Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 8/07 Released

2007-09-06 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
BTW, SDM worked OK on my SuSE 10.2; it appeared that it is the nv_70 version of SDM that's having problems. However, I am able to use SDM in nv_70 to download nv_71 iso's. Have no idea what is/was going, just to make a note. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Casper . Dik
Sun refusing to make noise doesn't help either. Considering that almost every SPARC machine ships with ATI gpus inside, if they really meant it, they would have removed it - and launch a campaign of pulling AMD's name through the mud for poor co-operation with a partner. I'm not sure that is

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread UNIX admin
So it would seem: http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ If they actually follow through on this, I'd buy a new ATi card in a heartbeat. Why? Nvidia has great support for Solaris. They've done everything *just right*, including packaging. I checked their stuff and they really *paid attention to

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread UNIX admin
cdrw is a strange program on Solaris. It has been started as CD only program around 2002 - 4 years after cdrecord did introduce DVD writing support. At the time cdrw was added to Solaris, they also added mkisofs but not cdrecord although cdecord and mkisofs are in the same source

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread UNIX admin
As a by-product of this thread, I would like to say that I miss a howto repository (as there is in Linux) or a knowledge base (as Microsoft offers for their products) for such common knowledge that one must become aware of before one can fully appreciate the beauty of OpenSolaris. Sometimes

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's like Adobe (née MacroMedia) flashplayer vs Acroread for x86[1]. Casper [1] Perhaps the mention of Acroread for x86 should be an amendment to Godwin's law. Please toss GPL (at least on the OpenSolaris list;-) in that amendment also.g --

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 8/07 Released

2007-09-06 Thread Tim Scanlon
I was getting 1.8meg from Hilo on it today... Tim This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-06 Thread Tim Scanlon
It's reasonable to expect problems in one release that aren't there in the next one, I've been using unstable builds as my primary desktop for a very long time without much trouble. Usually what I do is use another local machine as a stable platform use 'screen' to that, or restrict certain

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is sketched out roughly, but no coding has started on this yet (and, given my commitments changed, isn't going to start by myself any time soon either). Cool but in regards to how the FAT is read, that is, dumping the whole thing in

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is sketched out roughly, but no coding has started on this yet (and, given my commitments changed, isn't going to start by myself any time soon either). Cool but in regards to how the FAT is read,

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 12:08 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is sketched out roughly, but no coding has started on this yet (and, given my commitments changed, isn't going to start by myself any time soon either). Cool but in

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 01:02 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: So it would seem: http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ If they actually follow through on this, I'd buy a new ATi card in a heartbeat. Why? Nvidia has great support for Solaris. They've done everything *just right*, including

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:20 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun refusing to make noise doesn't help either. Considering that almost every SPARC machine ships with ATI gpus inside, if they really meant it, they would have removed it - and launch a campaign of pulling AMD's name through the

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Casper . Dik
AMD still owns ATI; if AMD management is so incompetant to be unable to put their foot down and actually establish who is boss, who own's who, then I think they need to give up, go home and take up an interest in knitting. I don't think management chains actually have that much control over

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread UNIX admin
I've gone 1 step further; boycott all AMD products - AMD now owns ATI; if management at AMD don't have the melons to lay down the law then maybe a job working for the womens spinners and weavers association is more up their alley. I've got nothing against AMD. The Opterons in my servers

[osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-06 Thread Neerhaj N Joshi
i am new to opensolaris discussions/community. I am working on the 652094 bug and do not know which is the relevant community. Please help. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-06 Thread S h i v
On 9/6/07, Neerhaj N Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am new to opensolaris discussions/community. I am working on the 652094 bug and do not know which is the relevant community. Please help. 6452094? For any bug in ONNV, I believe osol-code is the appropriate forum. -Shiv

Re: [osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-06 Thread Sean McGrath - Sun Microsystems Ireland
Neerhaj N Joshi stated: i am new to opensolaris discussions/community. I am working on the 652094 bug and do not know which is the relevant community. Please help. Which bug ? 652094 doesn't exist. Seems you've left out a digit there. Regards, -- Sean. .

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 13:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMD still owns ATI; if AMD management is so incompetant to be unable to put their foot down and actually establish who is boss, who own's who, then I think they need to give up, go home and take up an interest in knitting. I

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 05:02 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: I've gone 1 step further; boycott all AMD products - AMD now owns ATI; if management at AMD don't have the melons to lay down the law then maybe a job working for the womens spinners and weavers association is more up their alley.

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread Douglas Atique
Actually (Open)Solaris has documentation, including HOWTOs, which is among the best and finest in the industry: http://docs.sun.com/ Yes, of course, Sun documentation is very good and I use it very often. But I mean maybe some kind of Wiki, where people who get to know something

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Douglas Atique
Why don't you just use a recent cdrecord version? I did it. Got 2.01.01a35 sources from berlios site and cdrecord burned my 6.8GB image perfectly to the disk. Thanks for pointing me to it. cdrecord includes full support for DVD+R/DL (including automated and manual layer breask setup -

Re: [osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-06 Thread Neerhaj N Joshi
i apologize for the typing error. Its 6452094. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it would seem: http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ If they actually follow through on this, I'd buy a new ATi card in a heartbeat. Why? Nvidia has great support for Solaris. They've done everything *just right*, including packaging. I

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Lurie
Darn, too bad :( the speed is definitely not fantastic (3.8mb/s read vs 15-20mb/s in Linux for a usb flash stick) + the mem usage... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-06 Thread James Carlson
W. Wayne Liauh writes: Ideally a serious Solaris-wannabe should have at least three Solaris slices: A stable release (Solaris 10, updated), a less unstable release (SXDE, or an SXCE build that you have felt comfortable with), and a supposedly unstable release (most recent SXCE build). All

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Casper . Dik
* If I have a choice between two pieces of hardware that both have really good performance, and roughly the same price, but one has open specifications, and one does not, I'm going to go with the one that has open specifications. That's why. Do we expect the specs to be both open and complete?

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Lurie wrote: Darn, too bad :( the speed is definitely not fantastic (3.8mb/s read vs 15-20mb/s in Linux for a usb flash stick) + the mem usage... The change does nothing for the (non-)speed, unfortunately. It does: - enable access to 2kB secsize media (like video

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread UNIX admin
Yes, of course, Sun documentation is very good and I use it very often. But I mean maybe some kind of Wiki, where people who get to know something remarkable about Solaris (e.g. how you burn a DVD+R DL -- and that is not something that comes with SXCE out of the box) can write it there so

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Sun refusing to make noise doesn't help either. I've been staying out of this discussion since I know far too much for my own health, but since I'm tired of the bashing, I'll just point out that just because you haven't seen Sun do anything doesn't mean Sun's done nothing.

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Douglas Atique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I found the following advantages to it, which maybe would be of interest to you as maintainer of cdrecord: 1. cdrw shows the progress of the recording session with a percent amount that lets the user know whether it is close to the end or

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Lurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darn, too bad :( the speed is definitely not fantastic (3.8mb/s read vs 15-20mb/s in Linux for a usb flash stick) + the mem usage... Do not expect to see more than 12 MB/s on Solaris. Unless I missed a software update information, Solaris does not yet support

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Atique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I found the following advantages to it, which maybe would be of interest to you as maintainer of cdrecord: 1. cdrw shows the progress of the recording session with a percent amount

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * If I have a choice between two pieces of hardware that both have really good performance, and roughly the same price, but one has open specifications, and one does not, I'm going to go with the one that has open specifications. That's

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread David C. Stewart
I'd be hesitant to use ad-hoc sources of information on the Internet unless I knew that information came from an authoritative source, such as from the engineer that worked on the product, or from someone that is a proven expert in the field. That presents a catch-22, because in order for me

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 8/07 Released

2007-09-06 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I was getting 1.8meg from Hilo on it today... Tim Yes, I was able to get up to 2.8 meg (350 KB/s) last night on both accounts (Solaris and Solaris Express). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Atique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I found the following advantages to it, which maybe would be of interest to you as maintainer of cdrecord: 1. cdrw shows the progress of

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread Douglas Atique
But it doesn't have to be a sun supported wiki - ANYBODY can do it. Completely agreed. My point in fact is that I would like to go to opensolaris.org and see a link there saying e.g. Resources or How to... that would link to a page with links to genunix.org/wiki (that I have just learned,

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris howtos, installation and customisation (WAS: Writing DVD +/-R D

2007-09-06 Thread Brandorr
I try to keep links to external sources of info in the FAQ. Also, I noticed that if you Google for OpenSolaris FAQ, the FAQ I am working on comes up third on the list. Also, OpenSolaris HOWTOs search brings up an email that talks about the genunix howtos page. We are still figuring it out...

Re: [osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Neerhaj N Joshi wrote: i apologize for the typing error. Its 6452094. That's a bash bug (would have helped if you said that instead of making us look it up) - so either shell-discuss or sfwnv-discuss would be the places I'd consider to ask about it. -- -Alan Coopersmith-

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Atique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I found the following advantages to it, which maybe would be of interest to you as

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-06 Thread Phil Harman
On 6 Sep 2007, at 09:16, UNIX admin wrote: The way I see it, Sun employs some really awesome engineers, certainly among the best and brightest in the industry. Gee thanks. You say the kindest things. The downside is that these engineers seem to often suffer from the not invented here

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, you shipped some rebranded 7500 Radeons under another name as well. Whoopee doo...those are issolated cases. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: * If I have a choice between two pieces of hardware that both have really good performance, and roughly the same price, but one has open specifications, and one does not, I'm going to go with the one that has open specifications. That's why. Nvidia has

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you did tell me this in February 1996, you had a chance I am giving people long term stability. It is too late now. How does showing the progress of the CD write a matter of stability? Are you implying that the output of the program can never

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Phil Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p.s. maybe Joerg would consider making cdrw a link to cdrecord, and preserve compatibility for the sake of existing scripts? If we froze the cdrw capabilities, perhaps cdrw could then die with dignity of natural causes? cdrecord is free software.

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-06 Thread James Carlson
Phil Harman writes: On 6 Sep 2007, at 09:16, UNIX admin wrote: It's not just cdrecord versus cdrw. You can clearly see the NIH syndrome in packaging and Caiman projects too. Dave Miner did some truly awesome work, but not once did anybody think to stop and study how other UNIX

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you did tell me this in February 1996, you had a chance I am giving people long term stability. It is too late now. How does showing the progress of the CD write a matter of stability?

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely a 2.x version of cdrecord could break such stability in favour of a better user experience? 2.0 has been published 5 years ago. Okay, a major version release greater than the current release - I wasn't being literal. Let's suppose then

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely a 2.x version of cdrecord could break such stability in favour of a better user experience? 2.0 has been published 5 years ago. Okay, a major version release greater than the

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot more stability than you get from Solaris (see recent tar -/ discussion). If you like to have a cdrw emulation for cdrecord, you are invited to write it. Right, I wasn't suggesting that you personally do it. So since 3.0 isn't final

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot more stability than you get from Solaris (see recent tar -/ discussion). If you like to have a cdrw emulation for cdrecord, you

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot more stability than you get from Solaris (see recent tar -/ discussion). If you like to have a cdrw emulation for cdrecord, you are invited to write it. Right, I wasn't

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Yeah, and the current situation has worked so well so far. dribble snip'd Look, let's just end this conversation on this list, and get back to OpenSolaris. It's pretty clear that you don't know WTF you're talking about when it comes to Sun's

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Collins
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: More twaddle completely unrelated to OpenSolaris. Can you take this uninformed nonsense somewhere else, a long way form here? Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 20:13 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, if Sun played it in such a way, Sun would look like the victim, AMD would look like the irresponsible partner, and the only one who would truly come out worse would be AMD - as AMD

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 20:10 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hmm, interesting, having seen all the weird and crazy crap which money is dedicated to, you'll think that scraping a few thousand for pcfs wouldn't be too much of a big request. Too bad

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 15:36 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: More twaddle completely unrelated to OpenSolaris. Can you take this uninformed nonsense somewhere else, a long way form here? Ian Or you could ignore it - would that require some maturity? Matthew

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Collins
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 15:36 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: More twaddle completely unrelated to OpenSolaris. Can you take this uninformed nonsense somewhere else, a long way form here? Ian Or you could ignore it - would that require some

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 20:13 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, if Sun played it in such a way, Sun would look like the victim, AMD would look like the irresponsible partner, and the only

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 10:31 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, you shipped some rebranded 7500 Radeons under another name as well. Whoopee doo...those are issolated cases. But cases where Sun should

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hmm, interesting, having seen all the weird and crazy crap which money is dedicated to, you'll think that scraping a few thousand for pcfs wouldn't be too much of a big request. Too bad you're not running Sun. It would be so much easier to get

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris Express Developer Edition be used to build OpenSolaris so

2007-09-06 Thread Evan Christopher Henry
Is there any follow up to this? Is it confirmed you can build OpenSolaris from the developer edition? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 07:42 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Sun refusing to make noise doesn't help either. I've been staying out of this discussion since I know far too much for my own health, but since I'm tired of the bashing, I'll just point out that just because

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 15:09 +0100, Frank Hofmann wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: [ ... ] Cool but in regards to how the FAT is read, that is, dumping the whole thing in memory rather than a gradual read - is that going to be a addressed soon? I'm not aware of any

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot more stability than you get from Solaris (see recent tar -/ discussion).

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris Express Developer Edition be used to build OpenSolaris so

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Evan Christopher Henry wrote: Is there any follow up to this? Is it confirmed you can build OpenSolaris from the developer edition? Yes. You'll need to download it seperatly though. The SunStudio is included on the DVD. The first cut of the new installer is there, for

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 05/09/07, Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: So it would seem: http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ If they actually follow through on this, I'd buy a new ATi card in a heartbeat. No offense to Intel for the great stuff they've done, but they

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 10:31 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, you shipped some rebranded 7500 Radeons under another name as well. Whoopee doo...those are issolated cases. But cases where Sun should have used Nvidia instead. Matthew

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-06 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Actually, if Sun played it in such a way, Sun would look like the victim, AMD would look like the irresponsible partner, and the only one who would truly come out worse would be AMD - as AMD partners would question the basis of any relationship with