Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

1999-12-03 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Just think that back then it was called the MINI-guide... my how baby has grown. :) Kudos! On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > Hi all, > > according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on > 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that hav

mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
Hi, folks You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I thought maybe you could refer me to someone you know. I can tell you mor

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on > 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that have > participated (the list is *long*), as well as many thanks. That's right, a one year anniversary! I want to take a chance and say "thank you"

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Anthony Gardner
We don't seem to have the same problem here in Blighty. I did a search for mod_perl at www.jobserve.com and six jobs posted in the last five days were returned. I'm sure things will improve after this Y2K thang passes over and companies start to look to new technologies. >From: Stas Bekman <

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Gidon Wise
Hello Everybody, I believe it is true. We could have more more mod_perl programmers. I think that the biggest problem/opportunity that mod_perl has in terms of proliferation amongst programmers/users is that Hosts currently do not provide mod_perl on cheap virtual server package. I think a whol

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on >03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that have >participated (the list is *long*), as well as many thanks. LOTS OF THANKS to Stas and to all contributors!!! I still carry the full printed vers

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Robin Berjon
>You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. >Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: mod_perl is definitely going up, and not too slow either. >Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing >(which is good for us :),

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>Now the question is: if this is truth and you feel the same way, how do we >make the world know that there is a great demand for mod_perl programmers >and that people should learn mod_perl and not the stright-forward choice >like VB, ASP or other technology that drives the web? Great sites usin

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Rod Butcher
Does anybody see a niche for a new web-hosting company specializing in mode_perl and other goodies, rather than the generic "package" ? Matt ? That could ease the management problem of "we agree mod_perl is great, but our hoster won't run it". I for one ended up having to host my own website becau

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Robin Berjon
At 12:35 03/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote: >Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being proud of it, >with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly decorate my mod_perl'ed site >(www.jazzvalley.com) with a mod_perl stamp on every page. That's a good idea. We're to rele

LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread raptor
hi, If I put this on Location: bar on the Netscape browser, I get the result of the search as expected (try it). http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5&radius=60&when=30&ongoing=b&category=Everything&submit=Search But If I try to do this via LWP package, I didn't get the

migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
Hi, again Robin and Matt are steadily working on a new face for the site. Meanwhile Baiju Thakkar, the guy behind perlmonth.com and linuxmonth.com, has registered the no-one-understand-how-not-yet-registered modperl.org domain. And he came up with an idea that, it's more natural for mod_perl to b

RE: LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread Eric Cholet
> hi, > > If I put this on Location: bar on the Netscape browser, I get the result > of the search as expected (try it). > >http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5&radius=60&when=30&ongoing=b&category=Everything&submit=Search I don't, I get the search form. Using IE5 on Wi

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>-Message d'origine- >De : Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >There are a few logos on the site, and we can add some more (I don't know >if we would manage to agree on one, though it'd give a stronger sense of >"brand"). Right. This talk is about a commercial success. The /perl.apache.o

Re: LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread Lon Koenig
On 12/3/99, raptor wrote: >hi, > >If I put this on Location: bar on the Netscape browser, I get the result >of the search as expected (try it). >http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5&radius= >60&when=30&ongoing=b&category=Everything&submit=Search > > > >But If I try to do

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. I believe it. > Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing > (which is good for us :), but from the other side it's bad for mod_perl, Speaking

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > I wish people use more one liner answers OK. 73 Ged

Re: LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>> http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5&radius=60&when =30&ongoing=b&category=Everything&submit=Search > >I don't, I get the search form. Using IE5 on Win98. Same. A search form, using IE4 on Win98. Vic.

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Young, Geoffrey S.
I'm not sure about why it behaves this way, but the mod_perl guide forewarns that "Evil things might happen when using PerlFreshRestart" check out http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen_w hen_us which lists the relevant code... maybe it has to do with the or

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Robin" == Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robin> Another thing that could help would be an article on Robin> perl.com. That would reach the Perl community. I'm sure that we Robin> can mail whoever's in charge of it and offer to write an Robin> article, and I see no reason why it'd

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stas> Hi, folks Stas> You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. Stas> Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: Stas> At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people an

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Victor" == Victor Zamouline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Victor> Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being Victor> proud of it, with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly Victor> decorate my mod_perl'ed site (www.jazzvalley.com) with a Victor> mod_perl stamp on ever

LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread Robert Locke
When I went to: http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5&radius=60&when=30&ongoing=b&category=Everything&submit=Search using Netscape, it showed me the search form the first time round. After I actually ran the search, then even going to: http://www.volunteermatch.

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>Maybe what we need is some open enrollment courses I can organize that in France, I am in direct communication with all French computer training companies. Vic.

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> > "Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Stas> Hi, folks > Stas> You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. > Stas> Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: > > Stas> At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_

Re: Happy Birthday mod_perl Guide

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > the Guide was first announced on 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! > Wonder how big it'll be in a year... Stas says we can stop calling it the `mini' guide now... Kind regards, Ged.

Re: Can't load /..../Fcntl.so

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Bruce A. Johnson wrote: > I just rebuilt my Apache server (1.3.6) last week. I enabled the > cern_meta module, the usertrack module, and the expires module, > and I upgraded mod_perl from 1.19 to 1.21. I did a clean build > from the distribution tar-balls. Did yo

Re: mod_perl SourceGarden is looking for a new home

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> Talk to SourceForge which is sponsored by VA Linux Systems. > > http://www.sourceforge.com/ > > I don't think they currently support mod_perl, but I bet they can be > convinced if you ask nice. Funny, the sourcegarden is a very similar service to sourceforge, but we want it our way and more h

Re: Can't load /..../Fcntl.so

1999-12-03 Thread Bruce Johnson
Cliff Rayman wrote: > > Are all modules, apache and perl built with the same compiler? Yes, GCC -- no changes there. -- Bruce A. JohnsonPictureVision, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer 250-A Exchange Pl. (703)925-4075 Herndon, VA 20170 http://info.photonet.c

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Scott Chapman
I am new to Mod_Perl. I don't know what all it's good for. My question is, what do they mean by "mod_perl experience". I can compile Apache with mod_perl and make emb_perl work correctly but I highly doubt that is all they are after. Being new to this, I'd like some perspective from those

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Scott" == Scott Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Scott> I am new to Mod_Perl. I don't know what all it's good for. My Scott> question is, what do they mean by "mod_perl experience". I can Scott> compile Apache with mod_perl and make emb_perl work correctly Scott> but I highly doubt t

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Tom Law
Stas, Keep working on your tutorial book for mod_perl. I hope that you guys are writing it in a similar style to the "Learning Perl" book. the Learning Perl book got me up and running on Perl rather quickly. Then when I referenced the "Programming Perl" book for specific information I understood

RE: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Kreimendahl, Chad J
I can describe what I mean when I say "mod_perl experience". I think that to most it means this as well. mod_perl experience is just a nifty word to aid in the finding of someone who has the style of perl which fits the requirements of mod_perl. The ability to keep everything within scope; abil

Re: problem with JOINs using DBIx::Recordset under apache

1999-12-03 Thread Dhanabal Ekambaram
Hi, Gerald Richter wrote: > I guess your mod_perl is compiled as dynamic module (with > USE_DSO) and _not_ linked staticly into Apache? Actually, we are using modperl statically compiled with apache. I do not know whether the following will help in identifying the problem: We are running Oracl

mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Eric Cholet
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > For some people, I presume dealing only with content handlers could be > considered as "mod_perl experience". But mod_perl is so much more > than the content phase. I would laugh at someone that said they "knew > mod_perl", but couldn't tell me most of what's in Stas'

httpd size...

1999-12-03 Thread Robert Locke
Hi, I was wondering if anyone had a good way to measure the real memory usage of "httpd" and her children. Under Linux, summing up 'ps -auxw | grep httpd' gives me a huge number that does not reflect shared memory. How can I found out the real memory usage? Thanks!!! Rob

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Ian Kallen
We've never had any candidates come in with any level of depth with mod_perl but I'd vet their competency with it by asking them to explain the closure problem with variables my'd under Apache::Registry. Anyone cognizant of those issues should presumably know how to sanely use Registry scripts b

Re: LWP vs Netscape

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robert Locke wrote: > To make a long story short, my advice would be to use POST and not > GET. I think that might work. Then you get something in access_log too. 73 Ged.

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote: > maybe it has to do with the order in which stuff is held in %INC - that is, > Apache::DBI needs to be loaded before DBI, but PerlFreshRestart may require > them in the improper order because of the hash order? Is there a `hash order'? Ha

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Bodnar
On 03-Dec-99 Robin Berjon wrote: > I think the problem touches computer people as a whole. It is getting hard > or impossible to find contractors that aren't booked for the next six > months in some areas of knowledge. Granted it must be easier to find a Java > programmer though. Unfortunately, a

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Ian" == Ian Kallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> We've never had any candidates come in with any level of depth with Ian> mod_perl but I'd vet their competency with it by asking them to explain Ian> the closure problem with variables my'd under Apache::Registry. Anyone Ian> cognizant o

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Bodnar
On 03-Dec-99 Robin Berjon wrote: > At 12:35 03/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote: >>Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being proud of it, >>with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly decorate my mod_perl'ed site >>(www.jazzvalley.com) with a mod_perl stamp on every p

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Young, Geoffrey S.
that's what I meant :) Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on too... here's the code from the guide: while (my($k,$v) = each %INC) { delete $INC{$k}; require $k; } --Geoff

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Baker
Stas Bekman wrote: > > Hi, folks > > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. > Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: > > At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I > thought maybe you could refer me to so

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Richard Dice
Jeffrey: > There can be no such thing as a shortage of mod_perl programmers. When > someone says that they can't find mod_perl people, what they really mean > is that they can't find mod_perl people for the price they are willing > to pay. Well said! The term for this is "market clearing price

RE: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread David Harris
Jason Bodnar wrote: > Unfortunately, another big part of the problem is that many so-called 'forward > thinking' companies aren't willing to hire tele-commuters, even for contract > positions. I'm interested in doing some moonlight consultant work but there > isn't alot of mod_perl activity going

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Tim Bunce
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 12:00:38PM -0500, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote: > that's what I meant :) > > Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI > be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on > too... > > here's the code from the guide: > >

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
To my opinion, out of the responses to a definition of a "mod_perl experience", two are worth emphasizing: 1. Perl programming style with mod_perl techniques in mind 2. Abstraction from standard CGI constraints and high stakes on mod_perl's features unavailable in vanilla CGI There should be a d

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Richard Dice
> 1. Perl programming style with mod_perl techniques in mind > 2. Abstraction from standard CGI constraints and high stakes on > mod_perl's features unavailable in vanilla CGI What about "bipolar" Perl-web programming tactics, like Embperl? It can be as either CGI or mod_perl, and yet it is not A

Re: httpd size...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> I was wondering if anyone had a good way to measure the real memory > usage of "httpd" and her children. > > Under Linux, summing up 'ps -auxw | grep httpd' gives me a huge number > that does not reflect shared memory. How can I found out the real > memory usage? GTop.pm is your friend: See h

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Tim" == Tim Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tim> I presumed (I've not looked) that it would reload the new interpreter Tim> in the same way that the original one was and thus would reload modules Tim> in the same order. You can *presume* that, but I don't recall anywhere in the Perl int

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Jauder Ho
Nice argument but there's a flaw in it :) Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a "skilled unix admin"? In fact (this is off topic but I'm desperate), if there is someone in the Seattle area that's looking, there is an immediate opening... --Jauder On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Richard Dice wrote:

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Ian Kallen
Are you disparaging expertise in Crapomatic-9000 programming? Perish the... Today, Jeffrey Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> frothed and gesticulated about Re:...: > Most people are lazy. Since it is easier to get started with > VB/ASP/Crapomatic-9000, most people are going to start there. The -Ian (w

JOBS: Post your mod_perl jobs on PerlMonth

1999-12-03 Thread Baiju Thakkar
PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the features that will soon be available is when someone is viewing Stas's mod_perl column, or any other mod_perl related article, there will be a link to mod_perl related

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > >That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl? > The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though, Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares? > so it might be possible if anyone's got some good suggesti

Re: JOBS: Post your mod_perl jobs on PerlMonth

1999-12-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Baiju" == Baiju Thakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Baiju> PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings Baiju> at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the Baiju> features that will soon be available is when someone is viewing Baiju> Stas's mod_perl

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Ken Y. Clark
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jeffrey Baker wrote: > Most people are lazy. Since it is easier to get started with > VB/ASP/Crapomatic-9000, most people are going to start there. The > people with real initiative and drive will always find their way over to > mod_perl or other advanced solutions. The onl

return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Simms
I am having a _really_ strange problem with return() under mod_perl. It seems that any time I attempt to do a return REDIRECT after I have accessed any passed parameters, the redirect will fail. However, if I do the redirect without accessing any passed parameters (either via POST or GET), t

Re: return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread darren chamberlain
I have had similar problems, and the solution seems to be (not sure why) to print the redirect the same way you would using CGI.pm and $r->send_http_header and then return OK, as in: use CGI; use Apache; use Apache::Constants 'OK'; sub handler { my $r = shift; my $q = CGI->new(); my

Re: return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Simms
>Have you tried to request this URI from telnet and see what Apache >actually sends to the browser? > >Andrei Thank you for your reply. You will note that in my original post, I did address this issue at the end of the letter: JS:I have even tried telneting into port 80 on the server and doing

Re: return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Simms
After you suggested it, I did, and unfortunately with the same results. I am now off to try another suggestion... Thanks, though. Jason Simms >just a guess: Have you tried it without assigning a content_type to >your >repsponse (not necessary for a REDIRECT)? > >Tobias _

Re: return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread Ken Y. Clark
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jason Simms wrote: > I am having a _really_ strange problem with return() under mod_perl. It > seems that any time I attempt to do a return REDIRECT after I have accessed > any passed parameters, the redirect will fail. However, if I do the > redirect without accessing an

Re: return() and REDIRECT Disasters Within mod_perl: Please Help

1999-12-03 Thread Eric L. Brine
> But, the strange part is, when I use the following code, the browser > spins and spins and finally just dies when it reaches the return(): > > sub handler { > my $r = shift; > my %args = $r->content; content() reads the data sent by the client. When it's called a second time

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> >Now the question is: if this is truth and you feel the same way, how do we > >make the world know that there is a great demand for mod_perl programmers > >and that people should learn mod_perl and not the stright-forward choice > >like VB, ASP or other technology that drives the web? > > > Gr

RE: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Young, Geoffrey S.
I did a *bit* of digging into the underlying code, but couldn't really figure it out entirely... the changes list Doug as being the author of the Evil PerlFreshRestart section of the guide, so perhaps he (or someone else in the know) could go into more detail? --Geoff > -Original Message---

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> Does anybody see a niche for a new web-hosting company specializing in > mode_perl and other goodies, rather than the generic "package" ? Matt ? > That could ease the management problem of "we agree mod_perl is great, > but our hoster won't run it". > I for one ended up having to host my own web

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> >There are a few logos on the site, and we can add some more (I don't know > >if we would manage to agree on one, though it'd give a stronger sense of > >"brand"). > > Right. This talk is about a commercial success. The > /perl.apache.org/logos/mod_perl.gif logo represents a bridge between two

RE: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Baiju Thakkar
> > Well, someone mentioned an eagle. How about the eagle image for an > alternative mod_perl logo? I was thinking about hedgehog as one that > protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl... > Well mod_perl as a project has gotten the permission to use the camel right ? I suggest we keep

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
On 3 Dec 1999, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Scott" == Scott Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Scott> I am new to Mod_Perl. I don't know what all it's good for. My > Scott> question is, what do they mean by "mod_perl experience". I can > Scott> compile Apache with mod_perl and make

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Can you wonder why a large corporation would rather go with ASP for most web apps as long as it gets the job done and it's pain threshhold is not too high. Same with reasons for going with NT as a File Server or WEb Server. Sure it sucks for sophisicated stuff ,but 90% of places don't really need

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-03 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Bunce) wrote: >On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 12:00:38PM -0500, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote: >> that's what I meant :) >> >> Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI >> be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on >> too.

mod_perl "sourcegarden" has found a new garden

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
Hi, Thank you so much for your overwhelming response! I've received about 30 offers! I know that I didn't respond to everybody yet, I'll do it soon. So the chosen new home is called HBE (http://hbe.ca) and I'm glad that Richard Dice and Philippe Chiasson, the two folks you all know, are in a cha

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Stas Bekman
> Stas Bekman wrote: > > > > Hi, folks > > > > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. > > Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: > > > > At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I > > thought maybe you co

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Richard Dice
> Can you wonder why a large corporation would rather go with ASP for most > web apps as long as it gets the job done and it's pain threshhold is not > too high. Same with reasons for going with NT as a File Server or WEb > Server. Sure it sucks for sophisicated stuff ,but 90% of places don't > re

Re: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-03 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > suggested the following layout (I've added a bit): > > www.modperl.org > jobs.modperl.org > dist.modperl.org > docs.modperl.org > search.modperl.org > books.modperl.org > conference.modperl.org (I'll talk about this one next time) > > vs. a basic domain

RE: migrating perl.apache.org to *.modperl.org

1999-12-03 Thread Baiju Thakkar
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > suggested the following layout (I've added a bit): > > > > www.modperl.org > > jobs.modperl.org > > dist.modperl.org > > docs.modperl.org > > search.modperl.org > > books.modperl.org > > conference.modperl.org (I'll talk about this one next time) >

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread W. John Burns
Baiju Thakkar wrote: > > > > Well, someone mentioned an eagle. How about the eagle image for an > > alternative mod_perl logo? I was thinking about hedgehog as one that > > protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl... > > > > Well mod_perl as a project has gotten the permission to > use th

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Gunther Birznieks
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > > Now unfortunately a lot of people don't share our views on money. They > > want to maximize the monetary value of their mod_perl knowledge, which > > is all well and good as far as I care. The problem for these folks is > > that the more widesprea

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Jason Bodnar
On 03-Dec-99 Gunther Birznieks wrote: > I think mod_perl is sufficiently hard that even as more people learn how > to do the simple stuff, mod_perl will still be 'difficult' enough. I don't > think it is like Java or Perl where the stratification is there in the > language knowledge. Unless mod_p

Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste >of time, unfortunately... The motto of this list regarding new things is >"think it, implement it and give it"... This is somewhat too straightforward, Stas. Look - I only suggested there should be another name and anoth

Embperl configuration directives ignored

1999-12-03 Thread Christian Gilmore
I'm not seeing the proper behavior from either EMBPERL_LOG or EMBPERL_DEBUG. Here's the configuration in httpd.conf: Perlrequire /www/www/lib/modperl-startup.pl PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_OPTIONS 2178 PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_LOG /tmp/embperl_testlog PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_DEBUG

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Jim Winstead
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates." Jim On Dec 04, Victor Zamouline wrote: > >Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste > >of time, unfortunately... The motto of this

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the >topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates." So it is either a question of getting O'Reilly's authorization, or abandonning the eagle idea. Stats proposed a hedgehog. John Burns proposed a red brick base of

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Victor Zamouline
>"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the >topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates." The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we see a camel on www.perl.com, right? Vic.

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Bryan Hart
>>"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the >>topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates." > > >The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we >see a camel on www.perl.com, right? > >Vic. > www.perl.com is O'Reilly's site.

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-03 Thread Jim Winstead
On Dec 04, Victor Zamouline wrote: > >"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the > >topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates." > > The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we > see a camel on www.perl.com, right? This

image problem..

1999-12-03 Thread Jearanai Vongsaard
I got a strange problem: I succeed install and run embperl on my machine which everything works fine but I could not access any image file in my /var/www/htdocs/embperl_test or its sub-directories. I had three gif files there (blank.gif, minus.gif, plus.gif), but they could not be shown in a brow

Re: image problem..

1999-12-03 Thread Bill Desjardins
What does the error log say? === Bill Desjardinshttp://www.carracing.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel: 305.205.8644 FREE Homepages for Racers and Race Tracks!! On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jearanai Vongsaard wrote: > I got a strange problem: I succeed install

RE: problem with JOINs using DBIx::Recordset under apache

1999-12-03 Thread Gerald Richter
Hi, > > > I do not know whether the following will help in identifying > the problem: > We are running Oracle's 'analyze' on all our tables once every > day. Oracle support person us told that there is some problem > with the cost-based optimization that is done by Oracle (after > 'analyze'), whic

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Michael Dearman
"G.W. Haywood" wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > > > >That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl? > > The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though, > > Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares? > > > so it might be

mod_perl on Solaris 7

1999-12-03 Thread Tom Mornini
What are current opinions of Apache/mod_perl on Solaris 7? A company that I am consulting for has different opinions on this subject than I have. I have had no trouble making and operating various front-end/back-end combinations with no difficulty at all. They have had trouble making and operat

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Randy Harmon
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 11:38:35PM -0700, Michael Dearman wrote: > > > "G.W. Haywood" wrote: > > How about ``Eagle''? > Exactly what I was just thinking. > Apache Stronghold > Apache Eagle Um, isn't that animal taken by O'Rielly? How about an oyster? Perhaps not as american-patriotic but jus

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Rod Butcher
Um... how about a mythical beast with the head of an eagle and the body of a camel ? Rod Baiju Thakkar wrote: > > > > > Well, someone mentioned an eagle. How about the eagle image for an > > alternative mod_perl logo? I was thinking about hedgehog as one that > > protected from everything, exac

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Robin Berjon
At 14:55 03/12/1999 +, G.W. Haywood wrote: >On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote: > >> >That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl? >> The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though, > >Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares? Oh you'

Re: JOBS: Post your mod_perl jobs on PerlMonth

1999-12-03 Thread Robin Berjon
At 10:11 03/12/1999 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Baiju" == Baiju Thakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Baiju> PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings >Baiju> at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the >Baiju> features that will soon be ava

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-03 Thread Michael Dearman
Randy Harmon wrote: > Um, isn't that animal taken by O'Rielly? The O'Reilly Eagle is a Tawny Eagle. Thar be golden, spotted, bald, imperial, harpy ... well, plenty to go around. Still, it'd be nice to be able to use The Eagle. Logo promotes the book. To honor the first tome of mod_perl. Book pr