Ciao a tutti,
ho appena installato gli rpm di php sulla mia Mandrake
7.2 ma provando a caricare una pagina di prova (che
chiama la funzione phpinfo();) non mi visualizza
nulla.
Apache e' installato (ho le librerie apache e
apache-common) e prima di effettuare il test ho
lanciato httpd
Ciao,
ho qualche problema con knapster 0.13. Una volta installato, se lo lancio
non parte: non trova una definizione. Qualcuno ha avuto lo stesso problema ?
(Versione 7.2). La 0.10 funziona. Ciao,
Alberto
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:17:27 +0100
Alberto Zanoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciao,
xine mi funziona bene, da quando ho messo la 7.2, pero' non riesco a
fare il
fullscreen, cioe' a vedere l'immagine a tutto schermo. Qualcuno che lo
usa sa
come fare ? Grazie,
Mi sembra di avere gi
Io ho un
Athalon Thunderbird 1000
IBM ATA 100 DTLA 307050
scheda madre V7
ASUS
quando installo la Mandrake 7.2 non mi riconosce
l'hard disk. E' possibile che questa versione di linux non mi veda il controlle
ATA 100?
Come posso installare la Mandrake 7.2 ovviando
questo problema?
E-mail
Io. Ne ho due copie, perche' in una ho impressione
che il primo cd sia un po' rovinato.
Comunque basta andare in edicola, sono allegati al
numero corrente di Linux c.
Se hai adsl te li posto sul mio
server.
Ciao.
Alberto
- Original Message -
From:
Asgro
To: Linux
On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 at 07:54:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chi ha i 2 CD della Mandrake 7.2?
Io perche'?... era insieme al primo nella rivista Linux C.
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http://www.tiscalinet.it
Alberto Zanoni wrote:
Ciao,
ho un problema nello scaricamento dei files rpm in rpmfind.net. Invece di
farmeli salvare su disco, mi mostra i files nella finestra di netscape. Come
posso fare per scaricarli ? Devo settare qualcosa ? Grazie,
Il 20:14, marted 30 gennaio 2001, scrivesti:
Ciao,
ho un problema nello scaricamento dei files rpm in rpmfind.net. Invece di
farmeli salvare su disco, mi mostra i files nella finestra di netscape.
Come posso fare per scaricarli ? Devo settare qualcosa ? Grazie,
Ok, verifico gli rpm e faccio un po' di prove con
apache.
Grazie 1000. Steo.
Hai controllato di avere installato il mod_php per
Apache? Magari
dovresti anche modificare /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
per adattarlo ...
(Io ho installato tuto la prima volta quindi non so
se lrpm fa anche
Il 22:36, martedì 30 gennaio 2001, scrivesti:
Alberto Zanoni wrote:
Ciao,
ho un problema nello scaricamento dei files rpm in rpmfind.net.
Invece di farmeli salvare su disco, mi mostra i files nella finestra di
netscape. Come posso fare per scaricarli ? Devo settare qualcosa ?
Dear Lanman and friends:
I HIGHLY recommend Okidata's Okipage 10e LASER PRINTER. I got it from
http://www.buy.com for nearly half price ($260 instead of $400).
Brand-new. Toners are also only half-price, around $16 (sixteen
dollars!) and last 2,000 pages (that's two thousand except the first
Gnapster Links for RPMs:
Source:
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/contrib/SRPMS/gnapster-1.4.2-1mdk.src.rpm
Bin:
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/contrib/RPMS/gnapster-1.4.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
Seve
Original Message
On 1/29/01, 7:02:52 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
Yo Bill set printer port to ECP (extended capabilities) ok in bios. I have
the same kind of printer and it printed that test page fine, but you should
stop it when it starts printing a waste of ink.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Barto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Linux Mandrake" [EMAIL
Yeah, I think they said something about disabling from inside the machine
instead of in windows and bios. Ill try that thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "s" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do i configure my xfree86
If I remember correctly, they are for the 2.4.0 kernel. (They got released
like two days after I used a patch for the 0.9-5 and installed them, so...)
If your using 2.2.17 or 2.2.18, and don't have the the i815 mobo you should
probably try the 0.9-5 drivers. If you have an i815 mobo, you will
In sort: KDE 2.1 Beta 2 is great!
All I did was download the RPMs and install them all at once using gnorpm.
After running "update-menus -v" and then rebooting, all was well. Konqueror
and Kmail are a bit quicker and more responsive than my previous installation
(CVS 20010115). Stability has
I am looking into which startup services I should enable/disable via the
Startup Services section of DrakConf. I am not too sure on whether I need
certain services and their descriptions (as given in DrakConf) are not too
helpful. The corresponding section in mandrakeuser.org doesn't seem to
I heard that Epsons are linux-friendly.
Hi, I have LM7.2 and the winfastTV capture card and I would like to watch
TV in LM7.2 but I try to configure it but I couldn't with the applications
in linux.
Somebody could set it up? Is there any web information for these card in linux?
Thanks in advance!!
This link might help guide you in the right direction.
http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html
Brigitte
At 01:34 PM 01/29/2001, you wrote:
I had to replace my Lexmark Z11 because it wouldn't work in Mandrake even
with the cooker drivers. So I got a Canon S450. It works but the
I have a Windows98 box connected to a LM7.2 Box over a crossover Cat5. I
connect to the internet from the Linux Box. I can happily surf using both the
machines.
Unfortunately I bought a Lexmark Z22, which works only with Windows. How do I
set up the printer on the Windows box, so that I can
On Tuesday 30 January 2001 08:31, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
Sevatio Octavio I heard that Epsons are linux-friendly.
I have an Epson Photo 750 and for the most part it works well in Linux except
for when I try to print from Kmail. It is always coming up with the last few
line of the page and the
I was in HardDrake seeing if my new network card was detected when I noticed
something about my SmartCard Reader that I never noticed before. This is what
it says in the infomation section of the device:
Informations: This device hasn't been identified by HardDrake, please send
`/proc/bus/*'
I'm running Gnome and Enlightenment and I'm trying to figure out how to
control which epplets are started automatically when I reboot/restart
Enlightenment. Is there a config file I can edit somewhere?
I'm trying to fix an annoying behaviour my Enlightment has with regard
to epplets.
Whenever I
Title: RE: [newbie] Printer recommendations
I had similar problem and solved it by changing to 90% on the page resolution, I think that was it .
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aaron Benedict
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:36 AM
Meph wrote:
I don't know anything about Silitek but the Plustek parallel port
scanners work very well with linux (even better than with windows because
the system is not blocked during scanning).
You should install the following rpms:
sane-1.0.4-1mdk
sane-frontends-1.0.4-1mdk
My cables are intact [i think]
The audio cds work fine in Windoze and the old Red Hat I recently disowned.
Mandrake is alot nicer..its just this one thing.
I hate switching my speakers from the back of my Linux box to the headphone jack.
By the way, is this important:
Primary
I have linux4win and its awesome.
Pardon me, but what's your problem again?
[oldie, but still a newbie] *8-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lnx4win is a bitch and no one knows how to fix my problem damn mandrake.com=
's technical support takes for every to answer email. So is suse, red hat ,=
I can play audio cds in Windoze and Red Hat.
Kmix is set to full.
I'm stumped.
[oldie, but still a newbie] *8-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may be having the same problem I had. Here's how to find out:
1. Have you been able to play audio CDs using another OS (i.e., Windows)?
2. Can you
I've done that already and my Window Managers all have sounds.
I can play MP3s with xmms but I can't play audiocds.
kscd reads the d**mn thing fine but no sound comes out.
I am running LM 7.1:
AMD k62-500
Via 82cxx (Apollo MVP4)sound [which works just fine]
64MB RAM
Maxell CDROM 52x
I read the
Type XF86config at the command line and dabble with it as root.
[oldie, but still a newbie] *8-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering how i could configure my xfree86. If you have the knowledge=
please tell me the whole command for doing this (i am a newbie:one day).=
=20
i want to do
Hi all,
When I click on a link in an email message, Netscape opens up and displays
the web page, but all the links in the web page are pointing to a local file
on my box instead of the proper file on the web site.
Let me give an example to try and better explain;
I recently clicked on the
Did you tryed the next command: artsdsp Kscd?
KDE 2.0 is using arts for the sound and still some applications are not
adapted to it. I had similar problems with various sound programs and now
most of them are working fine.
Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)
- Original Message -
From:
s escribi:
I had to replace my Lexmark Z11 because it wouldn't work in Mandrake even
with the cooker drivers. So I got a Canon S450. It works but the formatting
gets lost. Tired of messing with it.
So what printers can you guys recommend that is easily compatable and that
prints the way
Several recent posts regarding cd burning prompt this posting.
This page:
http://www.cdpage.com
led me to:
http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/
--
-michael-
yeah, I've tried XF86config. I've looked into the mobo and jumpers there
are only for resetting bios nothing about a jumper disabling i810. One
question I have is BusID. I looked under the documentation and it says
something about BusID. It is not very clear on how they setup "BusID
I have a Linux box(at school) on a peer-to-peer network with Win98 machines.
How can I set up Samba to share files with them and also be able to see
their shared drives? Thanks y'all!
The Moose
Hi there. I have in my box both Win and Mandrake 7.1 at the same H/D.
I want to install 7.2 and according to a lot of messages it is better to do
a fresh install rather than upgrading.
How do I go about this??
I start the installation of 7.2 select new install and when I get to the
partition side
On top of my previous question about LM 7.2 install, there is a possibility
that I will buy a second H/D . In that case I will use the entire H/D for
Linus and the other one for Win. Is there any way I can reclaim the space
that Linux used to be on H/D 1 and make it Fat 32 system without having a
Nope.
Be a slob. Change the timeout to 16 seconds and
forget about it :)
- Original Message -
From:
nlilly
To: Newbie
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:24
AM
Subject: [newbie] CD burning
mystery...
OK. So I've installed 7.2 on a machine that previously
Lanman wrote:
I had absolutely no problems with the HP930c Deskjet, if that helps.
Hooked it up, ran the Printer utility, and Bingo! Done.
Dan
On Monday 29 January 2001 13:34, you wrote:
I had to replace my Lexmark Z11 because it wouldn't work in Mandrake even
with the cooker
Why would it waste ink?
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "jas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] HP Deskjet 612C setup ?
Yo Bill set printer port to ECP (extended capabilities) ok in bios. I have
the same kind of
At 00:21 31.01.2001 -0800, you wrote:
Type XF86config at the command line and dabble with it as root.
theres also a command XF86Setup and Xconfigurator which provide a gui for
what XF86config does..i dont remember the the case of the command,
maybe its XF86setup or something.try
I have seen many posts on the archive, but could not find any response to
this.
I have disabled APM from the BIOS, and disabled it from X, from everywhere.
But the machine goes off, I don't know by which magic ?? This is really
annoying, because on the way, it completely freezes the system.
Are you attempting to get printing working with Cups by any chance? If
you are I feel your pain. I've stopped trying to use Cups altogether
for now at least and have been using Lpr successfully with no pain
involved. Everything prints with Lpr.
using a Canon BJC-6000
Will this work with a
Hi,
after a disasterous attempt to install kde2.0 i decided i had to reinstall
linux mandrake 7.1 from CD again. in an attempt to keep everything in /home
i only formatted the root partition and then reinstalled MD7.1. everything
seemed to befine until it was time to boot up, all i get is
Heeyyy, I just noticed Mozilla is on my computer. I never installed it
myself. But there is it, a new addition to my pan's enabled actions. I
couldn't resist the urge to use it when highlighting a link and it looks
pretty cool.
My question is: do you suppose it came with the new
I've got an eight year old HP 2P+ that works great with all flavors of
Linux!
I had to replace my Lexmark Z11 because it wouldn't work in Mandrake even
with the cooker drivers. So I got a Canon S450. It works but the formatting
gets lost. Tired of messing with it.
So what printers can
Hi,
You didn't mention it in your message, but did you modify your
XF86Config and XF86Config-4 files by replacing "nv" with "nvidia"? Based on
the output of lsmod it looks like X is still loading the old nv driver and
not the new one.
Also I have the 0.9-6 drivers working in 7.2 with the
Vic wrote:
Found it! Cool! Many thanks.
By the way, what does it do?
On Monday 29 January 2001 11:45 am, so spoke Michael O'Henly:
It's in the unsupported directory -- not in the 2.1 Beta 2 directory.
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/unsupported/i586
Excellent.
Mark,
I noticed that the file extensions appear to be different. I'll log in
as 'root' but I was wondering if I could download some the earlier
themes from the previous KDE versions. Will they still work?
The search on the kdethemes.org isn't too hot. I was trying to look up
themes for KDE2 and
Roman,
Thats all I use are the themes for the older versions. I.e. all the themes
for KDE before 2.0. Mostly I've been using themes for 1.1.2.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Tue, 30 Jan
not to worry. Abiword crashes on everyone. Mostly cause it's still in beta
and there are HUGE bugs in it yet. It's a nice looking app, but its not
quite there yet. They're working on it though.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing
ya ever notice how things are easier to "uninstall" in Linux as opposed
to "other" places?
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Romanator wrote:
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001
somebody please help i'm new
just updated rpm drake with the update utility in drake 7.2 over the internet
now when i try to use rpmdrake it tells me nfs files,
are not set correctly can any one help ??
please
keith
If you're talking about using Lpr it will indeed. At this point in Cups'
developement, as far as Canons are concerned at least, Lpr is still the
method of choice. At least for those who wish to retain more then 70% of
the sanity they were born with while they're still under the age of 80!
Please
Well darn it I wish they would-a done something like this for Canon
printers. How's come they're always the odd man out? it ain't fair!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jose
Mark Weaver wrote:
Roman,
Thats all I use are the themes for the older versions. I.e. all the themes
for KDE before 2.0. Mostly I've been using themes for 1.1.2.
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them
Mark Weaver wrote:
ya ever notice how things are easier to "uninstall" in Linux as opposed
to "other" places?
--
Mark
Yep. That's why I posted the uninstall. I still think it has this pukey
yellow title bar and border.
Nothing like it's Windose counterpart. shudder
--
Roman
Registered
I can not run 'sndconfig', where ?
- Original Message -
From: "Cyphfer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Intel 810 sound card cannot work ?!
Try running sndconfig from root. Hopefully it will clear up
Hello:
I was trying, once again, to setup NFS between two Linux boxes. I've
tried several times to make this work (they tell me it's easy) and now I
have a very important reason to do so now. My boss wants to see Linux in
action and part of that means on a network. I'm practicing here at home.
all i did to disable it was uninstall the drivers for it and disable it in
all hardware profiles. I did nothing in bio or change the jumpers.
- Original Message -
From: "s" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do i
Hi...
My admiration for Konqueror is boundless -- but I would really like to know
if there's an easy way to kill GIF animations.
Cheers.
M.
--
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design
I was just saying that the test page will waste ink cause all is shows is
two images and says test page complete.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Barto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] HP Deskjet 612C setup ?
Why
Hey Aaron,
I was in HardDrake seeing if my new network card was detected
when I noticed something about my SmartCard Reader that I
never noticed before. This is what it says in the infomation
section of the device:
Informations: This device hasn't been identified by HardDrake,
please
Uli,
I don't know anything about Silitek but the Plustek
parallel port scanners work very well with linux (even
better than with windows because the system is not blocked
during scanning).
You should install the following rpms:
sane-1.0.4-1mdk
sane-frontends-1.0.4-1mdk
Curt DeBlaey wrote:
I'm running Gnome and Enlightenment and I'm trying to figure out how to
control which epplets are started automatically when I reboot/restart
Enlightenment. Is there a config file I can edit somewhere?
Get out of E and edit ...e_session-XX.snapshots.0 in the
On Tuesday 30 January 2001 07:42 pm, Lee wrote:
I can not run 'sndconfig', where ?
Please, NO html, both y'all, plain text only. Thanks
'sndconfig' should be run as root ONLY from a level 3 terminal. That
means that X (-Windows) must NOT be running. This is very important, and
most
I just started using linux meaningfuilly. I would like to make my machine
as secure as possible. The first thing that I would like to do is
configure my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files. I am not exactly sure as
to how to configure them though. Could someone please send me an example
or give
I run sndconfig in a terminal under X. I login as a root.
On Mon, 29 January 2001, lqlee wrote:
my pc:
Intel 810 motherboard
celeron 466Hz
256M(1M for display ram)
Maxtor 30G
less /proc/pci:
Bus 0, devices 31, function 5:
Multimedia
I have installed Mandrake 7.2 on my second PC several times
over the past few weeks using various configurations and it
always crashes hard within a few minutes of use. After a
few minutes the vertical edges of windows become distorted
(slightly 'wavy') shortly after that the whole machine
Except for .tar.gz packages..
ya ever notice how things are easier to "uninstall" in Linux as opposed
to "other" places?
--
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
Since you've just started using Linux, I'm going to assume you don't
intend to use it as any kind of server. That makes this rather easy
actually.
Your /etc/hosts.deny should be nothing but the following line...
ALL : ALL
(Lines starting with # are okay, too.)
And your /etc/hosts.allow should
Dave Sherman wrote:
Hi all,
I got Samba running a few weeks ago, and just haven't had time to deal
with this issue until now. I noticed in konqueror, that there is a
Network icon ala Windows' Network Neighborhood. Under Network, there is
an icon for Windows Shares. Under Windows Shares,
Try deleting your ~/.mozilla directory, or move it to something like
.mozilla.old. Be sure to save your bookmarks.html file out of that though.
Having a little trouble with CompuPic and Mozila. Same problem with
both. They have been running fine for quite a while, since november,
and now
try startlevel = 3.
no X login
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Dawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2 crashes
I have installed Mandrake 7.2 on my second PC several times
over the past few
Oh my. Then that's definately your problem. Best method would be if there
are jumpers or dipswitches on the mobo. If none, disable it in the bios and
make sure if there is an entry for first video init, set it for pci/agp
rather than on-board. You must disable the onboard before you can
On Tuesday 30 January 2001 05:52 pm, Jason D. Williard wrote:
I just started using linux meaningfuilly. I would like to make my
machine as secure as possible. The first thing that I would like to do
is configure my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files. I am not exactly
sure as to how to
Hello,
I am pretty new to the linux environment, and I have a question. I have
installed linux mandrake 7.2 and updated the kernel to 2.4, with SMP
enabled. I am using a dual celeron motherboard, hence the SMP. I was
wondering if there is any way of explicitly telling if the dual processor
Just to clarify, the list I give for ntsysv are services that are OKAY.
Digital Wokan wrote:
Since you've just started using Linux, I'm going to assume you don't
intend to use it as any kind of server. That makes this rather easy
actually.
Your /etc/hosts.deny should be nothing but the
Ok now I get it.
I guess I was thinking of the www.linuxprinting.org
too-hard method, so you mean the linuxconf built-in
method (Big DUH on me!)
Dang, those canons must be weird, I never have bought one,
but many thanks for the warning, I do not now intend to get
a canon printer, I am glad I
On Tuesday 30 January 2001 08:55 pm, Lee wrote:
I run sndconfig in a terminal under X. I login as a root.
Well, did you notice the sndconfig WARNING not to run it "under X" ?
You were lucky on at least 2 counts, you got sound working, and you
didn't completely screw your X
I'm using PROZILLA on Mandrake 7.0 and 7.2works perfectly.
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Sunday 28 January 2001 06:03 pm, Romanator wrote:
Tom Brinkman wrote:
nt-1.19-1mdk.src.rpm (-- I always build src rpms from /contrib)
Size: 1063733 License: Free to
No, there seems no this command.
I ls /usr/bin , /usr/sbin, cannot found it, where it is?
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [newbie] Intel 810 sound card cannot
Dear Jason and friends:
Here is my configuration of /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow. Please
not that it's in all caps and make sure you configure the right file.
And, of course, you have to be root to configure it.
1)
[sher@sher sher]$ cat /etc/hosts.deny
#
# hosts.denyThis file
Linux keeps wanting to use NE2000/ne2k for my Realtek8029. Is this the correct
module?
I am trying ti install LM7.2 on my laptop and i just can't seem to get the
process started. I have the cd's on a local FTP/WEB site and they are also
sitting on the first partition (ntfs) of my hard drive.
I can't seem to access them anywhere. When i type in the path to the hard
drive
Yes. Unless it's a PCI card, in which case, it should /possibly/ be
ne2k-pci.
Bill Barto wrote:
Linux keeps wanting to use NE2000/ne2k for my Realtek8029. Is this the correct
module?
--
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior
Well, what's the alternative? The 440xx are 66 mhz buses (or maybe a 100).
Actually the only problem I've ever had with mine was when 2.2.17 didn't
support agpgart for it. Once the new kernel hit. Stable, fast, no
probs. I know the problems with the i820 and agree with you there, the
modprobe ne2k-pci.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Barto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Linux Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 1:06 PM
Subject: [newbie] Correct NIC module for Realtek8029?
Linux keeps wanting to use NE2000/ne2k for my Realtek8029. Is
Any hint on filters? I'm using S450 which I've read is really a BJC-6000
with a new fancier case. I think I may try Lpr since mine is not retaining
the format from the word processor through the printing process. So any info
about the filtering process would help as I've never had to define
It is currently set up as ne2k-pci but I can't get it set up to work. The @home
workorder has the following:
NIC Provider: @HOME: ISA
I think when it was installed last year they told me they had to use a "shared"
slot. Maybe that's why it's being detected as PCI?
eth0 doesn't even show up
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