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I prefer to give people their ad revenue for their hard work ;) -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants On 4 Oct 2010 at 9:09, Sam Cayze wrote: > O

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On 4 Oct 2010 at 9:09, Sam Cayze wrote: > Oops, wrong one! > http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/ I much prefer the flashing-gif-ad-free version http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/consulting-consultant.gif -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blo

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Beautiful! And so timely. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote: > http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/

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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Sam Cayze wrote: > http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/ I prefer: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/58fc/zoom -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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Hey! I resemble that remark! :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Oops

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Oops, wrong one! http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100210/ -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 11:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Related OT: http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100310

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Related OT: http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100310/ -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants I am jumping in here late but.. If you cannot restore your data in

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consultants will have a preferred solution. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Ok... good point. How about "Ensure that the data is always e

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Exactly, which is something I need to sit down with Management to find out. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants OK. To get low RTO means have a fast

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ssage - From: William Robbins To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Consultants *headdesk* - WJR On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:12, Jonathan Link wrote: *facepalm* On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Al

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Perfect! On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Pete Howard wrote: > > > -- > *From:* Jonathan Link > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Sent:* Thu, September 30, 2010 11:12:42 AM > *Subject:* Re: Consultants > > *facepalm* > > > >

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o:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things. How quickly does something have to be up? How much data can you afford to lose? E.g. there may be no po

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From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 11:12:42 AM Subject: Re: Consultants *facepalm* On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Aldrich wrote: Yeah. I'm aware of those two terms, and depending on the system

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t;> How to accomplish that good question, and I need to double-check with >> Management about how much they're willing to risk and how quickly they >> need >> to get it all back. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ken Schaefer [ma

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o get it all back. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:30 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Consultants > > Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related)

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ptember 29, 2010 11:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Look up RTO and RPO - they are two distinct (though related) things. How quickly does something have to be up? How much data can you afford to lose? E.g. there may be no point getting something back up again in 1 hour if

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once. Having one of the furnaces offline would cost a > similar amount of money. > > Cheers > Ken > > -Original Message- > From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 5:02 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subje

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sday, 30 September 2010 5:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Dude. So, what they are like a $50 Billion company (if not more?) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.

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Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 4:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Thanks, Jonathan. I think I have some handle on some of that. I know pretty much everything depends on the AS/400 (iSeries) as our

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My $0.02 is there are a number of very good consultants and service companies on this list that may or may not have a bias toward one hardware vendor or another but the good consultants and service companies whatever bias they have will generally tell you up front their bias and then proceed to do

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Yeah, we never sell hardware. The closest I get to that is providing links to CDW for what we recommend. That way the customer never thinks we are going with a product just because we get a cut. The one exception would be VoIP handsets. We did jump through the certification hoops to sell Po

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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: >> Where they are located, if something "bad" starts to happen, they don't have >> 2 hours to failover to the DR site. If their main data center is still >> standing and receiving utilities in 31 seconds they will consider themselves

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29, 2010 5:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Where they are located, if something "bad" starts to happen, they don't have 2 hours to failover to the DR site. If their main data center is still standing and receiving utilities in 31 seconds they will consid

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> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: Consultants > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Webster wrote: > > I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to > > the disaster recovery center.  They had calculated downtime as cost

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Let's just say the last 2 to 3 years have kept them extremely busy and profitable. Webster > -Original Message- > From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] > Subject: RE: Consultants > > Dude. So, what they are like a $50 Billion company (if no

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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Webster wrote: > I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to the > disaster recovery center.  They had calculated downtime as costing them just > over $100,000 per minute!  They spent almost $10,000,000 getting their > HA/FT/DR stuff setu

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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants I had 1 client that had to be back up and running within 30 seconds to the disaster recovery center. They had calculated downtime as costing them just over $100,000 per minute! They spent almost $10,000

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rom:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] > *Subject:* RE: Consultants > > > > "*I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a > consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are*" > > > > M

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nning with access to all data. Their HA/FT/DR costs are a lot less than the first customer. Webster From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Subject: RE: Consultants "I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a consultant/consult

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ialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:43 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Consultants > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonatha

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Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: >> I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire >> a consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs >> are > > Forge

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Agreed. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject

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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: >> I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a >> consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are > > Forget hiring a consultant for now ... You need to sit down with the > business o

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onathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants "I'm not sure what my requirements are which is why I want to hire a consultant/consulting engineer to help me figure out what my needs are"

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Exactly. I want to get things up and running on the Windows side ASAP, but that's not *as* critical as our AS/400. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Sure

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/ CRM software runs on that platform and without that we have no idea what to make or where to ship it, etc. :-( From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants But there’s the rub … a good Business

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ator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Exactly. I'm not sure

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t.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:10 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Consultants >> >> Ok... good point. How about "Ensure that the data is always easily >> recoverable within a few days." :-) >> >> >> >&g

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Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Ok... good point. How about "Ensure that the data is always easily recoverable within a few days." :-) From: Jo

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Think of the NAS as "expendable" backup storage and you get the idea... Dave -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Consultants Ok... good point

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IT decision. > > > > *Erik Goldoff*** > > *IT Consultant* > > *Systems, Networks, & Security * > > ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, Septem

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not going to save my butt in case of a disaster. It might help prevent data loss, but if the whole facility is destroyed, a SAN isn't going to save my bacon. :-) I need a good D/R consultant to help me with all these questions. :-) From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: W

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Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants I'll remind you that you said the

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Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants I

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Ok... good point. How about "Ensure that the data is always easily recoverable within a few days." :-) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants I'll remind you that y

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I'm not saying "don't get good advice", but I am suggesting don't necessarily rush into paying someone to come in and put together a plan. I'm also looking for a replacement SAN, my approach has been to look at options, which has come down to researching the hell out of them via the documentati

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No that never happens. *shudders* Thanks, Mathew From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants Until it actually breaks and the CEO is screaming about it not being back up and running. On

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Generally, if you know what you want and you just need to bounce some ideas around, I'd give you my guys time for free to tweak the end solution, with the belief that we'd be doing the implementation. If you wanted them to actually start from a blank slate, do a requirements gathering, and design

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>> with a D/R plan. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: re: Consultants >> >>

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s hire an independent 3rd party to come up with a D/R > plan. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: re: Consultants > > Not s

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ing to do is hire an independent 3rd party to come up with a D/R plan. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: Consultants Not sure if it differs in the US but I'

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Not sure if it differs in the US but I'm a bit unsure why you're talking about "hiring" consultants? Why not just invite in a bunch of VAR's, go through your needs and ask them to quote on a solution? And to echo others thoughts, manufacturers will obviously have an agenda, resellers will have

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Thanks for the serious reply. That was my feeling as well, but I thought I better check. :-) -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants Consultants are useful

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Amit, you are spot on as always! -sc From: Amit Hanji [mailto:amit.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants You should never be having the vendor being also the consultant. A most best approach is for getting an

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om* > > * * > > *c – 312.731.3132* > > * * > > *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:26 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Consultants > > > > How does one "independant" a c

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If you're going to entertain the manufacturer's 'consultant', then you should be fair and open up the request to other vendor's equipment and their 'consultants' too. In my freelance consulting, I try very hard to never, never sell hardware unless the client has an urgent need and no other avenue,

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upsell that. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants How does one "independant" a consultant exactly? They'v

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How does one "independant" a consultant exactly? They've already sold their soul. Oh and... *BOOM* - WJR On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:23, Phil Brutsche wrote: > Consultants are useful, provided you can find and *independent* consultant. > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to

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Consultants are useful, provided you can find and *independent* consultant. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find one. This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds. On 9/29/2010 12:49 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > What is the opinion of you folks on the list about hiring consultant

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"things" my guys deploy every week. >>> -- >>> *From: *"Wilhelm, Scott" >>> *Date: *Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:12:10 -0400 >>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues >>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >>&

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00 >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> *Subject: *RE: Consultants >> >> If you have have a VMware environment, EMC might be a good choice too >> since they are now p

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my guys deploy every week. > -- > *From: * "Wilhelm, Scott" > *Date: *Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:12:10 -0400 > *To: *NT System Admin Issues > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" < > ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > *Subject: *RE: Consultants > > If you

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As are IBM and VMware. That particular pairing is one of the main "things" my guys deploy every week. -Original Message- From: "Wilhelm, Scott" Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" Subject: RE: C

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ltant, to go back and re-investigate all the options again, including Hitachi, EMC, Equallogic, LeftHand, etc. :-) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consultants Answering your question. have you

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a team > work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work." -*Vince > Lombardi > > > > *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:09 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Consultants > >

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‎"Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work." -Vince Lombardi From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Consu

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You should never be having the vendor being also the consultant. A most best approach is for getting an independant consulant like my firm, Hanji Enterprises. UR Friend, Amit On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me

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Or Dell/EMC for that matter. They have lots of consultant expertise, as well as the hardware. - WJR On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:06, Jonathan Link wrote: > Answering your question. have you considered Hitachi? > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > >> Dude... >> >> >> On We

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Answering your question. have you considered Hitachi? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > Dude... > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich < > jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: > >> I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN. >> I >>

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+11 - WJR On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:52, Jonathan Link wrote: > Dude... > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich < > jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: > >> I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN. >> I >> advised that I had decided to step back an

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Every sales guy is a consultant - albeit, a biased one. Roger Wright ___ When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't nothin' like it! On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN

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Dude... On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I got a call from an IBM reseller in the region wanting to sell me a SAN. I > advised that I had decided to step back and look for a consultant to help > me > figure out what my needs are. At that point the sales droid advised that >