RE: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-09 Thread Tango Echo
-Original Message- From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] I'm baaak! Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, Welcome

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 01:10, Lanman wrote: One thing that might be interesting is a larger variety of single CD versions of Mandrake built for specific type of installations. For example, a single CD of Mandrake Server with no more than two desktop environments, and the most popular services

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 3:59 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But, it's Christmas time, and Lanman is back. That means it's a great day! I can't think of a better list Christmas present. Or a funnier one. ;) Hi, Lanman. I was glad to see you back too - and by the way there are quite a few Canucks

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 4:33 am, KS wrote: I, personnally am sick of people that think thay have the right rto decide what is a good question and what is not. There are enough people who don't fit into that category. Just ignore those that do, and get on with life. Let's drop this, for sure

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 5:54 am, Lanman wrote: Something curious to note here ( at least for me ), is that I find that most of my clients are eager to learn when you take the time to teach them a few things, and to explain something in plain English instead of Techno-Babble. In truth, it's

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Lanman wrote: So, to make this easy on Joe, who has obviously become the List Nazi of the day, I will explain. Istop explanation... Since I have about 250 clients who rely on me to stay in contact with them, this was a priority for me, at least until my DNS server settings were updated with

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:44:43 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's drop this, for sure Joe will keep it going as long as anyone responds. Me??!! Lanman and Lyvim have been slagging me for hours now, and all I did was question his use of reply-to settings! For chrissakes, that

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Lanman
On 12/7/2003 at 8:23 AM JoeHill wrote: Lanman and Lyvim have been slagging me for hours now, and all I did was question his use of reply-to settings! This is fucking ridiculous, I get called bitch, I get laboriously and thoroughly flamed, and *I'm* the one who gets criticised. I've really had

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:14:05 -0500 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life's too short to get all worked up over a couple of bozos. Already done. But thanks. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ I have the

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 1:27 pm, Lanman wrote: You might be surprised to learn how many people think computers are intelligent, simply because they are so hard to learn ! I get that very often ! Once I explain that a significant amount of the complexity is due to the fact that computers are

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 1:23 pm, JoeHill wrote: I've really had just about enough of this place. I step out of line an inch and people are all over me. Lanman behaves like a raving madman and not a fuckin' peep of protest. Joe, first, you never stop out of line an inch. When you step out it

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread robin
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 5:54 am, Lanman wrote: Something curious to note here ( at least for me ), is that I find that most of my clients are eager to learn when you take the time to teach them a few things, and to explain something in plain English instead of Techno-Babble. In

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread robin
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 1:27 pm, Lanman wrote: You might be surprised to learn how many people think computers are intelligent, simply because they are so hard to learn ! I get that very often ! Once I explain that a significant amount of the complexity is due to the fact that

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Lanman
On 12/7/2003 at 10:25 PM robin wrote: Very true, and the problem is that once you've been messing with Linux for a while, you tend to forget what is technobabble and what isn't. As the semi-official techie for our office, I'm always answering questions with lines like Just FTP it to the

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 8:25 pm, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 5:54 am, Lanman wrote: Something curious to note here ( at least for me ), is that I find that most of my clients are eager to learn when you take the time to teach them a few things, and to explain

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-07 Thread Lanman
Eric; Glad to be back. Not to worry about tarnishing. It was obvious that you were trying to help. Thanks again. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/7/2003 at 5:31 PM Eric Huff wrote: Hey Eric; Thanks for the suggestions, instead of trying to disprove what's what. I

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Hey Lee ! How goes it? Whaddya mean Solve something ? Hell,..I already solved the square root of PI ! What else do you want? Grin! Oh, yeah, and I also figured out the meaning of Life ! It didn't take quite as long as PI, but I can now cross that off my list of things to do ! Grin! Lanman

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:12:51 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see this as a problem though, since both email addresses are in fact mine. The reply-to address is simply an alias which is capable of bypassing the filters. In other words, I can't use it as my primary account, only

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Not a problem Joe! I stocked up on Tylenol before rejoining the list ! I expect that within a week or so most of my contacts will have the new address and all will be solved. In the meantime, I'll just make sure that when someone does it to me, I'll use a previous post in the thread to

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:55 am, JoeHill wrote: Jo ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) Jo You're just mad 'cause you lost too many arguments to him! grin -- /\

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
LOL! LOL! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 8:58 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:55 am, JoeHill wrote: Jo ...and as far as Lyvim, that would be *growing down*... ;-) Jo You're just mad 'cause you lost too many arguments to him! grin --

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Done and Done! Man, you are t funny! I'm putting you into my will ! LOL! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 9:00 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 08:18 am, Lanman wrote: La Hey Lee ! How goes it? Whaddya mean Solve something ? Hell,..I

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Eric Huff
For starters, could you get rid of the reply-to? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:23:55 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] top posted: That's all well and good that *you* don't see it as a problem, unfortunately it causes headaches

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 06 December 2003 5:43 am, Lanman wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do !

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? I just communicated with another IStop user,

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Brandon Erik Bertelsen
Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. There's a whole bunch of great people on this list, and then there's Joe Hill. There's a bunch of people who know what they're talking about, and then there's Joe Hill. There a LOT of people who know

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Hey Eric; Thanks for the suggestions, instead of trying to disprove what's what. I honestly hadn't thought of that. Seems I was Pre-Occupied with the Joe-man! I'm only waiting for my new static IP to be propogated to the main DNS servers, and I think it's almost there. I'll remove the Reply-To

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Hey Carroll; Once again a list member comes thru with an idea, instead of trying to debase someone. Good idea. I'll certainly take it under advisement! Thanks Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 7:19 PM Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:54 pm,

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread robin
On 12/6/2003 at 7:19 PM Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:54 pm, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 07:21:10PM -0500, Lanman wrote: Well it's nice to know that some things haven't changed in the short time I've been away. Yes, you're still as annoying as ever. I plonked you once, but you got a new addy! Z Z Z Z Z Z Z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Welcome back Lanman! And a hearty Merry Christmas to you! So good to see you back on the lists. I do a scan from time to time to see what's going on, even if RL keeps me away alot here recently. This is one of those times. :) Your wit and humor is irreplaceable and always entertaining. Glad

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 13:54, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. Exactly. However

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Chargers
Too bad proper etiquitte couldn't be ' if you don't have any thing positive or helpful to say, DONT SAY ANYTHING' Ignorant responses is the reason I am only a viewer anfd not a participant 99.9 % of the time. :-( Eric Huff said the following, On 06/12/2003 11:26 AM: For starters, could you

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread JoeHill
On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about joedill/haywiremac, he's a newb that wants everyone to think he's an old timer, which he's not; he's just some recently-arrived troll that has been looking for a home and has managed to keep his fat mouth

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread JoeHill
On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal. Once again you made a bad choice. I don't sit

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Big Deal! I'm shaking in my boots! So much for putting your money where your mouth is. Put your control fetish back in the closet, and let's get back to what this list is all about. I'll send you the phone number for the local authorities in a little while, and we'll see where this leads to.

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread KS
So if you don't contribute get of of the newsgroup? If this is an elite group, let me know and I'm gone. There is no reason for people respond to messages with 'prick' ish replys. If you don't want to answer somebody's question, don't.. Somebody who is sympathetic to the individual's

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 07:43, Lanman wrote: Well Gang ! After a short hiatus while I dumped a crappy ISP, I'm back and ready to,..um, ...er,.. read emails, answer emails, cause and solve problems, and all the other things I normally do ! Grin! ! Grin ! Miss me? Hah ! Thought not! But

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread KS
Bravo Joe, You do what you have to do. I, personnally am sick of people that think thay have the right rto decide what is a good question and what is not. They obviously believe that they know the base knowledge level is, for a person to be able to switch from say, wondows linux. Ther eare a lot

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Another Canadian on the list eh? Welcome to the fray! Of course, if you've been here a long time already please disregard this emai. But still nice to see another Canuck on board ! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 11:23 PM KS wrote: So if you don't contribute

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread KS
Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn me off with their actions before I was willing to get a CLUB

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Not to worry KS ! Guys like you and I are always welcome. Well, you are anyways! Grin! No elitists would dare show their mugs on this list for fear of getting flamed by the Roust-abouts and Scallywags like myself, of which I suspect there are quite a few. Still, it is a list of passionate people,

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and number better not be in the phone book Pal.

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Jerry Barton
Plonk. Plonk. Fizz. Fizz. O! What a relief it is. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
On 12/6/2003 at 11:54 PM KS wrote: Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has started to turn me off with their actions before

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
Cute! Poetic too ! May I suggest that you Plonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well ? It would make your life a lot simpler. Just a thought. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 12/6/2003 at 10:11 PM Jerry Barton wrote: Plonk. Plonk. Fizz. Fizz. O! What a relief it is. -- _||_

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
On 12/7/2003 at 12:01 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance BITCH! For your sake your name and

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 00:10, Lanman wrote: On 12/6/2003 at 11:54 PM KS wrote: Been watching for a few years, but have never been willing to subject myself to a public stoning. I've been checking out Debian and its lists, it seems to be more friendly. Mandrake, while being a good distro has

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Greg
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/2003 at 12:01 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 23:08, JoeHill wrote: On 06 Dec 2003 22:59:07 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fed up with your crap Joe. The next time you challenge me, you'd better be ready to dance

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 00:27, Lanman wrote: Lyvim; Sounds like Christmas is coming early this year! Anyway, before this turns into another mess, I'd like to suggest that we just ignore him Lyvim. As fed up as I am, and as much as I'd love to take this guy down a peg or two, you know what?

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
On 12/7/2003 at 12:32 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I agree, Lanman. I have had problems with the decisions that were made with rpmdrake, but I've put those differences aside in view of the whole distro. I think Mandrake is the best desktop solution available for Linux. What's more, Red Hat seems to

Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!

2003-12-06 Thread Lanman
One thing that might be interesting is a larger variety of single CD versions of Mandrake built for specific type of installations. For example, a single CD of Mandrake Server with no more than two desktop environments, and the most popular services on it - ie; FTP, Apache, Postfix, Bind, Samba,