[Mpls] Police Brutality Marches:CUAPB and Coalition of Black Churches

2003-10-23 Thread Shawn Lewis
Basically, Same issues different groups who are active on this issue. Protest march decries Minneapolis police brutality Terry Collins and Howie Padilla, Star Tribune Published October 23, 2003 Near the end of a three-hour rally against police brutality Wednesday, protesters sealed the day

[Mpls] Police Brutality Complaints

2003-10-23 Thread Michelle Gross
At 09:45 AM 10/22/03 -0500, Dyna wrote: I just returned from a trip to Tucson Arizona, and I read about the Minneapolis incident in the Arizona Daily Star. It struck me that in Tuscon, despite the usual obnoxious cop attitude, the police really do try to help everyone, even the "freaks." I think

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists Martha Donald  as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word.               Jon Gord

[Mpls] Not-to-be-missed event next Wednesday

2003-10-23 Thread Dee Long
Many thanks to Ann Berget for posting this earlier this week.  I'm re-posting for those who may have missed it. This should be a really worthwhile event for list members, regardless of their political leanings!     Dee Long, living in Minnetonka, working in St. Paul, but my heart is still

Re: [Mpls] re: Comments on FBI investigation of Police Brutality in Minneapolis

2003-10-23 Thread Susan Maricle
Dyna, I feel your pain. Having thugs live on your block is no fun. Over the 11 years we lived in Folwell, we were regularly sleep deprived by a parade of next-door tenants who conducted screaming matches until 3 a.m. Complaints to the tenants were to no avail; complaints to the landlord (who lived

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Tamir Nolley
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > CYAPB lists Martha Donald as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. To which Jon Gorder replied: Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word. TN I've always thought of Melissa

[Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread List Manager
Lynnell Mickelsen has a plan http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4169566.html David Brauer List manager REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait.

[Mpls] Pollution;Porter;MPD

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Mork
Pollution Given the description of the intended role of the acquifer, I'm surprised the city isn't taking the initiative to get the word out. This certainly isn't something one would want coming out AFTER ignorance caused some sort of damage. Porter "However bleak the mayor's position may be,

Re: [Mpls] re: Comments on FBI investigation of Police Brutality in Minneapolis

2003-10-23 Thread Dennis Plante
Susan Maricle Writes: According to the Jordan article in Sunday’s Strib, it sounds like even our Dennis Plante is having second thoughts. Dennis Plante Responds: Yes, in fact the article was accurate. All of the very distinct factions at work in neighborhoods such as Jordan have, in my opin

RE: [Mpls] Racism; hairsplitting, vetting; board meetings

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Bernstein
POINT OF INFORMATION: Wizard Marks wrote "At the same time, those other than the school board who defended Jennings' appointment did so on the basis that he was white." This is not true. I cannot speak for others on the Issue Forum but for myself, my enthusiastic support for the appointment of D

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Barbara Lickness
Tamir writes: "This created a climate where those who had mental problems, (already unstable enough) became terrified of law enforcement and the case could be made, that this led Martha Donald to arm herself and thus led to the tragic death of both of these women." I say: I have posted about thi

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread Dan McGuire
Mickelsen's piece has all the class of liquidly discharged intestinal gas. The Strib didn't get its way and is acting out. Jennings quit. I'm a white parent. If he wants the job he can go through the process of explaining how his skills and abilities have proven to be useful to the school distri

RE: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Bernstein
Officer Haaf was not a situation! He was a Minneapolis Police Officer sitting at a table in a pizza restaurant on east Lake St. to eat dinner. No allegations of brutality, no contact with his murderers. He was shot by a thug and two accomplices who apparently wanted to make a name for themselves i

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread David Brauer
on 10/23/03 1:47 PM, Dan McGuire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mickelsen's piece has all the class of liquidly discharged intestinal gas. > The Strib didn't get its way and is acting > out. Hey, the Strib has gone to great lengths to print critics of its editorial position. Since we're assigning

[Mpls] Minneapolis Miasma

2003-10-23 Thread Tom Welling
Main Entry: mi·as·ma Pronunciation: mI-'az-m&, mE- Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -mas also mi·as·ma·ta /-m&-t&/ Etymology: New Latin, from Greek, defilement, from miainein to pollute Date: 1665 1 : a vaporous exhalation formerly believed to cause disease; also : a heavy vaporous emanat

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread Socialist2001
In a message dated 10/23/2003 11:20:29 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Lynnell Mickelsen has a plan > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4169566.html > Poor Dave Jennings, afraid of being crucified by a small but vocal group of black malcontents. Could Jenni

[Mpls] Police, Concentration of poverty, & Famous Dave

2003-10-23 Thread gemgram
Well here I am agreeing with Jim Mork again. It is preposterous to think Minneapolis has the worst Police Officers around. What it is really is the hyperbole of a few people with axes to grind against Minneapolis Police officers. The FACTS are that Minneapolis Police Officers are some of the most

[Mpls] Re: Police Brutality Complaints

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Bonham
CUAPB maintains a 24-hour hotline for police brutality incidents. We meet with people, take photos of their injuries, etc. Our hotline gets 15-20 calls a week on a slow week. Two things that strike us about the calls that come in: a lot of the same kinds of abuses over and over AND we hear the

Re: [Mpls] Racism; hairsplitting, vetting; board meetings

2003-10-23 Thread WizardMarks
Jim Bernstein wrote: POINT OF INFORMATION: Wizard Marks wrote "At the same time, those other than the school board who defended Jennings' appointment did so on the basis that he was white." This is not true. That was hyperbole, admittedly, and unfair, but was not intentionally race-baiting.

[Mpls] Recent police incidents

2003-10-23 Thread Rosalind Nelson
I wish the police beating of Alfred Flowers at the NAACP meeting had gotten the same level of attention that the Porter incident is getting. This is from the October 1 issue of _One Nation News_: "I came outside and saw that they had him handcuffed," said Booker T. Hodges, an NAACP memb

Re: [Mpls] Police, Concentration of poverty, & Famous Dave

2003-10-23 Thread WizardMarks
In the absence of Brother Paul I'm gonna take on some of this. gemgram wrote: It is preposterous to think Minneapolis has the worst Police Officers around. What it is really is the hyperbole of a few people with axes to grind against Minneapolis Police officers. WM: There are many more people

[Mpls] Another City Staffer asking your advise

2003-10-23 Thread Young, Susan A
Greetings. Litter and debris is an issue that periodically recurs in the Issues Forum discussion. Many of the Issues Folks gave City Staff valued input back in 2000 when the City Council convened the Clean Minneapolis Task Force. The Task Force examined the topic of Minneapolis Cleanliness...

Re: [Mpls] Lynnell Mickelson's Commentary, Jennings supporters and opponents

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Johnson
WizardMarks wrote: Jim Bernstein wrote: POINT OF INFORMATION: Wizard Marks wrote "At the same time, those other than the school board who defended Jennings' appointment did so on the basis that he was white." This is not true. That was hyperbole, admittedly, and unfair, but was not intentional

Re: [Mpls] re: Comments on FBI investigation of Police Brutality in Minneapolis

2003-10-23 Thread Dennis Plante
Since writing my last correspondence I had a conversation related to this issue with a neighbor that is very much abreast of statistics related to institutional racism. It seems the "tipping point" for whites is 30-40%. In other words, when african americans inhabit a neighborhood to the tune

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread Andy Driscoll
Lynnell Mickelsen is one of your city's unsung heroes, immersed in its education system and active in her community - not to mention one of your finest writers ever. Lynnell's humor, energy, enthusiasm and commitment to progressive values - REAL progressive values - are often used to strip the blin

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Bonham
Mickelsen's piece has all the class of liquidly discharged intestinal gas. . . . Dan McGuire Ericsson It's been a long time since my physics classes, but I don't recall that it is physically possible for any matter to be both "liquid" and "gas" at the same time. Has Dan come up with a n

[Mpls] New PolicyLink Report Makes Case for Increasing Affordable Housing Through Inclusionary Zoning

2003-10-23 Thread JIM GRAHAM
Housing Minnesota Bulletin has a couple of very interesting links for those truly interested in affordable housing and increasing life choices and chances for those needing affordable housing. To improve the overall quality of life for ALL our Minneapolis residents Minneapolis City Government needs

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality Complaints, tipping

2003-10-23 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Michelle Gross wrote: Actually, the Minneapolis Police Department is considered by other police departments to be one of the most brutal and one of the most poorly run police departments in the country. I base this on numerous discussions with polic

Re: [Mpls] MPD

2003-10-23 Thread Michelle Gross
At 11:13 AM 10/23/03 -0500, Jim Mork wrote: MPD Every time I turn around, I hear or read someone saying that Minneapolis is egregious in something. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I am sure it is fun to say it, considering how people ALWAYS want to knock Minnesotans of their high horse, but t

[Mpls] EDITORIAL:Dark days ahead for our fair city

2003-10-23 Thread Shawn Lewis
Dark days ahead for our fair city By: Ron Edwards Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 10/23/2003 The events of October 14, 15, and 16, 2003, given front-page play in the Star Tribune and Pioneer Press last week, have shaken the very foundation of the image of the City of Minneapolis

Re: [Mpls] Jesus Christ for School Supt?

2003-10-23 Thread Annie Young
My favorite writer on the issues list and in Minneapolis says it well and as I read I substituted President of the United States or Mayor of Minneapolis where appropriate along with government, federal or city instead of public schools. etc. But you get the drift as Lynnell says it well - we wan

[Mpls] This town needs an enema

2003-10-23 Thread Socialist2001
I bet you expected this was going to be another post about the Jennings appointment. This town needs an enema is the title of a one-shot zine of zine reviews published in 1998, which includes a review of my second pamphlet, Separate but Equal. That fab review will grace the cover of a new pam

[Mpls] Superintendent;Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Mork
Superintendent Well, I have to ask myself what was the editorial thinking in putting THAT article in the newspaper? It doesn't add heat or light to the discussion. Maybe just a beaker of acid. And it is total nonsense. Those of us who thought Jennings was NOT a good appointment have stated ad