Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > This question came up a few months ago, when we initially started the > podling.  The legacy OOo project had many mailing lists which were for > non-English list traffic. > So that's my proposal. I have my asbestos underwear on.  Feel free to >

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-20 Thread Dave Fisher
A strong +1 - this is consistent with my memory of what was discussed three months ago. On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > This question came up a few months ago, when we initially started the > podling. The legacy OOo project had many mailing lists which were for > non-English lis

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/20/2011 09:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Proposal: 1) Create a single user-language list for each native language where there is an active user list today, and where we can identify three committed moderators, preferably at least one from the PMC. Before this I would ask on all language-respe

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/20/2011 04:04 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/20/2011 09:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Proposal: 1) Create a single user-language list for each native language where there is an active user list today, and where we can identify three committed moderators, preferably at least one from the PMC.

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/22/2011 12:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 10/20/2011 04:04 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/20/2011 09:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Proposal: 1) Create a single user-language list for each native language where there is an active user list today, and where we can identify three committed moder

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/20/2011 04:04 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >> >> Am 10/20/2011 09:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> >>> Proposal: >>> >>> 1) Create a single user-language list for each native language where >>> there is an active user list today, and where we c

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-21 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Rob and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > So these are user lists.  Will we want language-specific translation > and localization lists at some point?  That is why I thought it would > make sense to have "user" in the name.  So then in the future we can > have, e..g., ooo

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: > Hi Rob and all, > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> So these are user lists.  Will we want language-specific translation >> and localization lists at some point?  That is why I thought it would >> make sense to have "us

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/22/2011 02:33 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Rob and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: So these are user lists. Will we want language-specific translation and localization lists at some point? That is why I thought it would make sense to have "user" in the name. S

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) > > Am 10/22/2011 02:33 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: >> >> Hi Rob and all, >> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir  wrote: >>> >>> So these are user lists.  Will we want language-specific translation >>> and localization lists at som

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/22/2011 12:16 PM, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) Am 10/22/2011 02:33 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Rob and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weirwrote: So these are user lists. Will we want language-specific translat

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Marcus, * 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) : > Am 10/22/2011 12:16 PM, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: >> >> Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * >> >> 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) >>> [...] > A users list for talkings and a general list to discuss development wrt the > specific language (features, localization, etc

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Rob Weir
In Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > Hi Marcus, * > > 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) : >> Am 10/22/2011 12:16 PM, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: >>> >>> Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * >>> >>> 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) > > [...] > >> A users list for talkings and a general list to

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Rob and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > Remember, we're starting with the existing lists that are already > active.  So if we already have an active German users list, or an > active Dutch users list, then we don't need to guess. Sure. Let German users on this list pr

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Rob and all, Portuguese (pt) :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > How different is written br_pt and br_pt? :) I think br_pt and br_pt are the same.

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: > Hi Rob and all, > > Portuguese (pt) :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language > Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) > :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Portuguese > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> How differ

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Marcus and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Wouldn't this also mean "tell us which MLs you need additionally and we (the > PPMC) will create them." No. We don't say "tell us" but they "tell us" what kind of language list they need, and they propose it on this list.

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Ian Lynch
On 22 October 2011 16:23, Kazunari Hirano wrote: > Hi Marcus and all, > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) > wrote: > > Wouldn't this also mean "tell us which MLs you need additionally and we > (the > > PPMC) will create them." > > No. We don't say "tell us" but they "tell us" what

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/22/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Marcus and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Wouldn't this also mean "tell us which MLs you need additionally and we (the PPMC) will create them." No. We don't say "tell us" but they "tell us" what kind of language

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/22/2011 05:37 PM, schrieb Ian Lynch: On 22 October 2011 16:23, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Marcus and all, On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Wouldn't this also mean "tell us which MLs you need additionally and we (the PPMC) will create them." No. We don't say "tel

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Marcus
ion of the tool here, and it just grow up when the first pt-br version was launched. Best, Jomar -Original Message- From: Kazunari Hirano Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:57:37 To: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to handle the native language lists? Hi Rob and all, Port

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/21/2011 04:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/20/2011 04:04 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/20/2011 09:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Proposal: 1) Create a single user-language list for each native language where there is an active user list t

Res: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Jomar Silva
n was launched. Best, Jomar -Original Message- From: Kazunari Hirano Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:57:37 To: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: How to handle the native language lists? Hi Rob and all, Portuguese (pt) :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language Braz

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Luiz Oliveira
rrier we've had for a massive adoption of the tool > here, and it just grow up when the first pt-br version was launched. > > Best, > > Jomar > > > -Original Message- > From: Kazunari Hirano > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:57:37 > To: > Reply-To: ooo-d

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Jomar, all, 2011/10/22 Jomar Silva : > We have some strong diferences between both languages, and in Brazil there is > some cool jokes about the names used on old OpenOffice (and StarOffice) menus. > > This was btw the first barrier we've had for a massive adoption of the tool > here, and it

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Jomar Silva
>I think we should distinguish two cases: > >1. bulids ... >imho obvious to have two builds: br-pt and the pt-pt ... Agreed. >2. user-mailinglists >the question is, wheather we could start with only one mailingt Not sure if it will work fine, but I agree that we should try. Best, Jomar

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

2011-10-22 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Jomar, *, 2011/10/22 Jomar Silva : >>I think we should distinguish two cases: >> >>1. bulids ... >>imho obvious to have two builds: br-pt and the pt-pt ... > > Agreed. fine >>2. user-mailinglists >>the question is, wheather we could start with only one mailingt > > Not sure if it will work fi