Re: GPG - Mailing list encryption

2010-09-17 Thread Hu Tao
Hi, On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:51:38PM +0200, the.real.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I am somehow clueless, I searched the web a lot regarding this topic but didn't find a clear statement. Therefore I ask on this list. I'm using mailing lists a lot, no problem so far. I'm also a big

Re: GPG - Mailing list encryption

2010-09-17 Thread the . real . kabel
* Hu Tao hu...@cn.fujitsu.com [Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:04:07PM +0800] Hi, On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:51:38PM +0200, the.real.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I am somehow clueless, I searched the web a lot regarding this topic but didn't find a clear statement. Therefore I ask

Re: GPG - Mailing list encryption

2010-09-17 Thread christoph
* Am Do, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:51:38 +0200 , schrieb the.real.ka...@gmail.com: Hello list, I am somehow clueless, I searched the web a lot regarding this topic but didn't find a clear statement. Therefore I ask on this list. I'm using mailing lists a lot, no problem so far. I'm also a big GPG

GPG - Mailing list encryption

2010-09-16 Thread the . real . kabel
Hello list, I am somehow clueless, I searched the web a lot regarding this topic but didn't find a clear statement. Therefore I ask on this list. I'm using mailing lists a lot, no problem so far. I'm also a big GPG user. Some mailing lists I'm on are using encryption too, in order to not have

How to reply a list with right From:

2010-08-27 Thread j...@telefonica.net
Hello friends. I have lists and subscribe configured to my lists, but when reply to one of them, the From: header is the actual one of various I have. I can change From: with F1Fn but I'm looking for a hook or macro to use the right one for each list. Any advice will be nice. Thanks

Re: How to reply a list with right From:

2010-08-27 Thread Paul
for each list. send-hook '~t \\mutt-us...@mutt\.org\\' 'my_hdr From: your address here' -- .

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-29 Thread Christoph Kukulies
is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social research :) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
email to each user. Otherwise that user doesn't know that the email went to a list of undisclosed recipients. I sometimes receive such emails that are marked as undisclosed recipients in the Cc:. Could that possibly achieved by mutt forging the headers (in a benign way of course). Sending

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-28 Thread Christoph Kukulies
:) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Edwards
. Often this is an interesting field for social research :) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users and only show up the one

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
research :) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users and only show up the one addressee plus a note that the email went to a group of undisclosed users? Put the alias in the Bcc: line and yourself in the To: line. Thanks. Neat idea. I saved the mail with the long recipients list to a file and it contains

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
idea. I saved the mail with the long recipients list to a file and it contains a bunch of umlauts in the form of =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?=p...@juergen.net Any idea how I can convert this to some other encoding Usedecode-save (bound toescs by default) instead ofsave so I can put

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
users? Put the alias in the Bcc: line and yourself in the To: line. Thanks. Neat idea. I saved the mail with the long recipients list to a file and it contains a bunch of umlauts in the form of =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?=p...@juergen.net Any idea how I can convert this to some other encoding

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
the 100 users and only show up the one addressee plus a note that the email went to a group of undisclosed users? Put the alias in the Bcc: line and yourself in the To: line. Thanks. Neat idea. I saved the mail with the long recipients list to a file and it contains a bunch

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 16:14:05 +0200 Ah, I see. Well, the users file was retrieved by saving that persons email - good to know about that decode-save now - and hand editing it. I finally ran some vi commands over it and manually converted all the =FC and

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Chip Camden
research :) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 11:08]: Make sure you have set write_bcc=no in your .muttrc, or the Bcc header will be included in the message. That *only* applies to your locally saved copy, not the outgoing message that others see. see the man page. -- Patrick

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 02:58:56PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 11:08]: Make sure you have set write_bcc=no in your .muttrc, or the Bcc header will be included in the message. That *only* applies to your locally saved copy, not

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean Default: yes Controls whether mutt writes out the “Bcc:” header when preparing messages to

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Hmmm... Seems like you're wrong after all (Mutt 1.5.20hg (2009-08-27)). Mutt may well write out the Bcc line on the message that is sent out. The bcc addressed to me, I have rec'd and it does *not* contain a bcc header or any of the

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 27, 2010 at 03:29 PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Hmmm... Seems like you're wrong after all (Mutt 1.5.20hg (2009-08-27)). Mutt may well write out the Bcc line on the message that is sent out. It's probably dependent on the SMTP agent, no? I did a test earlier today using putmail as my

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean Default: yes Controls whether mutt writes out

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 16:51]: Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: and I am bcc'ing this post to you, the op and me. Maybe sendmail strips it? I'm using ssmtp. I have: postfix-2.7.1-50.1.x86_64 -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana,

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Grant Edwards
this in a case now when I'm about to send an information about an upcoming event to a list of about 100 users. Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users and only show up the one addressee plus

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:57:39PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users and only show up the one addressee plus a note that the email went to a

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I have: :set ?write_bcc write_bcc is set and I am bcc'ing this post to you, the op and me. Maybe sendmail strips it? I'm using ssmtp. It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:43]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and ssmtp may not as well (but it probably should). Exim claims to have good reason for leaving them,

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:46:55PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:43]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and ssmtp may not as well (but it

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:56]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:46:55PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Then the *problem* is with exim rather than the *expected* actions of mutt's config? It's an arguable point. And it's a long-known problem.

Directory selection list to save attachment(s)

2010-07-23 Thread {mutt-user}
Hi, After pressing 'v' to view list of attachments, select the attachment then hit 's', backspac over the filename then hit TAB to get a directory list, it is possible to navigate the directory list but I cannot see how to make a directory selection. 'q' does exit the list but it does

Re: Directory selection list to save attachment(s)

2010-07-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* {mutt-us...@nospam.pz.podzone.net {mutt-us...@nospam.pz.podzone.net [07-23-10 04:36]: After pressing 'v' to view list of attachments, select the attachment then hit 's', backspac over the filename then hit TAB to get a directory list, it is possible to navigate the directory list but I

Re: Directory selection list to save attachment(s)

2010-07-23 Thread {mutt-user}
. But how do you exit the directory list? Hitting enter goes into that directory - this is how I navigate from ~/ down until the desired directory is reached. Hitting q exits the directory list but the selection is not maintained. I should mention this is with Mutt 1.5.9i (2005-03-13) Perhaps

Re: [PATCH] Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-14 Thread ilf
On 04-12 14:20, Michael Elkins wrote: Attached is a patch which implement an auto-subscribe feature. When you load a mailbox, Mutt will parse the List-Post header field and add it to the 'subscribe' list automatically, unless it matches something on the 'unlists' or 'unsubscribe' list

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-13 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:47:21AM +0200, ilf wrote: On 04-11 20:22, Michael Elkins wrote: The reason for the distinction between lists/subscribe is that just because you received an email that was addressed to a list doesn't mean that you are subscribed to said list. But if there's

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-12 Thread ilf
On 04-11 20:32, Michael Elkins wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:38:19AM +0200, ilf wrote: I would like a workaround to use Regex in 'lists' and 'subscribe', but that feels dirty. Why doesn't Mutt allow 'lists'/'subscribe' to lists based on the List-Id: header? The List-ID header

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
based on the List-Id: header? The List-ID header is not necessarily a valid email address. All that the RFC requires is that it be a unique value for each list. As such, it's not terribly useful for figuring out where to reply. I never proposed using List-Id to figure out where to reply, List

[PATCH] Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-12 Thread Michael Elkins
Attached is a patch which implement an auto-subscribe feature. When you load a mailbox, Mutt will parse the List-Post header field and add it to the 'subscribe' list automatically, unless it matches something on the 'unlists' or 'unsubscribe' list. me diff -r 2cd62f40d840 hcache.c

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Elkins
said, I'm clueless on it. :( [1] The reason for the distinction between lists/subscribe is that just because you received an email that was addressed to a list doesn't mean that you are subscribed to said list. For the most part you can just ignore the lists command and use subscribe. me

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Elkins
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:38:19AM +0200, ilf wrote: I would like a workaround to use Regex in 'lists' and 'subscribe', but that feels dirty. Why doesn't Mutt allow 'lists'/'subscribe' to lists based on the List-Id: header? The List-ID header is not necessarily a valid email address. All

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-10 Thread Brian Ryans
will, though, help you filter mail into different folders. I'm a procmail newbie myself, and such is offtopic for this list, so I won't go into that farther here. [1] Input from someone more clueful would be appreciated, as this is beyond my understanding at this point. -- _ Brian Ryans 8B2A 54C4

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting ilf on 2010-04-08 16:09:46: I'm confused by Mutts handling of mailing lists. First, I do not understand the difference of known lists (lists) and subscribed lists (subscribe). If Mutt handles mail from a known list, I'm probably subscribed, no? Mutt's meaning of known and subscribed

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-09 Thread ilf
Lists sais, Mutt can do things with mailing lists once Mutt knows what [my] mailing lists are. It can: 1. show mailing list in index with - listname with $index_format including %L - message status flag 'L' with $index_format including %Z 2. use list-reply 3. use $followup_to Section 3.9

Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting ilf on 2010-04-09 12:18:08: Thanks for your hints. But I am still confused :) Now I'm confused too, see below. Manual section 4.8 Handling Mailing Lists sais, Mutt can do things with mailing lists once Mutt knows what [my] mailing lists are. It can: 1. show mailing list in index

handling List-Id header

2010-04-08 Thread ilf
I'm confused by Mutts handling of mailing lists. First, I do not understand the difference of known lists (lists) and subscribed lists (subscribe). If Mutt handles mail from a known list, I'm probably subscribed, no? Secondly, I find having to manually maintain a list of subscriptions in my

Re: Mailing list and To:

2010-03-24 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 23.03.10,08:45, Michael Elkins wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 04:20:04PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, March 23, 2010 a las 11:13:00PM +0800, Jostein Berntsen escribió: When I receive a mail from a mailing list, is it an easy way im Mutt to see which of my

Re: Mailing list and To:

2010-03-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no [03-24-10 15:33]: Thanks. It seems like this header can also give the right result: fgrep 'Original-recipient' | less This is rare. I ran it on a folder with an accumulation of mostly non email list traffic and had one hit out of 1395 messages

Mailing list and To:

2010-03-23 Thread Jostein Berntsen
Hi, When I receive a mail from a mailing list, is it an easy way im Mutt to see which of my To: addresses the list is using? -- Jostein Berntsen jber...@broadpark.no

Re: Mailing list and To:

2010-03-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, March 23, 2010 a las 11:13:00PM +0800, Jostein Berntsen escribió: Hi, When I receive a mail from a mailing list, is it an easy way im Mutt to see which of my To: addresses the list is using? just pipe the mail through: | fgrep 'for ' matthias -- Matthias Apitz

Re: Mailing list and To:

2010-03-23 Thread Michael Elkins
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 04:20:04PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, March 23, 2010 a las 11:13:00PM +0800, Jostein Berntsen escribió: When I receive a mail from a mailing list, is it an easy way im Mutt to see which of my To: addresses the list is using? just pipe the mail

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Gray
of this approach. I'm not so sure that model works for the list header thing though. One could certainly write a utility to parse the headers and display them. However, the final action that one takes with the selected output is not to pass it off to a program of your choice based on mailcap, but to send

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Gray
, there are other reasons why you might want to edit the body of the message. If I'm not mistaken, there are commands you can send to some list addresses. Not that anyone uses those...

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Rado S
=- Tim Gray wrote on Fri 5.Feb'10 at 11:32:59 -0500 -= Though, there are other reasons why you might want to edit the body of the message. If I'm not mistaken, there are commands you can send to some list addresses. Not that anyone uses those... I do, but the interfaces vary, so ... I just

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:50:02PM -0600, David Young wrote: Isn't this a problem of packaging, not a problem of architecture or philosophy? It should be evident from the large amount of traffic on this list that it is not. If you've been here long enough, you see the same threads over

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Rado S
=- Derek Martin wrote on Fri 5.Feb'10 at 13:13:54 -0600 -= If a useful feature should be excluded (when there is someone willing to write the code), there should be a strong technical reason for such an exclusion; not simply duh, Unix philosophy!! It's resource efficiency: I don't want to

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:19:01PM +0100, Rado S wrote: You, however, expect all the solutions to be put into the core C-code Not *all*... just the ones that make sense. The Unix Philosophy doesn't preclude maintainers from using their brains to decide what features do or don't make sense.

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Alan Mackenzie
'Evening, Derek On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 02:28:06PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: The performance characteristics are impacted more by mailbox size and by growth of the C libraries linked against, than by any combination of proposed features. Why do you link _against_ C libraries? Surely you

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:19:13PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 02:28:06PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: The performance characteristics are impacted more by mailbox size and by growth of the C libraries linked against, than by any combination of proposed features.

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-05 Thread Rado S
=- Derek Martin wrote on Fri 5.Feb'10 at 14:39:24 -0600 -= The Unix Philosophy doesn't preclude maintainers from using their brains to decide what features do or don't make sense. Dogma does. Can't you imagine that there is actually some brains behind that dogma? I'm all against mindless

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread Rado S
=- Derek Martin wrote on Fri 29.Jan'10 at 17:45:28 -0600 -= There has been a tendency in some quarters to blindly and rigidly advocate that following the Unix Philosophy is the One True Way, which has often hindered progress. What kind of progress do you mean? Maybe your goals or ideal world

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Rado S wrote: As I said, I believe that if you need to have complexity, it should be in the code, not on the user end. The glue to accomplish complex goals needs not necessarily to be in the user end, it can be put in meta-code (wrappers), which

New message to a list automating the deletion of In-Reply-To

2010-02-04 Thread John Magolske
When composing a new message to a list, I typically use the list-reply command, then manually delete the In-Reply-To: header line and change the subject. It would be really handy to automate this somehow with a macro that: * deletes the In-Reply-To: header line * prompts the user with a blank

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 04 Feb 2010 at 15:44:08 PST Derek Martin wrote: It's not that simple. Outlook sucks for a lot of reasons, many of them technical. Mutt has very few technical weaknesses, but its user interface is from 3 decades ago. I, and I suspect a lot of people, would love to see a modern Mutt.

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread David Young
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:44:08PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Rado S wrote: As I said, I believe that if you need to have complexity, it should be in the code, not on the user end. The glue to accomplish complex goals needs not necessarily to

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread Morris, Patrick
Charlie Kester wrote: On Thu 04 Feb 2010 at 15:44:08 PST Derek Martin wrote: It's not that simple. Outlook sucks for a lot of reasons, many of them technical. Mutt has very few technical weaknesses, but its user interface is from 3 decades ago. I, and I suspect a lot of people, would love

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-02-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Morris, Patrick patrick.mor...@hp.com [02-04-10 23:08]: (Disclaimer: I'm on a borrowed laptop at the moment, so don't read the headers on this one.) you don't have a stick with putty on it? For shame :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-01-29 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:09:41PM -0600, David Champion wrote: I would love to see RFC2369 handling built in to mutt, but have not had time to explore this in code. I'm certain there are others here who would cite the Unix Philosophy or whatever, and assert that an external program could do

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-01-29 Thread David Young
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:55:32PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: Another way to look at it, if you think that the above idea is stretching the Unix Philosophy beyond what was intended (which it very arguably is), is that the Unix philosoply is about 4 decades old, and software (and users) have

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-01-29 Thread chombee
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:55:32PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: There are a couple of ways to look at this. One is this: the Unix philosophy is to do one thing, and do it well. In the case of my mail program, the one thing is to handle my mail. It should be capable to do all of the essential

Re: Unix Philosophy (was List management headers)

2010-01-29 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 01:40:18PM -0600, David Young wrote: It sounds to me like you may be confusing two ideas. One idea is a way of assembling an application from small programs that perform discrete tasks in a script or pipeline. The other idea is a user's experience that an application

List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread Tim Gray
Many mailing lists tuck links and addresses useful for list management in the headers, like List-Unsubscribe and List-Help. I looked around in the manual and in Google, but I couldn't find much. I'm assuming this means mutt commands based on the info in these headers don't exist. Am I

Re: List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:22:08PM -0500, Tim Gray wrote: Many mailing lists tuck links and addresses useful for list management in the headers, like List-Unsubscribe and List-Help. I looked around in the manual and in Google, but I couldn't find much. I'm assuming this means mutt commands

Re: List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread Tim Gray
On Tue 26, Jan'10 at 5:23 PM +, Steve Kennedy wrote: If you look at the headers you'll find direct instructions for these lists? Yeah. It would be nice if you didn't have to weed through 3 screens of headers to find the right link. Like a 'list details' command that extracted

Re: List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread E. Prom
On Tuesday, 26 January 2010, 12:30:17 -0500, Tim Gray lists+m...@protozoic.com wrote : Yeah. It would be nice if you didn't have to weed through 3 screens of headers to find the right link. Not exactly what you're looking for, but unignore might help.

Re: List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread David Champion
* On 26 Jan 2010, Tim Gray wrote: Yeah. It would be nice if you didn't have to weed through 3 screens of headers to find the right link. Like a 'list details' command that extracted the appropriate links/emails from the headers and let you open the right links or send a mail to the right

Re: List management headers

2010-01-26 Thread Tim Gray
On Tue 26, Jan'10 at 12:09 PM -0600, David Champion wrote: Such a program might work like urlview: parse out List-* headers from a piped-in message and display a menu of options that these headers present (and then generate and submit mail messages as appropriate). I guess that would work

Re: Certain (mailing list) emails NOT being threaded ... trying to

2010-01-09 Thread Rado S
=- Wilkinson, Alex wrote on Fri 8.Jan'10 at 12:38:55 +0800 -= However, threading never ever has seemed to work. I am finally wanting to investigate why and if possible how to fix it. {...} Here is my folder-hook to implement threading: {...} Can anyone suggest why the aforementioned

Certain (mailing list) emails NOT being threaded ... trying to work out why ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-01-07 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
Hi all, I am subscribed to email alerts from: From: Sysinternals Forums fo...@forum.sysinternals.com However, threading never ever has seemed to work. I am finally wanting to investigate why and if possible how to fix it. Here is an example of a series of emails that should have been

Re: Certain (mailing list) emails NOT being threaded ... trying to

2010-01-07 Thread Kyle Wheeler
(unset strict_threads). It's possible that that mailing list is stripping out the usual email headers that establish threads (such as In-Reply-To and References). ~Kyle - -- In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted

Re: Certain (mailing list) emails NOT being threaded ... trying to

2010-01-07 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
enabled? If so, try turning it off (unset strict_threads). It's possible that that mailing list is stripping out the usual email headers that establish threads (such as In-Reply-To and References). I added unset strict_threads to my folder-hook e.g. folder-hook

Send message to address list, located in file

2009-09-30 Thread Andrey Zhidenkov
Hello. I want to create alias, for example 'friends' and file, for example ~/.mail_frieds, which contains address list: Andrey a...@mail.com Liza b...@mail.com ... Then I want to compose e-mail with command like this: $mutt friends Is it possible?

Re: Send message to address list, located in file

2009-09-30 Thread James Michael Fultz
* Andrey Zhidenkov andrey.zhiden...@gmail.com [2009-09-30 09:59 +0400]: Hello. I want to create alias, for example 'friends' and file, for example ~/.mail_frieds, which contains address list: Andrey a...@mail.com Liza b...@mail.com ... alias andrey Andrey a...@mail.com alias liza Liza b

Re: Send message to address list, located in file

2009-09-30 Thread Andrey Zhidenkov
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:37:09AM -0400, James Michael Fultz wrote: * Andrey Zhidenkov andrey.zhiden...@gmail.com [2009-09-30 09:59 +0400]: Hello. I want to create alias, for example 'friends' and file, for example ~/.mail_frieds, which contains address list: Andrey a...@mail.com Liza b

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-12 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 04:40:14PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-12 Thread RobertHoltzman
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 04:47:31PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-09-09, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's

sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm looking for something like Alpine's A method to send a message to the entire list

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 04:00PM -0700 Robert Holtzman (hol...@cox.net) muttered: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm looking for something like Alpine's

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-09-09, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm

Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net [09-09-09 19:00]: I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm looking for something like

Re: mailbox list problem

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:38:10AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Sunday, August 9 at 09:14 PM, quoth Robert Holtzman: The problem was that I stupidly modified the list of mail lists to duplicate the list of mailboxes. When I went back and realized what I had done I restored both lists from

mailbox list problem

2009-08-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
I set up my mailing lists to include +list-exim-users. Starting mutt gives the error: Error in /home/holtzm/.muttrc, line 320: +list-exim-users: unknown command source: errors in /home/hotzm/.muttrc Press any key to contiue... Hitting a key continues with normal operation, all mailboxes being

Re: mailbox list problem

2009-08-09 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sunday, August 9 at 01:07 PM, quoth Robert Holtzman: I set up my mailing lists to include +list-exim-users. Starting mutt gives the error: Error in /home/holtzm/.muttrc, line 320: +list-exim-users: unknown command source: errors in /home/hotzm

Re: How to cope with a mailing list that uses two addresses?

2009-08-07 Thread Chris G
' entries for my muttrc means that only one of the two list addresses gets into mutt. That seems to have fixed the problem. It, of course, remains to be seen if there are any messages on the list which *only* have one of the list addresses which in turn happens to be the one I have eliminated

Re: How to cope with a mailing list that uses two addresses?

2009-08-06 Thread Chris G
it sees a match. make sure the list is in the subscribe list subscribe list-name ## enough of the list-name to make it unique need to add something here so that the my_hdr change does not continue: unmy_hdr * send-hook list-name 'my_hdr To: list-address' warning

Re: How to cope with a mailing list that uses two addresses?

2009-08-06 Thread Christian Ebert
* Chris G on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 09:09:12 +0100 I am subscribed to a mailing list which accepts messages sent to two different (but very similar) addresses. So, for mutt to recognise all list messages I have to have two entries for the list. However this means that when I L[ist

Re: How to cope with a mailing list that uses two addresses?

2009-08-06 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:28:45PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: * Chris G on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 09:09:12 +0100 I am subscribed to a mailing list which accepts messages sent to two different (but very similar) addresses. So, for mutt to recognise all list messages I have to have

How to cope with a mailing list that uses two addresses?

2009-08-05 Thread Chris G
I am subscribed to a mailing list which accepts messages sent to two different (but very similar) addresses. So, for mutt to recognise all list messages I have to have two entries for the list. However this means that when I L[ist reply] I send to both addresses which isn't very desirable

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