ries
or client's sites.
Be careful when you use cookies. Make sure it's your LAST choice.
Mangled URLs and hidden fields are other straightforward alternatives.
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way to authenticate users.
Yes, and I agree with you. For *short term* auth, cookies are OK.
But I've seen too many apps out there that use cookies for unique ID
for long term. Wrong. Broken. Busted. Basic-auth would be way
better, although still not ideal.
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ed in *any* URL handed to the user, but
only those things that generate HTML and wish to maintain the session
would notice and re-include $session = $r-header(Session) in their
strings.
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that hard.
[*] (Not really, but in my dreams... :)
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? I tried blocking them, and I got back some users
that wondered why I was blocking them.
Is it a new version of IE that permits heavy rapid download?
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) cookies
2) mangled URLs
3) hidden fields in forms
If "static HTML" can't do #2 or #3, you are stuck with #1.
No amount of module help can work. :)
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ottler on my website that
prevents anyone from sucking down more than 3k/sec sustained over 90
seconds from any specific IP.
It triggered five times overnight. But my ISP neighbors are now
happy.
I should clean up Stonehenge::Throttle and submit it. Notice, no file
locking! That was an
"Trei" == Trei B [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Trei On 30 Oct 1999, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
You have three main choices for maintaining a "session":
1) cookies
2) mangled URLs
3) hidden fields in forms
If "static HTML" can't do #2 or #3, you are stuck w
K they're plain perl implementations rather than
John stubs for faster C versions.
But the "faster C" implementations are in the Apache code, not
in the mod_perl code. :)
So you can't use Apache::Util unless you are running Apache.
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Matt sensible arguments g (sorry Randal!).
Heh.
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yet, but write me if you fit the geography and availability and I'll
see if I can push you in.
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Joshua What Matt brought up is right.
Eewww. Whenever I read "matt" and "w(right)" in the same sentence,
all sorts of alarms go off. Sorry.
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dified" from a CGI script? The absence of such a field has
traditionally been treated as "last-modified: now".
So why bother?
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;throttle access: $blockfile is blocking");
$r-header_out("Retry-After", $WINDOW);
return 503; # Service Unavailable
} else {
## $log-notice("throttle access: $blockfile is old, ignoring"); # DEBUG
return DEC
n't really pay attention to a redirect,
in any way other than "this page wasn't ready". In fact, that
redirect probably would put the scope of interest outside the spiders
suck zone.
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Erich [$ if( ! defined %fdat ) $]
Bad. Never ever test for the defined'ness of an aggregate.
Erich Has this been changed or is this a bug?
It was a bug in your code that happened to not be noticed.
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. :)
defined @bar and defined %bletch are almost never correct, and any
seasoned Perl hacker knows to watch for those as a red flag.
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"Barry" == Barry Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Barry On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 07:31:36AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
I also added a DBILogger that logs CPU times, so I can see which pages
on my system are burning the most CPU, and even tell which hosts suck
down th
re any way for me to retrieve the fragment info short
brian of parsing $r-the_request?
The server never sees the "fragment", and rightfully so.
That's for the client only, to scroll down to by looking for a name=perl
once the page has been downloaded. The server never knows that hap
generated stuff. It just shouldn't ever show up on a *request*.
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y anything, finish the thought, or tell them where to read
more.
So, Tim, what *are* the differences, and when should we should we
choose Apache::DBI vs DBI-connect_cached, and why?
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d also dig in to the source
- does mod_proxy even *set* bytes?
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be turned down. Now the
Robin hard part is the article itself... Volunteers ?
The easy part about perl.com is to remember that perl.org is easier. :)
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for the press" and "for IT managers"
and "support", people will start noticing it, and start treating it as
*real*.
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nsulting, Unix, Unix consulting
X-Mod-Perl-Rules: mod_perl rules! Get it at http://perl.apache.org/
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I know
mod_perl" but have never typed "$r-...", I'm gonna be suspicious.
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nterpreter where *order* of require's is recorded.
I've always thought the "must load Apache::DBI before DBI" thing was a
bit weird anyway. Can't you just make it a flag that DBI looks at
that Apache::DBI sets?
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erl column, or any other mod_perl related article,
Baiju there will be a link to mod_perl related job. If you have any
Baiju questions you can mail me directly. Thank you for listening.
And there's the jobs.perl.org area as well.
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m previous hits,
and therefore counting up hire, or something. I dunno. As soon as you have
"use strict"-able code that exhibits the same behavior, let us know.
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n ID even by mod_cgi scripts
4) new sessions are started by a simple external redirect
5) one simplePerlTransHandler could provide the master session-start for any URL
downside: you must have access to a UDP port 53 somewhere and DNS delegation
I'll write up more after I've done some testing.
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the problem?
Grr. Not really. I just moved everything to LogHandlers instead. I
just no longer trust cleanup_handlers, because my tests were
consistent with "only one cleanup permitted".
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ing connection early
liConfigurable Agent Identity allows Teleport Pro to impersonate
popular browsers; gets data from even the stingiest servers
Sounds to me like they are precisely at odds with anyone doing the
kind of blocking that I want to do.
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't respect
/robots.txt. Once they fix that, I might let it loose.
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m not sure about the other one though. Ahh,
it looks like I'm already taking advantage of that. :)
Weird. I learned something I already knew. :)
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it really
is in.
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Valdet I need a PerlScript for transforming the XML to HTML.
XML does not "transform" to HTML.
What are you really asking for?
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dy.
That's so... uh... perl4-ish.
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uot;id=$id");
By the time the apache-request object has been created, args are
handled in a separate slot.
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return OK from your own pushed AccessHandler,
which should prevent the core modules from doing an .htaccess lookup
based on $r-filename. Something like:
$r-push_handlers( PerlAccessHandler = sub { return OK } );
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s was what apache was designed for (multiple phases)
Sean b) allows other handlers to kick in before you build the response
Sean (such as mod_access)
Absolutely.
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"Randal" == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Randal Or a variation of that, that I like... set up a TransHandler like this:
Randal sub handler { # PerlTransHandler
Randal return DECLINED unless $r-uri eq "/";
Randal $r-set_handler("perl-sc
ing! barbie"Writing is hard!"/barbie
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k you need to. I think only the Trans handlers need to
worry about docroot. Of course, I'm possibly wrong. :)
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ewsgroup would cause the *dilution* of expert eyeball time on a given
issue, and would therefore be *detrimental* to the mod_perl community,
because some experts would choose to read only the mailing list, and
others would choose to read only the newsgroup.
No. Bad idea at this point.
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"John" == John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John OTOH, it's a lot easier to track and respond to particular
John issues/problems in a threaded setting like Usenet.
Hmm. Get a threaded mailreader. It certainly changed my mail
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$id = $1;
$temp = $2;
$name = $3;
... use variables ...
}
But this is probably preferred:
if (($id, $temp, $name) = /(\d+):([0-9,]*):(.*)/) {
... use variables ...
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own a dark damp tunnel?
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"Bill" == Bill Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz)
The docs hint that I can use whatever I would put after ErrorDocument
as the arg to custom_response, but also suggest that I can put "a
module" there. Does that mean it's the sa
permit me to just hook on this coderef when
this other thing happens.
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? "bEnabled/b" : "iDisabled/i"),
"/td/tr\n" } mod_perl::hooks()),
"/table";
map is your friend. Of course, this would have been even simpler with
CGI.pm HTML generators. :)
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ay ref, this is easy:
return ["table", (map ...), "/table"];
:-)
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"Angel" == Angel R Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angel how about avoiding the me toos...
Yeah, and the people that post "upside down", with the answer
*before* the question!
Definitely. Let's avoid those.
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he conferences to Grand Cayman, then, since I
Vivek just spent a week familiarizing myself with it ;-) And the weather
Vivek there is excellent...
Well, then I won't be able to go, since I'm still on probation, and
can't get out of the US. sigh
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eone who wrangles Perl all day
every day... :)
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ave solved the problem.
Except that this requires HTTP/1.1. Anyone that doesn't send the
"host:" header goes into a permanent redirect loop. So the "problems"
you're not seeing are probably from the people out there that can't
get to your site to report the problems. :)
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Drew just be done with this stupid cookie problem! You just made my night better
Drew (and my morning too)!
But please see my followup before you implement it.
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t;map in a void context". :) Or
maybe there's some other "Randal Schwartz" you copied from. "Wasn't me!"
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AltaVista or Infoseek?
Do you really want that many people to not find out about your site?
It's not about browsers, sir. It's about the web-dexers. If you
aren't writing for that market, you are missing a HUGE set of possible
visitors.
Never piss off a spider. :)
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er if it came *after* or *before*, unless you think there's
only one timeline relevant.
There are many timelines. There are "browsers" being written today
that don't support "host:". See my other comment about "web-dexers".
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t, because it gets the URI not from $r-uri but from the
second word of splitting $r-the_request on whitespace. You might
consider that change. (I figured this out by looking at the C
code for the real log code. :)
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ybe I should just get the docs done and get'em out
there. I could even put them in the CPAN then. :)
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"Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Matt On 21 Apr 2000, (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
Matt and I'd be
Matt interested in seeing Stonehenge::Reload, but I don't fancy
Matt searching the archives of this list (which you posted it to,
Matt IIRC), and a central repository o
"Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Matt On 21 Apr 2000, (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
Just in case you missed it... (but notice, no instructions!):
package Stonehenge::Reload;
Matt Thanks!
Matt When perl is your day job, instructions just get in the way (I gues
we'd hope.
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this. Bring the MIME type to mean both the "real" mime type as well
as a PerlHandler if needed. I'm sure it's a 15 line
FixupHandler... just haven't had time to tear down part of my site to
test. :)
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ne
Jeffrey explain the purpose of this behavior, or is it a misfeature? In my case,
Jeffrey this is not the desired behavior.
You can always call $r-print(\\$foo); :)
As in, $r-print(map { \$_ } @list) will work as your print, always.
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I'll be sure to
pass it on to him.
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rs for EPP, not OOP. :) For sample chapters
of OOP, try somewhere south of www.manning.com, I believe.
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to here that looks text/plain or text/html
really gets mapped to Registry.
Thoughts? Am I trying to be too generic? I like useful frameworks. :)
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not
always recognizing that the first parameter is "CGI" when called
as CGI-cookie(). In fact, I had a problem the other day with that
too. Try changing CGI-cookie() (not documented as working, I see
only instance calls, not class calls in "perldoc CGI") with CGI::cookie().
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t know how.
Nahh. Use basic core functionality, in your top-level conf file:
LocationMatch "^/idTrans="
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler My::Handler
/LocationMatch
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olumn. :) And it's too bad that we have people mixing the terms up,
because cargo-cult meme virus items spread fast in the Perl extended
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mod_imap.c
mod_actions.c
mod_speling.c
mod_userdir.c
mod_alias.c
mod_rewrite.c
mod_access.c
mod_auth.c
mod_auth_anon.c
mod_digest.c
mod_proxy.c
mod_headers.c
mod_unique_id.c
mod_setenvif.c
mod_perl.c
suexec: disabled; invalid
"Perrin" == Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perrin "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
I'm getting this on every startup:
Constant subroutine XHTML_DTD redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/constant.pm line
175.
what's this about?
Perrin That would be t
the one that Damian would have taken had he seen it six
months earlier, so he says. :)
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n.
Decent object model... just an overly verbose syntax and that horrific
"you must indent your code the way Guido wanted or Guido will make a
visit to your house" indenting style.
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swer could have given privately, but I want the modperl archives
to have the answer as well.]
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t checking the request "accept:" for
/gzip/ be enough? Then the browser can tell you whether it works or
not, and you can just have an exceptions list for those that lie.
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the wheel? :)
Bernhard Also the current stable (1.06) can do this.
And Mason was doing this from the beginning. :)
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of concept,
aborted when I started using HTML::Mason in a serious way.
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then again, 5.6 threads are semi-fragile anyway. :)
And wasn't some part of 5.6 broken with respect to HTML::Mason?
(Which of course concerns me greatly. :)
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Stonehenge. Free drinks,
dancing, pool, until they kick us out!
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RRED title
match ...
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY
BE THERE!
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you for helping make it
a good event! For those of you that missed it, you'll be jealous when
you start hearing your friends talk about it!
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the same as what people had bought for me over the years, so I think
I'm now even. :)
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s to repay Randall when/if he stops the no-drink thing :-)
No, please no. I threw the party so that my friends could have a good
time. I'm not owed a thing. Please no. It was entirely my pleasure.
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"Jacob" == Jacob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jacob A HREF="/somehandler?email=#EMAIL URLESC"
That should actually be both URL escaped *and* HTML escaped if it
also contains 's, like the form fields.
You probably knew that, but in case anyone else is watching.
p to your server (or whichever server comes along).
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s: you wrote a templating
system!" web memorial. :)
One brief serious note: I think the fact that there are SO MANY is a
tribute to just how easy it is to process text in Perl. I don't think
there are 47 templating system for Java. :)
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; web memorial.
Wow, if making suggestions here gets that kind of immediate results,
let me also suggest I need a girlfriend who is travel-compatible and
email friendly. Maybe one will show up. :)
Or do you get only one wish per quarter? :)
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that makes tables easier?
Why don't you write it as XML, then use Template::Toolkit and the DOM
interface to generate what you want.
/me shows hint of bias
:-)
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(finally)
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perl.apache.org/");
}
return DECLINED;
}
1;
:-)
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"Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ask On 8 Aug 2000, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
$VERSION = (qw$Revision: 1.6 $ )[-1];
Ask in 4 revisions you would have regretted that if you actually used
Ask the $VERSION for anything, no?
Then it's time for version 2! :)
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l Perl.
For an odd definition of "works". As in, ***HIGHLY DISCOURAGED***.
See http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/varvarname.html, et. seq.
It's proabably a Very Good Thing that ASP enables "use strict" for
you, to keep you from going down the Wrong Path.
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r-uri does not match /\/$/,
then I return DECLINED. Which mod_dir will then send the redirect
for.
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is NOT the same as mod_perl, even though too
many people think so :), and that was the original point. I'm
not sure the new code fixes it. I think the problem is intractable,
or equivalent to the Travelling Salesman and the Farmer's Daughter
problem or something like that. :)
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