a.) yeah, yeah, all this talk about more than music fest -- the
wilkes-barre fest (http://www.ignostic.com/fest) is only going to be a
bazillion times better (band-wise, at least)! just b/c your precious bright
eyes won't be tagging along w. the faint doesn't mean that you shouldn't go.
-Do Make Say Think CD-Goodbye enemy Airship...Constellation always has nice
packaging.
-Molasses CD- on Alien8
-Tortoise CD-on Thrill Jockey...forgot the title, but it's the brown
cardboard one.
hmm
Phil
Hi there, this is Bruce who does the crystal-night.com Modest Mouse website.
I want to add a section to my site with setlists on it. This where all of
you come in. Those of you who know the setlists from various shows you have
attended (or have on tape), please email them to me. Please make
Bruce..
this is from the dallas show on 6-1-00 at the
galaxy club
1. Dramamine
2. Neverending Math Equation
3. 3rd Planet
4. Truckers Atlas
5. Perfect Disguise
6. Trailer Trash
7. Instrumental (Isaac Backstage Puking
Mix)
8. Paper Thin
Walls
9. Doin The Cockroach
10. Instumental (Isaac
Is there anyway to get tese all to come in one digest instead of five
digests per day?
Got the new album last night. Didn't like it too much the first time I
listened to it, but that was through a really fucked up stereo. Liked
it a bit more the second time, though I still don't think it's as
hey everyone,
i was just wondering if any of you knew what kind of Fender amp it is that
Isaac uses...it's the big one with 8 speakers on it...if anyone knows what
the name or anything is, let me know, thanks! :)
brian
Hey is there anyone that is going to this aint no picnic that is driving
through or near chicago and would like another passenger or two??
please?
z.a.c.h.
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um, so i read the title of the post, and i was thinking, yes, kyle maclachlan is a
god. but then there was no mention of him in the email. It is good to see he is in
hamlet because ive been missing him. about 6 months ago i went on another twin peaks
kick, and this time watched the two hour
From: Chris Stratton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what does everyone think of their first self titled
album vs. pinkerton??? i only own the first one and wanted to
know what everyone though tof the comparisons...
my brother says i am not a true fan because i don't like
Pinkerton. i don't, apart from
these are those secret shows i mentioned, i found this info on
weezer.net under "news", not "tour":
*6/20 - San Diego, CA @ The Casbah [advertised as Goat
Punishment], osp a.c.syndicate open - doors open 8:30 - $10 -
21+ over only
* 6/21 - Long Beach, CA @ Lava Lounge [advertised as Goat
You see, the problem was that i started drinking like 5 hours before the show started.
I was well on my way to wasted when i got to the Showbox, i fucking missed Duster, who
i really wanted to see, and my date was pissing me off. "Buy us more drinks!"
uhg.
Anyway Love as Laughter was ok, but
Okay..
I'm about eight years behind the mailing list, but in the monthly-or-so skim
i get to give it, i noticed the VH1 Storytellers post, and it got me
thinking...
So..
what do you guys think the new album's about? Like, i guess track by track,
or as a whole.. i'm not sayin' it's Lamb Lies
Ive always thought a lot of the songs' lyrics were somewhat similar to the
book "lord of the flies," well, maybe just a fewi.e what people are made
of and alone down there...
.bagel.
is it just me, or does the mouse seem like a deer in headlights being on a
major label?
the billboard feature is little uneasy, plus the packaging is a bit much.
but maybe i'm over-reacting.
i love the new album, but i guess i'm just worried that they'll get squashed
in the major-label cycle.
what's this i hear about weezer playing does anyone have details? i
would WALK to cali to see them play (from kc) and if someone could help, i
would really appreciate anything!
heart,
kelli
Well, I gotta say, my first reaction to the album made me sick to my
stomach. I thought to myself, "Oh my god, Epic has just ruined one
of the greatest bands around today." I wanted to write them a letter
telling them so. I thought it was overproduced, way more
depressed-sounding, and I
une 13, 2000 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Sunday/Monday Recap from SF
Yeah Sunday was great they played lots of songs...They even
pulled out a
little Crazy Gnome action!!! it was great. They played for about two
hours..the new guitar player was way to loud, at
y, June 15, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: [MMouse]: let's re-analyze the term homophobia + fishing with john.
sorry to be nitpicky, blake, but while one could trace the word origins in
the manner of which you have done, it's not quite correct. the homo in
homophobic refers specifically to "homosexu
yeah cameron, the crowd was bad. waddya expect this is surf city. moshing was
cool in 1987, but as ian mackaye says " find a new dance it's 1995 for
chrissakes.."
dramamine was pretty amazing, but yeah the crowd was pretty unimaginative.
Maybe im just a jaded oldtymer, but sometimes i think
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uhmmm for the life of me i can't figure out what f***ts is
i thought it meant faggots. =(
my vote is that it says "farrts"
did i say YAY yet? yay... anyways.
and uh... water water water
jusqu'à la fin, daniel ryder the park ranger
http://foolarchy.com/redelvis
In a message dated 6/16/00 7:17:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it just didn't feel like the
same band to me. My boyfriend said to me, "Sweety, I think we may
have to find a new favorite band..." I can feel a lot of angry emails headed
my way,
its totally cool not to
In a message dated 6/15/00 11:29:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what's this i hear about weezer playing does anyone have details? i
would WALK to cali to see them play (from kc) and if someone could help, i
would really appreciate anything!
heart,
In a message dated 6/16/00 6:27:33 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
what's this i hear about weezer playing does anyone have details? i
would WALK to cali to see them play (from kc) and if someone could help, i
would really appreciate anything!
i think theyre playing
I think the IFC promo for "Fishing with John" says it all:
"John Lurie doesn't know anything about fishing. But his friends don't know that!"
I just wish he'd make MORE! I've seen the tom waits one twenty times...
Karina
I don't really want to drag this out anymore, but I have some idea yr just griping to
gripe, so I'm just going to argue to argue and be done with it...
1."Santa Monica, CA". I'm pretty damn sure Courtney Love doeesn't live there, because
she is admittedly all about glamour and SM is,as a whole
by all means yea!!! ~melissa
Right on, sista.
Maybe im just a jaded oldtymer, but sometimes i think you kids need to
enroll
in a class called punk rock 101, and learn some history.
i dont know
gertrude
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I can see people not digging the new album, it does sound a lot
different from their older stuff. But make no mistake, MA sounds
EXACTLY like Isaac and the band want it to sound, it has nothing to do
with what Epic wants. Brian Deck, the guy who produced the album, is the
architect behind the Red
hat is, Modest Mouse as they've
intended to sound. Anyways, I'm all for it - I love the new album something
awful.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MMouse]: Re: initial reaction (not so sugar
I think the best place to get weezer info would be at weezer.net, it is their
official website, so I think it would be the most accurate. THey listed the
tour dates weezer is playing in the news section. ~melissa
hmmm well, i guess it could have been in 1987 that i was in SF on Monday watching
people mosh to modest mouse. to think of it, it does seem like more than 4 days ago,
yeah, it was13 years ago. But wait, punk rock 101? um, i could take that, and learn
all about up and coming bands like
One last gasp and then its back to lurking -- what I said with the
K/Up/KRS sound was pretty stupid. I should have been more specific, what
I meant to say was that there is a certain same-ness to some of the NW
indie rock produced by Calvin Johnson. Up, as we all know, is a sweet
label with a
pinkerton is my favorite, but I could never choose.
Marissa
Mark says:
"...just as someone can betray themselves to be a
"passive homophobe" (even though I still don't know
what that means) by things which are said, but are not
explicitly stated."
I understand and agree with what you are saying, but
for someone to ascertain that an individual is being
Heh heh, I certainly know what you mean about that,
Ruxx. Remind me to fly MvvM out to the east coast
when they come this way again because I WILL NOT be
denied "Crazy Gnome" at my next show. WILL NOT.
My bestest pal Ed I coined a syndrome long ago to
describe a few girls with whom we
you know what dusty? i'm sick and tired of you using thing i said as your
quotes... are you making fun of me, is that it? i don't know who the fuck
you think you are but you are really starting to get on my nerves... fucking
asshole... i swear, don't make me start to make fun of you for
SO, this is horribly off-topic, but what do ya'll think of the new Real
World? I like this new cast; they seem pretty mellow and no one comes off as
terribly annoying. Sadly, I can't really decide which girl I'd rather stick
the pick to. The Morman girl is cute, with that "innocent virgin"
i use your words as quotes so i can purge myself of them. the fact that i have the
oppertunity to hear the trash that come out of your mouth makes me not want to live
anymore. everynight i slam my head against the wall in an effort to rid myself of the
evil that you have shoveled down my
take a look at this tripe:
www.supa-fly.com
www.planetjulie.com
and if you go to byu.edu you can find all these crazy articles about how
julie broke the honor code by sipping mountain dew and sleeping in the
same room as a boy.
the new cast really blows, im sorry to say.
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000,
so, weezer is playing the warped tour in SF, Tahoe, and Fresno, and then two shows, on
July 3 and 4 in LA. and they're playing santa barbara tomorrow.
on to the albums. pinkerton is very different from the blue album. less synth, more
rock. if yer one of those "i like buddy holly" types,
hello amy and others,
usually i just read the archives of the list, i just subscribed so i could
give a pretty irrefutable reason as to why not to shop at the
gap...the other reasons, being different, not a sheep, pretty much
bullshit, you pick your herd of sheep and join their mindset, be it
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i've never seen storytellers so i don't know.
not that i really WANT to see them on international tv, but
storytellers is
this show where bands (or solo artists) play songs and before
each song they
talk about what the song is
If anyone can find where to purchase the MA on vinyl, can they help me out?
I haven't tried my local record stores yet, but I have an idea they either
won't have them or they will sell out. There is ONE on ebay, and I don't
really want
to go that route yet. I was miffed to see that you can't
CDNow.com has it on vinyl for $16.00. I got it on vinyl @ Newbury
Comics in Portland Maine and paid about that much. As for the
quality; the packaging is cheap... it's very thin cardboard. There are
no inserts or anything. The lyrics are printed on one of the slip
covers, which are made of
you know what i hate? when i go to a thrift shop..and see gap clothing (even if its
hideous reject gap cloths...bad shit) and still..since its got the word gap on the tag
they hike up the price sometimes like..$10 more than everything else. i dont
know...its okay if they depend on hiking up
so far im liking this real world which is odd for me to do so soon after it
has started as i usually hate the cast until i get to really knwo them
because for the first few episodes it seems like theyre not the cast yet due
to me not getting over saying goodbye to last seasons cast
i think
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [MMouse]: Ms. Love's Manifesto
2. Courtney Love has a rich, famous, dead ex-husband.
I have been sooo busy, and i just got to my mail box
for the first time in days.. so yeah i am behind by
about 31 modest mouse digest emails.. bear with me:
In the last year i have heard strange things come out
of Krock... the get up kids had a week of fame at
Krock too... i wouldn't expect
I have been sooo busy, and i just got to my mail box
for the first time in days.. so yeah i am behind by
about 31 modest mouse digest emails.. bear with me:
In the last year i have heard strange things come out
of Krock... the get up kids had a week of fame at
Krock too... i wouldn't expect
Okay, well I have total faith in Modest Mouse, so as long as the
album is exactly how they want it and not how someone else made them
make it, I won't go and kill anybody just yet. Except maybe the
keyboardist... I still don't like him...
--Audrey
From: "Mark Richardson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey, let's not!
This 'topic' is GAY.
Phil
speaking of weezerwhat does everyone think of their first self titled
album vs. pinkerton??? i only own the first one and wanted to know what
everyone though tof the comparisons...
I love Pinkerton...even more than the blue album, actually. lyrically, it
kicks the blue album's ass.
5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: MA Vinyl??etc
Other giveaways to the cheapness are how they always use the
same standard labels on the records and also lack of gatefold albums
The Black Heart Procession 3 Song recording has a nice picture on the side
that has no music.
but, it's t
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone who went to this show happened to get a
good bootleg of it? I like to have boots of good shows I've so I can
relive the event (and since the fuckers at the door never gave me a
ticket stub back I have no way of commemorating the evening...). If
anybody's
CTED]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MMouse]: RE: MA Vinyl??etc
Other giveaways to the cheapness are how they always use the
same standard labels on the records and also lack of gatefold albums
The Black Heart Procession 3 Song recording has a nice picture on the side
info:
morethanmusicfest.com
--frenchy
you all better show up!!!
I agree w/ that.
On a side (side) note, anyone here familiar w/ Marvin Pontiac?
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the IFC promo for "Fishing with John" says it all:
"John Lurie doesn't know anything about fishing. But his friends don't know that!"
I just wish he'd
Where are you living at? It's selling for 13.99 to 14.99 here (Tempe).
and whats the deal with the moon and antarctica being priced at
$17.99even the swell indie record shops are selling it for this price.
i'll buy it tho, as i've already downloaded all the songs from napster and
burned
They have the t-shirt on vinyl now? Wow.
Also, if you hate the quality of Up vinyl, why did you order all the
back catalog in that format?
(Btw-I was j/k on the first part.)
Justin
Anyways, I just ordered most of MM's catalog that I didn't have on vinyl
from UP! - LDFSWNTTA, LCW, Broke
I got it (already?) on sale for $12.99 here...at a Warehouse music store on
my break from work. Pretty good price I thought.
*J*
Boulder Colorado
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and i could go away and you could wish that I'd stayed or just stayed
gone
that sonicyouth and stereolab concert is about to be in dc. anyone peep game
yet? any good? i love sonicyouth, but stereolab i don't know. and i still
can't afford the new MM album. just tunin' napster downloads and those live
songs
It kind of bums me out that the Mouse didn't do a third installment of Lounge
like they said they would. I did enjoy the other two and wanted to hear what
happened with the pornographer
Katherine
Item #2- I'm the one who posted the first anti-fratercrombie and
bitch/modest mouse thing. Yeah, I'm stupid for messing it up, it was apples
in stereo playing in the store, not MM. I am a retard. BUT...Amy has many
good points about this issue (and thanx for backing a retard like me, and
yeah
i'm not a big fan of Courtney Love's music, but I thought this (long)
speech by her was brilliant. even if you hate her, or hate
Metallica, or get tired of hearing her talk, I suggest you read this.
Especially if you are a musician. really, it's worth reading the
whole thing.
p.s. now that
hell yeah, i like it!
(i love it. i want some more of it.)
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From: "George Booze" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: yea or nay?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:17:42 EDT
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I hope everyone who has the new album will reply to this: just give a simple
YEA(H) !
In a message dated 6/15/00 7:12:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html
thanks for posting that to the list...it was very interesting to read
hm
- Original Message -
From: Chris Stratton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MMouse]: yea or nay?
hell yea!!
-- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! --
chris
- Original Message -
From: George Booze [EMAIL
well, since bright eyes has become an ON topic item, i can safely post
about them today. there is a dbl cd compilation that just came out with a
new bright eyes song on it. you all should get it. on top of bright eyes
you get an absolutely stunning track from ted leo that is practically
worth the
ost doesnt sound
like the old mouse i used to(and still do) love.
~blake
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:11 PM
Subject: [MMouse]: an opinion on the new album
I think it's ok...maybe a little too much violin and other sh
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Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MMouse]: I have a question
Hey, on i came as a rat, isaac says "Well i don't know but ive been told/
You
never die and you never grow old" has MM used this in an
can someone tell me the zip codes for the seattle area? perhaps starting with
97---. thanks.
Yeah, read this article and listen to her bitch for ten pages about how she
doesn't want to be a "sharecropper" anymore and would rather be a waitress
in the high glamour world of the service industry. Its an epiphany a minute
I tell you! Just because she's famous doesn't give her the right to
In a message dated 6/14/00 12:23:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I really want to go into why the person who wrote that song is a genius,
but
I just don't have that much time.
Mark
please do tell
In a message dated 6/14/00 5:42:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd have to say it's the best ALBUM, album meaning how the songs relate to
each other thematically, as a cohesive statement in music, not just
album=a collection of songs. As a collection of songs i like all the albums
more or
Hello there people from Livorno, Italy
To say that MM aren't very well known here would be the mother of all
the understatements:hell, nobody knows who the band are, and yours truly
was in such a state as well, but I was shaken from my torpor by the
wonderful 3WK internet alternative radio. It' s
you won't need to swallow the whole exercise of cash vs integrity
justification.
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2000/06/15/modest/index.html
Justin
"Public opinion is always right...especially when it's really idiotic."
uhmmm for the life of me i can't figure out what f***ts is
dusty
"this is where Biggie got shot!! this is where Biggie got shot!!"
Subject:
[MMouse]: ab
Date:
Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:50:03 EDT
From:
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To:
[EMAIL PROTEC
In a message dated 6/15/00 1:14:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
you're right about gap clothes, they're
really expensive, but they last a long time and consistantly look good so i
don't care.
is anyone else equally disgusted by the gap as they are by a f? do you
know where these
i would love to see the mouse on that vh1 show "storytellers." i think that
would ROCK, dood.
shaYne
there calling poeple homophobic for using the term "fag", but do
you get my point? words dont always mean exactly what they are always meant
to.
~blake
- Original Message -
From: Philip Smoker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:14 AM
Subjec
big and bright?
That's cool you managed to catch what he was saying as well as you did.
I have that song recorded also from SXSW where he played with the other
drummer fellow as Ugly Cassanova. It was a really cool set, but hard to
make out even on the recording. I think he might have used different dates
at
haha, i also thought he said "peg-legged woman aint got no soul". but i
thought that was just too cruel (and funny).
~blake
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: [MMouse]: I have a question
The whole argument about making water available to the throngs of
people who will be attending this show (in the hot hot hot area of
Irvine, CA. in early July) continues. only, now, the admin keeps
deleting the thread, and the questions/concerns that concertgoers
have had about water are all
So I went to buy a modest mouse ticket on my lunch break for Saturday, and
it turns out both of the nights are sold out. Oh well, I bought the new
mouse and the new stereolab instead.
My vote on the new record: Yay
Virgil
.claimwhatyoucandefend.
I *THINK* (but am by no means positive), that in theory, Oak Canyon Ranch (the site of
This Ain't No Picnic, and of non-potable water), is private land, so the owners of the
property and the concert promoter can work together to deny you of any rights that
they choose.
Don't quote me on that,
oh yea! i love the new album
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i'm not going to suffer through an event like that..however, i believe in
your cause and then some so I ranted on there for you...
chris
-Original Message-
From: K a t e M e r c i e r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MMouse
ummm.
yea to the first half.
to the second half I am as of yet neutral.
Karina
"and someone might have already said this, but
sometimes, people that work mall jobs have, very
little, to hold on to."
Um, I work a mall job part-time on top of my full-time
job to supplement my income and to provide me with a
convenient 30% discount on the CD's I buy. Very
little to hold
woah...hold on.
You shop at the Gap. You listen to Modest Mouse. If you head Modest Mouse in the Gap,
you would feel offended and as if "theres no place [for you] to go anymore" without
hearing them?
That just doesn't make any sense.
I shop at the Gap (though usually only when someone else is
YEA(H) !
WHAT'S GOING ON?
oh...am i singing with my andes mint secret agent man person?
i wonder.
norske ho - wondering
teehee ;)
- amy
is anyone else equally disgusted by the gap as they are by a f? do you
know where these clothes are made? do you know that the employers of
these
stores MAKE the employees wear the absolute latest items that they carry
and
they dont even get a good discount on them? do you know that the
You are
only responsible for how they affect you personally.
If you are offended and disgusted by them, you are
certainly entitled to voice that opinion and explain
why you feel that way, if you so desire. However,
telling someone that they are "passively homophobic"
is preposterous and
I wouldn't mind if I could turn on the radio again.
you should listen to all the jamming gold stations now...you know the disco,
the diana ross, the marvin gaye, the jackson five...that's where it's at
i'm sick to death of all these crappy college stations...all they do is
comment on how
k8 says:
"i'm not a big fan of Courtney Love's music, but I
thought this (long) speech by her was brilliant."
Just for the record, her calculations of recording
costs was eerily similar to an article Steve Albini
did for Maximum Rock N Roll some time ago. Check it:
In a message dated Thu, 15 Jun 2000 1:14:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Robbins, Mark"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
baseless opinion. She is in *no* position to make demands, which is
something she obviously has no grasp of. She will constantly be working for
other people if she wants to make
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