Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-19 Thread Stormjumper
- Original Message - From: The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 23:48 Subject: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions 09/06/03 Hello All, Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my hardware being

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-11 Thread robin
Michael Lothian wrote: Your best bet is going to be a motherboard that uses a via chipset (as apposed to an nvidea one) As these are very well supported under linux. Maybe your best going for a KT400 instead of the newer KT600 as linux is always a little behind in supporting new features. As

RE: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-09 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 01:11, Frankie wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 5:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions On Monday 08 Sep

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:23 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Me works for Tesco Tis a haneous villanious crime to even steal a tin of value beans Mike ;-) But is anyone that desperate g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 6:08 am, Frankie wrote: My great great .. great grandfather was shipped to Australia for being a highway robber I am told.. Careful what you say, Franki, you don't want Bill for a neighbourg Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-09 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:11:20 +0800 Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: both had very low return rates for dud ram, so as long as you take minor precautions, you don't need static straps, just leave the case plugged in, and touch the metal alot. Instead of saying touch wood I always say touch

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-09 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:35:00 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Careful what you say, Franki, you don't want Bill for a neighbourg ROTFLMAO! Good one... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Michael Lothian
The only problem with my SB Live with mandrake was 9.1 thinking it was an Audigy, Hardly Creatives fault. But out of interest what is the linux users choice for decent audio? Mike ed tharp wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 16:40, Michael Lothian wrote: For Intel cpu's, you're on your own.

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 6:33 am, Heather/Femme wrote: ya... knife or something will work... scrape off the crap. Alcohol on a qtip works sometimes. Let it dry of course. Grease it up way you go. Funky Femmes OK - I'll try to whip up the courage g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 18:54, Michael Lothian wrote: The only problem with my SB Live with mandrake was 9.1 thinking it was an Audigy, Hardly Creatives fault. But out of interest what is the linux users choice for decent audio? Mike The Academy of St. Martin in the field's symphony

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Michael Lothian
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 6:33 am, Heather/Femme wrote: ya... knife or something will work... scrape off the crap. Alcohol on a qtip works sometimes. Let it dry of course. Grease it up way you go. Funky Femmes OK - I'll try to whip up the courage g Oh yes you're

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 10:12 am, Michael Lothian wrote: Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound Look here for some ideas http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_Mat erials_27.html it even has the cleaner for your processor. Will do - I've heard

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 19:12, Michael Lothian wrote: Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound Look here for some ideas http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_Materials_27.html it even has the cleaner for your processor. Also where are you

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 10:59 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 19:12, Michael Lothian wrote: Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound Look here for some ideas http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_M aterials_27.html it even has

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 23:33:31 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Grease it up way you go. Oh, Femme, you're so romantic. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More:

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 21:40:20 +0100 Michael Lothian [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Nvidea what's so bad about Nvidia? I have seen far more probs with getting ATI to behave properly, never a peep about Nvidia... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 00:09, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 6:13 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: o Any decent heatsink and fan will do, but use thermal grease, not a thermal pad. Provide plenty of air movement (ie, case cooling). Often the thermal pad is already attached when

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 04:54, Michael Lothian wrote: The only problem with my SB Live with mandrake was 9.1 thinking it was an Audigy, Hardly Creatives fault. But out of interest what is the linux users choice for decent audio? I was referring to the upper corporate managements

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Michael Lothian
I remember seeing a ausie comedian at the fringe. She said Well if they sent all the criminals to australlia, where there's constant good weather, sand and sea, then just imagine how great the motherland must be Then she arrived in London. Poor thing lol Mike ;-) Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon,

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Marc
On Monday 08 September 2003 04:59 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: BTW, she lives in Pommieland with the Pommies - otherwise known as Untitled Kingdom or Brutish Isles; overcrowded overpopulated overpriced cold grey rainy - Oooo, what a nice place to live! Jellied Eels and washed up

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 00:21, Marc wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 04:59 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: BTW, she lives in Pommieland with the Pommies - otherwise known as Untitled Kingdom or Brutish Isles; overcrowded overpopulated overpriced cold grey rainy - Oooo, what a nice place to live!

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions Getting WAY OT

2003-09-08 Thread HaywireMac
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Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 11:25, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday September 7 2003 11:09 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 6:13 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: o Any decent heatsink and fan will do, but use thermal grease, not a thermal pad. Provide plenty of air movement (ie, case

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 02:12, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 18:54, Michael Lothian wrote: The only problem with my SB Live with mandrake was 9.1 thinking it was an Audigy, Hardly Creatives fault. But out of interest what is the linux users choice for decent audio?

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 04:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 12:04 pm, ed tharp wrote: and just a dab of grease will do to,, a lump might be to much and not transfer heat as well as just a film... I read that it must be complete coverage, but should be as thin as you can spread

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Heather/Femme
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:46:14 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 10:12 am, Michael Lothian wrote: Oh yes you're best to buy some Artic Silver III Thermal compound Look here for some ideas http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thermal_Mat

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday September 8 2003 11:27 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Most decent HS's now ship with grease, not pads. There's two big problems with pads. They're not as heat transfer efficent as grease, and they deteriorate fairly quickly. Often in just a few months. The hotter the processor runs,

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 4:25 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday September 7 2003 11:09 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 6:13 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: o Any decent heatsink and fan will do, but use thermal grease, not a thermal pad. Provide plenty of air movement (ie, case

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 3:54 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Really it should be the other way arround prisoner of her majesty (POHM)I belive. As the origional brittish settlers were criminals I belive. They had committed heinous crimes, like stealing a loaf of bread Anne -- Registered Linux User

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 3:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 00:21, Marc wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 04:59 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: BTW, she lives in Pommieland with the Pommies - otherwise known as Untitled Kingdom or Brutish Isles; overcrowded overpopulated

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 7:46 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday September 8 2003 11:27 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Most decent HS's now ship with grease, not pads. There's two big problems with pads. They're not as heat transfer efficent as grease, and they deteriorate fairly quickly. Often

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 5:08 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 04:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 12:04 pm, ed tharp wrote: and just a dab of grease will do to,, a lump might be to much and not transfer heat as well as just a film... I read that it must be

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 08 September 2003 02:46 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: whack Work on the system barefoot on a tile floor ... no static. Just touch the case every once'n a while to make sure you're discharged. A few beers doesn't hurt either, MOF it's a prerequisite. 'Sides, soon as I get to pushin

RE: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Frankie
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 5:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions On Monday 08 Sep 2003 3:54 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Really it should

RE: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-08 Thread Frankie
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 5:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions On Monday 08 Sep 2003 7:46 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday September

RE: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread John Hanagan
I have a PCCHIPS (crap board) PII 350 128 MB and MDK 9.1 works fine. --- On Sat 09/06, The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Other [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:48:28 -0500 Subject: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

RE: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread sstubbs
09/07/03 Hello All, The first time I installed MDK 9.1, it was in a dual-boot with Win95B and I put the files on the slave drive. The slave drive died. Then the next 2 1/2 months using all available free time was spent trying to get through another successful install. Didn't happen. And the

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Lothian
Your best bet is going to be a motherboard that uses a via chipset (as apposed to an nvidea one) As these are very well supported under linux. Maybe your best going for a KT400 instead of the newer KT600 as linux is always a little behind in supporting new features. As most motherboard

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 7, 2003 07:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 1:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there were only 7 Mandrake Tested motherboards. I'm running down those right now to see what they're like. Regards, The Other

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday September 7 2003 09:39 am, Michael Lothian wrote: Your best bet is going to be a motherboard that uses a via chipset (as apposed to an nvidea one) As these are very well supported under linux. Maybe your best going for a KT400 instead of the newer KT600 as linux is always a little

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Lothian
For Intel cpu's, you're on your own. IMO, there hasn't been a decent chipset for Intel processors since the good ol' 440BX. Probly best to use an Intel Retail (not OEM) board for P4's to be on the safe side. Let's be honest. Nvidea, Intel and AOL are all just as bad as Windows. Just for

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 16:40, Michael Lothian wrote: For Intel cpu's, you're on your own. IMO, there hasn't been a decent chipset for Intel processors since the good ol' 440BX. Probly best to use an Intel Retail (not OEM) board for P4's to be on the safe side. Let's be honest.

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread sstubbs
For Intel cpu's, you're on your own. IMO, there hasn't been a decent chipset for Intel processors since the good ol' 440BX. 09/07/03 Thanks Anne for the motherboard text file, and to the others who have already replied and to those about to reply. Tom, My ASUS P2B is using the Intel

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 5:21 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Since Anne included some of my insanity in that attachment I guess I'm entitled to an opinion. ;) Since I hope to build again in a few weeks, that one gets filed, too g Thanks, Charlie. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 6:13 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: o Any decent heatsink and fan will do, but use thermal grease, not a thermal pad. Provide plenty of air movement (ie, case cooling). Often the thermal pad is already attached when you buy the components. Is there a way of cleaning

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 7, 2003 10:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 5:21 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Since Anne included some of my insanity in that attachment I guess I'm entitled to an opinion. ;) Since I hope to build again in a few weeks, that

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-07 Thread Heather/Femme
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 05:09:12 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 Sep 2003 6:13 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: o Any decent heatsink and fan will do, but use thermal grease, not a thermal pad. Provide plenty of air movement (ie, case cooling). Often the thermal pad is

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-06 Thread David E. Fox
Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my hardware being below minimum specs for 9.1 Stephen - is it really the hardware -- do you get install failures -- or do you think that maybe some of the programs require too much CPU and/or memory? For instance, you should be

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-06 Thread Eric Huff
Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my hardware being below minimum specs for 9.1 My current hardware: ASUS P2B motherboard with 350MHz PII and 128MB Ram So I have two options: 1) locate a previous distribution of MDK that will work with this 1998

Re: [newbie] Request Motherboard and CPU suggestions

2003-09-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 5:20 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Perhaps the problems I was having installing MDK 9.1 was due to my hardware being below minimum specs for 9.1 My current hardware: ASUS P2B motherboard with 350MHz PII and 128MB Ram So I have two options: 1) locate a previous