Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-11 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday June 10 2003 07:22 pm, JoeHill wrote: So I kind'a believe the problem is on your end ; Anyhow, M$RTF doesn't bother me, as long as winsux users don't use it's M$ only gimmicks. heeey, waitaminnit, it shows up in yer sent folder that way cuz it doesn't have the list

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 9 2003 04:33 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Hows this? X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 | | Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_1055194127-2727-823 Which means it Windoze RTF, and not plain text. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:20:01 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 | | Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_1055194127-2727-823 Which means it Windoze RTF, and not plain text. ah, not necessarily, that

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday June 10 2003 02:26 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:20:01 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=_1055194127-2727-823 Which means it Windoze RTF,

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:33:30 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: So I kind'a believe the problem is on your end ; Anyhow, M$RTF doesn't bother me, as long as winsux users don't use it's M$ only gimmicks. but Sylpheed ain't even capable of anything other than plain

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:33:30 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: So I kind'a believe the problem is on your end ; Anyhow, M$RTF doesn't bother me, as long as winsux users don't use it's M$ only gimmicks. heeey, waitaminnit, it shows up in yer sent folder that way cuz it

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-10 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 09 June 2003 05:33 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Hows this? (To HTML Ranter) Thank you. -- cmg (one of several HTML Ranters) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread MARTIN HENDRIK RAD
I've been using Linux and Windows side-by-side (work/home) for a couple of years now. I've moved on from Mandrake 8.0 to 9.1, but I've never moved on to WinXP. So I was curious to see what it looks like when my father-in-law got it. Guess what! WinXP is for dummies! At least, that's what it looks

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread Cody Harris
At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the hell all of those packages were in the individual package

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 11:30 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:01:48 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: yes i call that sacriledge! Appropriating lesbian themes/icons/etc will be penalized by death!!! or castration... whichever comes first I enjoy more. :D I'll take the death, thank you...but can I see the Lesbian pr0n

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread Charlie
quoting Anne Wilson's missive of Monday 09 June 2003 04:41 am: whack Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. Cody; If I recall correctly that machine is your server? How much more than 'just server' packages did you

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread Cody Harris
At 12:10 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Anne Wilson's missive of Monday 09 June 2003 04:41 am: whack Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. Cody; If I recall correctly that machine is your server? How much more

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:05 PM 6/9/2003 +0300, you wrote: snip I install Linux a lot because: 1. I like to break things. 2. It's often quicker to reinstall the system than work out how to fix it. When our department bought us a CD-Writer, I spent a while trying to configure it, then thought This is boring and did a

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread N. B. Day
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:56, Cody Harris wrote: Hack away all the HTML crap Cody, if you're going to quote _all_ of several messages and include a one sentence reply, please stop the HTML or get another mailer or start using linux or at least snip some of it. On the weekends I'm on pay by the

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-09 Thread ed tharp
g Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. so Cody, on that same box, how long did it take to install windows XP? (and include office XP) I would bet... lets see.,...,,, 4ever? as XP, ME, and 2kpro ain't installing

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 11:13, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.) Features 7.) Multifunctionality without

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 15:57, Michael Viron wrote: Just a thought, but keep in mind how much easier things have become. I'm not sure how many old-timers are on the list, but it used to be that in order to do just about anything, you had to compile it yourself. Slackware's FIRST release.

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread RichardA
On 08 Jun 2003 15:15:44 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ONLY OS that's brainlessly installed is MacOS. Wait, sorry, I used to so Solaris setups on Sparcs, and that was BRAINLESS as well - I only had to know how to configure the networking - which I had to say yes to DHCP and

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Cody Harris
At 03:21 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 11:13, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.)

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Cody Harris
At 03:15 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:56, Cody Harris wrote: I think that's where someone should step in and make it usable to the average non-computer literate person. It took my awhile to learn how to do things. I think that could be solved with a little more

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 01:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:56, Cody Harris wrote: I think that's where someone should step in and make it usable to the average non-computer literate person. It took my awhile to learn how to do things. I think that could be solved with a

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Cody Harris
At 04:13 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 15:57, Michael Viron wrote: Just a thought, but keep in mind how much easier things have become. I'm not sure how many old-timers are on the list, but it used to be that in order to do just about anything, you had to compile it

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Robin Turner
The Other wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:07 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris 06/07/03 1. My current system was designed from components I selected

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 21:47, Adolfo Bello wrote: Excellent, Stephen. It is going to be part of my arsenal when speaking about Linux. Very nice! Muchas gracias, amigo. Appreciated greatly. -- Sun Jun 8 22:10:00 EST 2003 22:10:00 up 1 day, 8:01, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.04

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 21:48, Cody Harris wrote: What's slackware? SLACKWARE is yet another distribution. Actually, one of the first. Now, in the true sense of having humour, there should be Bludgeware, RedNeck Linux, Susie LINUX, Mandracula, Debbie does LINUX, UnUnited LINUX, Spindows, One

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Robin Turner
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 11:13, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.) Features 7.) Multifunctionality without overhead

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Jason
Not XPSpecific but Nope, it's not about money. I could drone on about all of the GREAT things about Linux and OSS (Open Source Software) in general but that has been covered by the list already. All I can say is he should try it, I mean really try it. Try it for 6 months. He should try to

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 08:57, Robin Turner wrote: Hey, how did my name get in there? Sir Robin ROTFLMAO Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday June 8 2003 12:15 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Look, 90% of the world DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WINDOWS - they buy a computer with Windows already installed. IF they had to install it themselves, it's a tough go - especially on a machine that requires all kinda special drivers and

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:43:04 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Alright you, where's the real Stephen an what did you do to 'em? You can't post logical stuff to this list an try'n pretend you're Stephen. I'm wise to ya bub ; I was gonna say, he did sound

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread eric huff
Linux has made great strides to become useable for the average user, and it will continue to do so. Regardless, for virtually every windows program, there is some piece of equivalent software in some phase of development that is free. It has made great strides, for sure. One area where there

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Charlie
quoting Cody Harris's missive of Saturday 07 June 2003 06:56 pm: whack Mild rant alert! Please excuse. On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:07 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:57, Robin Turner wrote: Hey, how did my name get in there? Sir Robin I needed a scapegoat (g) -- Mon Jun 9 08:55:00 EST 2003 08:55:00 up 1 day, 18:46, 3 users, load average: 0.77, 0.30, 0.10 - |

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 01:43, Tom Brinkman wrote: Alright you, where's the real Stephen an what did you do to 'em? You can't post logical stuff to this list an try'n pretend you're Stephen. I'm wise to ya bub ; Sorry, I was suffering from a slight bout of philanthropy. -- Mon Jun

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:21 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: Sir Robin and I are going to market this new distro. From the beginning of the installation all through it's casual usage, it's aimed at being totally pr0n centred - even the themes are pr0n based. Not only does it come with all the normal bells and

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:17:28 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I hope you make a lesbian friendly one too! :D I think that version might be just as popular with the straight males! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 19:31:08 up 5 days,

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Charlie
quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the hell all of those packages were in the individual package selection type install, then deciding

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:17, FemmeFatale wrote: I hope you make a lesbian friendly one too! :D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt ...and one dedicated to Priscilla: Queen of the Desert -- Mon Jun 9 10:05:00 EST 2003 10:05:00 up 1 day, 19:56, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.09

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:32 PM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:17:28 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I hope you make a lesbian friendly one too! :D I think that version might be just as popular with the straight males! -- Joehill yes i call that sacriledge! Appropriating lesbian

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread FemmeFatale
At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip Usually. Unless the user screwed something up at the summary screen. We all know who we are, don't we? :-) OK now you're just pointing fingers Don't blame me! So i reinstall linux

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-08 Thread FemmeFatale
At 10:10 AM 6/9/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:17, FemmeFatale wrote: I hope you make a lesbian friendly one too! :D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt ...and one dedicated to Priscilla: Queen of the Desert damn rights! my g/f would buy that in 30 seconds. :D

RE: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread walt
1) runs faster 2) takes up less hard drive space 3) takes less time to load on to your computer and you practically have everything you need without loading a lot of other programs on it 4) dont need to keep rebooting From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Steven Broos
That's a very personal matter... But I'll give you my quick top-5: (didn't think of it for a long time, so please don't take it too serious) First of all, M$ is about money, Linux is about quality and consumer/user-needs. Linux distro's and most of the applications are FREE! Windows is kinda

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 08:07, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Cody Harris
At 03:32 PM 6/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:15, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 08:07, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris

RE: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Steven Broos
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 00:18, walt wrote: 1) runs faster 2) takes up less hard drive space 3) takes less time to load on to your computer and you practically have everything you need without loading a lot of other programs on it 4) dont need to keep rebooting I

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Robin Turner
Steven Broos wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 00:18, walt wrote: 1) runs faster Questionable.Depending on how your Linux system is set up (services, wm etc.), XP may well run faster. 2) takes up less hard drive space Again, that depends on your system. 3) takes less time to load on

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread The Other
On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:07 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris 06/07/03 1. My current system was designed from components I selected in the Spring

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Cody Harris
At 07:44 PM 6/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:07 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris 06/07/03 1. My current system was designed from

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.) Features 7.) Multifunctionality without overhead cost 8.) Performance 9.) Installation time 10.)

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 08:33, Cody Harris wrote: True, but sometimes in the morning you don't want to excersize. lol. I have several different logins to my system. I have a desktop/window manager environment for JUST DOING. It works, it's already setup and tweaked to my liking, I think of

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 08:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.) Features 7.) Multifunctionality without overhead cost 8.) Performance 9.) Installation time 10.)

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Scott Thayer
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 19:44:49 -0500 The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:07 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Can someone come up with a few good reasons to switch from XP to Linux? Someone wants to know the pros and cons and why he should switch. -Cody Harris 06/07/03

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:56, Cody Harris wrote: I think that's where someone should step in and make it usable to the average non-computer literate person. It took my awhile to learn how to do things. I think that could be solved with a little more automation and not painstakingly doing

Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux

2003-06-07 Thread Michael Viron
Just a thought, but keep in mind how much easier things have become. I'm not sure how many old-timers are on the list, but it used to be that in order to do just about anything, you had to compile it yourself. My first experience was with Slackware 3.x, and believe me, it was many times more