/
Note section 1.3:
1.3 Using an IMAP server instead of local mail
1. Tell mutt to use your IMAP INBOX as your $spoolfile: set
spoolfile=imap://hostname/INBOX
2. Set your $folder to your IMAP root: set folder=imap://hostname/
> Does $spoolfile work for POP too?
tware--even in mail software, there are few cases where the message
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:13:52PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote:
> > > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing
&
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:25:56AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
> > If so that feature may not be working correctly...
>
> That is the old format for the mutt version I'm using. The new format
> looks like
>
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 08:05:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
> > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone)
> > should care in the slightest what your message ID looks like.
>
> That&
g as replies and message threading work
properly in your mail client, don't even look at it--it is (or should
be) completely opaque to you.
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all the things. I've sat down to write one several times, but I
always get interrupted by something that seems to matter more at the
time, so it hasn't happened. -_-
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Sandeep,
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Sadeep Madurange wrote:
> On 2024-03-29 16:47:22, Derek Martin wrote:
> > [*] Except in extremely rare and completely esoteric cases that apply
> > only to experts... and by now should really apply to no one.
>
> Th
le all this automatically--but the basics
of the problem and its solution are still the same.
In another such post I commented that this topic comes up often enough
that it really ought to be a FAQ. Some day I'll take the time to
collect the details in a bit better format and prov
blem was I had set the
> latter in my .kshrc when I needed to set it in .xsession. It's all good
> now.
Your settings may "work" but they are not correct. You might not have
trouble with Mutt displaying ??? where it shouldn't anymore, but if
you don't take care to set u
Check the headers for In-Reply-To and References. Your company's Email Software
seems to be insufficient.
However mutt might use a setting to group by subject.
nal $options -e /foo/bin/mutt
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On 22-09-07 01:00, raf via Mutt-users wrote:
On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg > wrote:
> > > I expect it is done in mutt because it
must be done (for transport), > and it would be a mistake to assume that
it will be done by the > editor, whatever editor it is. I don't
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 07:45:05PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote:
> Derek Martin wrote on Wed, 31 Aug 2022
> at 19:35:15 EDT in <20220831233515.gf13...@bladeshadow.org>:
>
> Evaluating the strength of a SHOULD requires looking at pragmatic
> realities. And that reality is that
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 04:38:11PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote:
> I don't mean to monopolize the conversation, but:
>
> Derek Martin wrote on Wed, 31 Aug 2022
> at 15:48:55 EDT in <20220831194855.gc13...@bladeshadow.org>:
>
> > I don't see why this matters,
ple
to send messages that are annoyingly hard to read in text-based
clients, and risk transmission failure when they attempt to do so
outside the extremely well-behaved confines of Mutt.
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y issue, I would encourage
you to discuss that with a psychologist. From a scientific
standpoint, I mean... =8^)
Also don't forget to actually look at the image on your phone. The
scale will obviously be out of whack if you view it on a desktop (but
the readability will still not)!
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 01:46:49PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote:
> Derek Martin wrote on Wed, 31 Aug 2022
> at 13:39:42 EDT in <20220831173942.gb13...@bladeshadow.org>:
>
> > It's been my experience that if you read your mail on anything other
> > than a phone, the
;t accommodate
the standard, and/or refuse to rotate it so that it can, then you get
what you get, it's your choice and the consequences of your choice are
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Regarding the following, written by "Victor Goff" on 2022-08-18 at 20:09 Uhr
-0400:
I have used https://tmate.io for those on Windows and those with a small
amount of experience with computers in general. Since you can share a
browser, and they can either type with you or not, and they do not
Regarding the following, written by "Derek Martin" on 2022-08-18 at 15:23 Uhr
-0500:
If this is all you need to do, then, do you really need to preserve
the threading?
Excellent point, and the answer is no. It helps with:
enough info to demonstrate their uniqueness.
but I can
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:10:38AM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users wrote:
> Thanks for your responses so far!
>
> The reason I need this index is that I have to provide evidence of "a huge
> volume of mails" on a given topic, without actually sharing the emails.
If t
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 01:02:39PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 09:17:11AM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 04:59:41PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:33:44PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> > Or they could j
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:10:38AM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users wrote:
> > I don't think it will be better or easier than what you've done. But
> > you could try using a '|' filter in $index_format to append some output
> > to a file as a side e
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 09:17:11AM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 04:59:41PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:33:44PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:22:31PM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users
> >>
Regarding the following, written by "Bastian" on 2022-08-18 at 14:48 Uhr +0200:
1981% mutt > /dev/shm/o
*blindly pressing q*
bastian@t6l ~
1982% wc /dev/shm/o
1 599 6251 /dev/shm/o
```
lotus:/dev/shm% mutt > /dev/shm/mutt || echo $?
Regarding the following, written by "Christian Brabandt" on 2022-08-18 at 13:15
Uhr +0200:
I wonder if you can make use of public-inbox, which is e.g. used to
create the git mailinglist archive. It's not pretty, but generates a
threaded mail archive from a Maildir, IIRC. Not sure how easy enoug
Regarding the following, written by "Bastian" on 2022-08-18 at 11:41 Uhr +0200:
--- paste:
% LINES=10 COLUMNS=1 mutt $OPTIONS > maildir.out
--- eop
This does not generate any output for me, i.e. the generated file is
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Regarding the following, written by "Marcus C. Gottwald" on 2022-08-18 at 09:53
Uhr +0200:
So, if one of these output formats would be a step forward, and you
found a way to make an xterm window enormously large,
Not a bad idea to use the screendump functionality of X terminals.
But I am talk
Thanks for your responses so far!
The reason I need this index is that I have to provide evidence of
"a huge volume of mails" on a given topic, without actually sharing
the emails. So I need a PDF index. Hence I thought making an HTML
table, and then printing that. Easiest.
A screenshot/bitm
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:33:44PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:22:31PM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users
> wrote:
> > For reasons you don't want to know,
>
> You may be underestimating the curiosity of your audience.
I suspect what Sam really
Folks,
This isn't really a Mutt question, but you're the kind of people
that most likely would have good answers on the following:
For reasons you don't want to know, I have to visualise a Maildir
with a couple of thousand messages, i.e. essentially provide a
mutt-style index with correspond
but you might
want to have a look at this:
https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/wikis/MuttGuide/Macros
There are other ways, like starting mutt with a different config file,
etc., and probably more that I haven't thought of, but I think one of
the two above will be easies
ul--the normal quit (normally bound
to 'q') already syncs before quitting. But you can't sync a read-only
mailbox so just exit instead (normally bound to 'x').
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vely impact anything
that might have known about the old message number? If messages are
routinely renumbered, I'm guessing not, but I wouldn't know. Does
header cache work with mh, and would that be impacted?
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draconian enough to make that argument seriously. =8^)
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to something that sendmail's tokenization can handle, seems like it
should work...
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return home. If this is day one of your 2-week vacation... :(
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tly running iconv to convert your message
from UTF-8 (which it most likely is in) to iso8859-1, which partially
fails due to the annoying curly quotes, and then passes it to your
filter script, which runs on that but it is already converted to '?'
due to the character not having an equ
Am 2022-03-22 um 01:56 schrieb raf:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 01:28:28PM +0100, Martin Trautmann wrote:
Am 2022-03-21 um 12:56 schrieb raf:
textmail can probably do at least some of what you want:
https://raf.org/textmail
https://github.com/raforg/textmail
and it has some
Am 2022-03-21 um 12:56 schrieb raf:
textmail can probably do at least some of what you want:
https://raf.org/textmail
https://github.com/raforg/textmail
and it has some extensibility so you can supply external
translation programs for the bits it doesn't do.
it can operate on individual
ever programmed it before myself.
Thans,
Martin
shrink the size of some mailboxes for archive purposes,
without throwing away too much.
Thanks,
Martin
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 02:37:52PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 02:28:30PM +0100, Mihai Lazarescu wrote:
> >Single expression
> >date: works as a shorthand for date:...
> >For example, date:monday matches from the beginning of
> >Monday until the e
rs you care about, if it's always the same specific
set. If there are different sets you care about in different
situations, you could even do something crazy like define (only) those
in different .muttrc files, and then define macros to load the
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 08:13:15PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote:
> Derek Martin wrote on Mon, 25 Oct 2021
> at 19:00:12 EDT in <20211025230012.gc9...@bladeshadow.org>:
>
> > Cost? I see no cost, other than the time needed to physically check
>
> My Oct. 7 email, to wh
know if this warrants the effort to change the default;
however if someone is intent on making a change, I think that the
above makes the case that it should be "Fwd: %s" (or some similar
variation of an abbreviation of "forward").
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 04:45:19AM +, Globe Trotter via Mutt-users wrote:
> As I mentioned if I type joe in the To: prompt, it expands to
> joe@localhost. I want this to expand to a detailed j...@yahoo.com
> (where that @yahoo.com is added by default since i do not have joe as
> an alias in my
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 05:40:05PM -0400, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> I found that "man mutt" is not the whole manual.
>
> Note: This manual page gives a brief overview of the mutt executable
>command line options. A copy of the full manual is located
> in
>/usr/share/do
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:15PM -0400, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
> I see in the docs that alternates takes regular expressions. So, is the
> best way something like:
>
> set from="jeffpc@..."
> set reverse_name=yes
> set use_from=yes
>
> alternates jeffpc(\+[^@]+)?@... j
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:20:09PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 05:09:36PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> >> >>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs
long as your internet connection is working, your mail
will go out, and will continue to go out so long as you don't muck
with things and subsequently botch them. If you do make subsequent
changes, of course you will need to test them...
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 05:09:36PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> >>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs to make sure the e-mail
> >>> was actually sent.
> >>
> >> You do (or you need to make sure that
il.
It does have a down side though... if your recipient's mail gateway is
down or unreachable, sending your mail will fail, and you'll have to
try again manually, until it eventually succeeds. If you use an
outgoing mail relay it fixes this for you by periodically retryi
sender intended for a
distribution list of people who are not explicitly named--they need
not and perhaps should not know about each other.
If you don't want that, you can name yourself as the recipient.
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sets), mutt uses these fields to re-encode the message content using
the iconv program on your system.
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> > > set the message id? Thanks.
> >
> > Even if Mutt doesn't set one, the first MTA it hits will add one.
>
> I want the first MTA add one, instead of using the one generated by mutt.
OK, but that's not really an answer. What problem are you trying to
so
d probably they
don't either).
- It probably won't have much of a practical effect, even if you do,
because whatever you're submitting the message to will probably do
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On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:01:21AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:56:56PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > I can't
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > The same place in a mbox hierarchy shows me the size of the maibox and
> >
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:01:25PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 08:29:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > > > This is by no means a show stopper, I'm going to stay with maildir,
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:10:28PM -0400, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 18:55:51 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> ...
> > On Unix systems, at least
> > for most file systems, the size of a directory is the space occupied
> > by the
tters in practice, but from a purely
philosophical standpoint, do I feel strongly about actively choosing
to display information that's factually wrong, especially when the
only upside (as far as I can see) is a completely subjective cosmetic
improvement. If I'd noticed, I certainly would ha
it knows (via configuration) are mail
folders, but main purpose of showing directories in the file browser
is to navigate them, and I suspect most users rarely look at most of
the info on directories in the file browser for that reason... So that
still seems like the Wrong Thing™ to me.
[The fa
f immediately. I don't think any sane maintainer would
commit a patch for that...
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already using to deliver your mail?
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and mutt is
just consuming it.
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about how they handle composing HTML messages. You might search the
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eature useful, but I know it's there...
And that is why I said having a visual divider is a distasteful waste
of space. It has nothing to do with fashion--it has everything to do
with efficient function.
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There's no way to do this currently in Mutt.
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thing that doesn't work like Mutt, there are plenty of
other mail clients that don't work like Mutt.
I think the solution you're looking for is to fix or properly
configure your file system index service.
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but some of the time it
will be wrong.]
A likely better option is to compress the folder. If HTML truly is
the bloat, it should compress very efficiently.
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e, it often enough just says something like, "This
e-mail must be viewed with an HTML-capable mail client." They clearly
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make the necessary accommodations, however begrudgingly.
> Moreover, you appear to be committing the logical fallacy called
> "argumentum ad populum" (aka "majoritarianism").
No, because accepted practice is determined by the majority (in this
case overwhelmingly so), so it'
g battle. :(
Yeah, I've been trying to explain this to some folks around here
recently, but not having much success. You have my sympathy.
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:49:46PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 06:08:37PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 09:32:01AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> >>> On W
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 01:55:16AM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2020-04-18, Derek Martin wrote:
>
> > Termite emulates an RS-232 terminal--a simple (AKA "dumb") ASCII
> > terminal, whereas rxvt has a more complex interface that allows
> > sending and receiv
terminal since I had a 9600
baud modem that was like 35 years ago. Even minicom supported
vt100 terminal emulation over a serial line...
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 09:32:01AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:17:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> >>> Sorry,
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 09:05:52AM -0700, Felix Finch wrote:
> On 20200409, Derek Martin wrote:
> > And honestly, most mailers have the ability to avoid these attack
> > vectors--they just don't by default, because that's what the average
> > person wants. Mutt us
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 12:26:43AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 03:08:45PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 14:43:47 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote:
> >> On 2020-04-07 22:18, Derek Martin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Then again,
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 07:59:45AM -0400, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:18:37PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > I've said it before--I too would love a mutt-based (or mutt-similar)
> > GUI mail client. Frankly, no matter how much I love Mutt (and you
>
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:17:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:09:55AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote:
> > Sorry, but this is an archaic way of looking at the problem. People
> > have been d
norm, common
practice, and really it is therefore WE who are being inconsiderate by
not accepting de facto standards that have been widely adopted for a
very long time.
OK, I'm done ranting now.
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I really need to give Kmail another look. Then again,
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e I don't think these snippets have captured
whatever is slowing you down, and based on what you've said and this
strace, I think almost certainly whatever it was happened after this.
Probably immediately after this... I further suspect that whatever it
is will not appear to be a pause,
quot;improvement" since that means it is
> probably the most lightweight choice today.
I don't think Thomas (Dickey, maintainer of xterm who also hangs out
here) would entirely agree with that characterization. ;-)
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On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 12:21:15PM +1300, martin f krafft wrote:
> Regarding the following, written by "Derek Martin" on 2019-10-31 at 15:39 Uhr
> -0500:
> > And FWIW, I *was* discussing (very limited, completely text-based)
> > support for HTML messages in Mutt. I w
ts forward views.
views belong to people
who are not artists."
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Regarding the following, written by "martin f krafft" on 2019-11-02 at 23:40
Uhr +1300:
How does this message fare? I’ve hacked up
my script so that it actually keeps the ‘>’
even in the HTML, but uses CSS to hide it.
Yeah, so I am not convinced at all, because all the html2tex
Regarding the following, written by "Martin Trautmann" on 2019-11-02 at 10:22
Uhr +0100:
However, the usage of blockquote within HTML is something where
there is not necessarily a proper way of handling this -
Thunderbird does not do it properly, as you see above. How does
handle h
On 19-11-01 11:37, martin f krafft wrote:
> Regarding the following, written by “Stefan Hagen” on 2019-11-01 at
> 08:53 Uhr +0100:
>
> While I was able to just write an email and send it, it is now a
> process of carefully “coding” an email, previewing, correcting,
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rbarism to decadence without touching civilization."
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Regarding the following, written by "Derek Martin" on 2019-10-31 at 15:39 Uhr
-0500:
And FWIW, I *was* discussing (very limited, completely text-based)
support for HTML messages in Mutt. I want it, have wanted it for a
long time, because all of the available options for dealing wit
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