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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the
agenda of the OGB?
No - what would the benefit of that be?
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nyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris
actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself
rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all?
You really see enough people or companies donating the sum
required to hire anyone? I can't see $100,000+ falling into
our la
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they do or do not want, and will almost certainly have
to do so at some point. That they haven't planned for
this is a sign how little they've thought about what
OpenSolaris really means to the way Solaris is built.
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n dtwm & dtterm, etc.).
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Anil Gulecha wrote:
> On 7/10/07, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> from dtlogin to gdm, waiting for the new installer to remove the dependency
>> of the current installer on dtwm & dtterm, etc.).
>>
>
> Are we talking Caiman here? :)
Yes - th
Aaron Epps wrote:
> Is the only way to get updates for OpenSolaris to buy a annual contract from
> Sun?
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you anything more than you can get from the free downloads on
OpenSolaris.org.
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run live upgrade, etc.).The Solaris patch/registration
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x27;t contain
> non-redistributable files (if any).
I know that everything from End User to Full contains binaries from
X that we haven't done the work to make redistributable (and until
that is done I don't know if we can or not), so it could only be
Core or smaller that are alr
Open Source demo programs
> system SUNWsprotSolaris Bundled tools
For the majority of the OS (ON is only about 20% of Solaris), you need
to download the new ISO's and do an OS upgrade to them - unfortunately,
if you've used BFU, it breaks your
ld not work on a boot cd?
That makes no sense whatsoever, since "keyboard" is just
aliased to "kbd" now.
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website-discuss is the forum for discussing how the opensolaris.org web
infrastructure works.
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Paul Jakma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apologies if this isn't the right forum, b
munity/x_win/changelogs/
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Li Qin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I always get 0 result, whatever I searched
t given their
animosity towards open source drivers. No real action seems to have come
from them yet.
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Orvar Korvar wrote:
> True.
>
> ATI's has drivers only for Windows OS.
ATI has drivers for Linux as well, though they're usually behind
the Windows drivers. (For instance, the X1000 series was supported
on Windows about 6 months before they got a Linux driver out for it.)
1280x1024, 1152x864 , 832x634, 800x600,
> 540x480, but the resyncing veyries on the right side of the screen when I
> change resolutions, I have a Asus N2NPV-VM MB w. 64meg enabled nVidia GeForce
> 6100.
I believe you've filed bugs on both of those right? I seem to
remember
video device drivers for
> "alternate" OS platforms.
Really? Where did you hear that? Their actions seem
to be consistently the opposite of that.
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e DRI project, Utah-GLX project,
> or others.
Nice marketing spin, but ATI hasn't been actively assisting
the open source community for quite a while.
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ase help if you have any
> idea.
You'll have to find a sponsor, such as Sun or another company,
who has money - OpenSolaris itself has no money.
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I suspect you're right (or at least the people there are more likely
to know who they are).
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Brian Gupta wrote:
> I suspect they are more likely to be found on the advocacy
st of those
> protocols. That doesn't require money.
Doesn't matter how much you reverse engineer - if it's patented, you still
need a license to ship it.
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Robert Neville wrote:
> On 8/3/07, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That list has been retired.
>
> Why was the list retired?
Because the CAB was replaced by the OpenSolaris Governing Board
(OGB) when the OpenSolaris Charter was approved.
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by Sun? If so, you're very mistaken.
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Alan DuBoff wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>
>> Doesn't matter how much you reverse engineer - if it's patented, you
>> still
>> need a license to ship it.
>
> Depends on which protocol and the license, IMO. I can get many of
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "Alan Coopersmith"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Alan DuBoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "MC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>
1.0. Since the only work Sun is putting into CDE now is
removing it from Solaris, there is no chance of updating to a new OpenGroup
version.
> Also is there a way to update solaris 10 CDE from 1.6.3 to 1.7_64?
I don't think the Nevada (CDE 1.7) packages will run on Solaris 10, but
h
rd to know when there is no name attached to the put back as
> far as I see.
The onnv-notify mail about the putback lists the committers name:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/onnv-notify/2007-July/012243.html
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e part of open source world use this !
Most of them already are - gcc, gmake, gdb, autoconf, etc. - what are
you missing?
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Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 23:48 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> S h i v wrote:
>>> On 8/6/07, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> It does seem puzzling.
>>>> The reason is that:
>>>>
>>&
to
ask if cases should be open or closed, and if the user chooses closed,
explain why. Before that, making a case open required manual intervention
which many ARC case submitters didn't know how to do, so many were made
closed that shouldn't be - that should hopefully happen much less often
g at using his
work for Indiana (right now, it's an option we're exploring, not a
decision we've made).
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f to
your heart's desire - the easiest way to do so is simply to stop
X, and then run Xorg -configure and then mv that file to /etc/X11
and vi it as needed.
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may look better than some of the free ones bundled with
Solaris, but just being TrueType won't necessarily make any
difference.
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now, if you need new nvidia versions, you can download and
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-heavy?
The OGB does not need to approve changes like this to the website.
We don't have enough time to micro-manage every little web page change.
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Boyd Adamson wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Orvar Korvar wrote:
>>> Ok, ive tried that, sub pixel smoothing and such stuff and it looks
>>> better. Would installing trutype fonts make it looks better still? I
>>> can rip them
ndiana if it did.
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mes inexplicable, are simply Sun's current graphical design
patten.
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UNIX admin wrote:
> I wonder what it would take to change that crazy "small root, the rest for
> /export/home/" layout?
Did you try the new installer in build 70? It just changed
the default layout.
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orage Community that need to vote, not
the just any Core Contributor.)
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> I did explain why it is not "good enough".
>> You explained why UDF will be the wrong choice for making such
>> disks - but we're talking a
; so therefore anytime soon I expect that the new SXDE to be released .. soon
> I hope.
snv_70b isn't even scheduled to be built until next week.
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That's just the complete PCI ID database, used for printing device
names. It tells you nothing about what devices are supported or not.
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ely week
long process to get them posted as SXCE for public download next week.
However, the build 70b respin is also happening this week, so they're
building & testing two builds at once, and Monday is a holiday in the
US, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a few days later than
n the next couple of
months, but don't know the details. (They contacted the Sun bloggers
alias recently to warn us any links in our blogs to download locations
may need to be updated soon.)
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Another strange thing: Sun is in the board of directors of the Blu Ray group
> but there are no known Sun activities related to Blu Ray.
You mean other than Blu-Ray Java?
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> Another strange thing: Sun is in the board of directors of the Blu Ray group
>>> but there are no known Sun activities related to Blu Ray.
>> You mean
7;t
know the results until product is delivered.
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Neerhaj N Joshi wrote:
> i apologize for the typing error. Its 6452094.
That's a bash bug (would have helped if you said that instead of
making us look it up) - so either shell-discuss or sfwnv-discuss
would be the places I'd consider to ask about it.
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gt; would be difficult to support and hard to defend as a good choice
> during architectural, design, and code review.
If we were actually going to do it, wouldn't it make more sense to
export a new, more stable API from the kernel for it?
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> Nice. I hear Solaris 11 is coming out early next year.
You need to get a better source of info.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "Giles Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/13/07, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Giles Turner wrote:
>>>> Nice. I hear Solaris 11 is coming out early next year.
>>> You need to get a
g set?
Secure-by-Default sets it for you. (I thought it was in a
profile, but don't see it there - you can see it set in the
/usr/sbin/netservices script.)
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> According to a Sun Blog, xVM is being integrated into Nevada Build 75
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007091801/
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re, but for the one product I know of that came
out of that agreement, it certainly has restrictions and Sun is not
free to do whatever it damn well pleases, so I think you just read a
poorly informed news article and not the actual agreement.
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e to enable composite, login
as root to a text console (choose "Command line login" from
the options menu on the login gui) and run:
/usr/X11/bin/Xorg -configure
mv /xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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with your e-mail in the submitter field:
CR 6611124 Created P4 opensolaris/triage-queue inetconv may create manifests
that svccfg cannot import
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d related infrastructure,
is there anyone with "OpenSolaris as their job title"? Alternatively, isn't
OpenSolaris supposed to be the job of everyone in the Solaris organization
now, regardless of job title?
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they have an easy-to-find page archiving
them all or if you have to go through the full mail archives. I believe SFW
does the same with their source drop announcement e-mails.
X changelogs are at: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/x_win/changelogs/
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rtual Client OpenSolaris community group is in the process of
being set up which will include Sun Ray, but until it is, you'll
probably do best at the existing Sun Ray community website/mailing
list:
http://www.sun-rays.org/
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images for all your tabs. For much more discussion on it,
see:
http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-11.html#moz-images
http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2007-09.html#firefox-memory-1
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259672
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discontinued, SXDE will likely continue as will the
> express program
SXDE 1/08 is the last planned release of SXDE - after that
the current plan (always subject to change) is to replace
SXDE with the Indiana 6-monthly releases.
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Community Group, names people as Core Contributors, who can
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de as times change and
the people involved change.
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Eric Boutilier wrote:
> As Alan Coopersmith just alluded to, it's not up to the OGB to
> mandate a vote.
That wasn't quite my point - if there is a proposal ready to be put
to a vote, it would be the OGB who put forth the vote to the members,
but I haven't seen any proposa
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Alan Burlison wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>
>>> Perhaps someone from the OGB would care to comment? Or perhaps we
>>> should expect their usual torpor to continue...
>>
>> The OGB just spent an hour on the phone (12 noon-1pm PDT) with Ian
>> Murdock
iliated folks as well. Calling it
>> Sun OpenSolaris would be inaccurate.
>
> A really comparison. Try to find out how hard it was to include ksh93 and
> that star is still not in!
star is still not in simply because no one wants it badly enough to do
the work, while ksh93 is in becau
Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> I remember that we did aggree ~ 2.5 years ago, that Sun would not call a
>>> distro OpenSolaris.
>> I don't know who would have made that agreement
search in.If you find a conflict with another trademark, then it's,
stop/rinse/repeat, costing another iteration of the search fees, until
you get a good one.
So is it possible? I don't know why not. Is it going to be cheap or
easy? Probably not.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>>>> I remember that we did aggree ~ 2.5 years a
[Dropping [EMAIL PROTECTED] &
[EMAIL PROTECTED] since this is getting way off topic.]
Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> star is still not in simply because no one wants it badly enough to do
>> the work, while ksh93 is in because R
think that December/January-ish is about as late as we can push it
unless Indiana agrees to choose another name for it's March release.
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ents, and differing sets of
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> 3) If so, how do I help or get this started? [I obviously need someone
> with the sources, so it's no use telling me to just get started]
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/emancipation/
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be a distribution with exclusive use
of the name, just that the name shouldn't be taken exclusively by a distribution
the community hasn't agreed to endorse that way, nor even seen until after it
was announced it was using the name.
I suspect we'll get to the same end result
nd influence are inversely proportional.
The more control you try to take, even over things like the name that you
may consider less significant, the less influence you will have with the
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that none of the 6 existing distros could be renamed OpenSolaris, but the
new one from Project Indiana could be named OpenSolaris before anyone in
the community had seen it, and then claiming it was the community's distro.
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It's used for scripts to get an exit status from grep without grep
printing output (i.e. a more efficient version of "grep > /dev/null 2>&1").
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en source project to the benevolent dictator model, it
needs to come out and say so. As Shawn pointed out, other projects
have worked that way - certainly Ubuntu has managed to make it work
with the core source of funding also being the final decision maker,
but only because it was clear from
Glynn Foster wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> James Carlson wrote:
>>> I don't think I agree that our current constitution allows for a
>>> dictator, benevolent or otherwise. Should Sun's management actually
>>> announce that this is in fact wha
hange that the current constitution
> says requires a community-wide decision -- i.e., a vote.
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between a large change to the constitution and a complete replacement.
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opment of the OpenSolaris project. There is no
legal contract signed with anyone requiring they do so, just community
goodwill to be lost when they don't.
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your wireless to work in Indiana if it works in SX*E.
Indiana should be a subset of SXCE. I know of at least one major driver
(nvidia graphics) which is in SXCE but not Indiana, due to redistribution
restrictions.
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entirety of the next version
of Solaris, including not just ON, but all the other consolidations (X,
JDS, SFW, NWS, GAN, etc.) as well. ONNV is the code name for ON for
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tradition. If you follow it, you'll see there is no
"Nevada Community" there, just an ON community group with a
ONNV project. (It's one of several links I'd remove if I
controlled the sidebar, along with the duplication of the
"Portal" and "All Communi
opment model, not yet even up to beta quality.
ATI has not yet released 3D specifications, so this isn't the place to
go yet if you want 3D performance.
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