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> Also, if everyone becomes savvy with UNIX (very
> unlikely by the way), there would be a problem with
> finding value with all of us Network Operations
> Engineers, Systems Administrators, Enterprise
> Architects, etc., and we're already in a bind, what
> with all of this free code (for which we'
spy153,
The answer to your original question regarding the installation of
applications, is an emphatic NO! Solaris is NOT as easy as windows for the
installation of many applications.
Also, to be clear, the applications you run on Windows WILL NOT work on Solaris
without using some form of v
> (remember, you said no
> "internet").
Let me clarify:
- just because I run my applications via a web browser *does not* mean I have
to run them from the internet, nor does it mean all my data *must* reside
somewhere on the internet
- just because something is a server *does not* mean it has t
> Who builds and installs that server in the average
> person's home?
Multiple companies, competing with each other for the customer's money,
integrate the system together. A consumer (not a customer), buys it in their
local store, just like you'd buy a washing machine or a TV.
> Obviously some
> The trend in recent years is to make computers more
> accessible to users
> (it's always been a goal for general-purpose OSes
> like Windows and
> MacOS, it's being taken up by more UNIX and UNIX-like
> OSes). The
> marketplace doesn't want to have to rely on someone
> with a phD to
> administer
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 11:57 -0700, Glenn Lagasse wrote:
> * UNIX admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > You need to seriously re-examine that "network is the
> > > computer" chant, and how well it jives with the
> > > world you've described... where you've robbed the
> > > average person of their c
Eric Boutilier wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
>> Eric Boutilier wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
... See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
>>>
>>> This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
>>> now
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 11:35 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
> Well, why must it be on the Internet?
> Can't we have a server that sits in a living room or in a closet or in the
> basement, which stores all our data on encrypted disks, centrally, secured by
> ZFS?
Who builds and installs that server in
* UNIX admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > You need to seriously re-examine that "network is the
> > computer" chant, and how well it jives with the
> > world you've described... where you've robbed the
> > average person of their computing power -- and their
> > choice -- simply because they're n
> You need to seriously re-examine that "network is the
> computer" chant, and how well it jives with the
> world you've described... where you've robbed the
> average person of their computing power -- and their
> choice -- simply because they're not an expert with
> the OS *at hand*. "The networ
> Plenty but comes unwilling to pay the huge amount -
> IT is a cost centre,
> it generates no money directly for the company.
I've witnessed a lot os such companies that regarded IT as just a cost center.
Most of them are either long history by now, going bankrupt or otherwise
struggling, all t
> The only thing is getting into the people's skulls
> that they *don't* need a desktop, and that the
> network is the computer.
You need to seriously re-examine that "network is the computer" chant, and how
well it jives with the world you've described... where you've robbed the
average person
> People who have regular, reliable access to a secure
> network may not
> need a desktop, but for now, the rest of us do...
You are quite right - some problems are still present and need to be solved
before thin clients can become mainstream - like the problem of a portable thin
client. Right n
> > Making it easy to install and maintain lowers the
> > bar, ups the sales by
> > Sun in both hardware and software - all benefit from
> > this. Microsoft
> > didn't grab a huge marketshare because of Bills
> > sparkling personality -
> > I can bloody well assure you of that!
>
> If the bar need
Calum Benson wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
>
>> The only thing is getting into the people's skulls that they *don't*
>> need a desktop, and that the network is the computer.
>
> People who have regular, reliable access to a secure network may not
> need a desktop
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
> The only thing is getting into the people's skulls that they *don't*
> need a desktop, and that the network is the computer.
People who have regular, reliable access to a secure network may not
need a desktop, but for now, the rest of us do..
> And you know, the world doesn't revolve around over
> paid UNIX admins
> with craniums that reach to the ceilings. The vast
> majority of companies
> out there are small to medium size, less than 100
> people with servers
> being maintained by someone who has an IT
> qualification from their loca
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 03:53 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
> > Hopefully by the time Solaris 11 will be released, it
> > will be a
> > professional distribution which has had attention
> > spent not only on the
> > technical aspects by the interface in which
> > administrators interact with
> > the opera
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
> Eric Boutilier wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
>>> ... See:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
>>
>> This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
>> now more than ever which install cl
> Hopefully by the time Solaris 11 will be released, it
> will be a
> professional distribution which has had attention
> spent not only on the
> technical aspects by the interface in which
> administrators interact with
> the operating system.
If it's a 'professional' distribution, then we don't
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:14 -0400, Dave Miner wrote:
> UNIX admin wrote:
> >> can we not take a look at project caiman now? I
> >> would think that there is a
> >> prototype stage at this point.
> >
> > Yes, but it's not finished, and according to Dave Miner, it doesn't install
> > anything yet.
Eric Boutilier wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
>> ... See:
>>
>> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
>
> This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
> now more than ever which install clusters do/don't contain
> non-redistributable f
Eric Boutilier wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
>> ... See:
>>
>> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
>
> This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
> now more than ever which install clusters do/don't contain
> non-redistributable f
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
> ... See:
>
> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
This news (which I think is *awesome*, by the way) makes me wonder
now more than ever which install clusters do/don't contain
non-redistributable files (if any).
http://mail.opensola
> Old information. See:
>
> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/indiana_installer_prototype
That is the one I was referring to. You wrote yourself:
"It's still rather rough, since the version of the UI package that I'm
using wasn't fully functional at the time I grabbed it.
In particular, you mus
UNIX admin wrote:
>> can we not take a look at project caiman now? I
>> would think that there is a
>> prototype stage at this point.
>
> Yes, but it's not finished, and according to Dave Miner, it doesn't install
> anything yet.
>
Old information. See:
http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/ind
games-discuss seems to be the best place for people interested
in wine on OpenSolaris these days.
Via Jive forum:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=97
Via "listserv" (Mailman actually):
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/games-discuss
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On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 08:06 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
> >> I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not
> >> work with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3
> >> players. Is it compatible? Als
>
> > On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
> >> I would like to start using solaris., however, I
> am afraid it will not
> >> work with my children's' media devices such as
> their cameras and mp3
> or just download it :
>
> http://www.blastwave.org/wine/
/usr/local/? Surely you j
> can we not take a look at project caiman now? I
> would think that there is a
> prototype stage at this point.
Yes, but it's not finished, and according to Dave Miner, it doesn't install
anything yet.
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> On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
>> I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not
>> work with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3
>> players. Is it compatible? Also, a concern of mine is it as easy as
>> windows to install pro
external devices.
>> Solaris has a very good support for USB devices. So, don't worry about it.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Allen
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of you
>> dunno
>> S
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 18:01 -0700, you dunno wrote:
> I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not
> work with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3
> players. Is it compatible? Also, a concern of mine is it as easy as
> windows to install programs?
gt; -Original Message-
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> Sent: 2007年7月23日 9:02
> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, can you answer some questions please?
>
> I would like to start u
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of you dunno
Sent: 2007年7月23日 9:02
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Subject: [osol-discuss] new to solaris, can you answer some questions please?
I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not work
wi
I would like to start using solaris., however, I am afraid it will not work
with my children's' media devices such as their cameras and mp3 players. Is it
compatible? Also, a concern of mine is it as easy as windows to install
programs? (just install and setup? No codes, no muss, no fuss?)
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