- Original Message -
From: Steven F. Poole
To: Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Provenance...
Actually, I don't own a SON OF DRACULA, just using that as an
illustrationin my case its another c
can someone who is knowledgeable on the subject explain how to identify a
real from a fake? i see collections for sale all the time but hesitate to
buy because i do not know what to look for. repos are everywhere which
makes it easy to get burned. please help and many thanks.
what to look for?
Steven,
Yes. But even if the seller/auction house did reveal the consigner or
name-provenance of the item you purchased, for practical purposes your
only recourse if you are unhappy with the item is to return it to the
seller/auction house you bought it from and get your money back from
them.
James-
Its not that I would want to go to the consignor to ask for money
back.what I really would like to know on a questionable item is the "chain"
that it came from. If one of the "alleged masterminds" of the Universal
Horror Scandal was the consignor, I would think that is cause for
heres a basic PRIMER in repos to start.. a opinion only Not a end all
answer...
1.) most posters repoed were large desired titles or hits or extremely
cult titles
2.) most reproduced titles in one sheet were under 27 x 41 however a
few were 27 x41 but most are like
26 x 39 or 27 x 40 bec
Steven
You have asked this in kind of a confusing way, but I think I am getting
your point.
1) Even though they won't implicitly admit it (for unfathomable reasons) it
is clear that several leading auctions and dealers sold these fakes
(presumedly unknowing) as originals, and at least one indirec
Greetings from France,
Would you like to buy a Genuine poster from one of the greatest Movie
Masterpieces ? Not a fake Universal Repro.
Then I've got what you need : the Original French 2 panel (63x94in) of "KING
KONG".
Poster is folded, unrestored in near mint condition, it has never been
Nice pic.
Thanks much for the opportunity to view.
ad
--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Dominique Besson wrote:
From: Dominique Besson
Subject: [MOPO] KING KONG original French 2-panel, not a fake Universal repro
.
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:04 AM
Gr
I can't see a LINENBACKED Creature onesheet sell for $18,000 in the
near future, actually I sold mine (in VF condition) for about $10,000
earlier this year.
However, it's already obvious that people are willing to pay a
considerable premium for UNBACKED posters in excellent condition.
Nea
Hello,
I have posted over 200 Yugoslavian movie posters on eBay auctions. Ending of
auctions is within next 24 hours. Please feel free to visit auctions on URL:
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Hi, Mopoers:
I've just added more great original vintage movie posters to Posteropolis!
Featured this month are Horror, Science Fiction and Cult movie posters and
lobby cards.
Some of the titles:
a.. 1984 os NM
b.. 20 Million Miles to Earth os VF+
c.. The Bonnie Parker Story os VF-NM
d.
I know this board is made up primarily of members below the 49th parallel, but
I just wanted to take this opportunity to wish my fellow Canucks a Happy
Thanksgiving!
Dave
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Yes, a Happy Thanksgiving from the Down Under part of the Commonwealth.
We used to all be on the pink bits of the atlas once!
Phil
- Original Message -
From: Dave Rosen
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:54 AM
Subject: [MOPO] OT: Happy Thanksgi
And those of us from Down Here wish the same to those Up There!! Joe B in NOLA
--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Dave Rosen wrote:
From: Dave Rosen
Subject: [MOPO] OT: Happy Thanksgiving, Canadians!
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:54 AM
I know this board is made u
okkk, Happy thanksgiving Canada! boy that was hard...:)
I bet Montreal is beautiful this time of year
Dave Rosen wrote:
I know this board is made up primarily of members below the 49th
parallel, but I just wanted to take this opportunity to wish my fellow
Canucks a Happy Thanksgivin
Hi Grey,
Thanks for the response.
My concern was whether there may have been an earlier opportunity for
collectors to have been warned about CFTBL fakes.
Glad to hear that in this instance, Heritage were not in a position to
make an early warning.
I do still think though, that Heritage (an
Bruce and all-
When its all said and done, I guess the bottom line of the whole auction
format does not allow for ME the buyer to know who YOU the consignor are
(unless explicitely stated in the auction description who the consignor is).
Here was my scenaro in a nutshell:I made a pur
Frankly I don't think provenance is much of a concern, I think the only
thing that truly matters is if it is genuine or notI couldn't tell
you where I got 95 percent of my posters...and that's including my long
sought-after holy grail - all I know it came from some guy in
CaliforniaI have b
steven _ your posts are interesteing however... hers the important thing
to understand...
the entire Movie poster buiness is based on a simple fact... It was
never cleared in past to be sold, leased or given away as indicated on
bottom of most posters.. so in effect its all stolen material
jeffery and Folks- thats because the entire Movie poster world is based
on illegal
obtaining of poster that simple...
heck even the gig I had hanging posters was Illegal...
I worked for a company ... and I did Detroit
However if I got busted and asked who I worked for I was told to say I
di
two or three dealers could argue as to the MINTY whites origin unless
there was Bonifide evidence as to where they wer printed..
I think now though, the minty whites have been accepted as fakes.
And what the main source is or was.
Though that didn't prevent people on here saying that source wa
The minty whites have never been proven because there is no proof that
people are even talking about the same posters in question... Ive heard
titles... and there could have been reporoductions of the same titles
that could alos have been just good clean copies.. th e concept of being
MINTy whit
Hello all,
I have a really excellent scrapbook from the early 30's and I need some help.
Whoever owned this before me decided to adhere the ads and premier books with
some glue that I am having trouble removing. I have tried heat and steam here
without much success. I am looking for someon
It's been quite awhile since the minty white inserts discussion came
rearing its ugly head.
I always said...why make a fake insert, why make a size that the general
public really doesn't know much about? I mean right away they deem it's
fake since they are unaware of anything but a one sheet beca
I wouldn't have thought the rationale was you get to print two for the
price of one.
And as far as the public not knowing what inserts are, and not buying
them, enough of them did buy them.
(Whether or not you believe them fake.)
Star Wars 1 sheets may well be a better proposition, that's prob
Hi, Everyone,
I have about 20 Auctions CLOSING WITHIN 3 TO 4 HOURS, including:
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INDISCREET (Cary Grant, Ingrid BERGMAN, 1958) Orig US 1-SHEET ONLY $14.99!
Zeev
I had information that I dug up on Pulp Fiction posters, and I tried
to get to the root of the Star Wars "hairy belt" posters, but I never
had any information on the minty whites.
Dave Lieberman had a plausable tale for the hairy belts and Bruce as
well as LAMP did something on the mint
There are 448 lots in this week's Heritage Internet Auction. Once again, we are
featuring a great selection of original movie posters, lobby cards and stills.
The auction closes Sunday, October 18th at 10pm CT.
http://movieposters.ha.com/?ic=task-movieposters
To view all 448 items, please click
Freeman..
forgers and bootleggers don't always follow an intelligent theorum
I mean, one o fthe titles on the minty white list is the insert for Manhattan.
why would anyone repro that piece of crap?? or any of the other crap
titles on that list?
one good thing about the ESB half sheet
seeing a
Happy Maple Leaf Day!
From: Joseph Bonelli
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:32:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Happy Thanksgiving, Canadians!
And those of us from Down Here wish the same to those Up There!! Joe B in NOLA
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*Thank you all!
I hope you all had a peaceful and enjoyable time with family and friends.
Happy thanksgiving.
Sincerely,
dario.*
Toochis Morin wrote:
Happy Maple Leaf Day!
*From:* Joseph Bonelli
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.
how many times do we have to discuss this same topic? ;)
The "minty white" inserts were printed in the mid to late 1980's. They are
"unauthorized" restrikes. They were most likely done "after hours" at the
same place the originals were printed years before (at one of the nss
print
AOL EmailDavid, you say one thing, Tom another. You obviously haven't
convinced Tom. Maybe others as well.
How many times do we have to discuss this same topic? You tell me.
This afternoon Tom posted his thoughts on the Provenance thread, and by the
way, also stated that in his opinion the
How many times do we have to discuss this same topic? You tell me.
probably until definitive information is posted with comparative
photos so that dealers can come to a solid consensus
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David I have to respectfully disagree with the theory your setting
forth... its patently not true in my opinion.
Where you in business in 1977 - 1989 period- selling movie Posters?
Did you have a business relationship with any suppliers during the
years in question?
When you purport that
Just for the sake of clarity Dave, since in your response here you
state "they are "unauthorized" restrikes", which I think suggests all
were made from the original plates.
This subject was raised on NSFGE in connection with Dracula, the ink-
jets and the relative standards of the forgeries.
AOL EmailZeev,
It's not just David who's trying to make it clear that there are such a thing
as bootleg inserts.
It's probably many people here on MOPO who are wondering why we are beating our
heads against the wall.. again.
Re-reading Tom's post, I think there is a basic misunderstanding of the
Rich,
In the case of the notorious minty white repros... I have a gut-level
suspicion that when these bozos decided to embark upon their enterprise
that the titles they chose to reproduce were simply the titles they
happened to have *originals* if in their possession at the time, and so
they
Mopoers,
I got an e-mail from Tim Landry - very civil in tone - sounds like a
nice guy -
about the comments below. I want to make sure everyone knows I was
not slamming
Tim's poster. The "barge pole" remark was meant to play off Richard
Evan's comment, but
really not intended to comment o
is there any other dealer (other than the bad guys that have been selling
them on ebay for the past several years and other than Tom)..that
thinks these things are real?? anyone on mopo? anyone on nsfge? anyone on mpf??
I'd raly like to hear from someone reputable that thinks they a
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