02 Thread Marc Espie
This was really shortly mentioned on undeadly, because it probably deserves a separate announcement and article. First, I want to really thank robert@ again for the organization, and putting up with rude OpenBSD french developers as he has... plus the people who donated enough to make these kind

Re: Issues with pkg_add wget on 4.2

2007-11-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 05:00:34PM -0700, Don Jackson wrote: In my install42.site file, I add several packages to a machine that I'll want later. In this case, I execute pkg_add wget, and here is the result: Installing package: wget ldconfig: /var/run/ld.so.hints: No such file or

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:14:20PM +0100, Daniel wrote: ^^^ I can not create the file in /tmp, although I got world write permissions to it. It seems if I'm in the wheel group and the wheel group owns the directory, then only the group permissions counts? Yes, that's the way Unix

Re: When will OpenBSD support UTF8?

2007-11-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:06:21PM -0500, Juan Miscaro wrote: Thank you. I also have a need to be able to write UTF-8 on my non-X systems. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? // juan We don't have a console that supports utf8 for now. ncurses also needs some complicated update before

Re: lib not found expat.8.0 - requires xbase42.tgz - insufficient disk on CF card

2007-11-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:11:28PM +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i need the gettext package, requiring expat.8.0 from xbase42.tgz as covered in the FAQ. unfortunately I've struck this issue on a 256MB CF soekris build where I don't have enough space for a full install :-( are

Re: win32-codecs, avi and amd64 question

2007-11-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 08:13:42PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: mplayer cannot understand DVD menus. That is the only problem mplayer has IMHO. ogle is about the only unix app out there which works reasonably well with dvd menus. mplayer has a lot of minor issues. Lots of option

Re: system not using second entry in $PKG_PATH

2007-11-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 08:21:17AM -0500, Juan Miscaro wrote: On two OpenBSD 4.2 systems I have a (master) system that contains two repositories - one of regular packages and one of packages derived from ports. On the client (slave) system I have a script with a PKG_PATH containing both

Re: File collision while using pkg_add

2007-11-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 11:31:30AM +0100, Pieter Verberne wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to install gnome-doc-utils : $ sudo pkg_add gnome-doc-utils perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE =

Re: File collision while using pkg_add

2007-11-24 Thread Marc Espie
Just to make one point clear: yep the collision report does not give you an `easy' way to delete the files (though saving the file and apply some simple sed/awk like pattern is not that hard), because that's the wrong way to think about the problem. If you've got files in /usr/local, and pkg_*

progress report on make

2007-12-01 Thread Marc Espie
Well, it's time for an update on how things are going in make-land. The initial pass at getting make -j in shape was enough to get it to work in most cases. As usual, when you start down an unused code path, it also uncovered a lot of issues, some of them fairly small, others really big. If you

Re: progress report on make

2007-12-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 06:24:46AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: Does the eventual game plan for make -j include the ability to build on a cluster of systems? No. If you're in ports land, you already have dpb for that. For compilers, you have distcc. In fact, I removed whatever code there was

Re: Could Hiawatha replace Apache as in base HTTP server if it's license changed?

2007-12-07 Thread Marc Espie
Whatever. I'm responsible for tracking down an annoying bug Antoine Jacoutot had with hiawatha on some machines. Namely, hiawatha was not starting up if you had 1024 file descriptors available, or something really weird like that. Turns out the culprit was bad coding habits. Some system call was

Re: Code signing in OpenBSD

2007-12-07 Thread Marc Espie
As far as packages go, we know how to do signing. At least the technical part. The issue is not technical. As always with distributed authentication schemes.

Re: About non-free software in OpenBSD

2007-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:15:46AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote: Hi. I have just listed to the interview of Richard Stallman on BSDTalk: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard-stallman.html In the interview he states: I am unhappy with the various distributions of BSD, because

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: One question particularly relevant for this list is why I don't recommend OpenBSD. It is not about what the system allows. (Any general purpose system allows doing anything at all.) It is about what the system suggests to the

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:27:08PM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote: Nobody is criticizing RMS over his opinion. They are criticizing him for ignorance and misrepresentation of the facts regarding OpenBSD. Actually, no, I am criticizing RMS over his opinion. He's supposed to have dedicated his

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 03:37:31AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: However, if distribution D includes this easier way to install in its ports system, by doing so distribution D endorses it and takes on the ethical responsibility for it. Nope. Users have responsability for what they do. We do

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:37:02PM +1100, Damien Miller wrote: This incredibly misguided. People won't switch to free software because of hectoring and hamfisted attempts to frustrate their choices, but they instantly switch when free software becomes a compelling replacement - look at Apache

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:48:44PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz-long.html According to Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zangband License: Other/Proprietary License Bullshit. If you had gone to the trouble of

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: So have you sent these types of unrecommendations to other OS' mailing lists or just OpenBSD's? I generally don't raise the issue, and I did not raise it this time. I did not start this discussion. I posted on this

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:06:34PM +0100, Brian Hansen wrote: Hi. I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are very skillfull C programmers. Unlike you. You're not even skilled at looking through mailing-list archives. This specific subject has already been debated to

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