And yes, POWER has a bleak future. It will die eventually.
I'm afraid POWER has more shining future than SPARC unfortunately. Have you
heard anything about A2? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_A2 -- very good
CPU on the paper with ability to kill Niagara (based on pricing of course).
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On 9/9/2010 4:38 AM, Karel Gardas wrote:
And yes, POWER has a bleak future. It will die eventually.
I'm afraid POWER has more shining future than SPARC unfortunately. Have you
heard anything about A2? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_A2 -- very good
CPU on the paper with ability to
You (Erik Trimble) wrote:
On 9/9/2010 4:38 AM, Karel Gardas wrote:
And yes, POWER has a bleak future. It will die eventually.
I'm afraid POWER has more shining future than SPARC unfortunately. Have you
heard anything about A2? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_A2 -- very
good CPU on
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On 9/9/2010 9:15 AM, Matthias Pfützner wrote:
Remember: Even withe the old E10K, Solaris at GA date was capable
to use all that hardware from a single kernel... And that's more
than 12 years back... ;-) So, scaling on cores, CPUs and thread is
On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote:
It never shipped, (well it did kinda, but not in it's full glory) but
the group I was in at Sun had developed HW to connect multiple E6K,
and E10K machines (up to 16 if I remember correctly) together, and
scale a single kernel instance across all of
You (Kyle McDonald)wrote:
On 9/9/2010 9:15 AM, Matthias Pfützner wrote:
Remember: Even withe the old E10K, Solaris at GA date was capable
to use all that hardware from a single kernel... And that's more
than 12 years back... ;-) So, scaling on cores, CPUs and thread is
what Solaris still
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On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote:
It never shipped, (well it did kinda, but not in it's full glory) but
the group I was in at Sun
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On 9/9/2010 11:42 AM, Octave Orgeron wrote:
There was a solution for the Sun Fire 6800-25k servers that allowed
you to do this. The name escapes me, but I know Sun had a course
for it and sold it to several universities and of course the US
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On 9/9/2010 10:27 AM, Matthias Pfützner wrote:
No, I was not talking about that, I simply meant: The E10K had 64
CPUs and at GA date, Solaris was ready to use 64 CPUs from a single
kernel... Unlike the IBM 795, which can currently have MORE
Are you speculating or do you have some substance? You seem to know a bit about
AIX kernel code?
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Perhaps some sort of side project can be started to
look at a generic
way of making device driver sources from Linux and
the BSDs work with
the OpenSolaris kernel (as separate Solaris modules
so there are no
clashes between the CDDL and GPL/BSD licenses.) Most
of the devices are
Are you speculating or do you have some substance?
You seem to know a bit about AIX kernel code?
He's not wrong about AIX history - it has had parts of its
kernel pageable for a long time. But that is less important now
than it was once, esp. since CPUs are so fast, and disks, while large
Those news are 7 years old! things have changed since then
What things have changed since then? Do you have any links where IBM executives
take back what they said?
It is said: The roadmap is to kill AIX in the future. It makes sense, as Linux
is selling more than AIX. And x86 is soon faster
But I still think if Oracle does not change it's current ideas for solaris it
will die out. Solaris has always been more advaced then linux but that has not
stop shops migrating to linux
Everyone knows that Unix lost ground. The thing is, there have never been a
compelling reason to switch to
Hi,
On 7.09.10 19:33, Orvar Korvar wrote:
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX
will be killed. IBM has said that officially.
Here is links that confirm my claim. Just google a bit and you will see.
Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I agree that Unix lost
ground, everyone knows that. The question is not about the past. Let us
instead try to look into the future instead.
Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay big
That is nonsense and just tabloid talk.
IBM just recently announced AIX 7 for their POWER 7 server line. Linux cannot
in any way use the full capabilities of POWER architecture the way it is
exploited with AIX. If IBM was to eliminate AIX, they would have to also kill
their POWER
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:10 AM, usafverteran us...@yahoo.com wrote:
That is nonsense and just tabloid talk.
IBM just recently announced AIX 7 for their POWER 7 server line. Linux
cannot in any way use the full capabilities of POWER architecture the way it
is exploited with AIX. If IBM was
Businesses that use RHEL use their Satellite server and don't use kickstart and
other methods that are free because they want support.
Hence they shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars annually to save money
over expensive AIX and Solaris.
And up2date? Apparently you aren't very versed
You are free to speculate of course. But when IBM executives say something,
there is some substance in what they say. More substance than in a speculation.
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:44 AM, usafverteran wrote:
Businesses that use RHEL use their Satellite server and don't use kickstart
and other methods that are free because they want support.
They serve different functions. The satellite server is used for centrally
deploying software updates;
How is that nonsense?
IBM has said OFFICIALLY they are going to kill AIX. When IBM say so, is it
nonsense of me to repeat what IBM said? How is it nonsense? In fact, it makes
very sense to repeat what IBM say. Actually, it is nonsense to reject IBMs own
official statements. In other words, it
You're using an article 7 to 8 years old to base your conjecture? Why would
they spend millions developing AIX if it was being killed?
You also fail to realize transportation, finance, insurance, banking, retail,
defense, and all sectors of the economy run AIX. They have no intention of
On 09/08/10 13:36, usafverteran wrote:
You're using an article 7 to 8 years old to base your conjecture? Why would
they spend millions developing AIX if it was being killed?
You also fail to realize transportation, finance, insurance, banking, retail,
defense, and all sectors of the
Actually, its less the name AIX will be dropped but more that AIX will be
transformed into the Power port of Linux and called AIX.
The user space has been mostly Linux for quite a while and I suspect there will
be much rejoicing in kernel, Why the HECK did we obsess with a kernel that can
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Orvar (kebabber) said:
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux.
Yes, some analysts made statements like this but it never was officially put in
stone.
Most of the time, people speculate on such greener grass until reality hits
them.
Linux is not at the level of
Wow, we're still using this list to blather on about speculation about
random unrelated unknown and hypothetical nonsense? I thought those days
were finally behind us.
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You also fail to realize transportation, finance,
insurance, banking, retail, defense, and all sectors
of the economy run AIX. They have no intention of
running their operations deemed critical to cheap x86
hardware running Linux.
There is something to be said for developing your
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It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I agree that Unix lost ground,
everyone knows that. The question is not about the past. Let us instead try to
look into the future instead.
Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay big money. Sun had 35.000 customers.
Oracle will make sure that
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Hi Orvar
On 6.09.10 17:06, Orvar Korvar wrote:
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX
will be killed. IBM has said that officially.
Really? Where? Could you point on some recent info around this, please?
Best regards,
Milan
Kaminski fabiokamin...@gmail.com
To: Octave Orgeron unixcons...@yahoo.com
Cc: usafverteran us...@yahoo.com; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 11:59:17 PM
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11 Express
dream, dream, dream
As an interesting side note, prior to Oracle launching Unbreakable
Linux I noticed that critical db patches (not quarterly bundles) were
usually released for Solaris followed shortly by Linux and Windows
versions. After Oracle started their Linux initiative, I noticed that
they all had roughly
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 10:35:30 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris
11 Express
As an interesting side note, prior to Oracle launching Unbreakable
Linux I noticed that critical db patches (not quarterly bundles
] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with
Solaris
11 Express
It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I agree that Unix lost
ground,
everyone knows that. The question is not about the past. Let us instead try
to
look into the future instead.
Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX
will be killed. IBM has said that officially.
Here is links that confirm my claim. Just google a bit and you will see.
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2003/01/29/ibm-linux-will-replace-aix-2129537/
Those news are 7 years old! things have changed since then
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX
will be killed. IBM has said that officially.
Here is links that confirm
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:33 AM PDT, Orvar Korvar wrote:
Here is links that confirm my claim. Just google a bit and you will see.
From a LinuxWorld conference in January of '03? Interestingly, Steve
Mills now heads their hardware group in addition to their software
group...
On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:00 PM, usafverteran wrote:
Every day I see Linux servers and clusters crash with nary an explanation as
to the cause. Red Hat support and Novell support are unable to give an
answer, so the problems continue.
I've actually gotten fairly good responses from RedHat, when
It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I
agree that Unix lost ground, everyone knows that. The
question is not about the past. Let us instead try to
look into the future instead.
Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay big money.
Sun had 35.000 customers. Oracle will make sure
On Sep 7, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Edward Martinez quoted:
Thanks to its strong support of the x86 hardware architecture, in terms of
overall volume, Linux is just a much higher volume product than Solaris ever
was, says Al Gillen, an IDC analyst.
Volume of licenses tells us nothing about the kind
On Sep 7, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Edward Martinez quoted:
Thanks to its strong support of the x86 hardware
architecture, in terms of overall volume, Linux is
just a much higher volume product than Solaris ever
was, says Al Gillen, an IDC analyst.
Volume of licenses tells us nothing about the
You wrote:
Well i don't want to start disrepecting my follow solaris users/devs with
this turning into a heated argument
Sorry if my comments came across too strong... I honestly would like
to see the IDC quotes in context, however, as I have mixed feelings
about orgs like IDC re their
On 09/07/10 16:42, Edward Martinez wrote:
Zemlin also disputes Sun's notion that Solaris technology gives it an edge
over Linux. The only people I hear talk about DTrace [Solaris's technology
for assessing program and OS behaviours] and ZFS [the Zettabyte File System]
as competitive
Honestly, (and I'm not speaking in any way as an Oracle insider, or
from any inside knowledge), the question is not Will Solaris Survive?,
the real question is Will Solaris continue to be a General Purpose
Computing OS/platform?
Oracle (pre-Sun) was massively invested in Solaris as their
On 09/ 7/10 09:51 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
Honestly, (and I'm not speaking in any way as an Oracle insider, or
from any inside knowledge), the question is not Will Solaris
Survive?, the real question is Will Solaris continue to be a General
Purpose Computing OS/platform?
Oracle (pre-Sun)
It would be a marked departure from their past behavior.
If you look at most of their products, they are almost all merely
means to get you to buy an RDBMS license. The whole appliance concept
pretty much falls into that as well. The concept of a general purpose
OS does not (I suppose they
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX
will be killed. IBM has said that officially. Development pace is slowing down.
IBM is shifting more resources to Linux. I wouldnt bet on AIX in the long term.
On the other hand, Solaris has a far larger user base
On 29/08/2010 23:34, usafverteran wrote:
Does Solaris 10 have Active Memory Expansion? Does Solaris 10 have Workload
Manager?
yes, and yes.
Both were available even before Solaris 10.
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11. Solaris has a bright future.
i don't think so. Linux has been running solaris out of the server rooms for a
long time, that is why in 2005 SUN decided to open up solaris and give solaris
away freely hoping that would attract customers. from 2005 -2009 things did
seem more promising
Unix, meaning Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, have a market and are not rapidly decreasing
as you allude to in your comment. This is a fallacy and more marketing
gibberish than anything.
Linux cannot hold a candle to AIX or Solaris on proprietary hardware and RAS
features. AIX has had features (LPARs)
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11. Solaris has a bright future.
i
] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris
11 Express
Unix, meaning Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, have a market and are not rapidly decreasing
as you allude to in your comment. This is a fallacy and more marketing
gibberish than anything.
Linux cannot hold a candle to AIX or Solaris on proprietary
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Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 3:00:37 PM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with
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11 Express
Unix, meaning Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, have a market and are not rapidly
decreasing
as you allude to in your
You said IBM with AIX 6 is copying Solaris 10 because of WPARs?
I could counter that Sun with Solaris 10 was copying AIX. srcmstr has been
around in AIX since its inception and Solaris 10 came out with SMF which is
close to the same thing.
Also, AIX has had LPARs for a decade while Sun came
@opensolaris.org
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Solaris 11 Express
Uros Nedic wrote:
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists.
Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen
@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with
Solaris 11 Express
Uros Nedic wrote:
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists.
Like Oracle Solaris name
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Uros Nedic
Excellent observation Rob. Each good intentioned opinion is
worth to be heard no matter weather they come from developersor from
spectators.
The way I remember it
Uros Nedic wrote:
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists.
Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you :).Or
Solarix Express :).
For the distros I work on, the names
Uros Nedic wrote:
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists.
Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you :).Or
Solarix Express :).
For the distros I work on, the
There is a need to start an independent forum before the decision is made to
kill this forum...any ideas or sponsors? Do we carry ads to pay for it?
Anyone know anyone at Adobe?
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There is a need to start an independent forum before
the decision is made to kill this forum...any ideas
or sponsors? Do we carry ads to pay for it?
Anyone know anyone at Adobe?Google non profit
services?
seems like somebody already started one but don't know if it is still active
On 08/23/10 11:06 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
There is a need to start an independent forum before
the decision is made to kill this forum...any ideas
or sponsors? Do we carry ads to pay for it?
Anyone know anyone at Adobe?Google non profit
services?
seems like somebody already started
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Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 12:04:58 PM
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cancelled, to be replaced with
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From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Uros Nedic
1. Lets turn the name of our fork to OS-UX. Then, we wouldleave some
LOL ... :-)
But I'm not sure you were kidding. Are you sure you want to use a product
called
Uros Nedic wrote:
Without any irony, reading all smart ideas here I felt free to
add few of them that might be useful.
1. Lets turn the name of our fork to OS-UX.
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names,
chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists.
Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you :).Or
Solarix Express :).
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From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Uros Nedic
Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you
:).Or Solarix Express :).
What's your point?
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The bad side I see, is that we won't be able to build appliances based on
Solaris 11 (nor Solaris 11 Express).
AFAIK, each appliance I would sell, would require me to register the OS by
paying the Support Subscription, and this would be each and every year...
I can't see any other OS (nor M$ nor
On 08/20/10 03:26 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
...
I can't see any other OS (nor M$ nor OSX) that to be licensed requires annual
support subscription...when you buy Wins or Macs, you pay once for your
license, that's all (unless you really want or need support from M$ or Apple).
RedHat
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 08/20/10 03:26 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
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I can't see any other OS (nor M$ nor OSX) that to be licensed requires
annual support subscription...when you buy Wins or Macs, you pay once
for your license, that's all (unless you really want or need support
from M$ or
On 08/20/10 09:41 AM, carlopmart wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 08/20/10 03:26 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
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I can't see any other OS (nor M$ nor OSX) that to be licensed
requires annual support subscription...when you buy Wins or Macs, you
pay once for your license, that's all (unless you
On 08/20/10 09:41 AM, carlopmart wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 08/20/10 03:26 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
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I can't see any other OS (nor M$ nor OSX) that to be licensed
requires annual support subscription...when you buy Wins or Macs, you
pay once for your license, that's all (unless you
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be:
The demo version of commercial Solaris 11.
Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and
limited number of CPU cores.
I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise,
that was purposely crippled to use only
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be:
The demo version of commercial Solaris 11.
Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and limited number of CPU
cores.
Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way.
(Other than the license)
Casper
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be:
The demo version of commercial Solaris 11.
Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and
limited number of CPU cores.
I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise,
that was purposely crippled to use only
Actually, Oracle is opening up Solaris 11. Solaris 10 was closed source. This
is important and no one complained on S10 being closed?
When/if Oracle incorporates fixes from Illumos, those fixes will be available
later, when Oracle releases the binary distro and the source code.
This does not
And from today, also Adam Leventhal.
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I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise,
that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space,
and CPU cores.
That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle.
Dmitry.
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Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote:
I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise,
that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space,
and CPU cores.
That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle.
In 1990 Sun did tell costomers that they
Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way.
(Other than the license)
Here it is: Oracle Database 10g Express Edition.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/express-edition/overview/index.html
Excerpt from the page above:
XE will store up to 4GB of user data, use up
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time.
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Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote:
I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwis=
e,
that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space,
and CPU cores.
That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle.
In 1990 Sun did tell costomers that
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time.
Every company has their own product naming guidelines. Express from IBM means
other thing than Express from Oracle.
Dmitry.
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What are you talking about?
XE will store up to 4GB of user data, use up to 1GB of memory, and use one CPU
on the host machine.
DB2 Express-C supports up to 2 cores (1 cpu), 2GB memory, no database size
limit, no connection limits, no user limits, 32- or 64-bit.
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What are you talking about?
I am talking about *Oracle* product, which is limited in memory usage, disk
space usage, and CPU usage, and has word Express in the product name.
Dmitry.
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On 08/19/10 10:09 AM, usafverteran wrote:
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time.
The point was the statement Name one downloadable Oracle product which
is limited in some way. (Other than the license).
Dmitry simply found one example.
Paul
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 07:34:06AM -0700, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:
What are you talking about?
I am talking about *Oracle* product, which is limited in memory
usage, disk space usage, and CPU usage, and has word Express in the
product name.
Dmitry.
Can't you use the full version of
On 08/19/10 10:09 AM, usafverteran wrote:
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time.
The point was the statement Name one downloadable Oracle product which
is limited in some way. (Other than the license).
Dmitry simply found one example.
He was right; it's
I know that is what you're talking about, but I specifically meant, what you
mean by express mean something different between IBM and Oracle, because both
of their database express products have limits.
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Some of the replies to J.S.:
Thank God this is an April Fool :-) Otherwise what would this world do
without
OpenSource Software?
Cannot imagine a day without Sun's open/free tools and technologies.
Keep it alive and kicking.
It's been always and still disappointing to me since the first
Can't you use the full version of Oracle freely as well (though not for
production use)?
Ok, maybe I can. Exactly the same way as I can use Solaris 10. My initial
thought was different - I am trying to guess what Solaris 11 Express
(successor of OpenSolaris) would be. I afraid that it may be
I afraid that it may be functionally limited - compared to full Solaris 11.
... and compared to OpenSolaris :(
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On 08/19/10 12:29 PM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:
Can't you use the full version of Oracle freely as well (though not for
production use)?
Ok, maybe I can. Exactly the same way as I can use Solaris 10. My initial
thought was different - I am trying to guess what Solaris 11 Express
We should not forget that Larry Steve are said to be old time friends.
Apple showed great interest on ZFS (as any other OS vendor, be it interest or
envy). Who knows what caused the decision to drop it? Maybe Steve was aware of
next Solaris happenings?
I see no other reason why any OS vendor
Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote:
We should not forget that Larry Steve are said to be old time friends.
Apple showed great interest on ZFS (as any other OS vendor, be it interest or
envy). Who knows what caused the decision to drop it? Maybe Steve was aware
of next Solaris
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