I prefer to give people their ad revenue for their hard work ;)
-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
On 4 Oct 2010 at 9:09, Sam Cayze wrote:
Oops, wrong
Oops, wrong one!
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/
-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Related OT: http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100310
Hey! I resemble that remark! :-)
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Oops
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote:
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/
I prefer:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/58fc/zoom
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
Beautiful! And so timely.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com
wrote:
http
On 4 Oct 2010 at 9:09, Sam Cayze wrote:
Oops, wrong one!
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/
I much prefer the flashing-gif-ad-free version
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/consulting-consultant.gif
--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security
Related OT: http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100310/
-Original Message-
From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
I am jumping in here late but..
If you cannot restore your data
consultants will have a preferred solution.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Ok... good point. How about Ensure that the data is always easily
of the furnaces offline would cost a
similar amount of money.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 5:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Dude. So, what they are like a $50
, 2010 11:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things.
How quickly does something have to be up?
How much data can you afford to lose?
E.g. there may be no point getting something back up again in 1 hour if the
newest
.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things.
How quickly does something have to be up?
How much
with
Management about how much they're willing to risk and how quickly they
need
to get it all back.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Look up RTO and RPO
From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 11:12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Consultants
*facepalm*
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Aldrich jaldr
, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things.
How quickly does something have to be up?
How much data can you afford to lose?
E.g. there may be no point getting something back up again in 1 hour
back.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things.
How quickly does something have to be up
-
From: William Robbins
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Consultants
*headdesk*
- WJR
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:12, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
*facepalm*
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48
Exactly, which is something I need to sit down with Management to find out.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
OK. To get low RTO means have a fast
Dude...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:
I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN. I
advised that I had decided to step back and look for a consultant to help
me
figure out what my needs are. At that point the
Every sales guy is a consultant - albeit, a biased one.
Roger Wright
___
When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
nothin' like it!
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:
I got a call from an IBM reseller in the
+11
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:52, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:
Dude...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN.
I
advised that I had decided to
Answering your question. have you considered Hitachi?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:
Dude...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me
Or Dell/EMC for that matter. They have lots of consultant expertise, as
well as the hardware.
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:06, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:
Answering your question. have you considered Hitachi?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Link
You should never be having the vendor being also the consultant. A most best
approach is for getting an independant consulant like my firm, Hanji
Enterprises.
UR Friend,
Amit
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:
I got a call from an IBM reseller in
Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a
company work, a society work, a civilization work. -Vince Lombardi
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:09 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Consultants
Or Dell/EMC for that matter. They have lots of consultant expertise, as
well as the hardware.
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:06, Jonathan Link jonathan.l
the options again, including Hitachi, EMC,
Equallogic, LeftHand, etc. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
Answering your question. have you considered Hitachi?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1
Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Consultants
If you have have a VMware environment, EMC might be a good choice too since
they are now partners.
Regards,
Scott
---
Scott Wilhelm
Computer Technician
Massena Central School District
St. Lawrence-Lewis BOCES
(315) 764-3700
.
--
*From: * Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us
*Date: *Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:12:10 -0400
*To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *RE: Consultants
If you have have
-software.com
*ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *RE: Consultants
If you have have a VMware environment, EMC might be a good choice too
since they are now partners.
Regards,
Scott
---
Scott Wilhelm
Computer Technician
Massena
.
--
*From: *Wilhelm, Scott swilh...@mcs.k12.ny.us
*Date: *Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:12:10 -0400
*To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *RE: Consultants
If you have have a VMware environment
Consultants are useful, provided you can find and *independent* consultant.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find one. This
message will self-destruct in 5 seconds.
On 9/29/2010 12:49 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
What is the opinion of you folks on the list about hiring
How does one independant a consultant exactly? They've already sold their
soul.
Oh and...
*BOOM*
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:23, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
Consultants are useful, provided you can find and *independent* consultant.
Your mission, should you choose to
,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
How does one independant a consultant exactly? They've already sold their
soul.
Oh
If you're going to entertain the manufacturer's 'consultant', then you
should be fair and open up the request to other vendor's equipment and their
'consultants' too.
In my freelance consulting, I try very hard to never, never sell hardware
unless the client has an urgent need and no other
...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:26 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Consultants
How does one independant a consultant exactly? They've already sold
their soul.
Oh and...
*BOOM*
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:23, Phil Brutsche p
Amit, you are spot on as always!
-sc
From: Amit Hanji [mailto:amit.ha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
You should never be having the vendor being also the consultant. A most
best approach is for getting
Thanks for the serious reply. That was my feeling as well, but I thought I
better check. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
Consultants are useful
Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking about
hiring consultants?
Why not just invite in a bunch of VAR's, go through your needs and ask them to
quote on a solution?
And to echo others thoughts, manufacturers will obviously have an agenda,
resellers will have
an independent 3rd party to come up with a D/R plan.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: Consultants
Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're
/R
plan.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: Consultants
Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking
about hiring consultants
, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: Consultants
Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking
about hiring consultants?
Why not just invite in a bunch of VAR's, go through your needs and ask
them to quote on a solution?
And to echo
Generally, if you know what you want and you just need to bounce some ideas
around, I'd give you my guys time for free to tweak the end solution, with
the belief that we'd be doing the implementation. If you wanted them to
actually start from a blank slate, do a requirements gathering, and design
No that never happens. *shudders*
Thanks,
Mathew
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
Until it actually breaks and the CEO is screaming about it not being back up
and running
I'm not saying don't get good advice, but I am suggesting don't necessarily
rush into paying someone to come in and put together a plan.
I'm also looking for a replacement SAN, my approach has been to look at
options, which has come down to researching the hell out of them via the
Ok... good point. How about Ensure that the data is always easily
recoverable within a few days. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
I'll remind you that you said the CEO said
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
I'll remind you
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
I'll remind you that you said the CEO said you have a few
, but if
the whole facility is destroyed, a SAN isn't going to save my bacon. :-)
I need a good D/R consultant to help me with all these questions. :-)
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re
.
*Erik Goldoff***
*IT Consultant*
*Systems, Networks, Security *
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Consultants
and you get the idea...
Dave
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Ok... good point. How about Ensure that the data is always easily
recoverable within
-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Ok... good point. How about Ensure that the data is always easily
recoverable within a few days. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l
Subject: RE: Consultants
Ok... good point. How about Ensure that the data is always easily
recoverable within a few days. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
I'll remind you
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Exactly. I'm not sure what my requirements are. I have a few ideas
/
CRM software runs on that platform and without that we have no idea what to
make or where to ship it, etc. :-(
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
But theres the rub
a good Business
Exactly. I want to get things up and running on the Windows side ASAP, but
that's not *as* critical as our AS/400.
-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Sure
[mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a
consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are
My $0.02Forget hiring
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a
consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are
Forget hiring a consultant for now ... You need to sit down with
Agreed.
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com
wrote:
I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire
a consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs
are
Forget hiring a consultant
://theessentialexchange.com/
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Consultants
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I'm not sure
with access to all data.
Their HA/FT/DR costs are a lot less than the first customer.
Webster
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: RE: Consultants
I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a
consultant/consulting engineer to help me
and running with access to all data with “2 to 4 hours”. After April 30,
they have a 5 day timeframe to be back running with access to all data.
Their HA/FT/DR costs are a lot less than the first customer.
Webster
*From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
*Subject:* RE
: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to the
disaster recovery center. They had calculated downtime as costing them just
over $100,000 per minute! They spent almost $10,000,000
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote:
I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to the
disaster recovery center. They had calculated downtime as costing them just
over $100,000 per minute! They spent almost $10,000,000 getting their
Let's just say the last 2 to 3 years have kept them extremely busy and
profitable.
Webster
-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: RE: Consultants
Dude. So, what they are like a $50 Billion company (if not more?)
~ Finally
[mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Consultants
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote:
I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to
the disaster recovery center. They had calculated downtime as costing
them just over $100,000 per
5:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Where they are located, if something bad starts to happen, they don't have
2 hours to failover to the DR site. If their main data center is still
standing and receiving utilities in 31 seconds they will consider themselves
very lucky
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
Where they are located, if something bad starts to happen, they don't have
2 hours to failover to the DR site. If their main data center is still
standing and receiving utilities in 31 seconds they will
Yeah, we never sell hardware. The closest I get to that is providing
links to CDW for what we recommend. That way the customer never thinks
we are going with a product just because we get a cut. The one
exception would be VoIP handsets. We did jump through the certification
hoops to sell
My $0.02 is there are a number of very good consultants and service
companies on this list that may or may not have a bias toward one hardware
vendor or another but the good consultants and service companies whatever
bias they have will generally tell you up front their bias and then proceed
to do
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 4:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Thanks, Jonathan. I think I have some handle on some of that. I know pretty
much everything depends on the AS/400 (iSeries) as our
September 2010 5:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consultants
Dude. So, what they are like a $50 Billion company (if not more?)
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com
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