On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 10:41:39AM +0200, Calin Pop wrote:
> I thing PROGRAM1 must be distributet under GPL but PROGRAM2 can be
> distributed with any license.
I've given my interpretation before, and you should probably read it;
if you link against the mysql client library to connect to the s
Hi,
Well I think the licence rules of MySQL are not that comlicated than you
wrote below.
I studied this a few month ago, and I interpret it much simplier.
1. You develop a software under GPL which uses MySQL (connects to,
includes, uses, etc. whatever).
In this case you don't need any licenc
Hi all,
First I want to say I am a MySQL fan.
I think MySQL AB interpretation of GPL creates confusion too. Do they intend
to crete and keep alive this confusion ? What for?...
Let me show you something taken from "MySQL Reference Manual for version
4.0.2-alpha"
"You can use the MySQL software
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 03:23, Pae Choi wrote:
> Look!
>
> I already unsubscribed this. Do you understand what that mean?
> I have no interest to dealing with MySQL and have no time for
> this.
>
> You must understand that this thread was started from someone
> who were interested to sell his/her p
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:14:14AM +0100, David Axmark wrote:
> > Maybe MySQL.com is concern about own profit so does other
> > commercial vendors. They all use public-domain code in some
> > degree.
I know this thread has been trollish at times, and many have
probably kill-filed it, but I'd like
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Axmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> In this case there is not distribution so no fee is needed. We would
> like to be paid in this case also but there is legal requirement for a
> license if you do not distribute.
Missing 'no'?
- rick cronan
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Look!
I already unsubscribed this. Do you understand what that mean?
I have no interest to dealing with MySQL and have no time for
this.
You must understand that this thread was started from someone
who were interested to sell his/her product that utilize MySQL. And
I was trying to help both side
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 14:45, Darney Lampert wrote:
> Sorry continue this subject ... I´m the author original question, "LEGAL
> information about MySQL".
> But I Think that my question is simple and the other answers do not make
> sense to me.
> I never said that I cha
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:43, Pae Choi wrote:
> Didn't you the previous posting that contains two paragraphs
> from GPL?
He probably did but since you misread the GPL. I have talked to Richard
Stallman and Eben Moglen who wrote the GPL about these issues. And you
misread the GPL.
/David
> And if
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> > If you are not sure exactly how the GPL works, and you have read
> > the license terms that I've referenced above, and still want
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 13:42, Pae Choi wrote:
> I do not know about MySQL marketing strategies. But as far as
> GPL goes, it even encourge to sell.
>
>
> "Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money?
> Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The [1]right to sell copies is part
>
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:52:53PM +0100, Mark wrote:
> Is this true? If so, that is a relief. But does the licence also not talk
> about "using" MySQL? Is connecting to MySQL not the same as "using" it?
First off, the GPL is very clear that it is not a mandatory license. Your
options are to eit
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> 2) Connecting to MySQL is _not_ the same as linking against it or
>modifying
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:30:58PM -0600, Mark Matthews wrote:
> If you are not sure exactly how the GPL works, and you have read the
> license terms that I've referenced above, and still want to distribute
> your software that uses and/or links to software licensed under the GPL,
> I suggest yo
Hello.
On Mon 2002-12-02 at 11:45:00 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In this case, does my client, the web-server or I need to pay a license to
> MySQL AB?
>
> Please, just wellfounded answers, not personal opinions.
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Regards,
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> From: Pae Choi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Seems like all against I see are coming from MySQL team.
> I know MySQL is stealing a lot of code from the public
> domain, inclduing the SSL part. How funny!
By definition you can't "steal" anything from the public doma
Sorry continue this subject ... I´m the author original question, "LEGAL
information about MySQL".
But I Think that my question is simple and the other answers do not make
sense to me.
I never said that I change original MySQL source code, and I just want know
if I can use MySQL data
Hello.
I do not intent to follow-up on the issue, as you are either trolling
or clueless (and not willing to inform yourself) or both.
On Sat 2002-11-30 at 08:30:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seems like all against I see are coming from MySQL team.
But I want to prevent a misconception: I
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Subject: Re: [OT] LEGAL information about MySQL.
> Hi.
>
> On Sat 2002-11-30 at 06:43:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Didn't you
Hi.
On Sat 2002-11-30 at 06:43:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Didn't you the previous posting that contains two paragraphs
> from GPL?
I saw these paragraphs. How do they relate to anything of this
discussion? They are taken out of context from the Preamble of the
license and only state som
warning!
Pae
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Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:59 AM
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On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 14:46, Pae Choi wrote:
> If MySQL plays so dirty,
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 14:46, Pae Choi wrote:
> If MySQL plays so dirty, go with PostgreSQL. It's been known
> to be better and more acceptable in all platforms. Ex, they
> have triggers, etc that MySQL does not have.
FUD. I pointed to information of FSF and people not related to MySQL.
Seems l
One final thouhgt for the people who wish to sell your
own products.
You can distribute your own products, but let your customers
download the GPL packages. In that way, you are not
distributing that.
And you can include your license saying that something
like any utilziation of third-party packa
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:33 AM
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> All who haven't read GPL FAQ, go and read it:
> http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
>
> Current discussion is covered beginning from:
>
> http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-
I do not know about MySQL marketing strategies. But as far as
GPL goes, it even encourge to sell.
"Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money?
Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The [1]right to sell copies is part
of the definition of free software. Except in one special
All who haven't read GPL FAQ, go and read it:
http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
Current discussion is covered beginning from:
http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ModifiedJustBinary
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Also, discussion here reminded me MySQL vs Progress case wh
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What you advocate is the same as saying that you if stick a pirated copy
of windows in with your software, but disclaim in your documentation
that you're only paying for your software, not the copy of windows that
Didn't you the previous posting that contains two paragraphs
from GPL?
And if someone wants to sell the software that use the MySQL,
then simply let them downlaod it. Then you will be out of this
crap.
Also, PostgreSQL will be your alternative option as well.
Pae
P.S.: There are many commercia
Hello.
This is quickly heading towards off-topic. If you are interested in a
discussion of what the GPL means, a different forum would be more
adequate, I think.
I do not necessarily completely agree with MySQL AB's interpretation
of the GPL, but since it's their product, I am fine with it.
But
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> What you advocate is the same as saying that you if stick a pirated copy
> of windows in with your software, but disclaim in your documentation
> that you're only paying for your software, not the copy of windows that
> is not following Microsoft's licensing terms.
>
Your ex
I know the GPL and seen many commercial software using
the software and/or tool under GPL.
Btw, which paragraph are you referring to?
Pae
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> Pae Choi wrote:
> > If your software utilize the software under GPL license, you can
> > simply add th
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Pae Choi wrote:
If your software utilize the software under GPL license, you can
simply add those GPL licenses as well as make a note that you
are only selling, i.e. the price is only for your own software, your
own software, you should be fine.
Uh,
If your software utilize the software under GPL license, you can
simply add those GPL licenses as well as make a note that you
are only selling, i.e. the price is only for your own software, your
own software, you should be fine.
Just to pretect your own benefit, you can add a statment saying
that
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 14:59, Darney Lampert wrote:
>
> >Hi, I'm beginner in maillist and my english is limited..
> >
> >I want know about LEGAL MySQL software information.
> >On www.mysql.com page, in download section I read that:
> >
> >"You need to purchase commercial non-GPL MySQL licenses:
> >
Hi, I'm beginner in maillist and my english is limited..
I want know about LEGAL MySQL software information.
On www.mysql.com page, in download section I read that:
"You need to purchase commercial non-GPL MySQL licenses:
If you distribute MySQL Software with your non open source software,
If
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