[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 62 delayed

2007-04-17 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello, Will it be based on GNOME 2.18? Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread MC
As soon as Ubuntu supported "click this button to upgrade your entire OS flawlessly from the internet", that feature became a standard for everyone to meet. I take it as a given that Solaris/OpenSolaris will eventually support such a feature. I hope I am not wrong! This message posted fr

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GVIM 7.0 with GTK: is a .pkg available? (not blastwave)

2007-04-17 Thread Doug Scott
Manish, If you use the JDS Common Build Environment with the SFEvim.spec file you would have automatically made a package. Since you have just used a "make install", you pretty much have to make the package by hand. For instructions on how to do this, search for "solaris package" on google.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=solaris+live+upgrade > > Is it really that difficult? Thanks. > Flash versus Live Upgrade versus "apt" versus "yum" > versus a Windows > Like Upgrade discussions are pointless in and of > themselves. I'd prefer > to see more "We like apt because..." or "We t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GVIM 7.0 with GTK: is a .pkg available? (not blastwave)

2007-04-17 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Hi All, I downloaded the tarball and it got built in SXDE with any modifications (using the bundled Sun Studio 11) It has pretty looking GTK fonts and icons. Now my question is: how do i make a .pkg out of it? (it is clear the vim7.0 has no extra dependencies. a base SXDE install is enough) T

[osol-discuss] Unable to compile qt-copy on Solaris with Sun Studio 11

2007-04-17 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Hi All, I wanted to compile KDE4 for Solaris using SunStudio 11 I have used the default Sun tools Compiler = /usr/bin/cc make = /usr/ccs/bin/make I was trying to compile qt-copy with Sun Studio on Solaris Express 11 First i ran ran ./configure with the following options: ./configure -qt-gif -

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Ian Collins
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: >Oh? Where can I find the documentation for procedures >for liveupgrade? It still does not have the >flexibility of using repositories and why do I have to >download a bunch of images when it is likely that 90% >of the stuff would be unchanged? > > > Where do y

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread lloy0076
Hi There, Oh? Where can I find the documentation for procedures for liveupgrade? It still does not have the flexibility of using repositories and why do I have to download a bunch of images when it is likely that 90% of the stuff would be unchanged? * http://www.google.com.au/search?q=solari

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That is not my problem. I would not bother about > this > > if I was more than happy to drop in a DVD or a > bunch > > of CDs to 'upgrade' each box > > Except you don't even ha

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> I didn't say they were doing a *wrong* thing, I just > implied it was not as good. as opposed to none? > > Besides, I bet if you talk to people who use > advocate one of those > distributions, they would claim their particular > distribution's update > management system was better than any ot

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is not my problem. I would not bother about this if I was more than happy to drop in a DVD or a bunch of CDs to 'upgrade' each box Except you don't even have to do that. All you need is an ISO image, no dropping DVDs CDs o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories > seems > > to be very alien here. > > No, it is not. You ju

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories > seems > > to be very alien here. > > No, it is not. You just have a hard time believing > that we don't > embrace it as the "on

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> Sun Connection is very easy to use to manage updates > and is all you're > likely to need in a *production* environment. So I > don't understand > your compliant. Given that you have never indicated > actual usage of > it, I think it is unfair for you to be critical of > it. Eh? When did I make

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> >They sure are. > > > >On my Ultra 5, Solaris 8 box, I could get the > >documentation online locally...will there be an > option > >of tarballs of the documentation in html format? > > > > > Yes, we already have that on OpenSolaris.org, > http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/docs > > Download

[osol-discuss] bugs.opensolaris.org loosing bugs again ?!

2007-04-17 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! Is it possible that bugs.opensolaris.org is loosing bugs (again) ? I am missing two bug reports: 1. "usr/src/cmd/perl/ build installs Subversion directories (.svn) in the proto area" (note that this is not the exact title). That one was filed seveal days ago and since noone f

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Christopher Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, a html-browsable (like http://docs.python.org/) would be fantastic. This lets google index them all for easy searching. (I don't search on local pc (ever)) Google indexes PDFs now, and I have gotten hit results from google search

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Jerry Sutton wrote On 04/17/07 06:00 PM,: >SXDE docs are there but the suggestion is that they are vintage 2/07 per > one of the headings. Maybe they are up to date with the latest >OpenSolaris drop, I don't know. > > Right, docs.sun.com 2/07 is correct, doc sources on OpenSolaris.org should

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories seems to be very alien here. No, it is not. You just have a hard time believing that we don't embrace it as the "one true way" of doing things. I think the point most people have b

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Ease of use Now, I know that most of you old > school UNIX guys > laugh at this, but usability is important. You've > tuned me into a cool > way to do something along the lines of USE flags in > Solaris, but it sure > s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
>From: Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Will do! We're hotly working on a script to go through all the sources >and create PDFs, so we can just serve them up in one tarball on >OpenSolaris. Thanks for your time to reply, much appreciated. Please make them just downloadable as individual pdfs, r

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Jerry Sutton
SXDE docs are there but the suggestion is that they are vintage 2/07 per one of the headings. Maybe they are up to date with the latest OpenSolaris drop, I don't know. One thing I find rather annoying about Sun documentation retrieval - maybe it's just my ignorance - is that the documents ha

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Christopher Mahan wrote On 04/17/07 05:48 PM,: >Chris Mahan >818.943.1850 cell >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.christophermahan.com/ > >- Original Message >From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Christopher Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Michelle Olson <[EMAIL P

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
- Original Message From: Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Yes, of course, you can get PDF of each document on docs.sun.com, you >just have to navigate to each book to get to the downloadable PDF option >and it's painful slow (they say a HW upgrade is coming). But, I don't >speak for Christo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote On 04/17/07 05:41 PM,: >--- Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Christopher Mahan wrote: >> >> >>>Recommendation: Do whatever you have to do to get >>> >>> >>the documentation in PDF as a download option. >>Thanks. >> >>Isn't it all av

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
Chris Mahan 818.943.1850 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.christophermahan.com/ - Original Message From: Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christopher Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Michelle Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tue

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Hiya Alan, Yes, of course, you can get PDF of each document on docs.sun.com, you just have to navigate to each book to get to the downloadable PDF option and it's painful slow (they say a HW upgrade is coming). But, I don't speak for Christopher, just my own experience, so maybe I wrongly assumed

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread John Brewer
5. luupgrade -u -n second_disk -s /export/install/b60 -j /export/install/b60osprofile This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread John Brewer
> On 17/04/07, shay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 > (update 3/05) to > > solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? > > liveupgrade, or boot from the CD and choose the > "upgrade" option. > > -- > "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank > Lloyd Wright

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher Mahan wrote: > > Recommendation: Do whatever you have to do to get > the documentation in PDF as a download option. > Thanks. > > Isn't it all available in PDF on http://docs.sun.com > already? They sure are. On my Ultra 5, Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Will do! We're hotly working on a script to go through all the sources and create PDFs, so we can just serve them up in one tarball on OpenSolaris. Thanks for your time to reply, much appreciated. -Michelle Christopher Mahan wrote On 04/17/07 05:23 PM,: >From: Michelle Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Christopher Mahan wrote: Recommendation: Do whatever you have to do to get the documentation in PDF as a download option. Thanks. Isn't it all available in PDF on http://docs.sun.com already? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window S

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Thomas Rampelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: > >> PXE, Anaconda and JumpStart are just parts and > >> pieces of the puzzle. > >> My point is, in an environment like that, one > would > >> *never* run `apt-get` or > >> `yum update`. That would be ad-hoc. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> 2. Ease of use Now, I know that most of you old > school UNIX guys > laugh at this, but usability is important. You've > tuned me into a cool > way to do something along the lines of USE flags in > Solaris, but it sure > sounds like it's not gonna be easy. Using Ubuntu for > an example,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
From: Michelle Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >We welcome all of your comments and feedback on documentation on the >docs-discuss list for OpenSolaris, that is where documentation is at the >>forefront of discussion and minds. I post to that list the SX manuals that >change each month, or you can

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- a b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Pretty much. Install, copy configs over, reboot. > >Viola. Minus the thousands of servers claim. And > of > >course no Oracle. > > Exactly. As soon as you have to "copy config over", > you're in ad-hoc land. > That works for maybe up to 100 servers with th

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, shay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? liveupgrade, or boot from the CD and choose the "upgrade" option. -- "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software

[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread shay
what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread shay
is it ok to put the replics on the local disks? that the lun devices will not have metadb at all. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle Olson
> a b wrote: > >> 1. Documentation is a major pain in the ass to > find. Outside of man > >> pages and the occasional Sun engineer blog entry, > there seems to be > >> no decent documentation. In fact, most people > admit that the "Solaris > >> 10" books that are currently out, are simply > Sola

[osol-discuss] Re: Request for Community Comment: An Enterprise-Quality Small Server/Appliance

2007-04-17 Thread ratty
Hi Peter, I have been trying to contact you - if you dont mind could you please make contact with me at my email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards, Matt This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: limit number of sftp/scp sessions

2007-04-17 Thread Darren J Moffat
Ben wrote: We currently use ssh in our system and are investigating ways to fulfill an Application STIG requirement. Here's the req APP0530:Session limits do not exist for the application. Its actually a checklist item to determine if you have a security finding. That's why it looks

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread xiaoming zhu
As for OpenSolaris, the way to update Solaris Express is to upgrade to the next release, or depending on your environment, do a BFU (Blindingly Fast Update). Contrary to all the Joyent propaganda, Sun has never claimed this to be the production depoyment thing to do, and I wholeheartedly agree w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Rampelberg
a b wrote: 1. Documentation is a major pain in the ass to find. Outside of man pages and the occasional Sun engineer blog entry, there seems to be no decent documentation. In fact, most people admit that the "Solaris 10" books that are currently out, are simply Solaris 9 books with a new cover

[osol-discuss] Re: limit number of sftp/scp sessions

2007-04-17 Thread Ben
We currently use ssh in our system and are investigating ways to fulfill an Application STIG requirement. Here's the req APP0530:Session limits do not exist for the application. Its actually a checklist item to determine if you have a security finding. That's why it looks like a negat

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE Build 62 delayed

2007-04-17 Thread Derek Cicero
Derek Cicero wrote: FYI - SXCE Build 62 has some issues that they need to respin for. The build will probably be released Friday morning. I am now being told this won't be released until 4/20. I am not sure of the exact reasons. I will look into it further. Derek Derek -- Derek Cicero

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread a b
Pretty much. Install, copy configs over, reboot. Viola. Minus the thousands of servers claim. And of course no Oracle. Exactly. As soon as you have to "copy config over", you're in ad-hoc land. That works for maybe up to 100 servers with three full-time people, but simply shatters for huge se

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Rampelberg
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: PXE, Anaconda and JumpStart are just parts and pieces of the puzzle. My point is, in an environment like that, one would *never* run `apt-get` or `yum update`. That would be ad-hoc. It would take all the stability and reliability out of that environment. I'm s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread a b
Funny, I got the similar results for my mail servers with anaconda kickstart, pxe, dhcp, tftp and grub save for certain stuff in /etc. They all run the same distro base, run the same software packages and scriipts and don't require someone baby sitting them during installation or upgrade. Almost

Re: [osol-discuss] hg-build-snapshots

2007-04-17 Thread Darren J Moffat
Stephen Lau wrote: Try cloning it to a local onnv-gate first, and then clone -r from that. e.g.: hg clone ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate hg clone -r onnv_41 onnv-gate onnv.41 The reason the clone -r directly from opensolaris.org doesn't work is because hg doesn't implement everythi

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Rampelberg
UNIX admin wrote: The problem here is not that Solaris can't deliver or doesn't have the functionality Linux has. Oh, it has the functionality and then some! In fact, it had this advanced functionality for years and years and years. The real problem is, people just don't want to sit down, warm

Re: [osol-discuss] hg-build-snapshots

2007-04-17 Thread Stephen Lau
Try cloning it to a local onnv-gate first, and then clone -r from that. e.g.: hg clone ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate hg clone -r onnv_41 onnv-gate onnv.41 cheers, steve On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 07:32:18PM +0530, Manoj Joseph wrote: > Hi, > > I was following the instructions on the fo

[osol-discuss] hg-build-snapshots

2007-04-17 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, I was following the instructions on the following page to get a onnv snapshot. http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/hg-build-snapshots/ But I am unable to checkout tag onnv_41. -bash-3.00$ hg clone -r onnv_41 ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate abort: clone -r not supported yet fo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- a b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Funny, I got the similar results for my mail > servers > >with anaconda kickstart, pxe, dhcp, tftp and grub > save > >for certain stuff in /etc. They all run the same > >distro base, run the same software packages and > >scriipts and don't require someone

[osol-discuss] Re: vncviewer snv60 x86

2007-04-17 Thread Marcin Woźniak
truss -f -t stat,open /opt/sfw/bin/vncviewer 825:xstat(2, "/opt/sfw/bin/vncviewer", 0x08047A48) = 0 825:open("/var/ld/ld.config", O_RDONLY) = 3 825:xstat(2, "/opt/sfw/lib/libSM.so.6", 0x08047218) Err#2 ENOENT 825:xstat(2, "/usr/lib/libSM.so.6", 0x08047218) = 0 825:

[osol-discuss] Re: vncviewer snv60 x86

2007-04-17 Thread Marcin Woźniak
i tried with crle to update lib. crle -c /var/ld/ld.config -l /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/sfw/lib:/opt/sfw/lib:/opt/csw/lib did't help This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, well, a network enabled dist upgrade or > package > > upgrade are the two things I would be looking for. > > Unless there are tools to help maintain hundreds > of > > servers which are divided into different groups > > available... > > Yes there

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sun studio just has to be as available so that > > software developers will hopefully stop using > gcc/gnu > > ld specific stuff and an easy to update open > solaris > > distribution (nexenta looking pretty much > there...) > > being installed everywh

[osol-discuss] installation solaris 10 in SATA HDD, with new configuration

2007-04-17 Thread kumar
hi friends... this is vasanth, i installed sol 10. installation u have to fallow somany instructions. Especially in SATA HDD, if u have any doubt, contact me with my ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pn:9395389252 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
> Yes, well, a network enabled dist upgrade or package > upgrade are the two things I would be looking for. > Unless there are tools to help maintain hundreds of > servers which are divided into different groups > available... Yes there are. Commercial tools. And they cost a lot of money. Some com

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
> Sun studio just has to be as available so that > software developers will hopefully stop using gcc/gnu > ld specific stuff and an easy to update open solaris > distribution (nexenta looking pretty much there...) > being installed everywhere will hopefully draw the > attention of those software de

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
> Since Gentoo is compile based, the USE flags > generally are directly > transfered to configure options. For example, if you > wanted to install > MySQL with '--with-big-tables' you can simply specify > the > USE='big-tables' USE flag and everything's taken care > of for you. I > can't imagin

[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread mario heimel
the workaround is to create the metadb only on local disks with short names! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org