Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
>> > They also might only be interested in a subforum that has 5-10
>> > posts
>> > per day. Consider and compare the volume of this list to a few
>> > posts in a subforum of interest,
>> > that they can access, read, and leave at their liesure. Are you
>> > sure an emai
On 01/30/2006 01:06 AM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> You can't create a forum simply by configuring the appropriate software
> and (s)electing some fellows as moderators.
> A good forum is a "side product" of good moderators.
Just what I said above (or wanted to say and could not?).
> This is a
Hi,
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
First of all, let me say that the discussion-wiki-page is quite
"ripping sentences from the context".
On 01/27/2006 08:59 PM Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
"unless such a forum is bi-directionally gated to e.g. this mailing-list, it
will only cause a
First of all, let me say that the discussion-wiki-page is quite
"ripping sentences from the context".
On 01/27/2006 08:59 PM Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> "unless such a forum is bi-directionally gated to e.g. this mailing-list, it
> will only cause a split in the community"
What the one could hav
At 10:50 PM 26/01/2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
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> 2/ a newbie can usually understand what another newbie is asking
better than
> an expert!
Sure he can understand, but can he solve the problem?
not always, but she/he can also paraphrase the question into the
manner that an
"expert" und
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:53, Michael K. Dolan Jr. wrote:
> It is possible to integrate mailing lists and forums... this is not a
> binary choice. That way an email to the list shows up under the thread
> subject in the forum and vice-versa (a post on the forum shoots out to
> the list...)
I ne
It is possible to integrate mailing lists and forums... this is not a
binary choice. That way an email to the list shows up under the thread
subject in the forum and vice-versa (a post on the forum shoots out to
the list...)
I see no reason not to at least mirror these mailing list discussions
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:02, Per Jessen wrote:
> Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > Now, in regards to the wiki forum discussion results page, I have to
> > comment on a few things:
> >
> > "unless such a forum is bi-directionally gated to e.g. this
> > mailing-list, it will only cause a split in the
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> Now, in regards to the wiki forum discussion results page, I have to
> comment on a few things:
>
> "unless such a forum is bi-directionally gated to e.g. this
> mailing-list, it will only cause a split in the community"
>
> How? The primary people who would be using t
On Friday 27 January 2006 11:10, houghi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:34:16AM -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > Henne, I will gladly contact every forum I know of, I have no problems
> > doing so. I seem to think I'm occasionally personable ;) However, I
> > don't know the owners, and may
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:34:16AM -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> Henne, I will gladly contact every forum I know of, I have no problems doing
> so. I seem to think I'm occasionally personable ;) However, I don't know
> the owners, and may not be best suited to contact them. Is there anyone
On Thursday 26 January 2006 17:16, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 January 2006 16:48, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >> You are forgetting a point I've made at the very beginning of this
> >> thread, which I think to be very important.
> >>
> >> If there is an official f
Per Jessen wrote:
> For each forum (categorised by language and/or subject), a mailing-list
> will serve as the master. That gives us an email-interface right away.
> For convenience for those of us who are used to USENET, we add a
> newsserver as a slave and for those of us who like the webforu
Johannes Kastl wrote:
>> see a problem. Just get going - it can't be that difficult bolting
>> on a webforum *slave* to the mailing-list *master*.
>
> I think the problem is IF they work properly...
One thing I forgot to add - if we've now reduced the debate to a purely
technical issue, surely
Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 1/26/2006 7:29 PM Per Jessen wrote:
>
>> There are various examples of this out there already, some good, some
>> bad. At linuxprinting.org they run mailing-lists bi-dir gated to a
>> forum. At isc.org they run mailing-lists bi-dir gated to a
>> newsgroup. gmane.org i
On 1/26/2006 7:29 PM Per Jessen wrote:
> There are various examples of this out there already, some good, some
> bad. At linuxprinting.org they run mailing-lists bi-dir gated to a
> forum. At isc.org they run mailing-lists bi-dir gated to a newsgroup.
> gmane.org is probably the best-known exam
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> On Thursday 26 January 2006 16:48, Pascal Bleser wrote:
...
>> You are forgetting a point I've made at the very beginning of this thread,
>> which I think to be very important.
>>
>> If there is an official forum, you will *N
On Thursday 26 January 2006 16:48, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > 1) Is this shunning the existing community?
> >
> > I don't believe so, I believe this is unifying the community, by having a
> > central, official, place for SUSE on the web in the form of a forum.
> > That sai
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Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> I'm going to try and sum things up, since there were a ton of mails since I
> last checked last night.
>
> The biggest reasons for opposition to a forum:
>
> 1) Is this shunning the existing community?
>
> I don't believe
Hi Sonja,
Sonja Krause-Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
>Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
>community forums?
For me personally a mailing-list or a newsgroup is all I need.
But as Houghi say
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 07:30:56PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>
> > When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him -- that's where
> > the money is.
> > -- Robespierre
>
> Did Robespierre really say that? It sounds a little anachronistic.
No idea. It is 'fortune -s' that put
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 18:14 +0100, houghi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:29:16PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> > I don't know if it's a good idea. why will them discard they
> > forum for our? or make a competition?
> >
> > why not first ask the actual community?
>
> As you have experience in forums,
houghi wrote:
> When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him -- that's where
> the money is.
> -- Robespierre
Did Robespierre really say that? It sounds a little anachronistic.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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To unsubscribe,
Boy, you guys are busy - I can't keep up with the list at this rate.
I know I've mentioned this at least a couple of times, and others too,
but:
why aren't we talking about one forum (not interface, just forum) with
three interfaces:
1) regular mailing-list style
2) USENET style (i.e. a news
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 06:34:42PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> houghi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:29:16PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> >> I don't know if it's a good idea. why will them discard they
> >> forum for our? or make a competition?
> >>
> >> why not first ask the actual community?
> >
> > As yo
houghi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:29:16PM +0100, jdd wrote:
>> I don't know if it's a good idea. why will them discard they
>> forum for our? or make a competition?
>>
>> why not first ask the actual community?
>
> As you have experience in forums, could you ask it? Guessing what or what
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:29:16PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> I don't know if it's a good idea. why will them discard they
> forum for our? or make a competition?
>
> why not first ask the actual community?
As you have experience in forums, could you ask it? Guessing what or what
not their opinion is is
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:22:12PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> I think you made a very good point some mails ago:
Ok, I get it. I should shut up now. ;-)
houghi
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Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> I'm going to try and sum things up, since there were a ton of mails since I
> last checked last night.
a agree with mostly if not all what you say...
jdd
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Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:59:26PM +0100, jdd wrote:
>> the problem is not "why should we have a forum", but "what
>> work will a forum give to the corps"
>
> No, this is not the question. If it turns out that the forums are indeed
> a high priority, we'll find a way.
I'm going to try and sum things up, since there were a ton of mails since I
last checked last night.
The biggest reasons for opposition to a forum:
1) Is this shunning the existing community?
I don't believe so, I believe this is unifying the community, by having a
central, official, place for
I am a moderator of a web forum. We do have a SUSE section. Sure moderation is
needed. But building a new one is it really necessary?
Pascal mentioned that forum do not have threads but some has, like simple
machines. Maling groups should remain. I am a member of the SUSE mail lists
since my fi
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:59:26PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> the problem is not "why should we have a forum", but "what
> work will a forum give to the corps"
No, this is not the question. If it turns out that the forums are indeed
a high priority, we'll find a way.
> so the real problem is
>
> * shou
Johannes Kastl wrote:
> I agree. But: There has to be one to answer their first questions. And
> that is where I fear it might be bad when no "experts" /advanced
> newbies/... are around.
there is always somebody to answer... in all the
forum/news/mailing list I ever know
jdd
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I think we are largely going nowhere, here, questions should
be serialized.
the problem is not "why should we have a forum", but "what
work will a forum give to the corps"
if no work, we _must_ have one. we must have all and any
interface needed by say... a handfull of users.
so work???
The wor
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:12:51PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:53:42PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > But I only wanted to point out that some people are needed to run a
> > forum, as it is with a mailinglist or a newsgroup.
>
> So I gather that you agree that there should
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:53:42PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> But I only wanted to point out that some people are needed to run a
> forum, as it is with a mailinglist or a newsgroup.
So I gather that you agree that there should be a forum? Once the answer
if we want a forum yes or no, then we
On 1/26/2006 2:24 PM Christian Boltz wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 23:25 schrieb Jan Karjalainen:
>> - Dial-up connections aren´t fast enough for downloading a couple of
>> hundred mails each day, many of which you don´t have any interest in.
>
> *LoL* - this is the "funniest" reason for
On 1/26/2006 2:28 PM houghi wrote:
> What a search tought me that it is not a quete but a proverb.
> A nice page with things is
> http://hometown.aol.co.uk/__121b_to4QVH5i2klgUkKMiKRCJLDehhFZXVBBG5yvEPwIfumvq6Nmnf5zpA==
> This then brought memories of
> http://www.quehubo.com/eng/lyrics/index.php?
On 1/26/2006 2:19 PM houghi wrote:
> I see the same thing on Usenet. People get in, post questions and suddenly
> they start answering. Almost all express their pride when the answer is
> correct. You can almost see the smile on their face as if they are a baby
> taking its first steps.
I agree.
On 1/26/2006 1:44 PM Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> Maybe, but then, as explained above, I need a clear picture what
> "openSUSE" as a project "wants".
>
> Be aware that the sword is double-edged - if you insist on the officials
> doing everything, you end up with the officials doing everything...
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:56:11PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 1/25/2006 11:28 PM Peter Flodin wrote:
>
> > Yes it does sound arrogant...:-) reminds me of the quote:
> > "Everyone you meet knows something you don't. Learn from them"
>
> Do you know where that is from? Would be a good signat
Hello,
Am Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 23:25 schrieb Jan Karjalainen:
> I think there is a need for a forum, for a couple of reasons:
>
> - The ability to easily search for answers. When you get a reply
> stating "this was discussed in December, search the list", a newbie
> really doesn´t have a clue
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 06:36 -0600, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:25, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> > The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web
> > forum? Why?
>
> No:
>
> Unnecessary waste of energy that could be used elsewhere.
>
As a non-technical u
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:50:58PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > 2/ a newbie can usually understand what another newbie is asking better than
> > an expert!
>
> Sure he can understand, but can he solve the problem?
Yes. It depends on the problem. If the question is where to change the
repeat s
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 01:14:24PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> I had hoped that one or two of them were lurking on this list and would
> speak up now. Before I "officially" address the other forums I would
> like to know what we, you, the opensuse community would want to offer
> them. Besid
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 01:36:49PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 1/26/2006 1:14 PM Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
>
> > I had hoped that one or two of them were lurking on this list and would
> > speak up now. Before I "officially" address the other forums I would
> > like to know what we, you, th
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 08:25, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web
> forum? Why?
No:
Unnecessary waste of energy that could be used elsewhere.
Adds confusion (and just when we've decided to have only one same
version of SUSE...).
Re
On 1/26/2006 1:14 PM Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> I had hoped that one or two of them were lurking on this list and would
> speak up now. Before I "officially" address the other forums I would
> like to know what we, you, the opensuse community would want to offer
> them. Besides, anybody can go t
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 04:01:16PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> Also it would be nice to know what the maintainers of the larger Linux
> forums are thinking about this, so ask them. :-)
I had hoped that one or two of them were lurking on this list and would
speak up now. Before I "officially" address t
On 1/25/2006 11:28 PM Peter Flodin wrote:
> Yes it does sound arrogant...:-) reminds me of the quote:
> "Everyone you meet knows something you don't. Learn from them"
Do you know where that is from? Would be a good signature ;-)
> I dispute that it is of no use, the sharing of information and
>
First of all, all of this is NOT meant arrogant or disrespective or
whatever it may sound like. I still consider myself a newbie, as there
are a lot of things I just dont know.
On 1/26/2006 3:18 AM scsijon wrote:
> 1/ an expert is someone who was once a newbie!
Sure. When learned. From someone o
Hi,
On Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 12:36:41, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 1/26/2006 1:27 AM Christoph Thiel wrote:
>
> >> Are you talking of the OpenSuse-list now or the suse-linux-german?
> >
> > Both.
>
> OK, then could you inform us when it should work?
Sure will do...
Henne
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On 1/26/2006 1:27 AM Christoph Thiel wrote:
>> Are you talking of the OpenSuse-list now or the suse-linux-german?
>
> Both.
OK, then could you inform us when it should work?
Thanks,
OJ
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At 09:28 AM 26/01/2006, Peter Flodin wrote:
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> An official forum full of newbies and no "experts" is no use to any one.
1/ an expert is someone who was once a newbie!
2/ a newbie can usually understand what another newbie is asking better than
an expert!
scsijon
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At 05:04 AM 26/01/2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
On 01/25/2006 05:14 PM Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> sorry to tell you ... modern forums can do threading.
OK, then I was wrong. But all the forums I know are not able, thats
why I thought it was not possible.
OJ
just look at W3's own Forum, It does
At 02:03 AM 26/01/2006, Pascal Bleser wrote:
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Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
...
> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
I'm not a fr
> From: houghi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To look at it in a broader and more positive way (for those who do NOT
> want it) it is the breeding ground of the future wizzards. Some of the
> people will be staring to use the mailinglists as well.
I prefer mailing-lists, but I used forums a lot in
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 01:39:12AM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Peter Flodin wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > ps. Why are the biggest critics of a web forum, people who would never
> > use it?
>
> Very well said! (I don't think it's a secret that I'm an advocate of
> official web
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Peter Flodin wrote:
[...]
> ps. Why are the biggest critics of a web forum, people who would never
> use it?
Very well said! (I don't think it's a secret that I'm an advocate of
official web forums ;))
Regards
Christoph
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 01/25/2006 05:21 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>
> > No need to. It does not work with the current mailinglist setup. But it
> > will in the future..
>
> Are you talking of the OpenSuse-list now or the suse-linux-german?
Both.
Regards
Christ
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > Web forums promotes communication between people no matter what their
> > technical level. Mailing lists very nearly discourage newbies from
> > helping newbies, as mailing lists usually stop this by complaining
> > about the w
On 1/26/06, Johannes Kastl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And who will listen and help? How many people ("good people" sounds
> very bad and arrogant, but I mean the ones "knowing" things) will
> there be?
Yes it does sound arrogant...:-) reminds me of the quote:
"Everyone you meet knows something y
I think there is a need for a forum, for a couple of reasons:
- The ability to easily search for answers. When you get a reply stating
"this was discussed in December, search the list", a newbie really
doesn´t have a clue how or where to search. Compare this to the search
funtionality of a for
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:58:50AM +1100, Peter Flodin wrote:
> There is an army of users without a voice, give them one...
My thoughts exactly. I still think it would be good to ask the existing
forums what their thoughts are.
houghi
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On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 08:58 +1100, Peter Flodin wrote:
> On 1/26/06, Sonja Krause-Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> > community forums?
>
> The why:
>
> Web forums promotes communication between people no matter what their
>
On 01/25/2006 10:58 PM Peter Flodin wrote:
> Web forums promotes communication between people no matter what their
> technical level. Mailing lists very nearly discourage newbies from
> helping newbies, as mailing lists usually stop this by complaining
> about the wrong quoting method or posting
On 1/26/06, Sonja Krause-Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
The why:
Web forums promotes communication between people no matter what their
technical level. Mailing lists very nearly discourage newbies from
hel
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:17:12PM -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> I think what he means is, if the error can be duplicated by someone who is
> familiar with bugzilla/is on the mailing list, they can make the bug
> report/post to the list.
Yes. If you suddenly see a dicussion of "I can't do th
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 07:39:52PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>
> > The main problem that there are only these more technical savy people
> > is BECAUSE there is no forum. At this moment the technical less savy
> > people do not have a say on openSUSE.
>
> Sure they do. Anyone is p
houghi wrote:
> The main problem that there are only these more technical savy people
> is BECAUSE there is no forum. At this moment the technical less savy
> people do not have a say on openSUSE.
Sure they do. Anyone is perfectly welcome to participate, regardless of
level of technical expertis
Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
Dear Sonja.
I believe many people perceive a need for a webforum, but unless such a
forum is bi-directionall
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 13:07, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 01/25/2006 04:35 PM houghi wrote:
> > I see on Usenet people asking for enhancements or sugesting things. When
> > I tell them to either post a bugreport or subscribe to the mailinglist,
> > the people find this to cumbersome to do.
> >
On 01/25/2006 06:36 PM Daniel Hatfield wrote:
> Here's my only problem with them: I log into 3
> different sites, I usually end up posting on 3 different sites, I search
> for my answers on 3 different sites, I look for people to help on three
> different sites. Honestly, this has caused me to b
On 01/25/2006 04:35 PM houghi wrote:
> I see on Usenet people asking for enhancements or sugesting things. When I
> tell them to either post a bugreport or subscribe to the mailinglist, the
> people find this to cumbersome to do.
>
> When you have a forum, the people will contribute easier. It wo
On 01/25/2006 05:14 PM Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> sorry to tell you ... modern forums can do threading.
OK, then I was wrong. But all the forums I know are not able, thats
why I thought it was not possible.
OJ
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On 01/25/2006 05:21 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> No need to. It does not work with the current mailinglist setup. But it
> will in the future..
Are you talking of the OpenSuse-list now or the suse-linux-german?
OJ
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> From: Sonja Krause-Harder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
Here's my 2 cents. I don't mind using the existing community forums for
Suse, but
Hello,
Am Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2006 16:39 schrieb Johannes Kastl:
> Also, "Threading" is not possible in forums. You dont see who someone
> is replying to.
It depends on the forum software ;-)
Many forums use a flat structure (all answers below the question), but
AFAIK there's also software tha
Hi,
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 17:19:45, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 01/25/2006 04:45 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>
> > What was a mess? Could you be a little more specific?
>
> Whatever I did, I could not "post" to the newsgroup. I dont know what
> went wrong.
>
> But I'll have a try this
On 01/25/2006 04:45 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> What was a mess? Could you be a little more specific?
Whatever I did, I could not "post" to the newsgroup. I dont know what
went wrong.
But I'll have a try this evening, and see if it works. Ill tell you.
OJ
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On 2006-01-25 16:39:37 +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> Also, "Threading" is not possible in forums. You dont see who someone
> is replying to.
sorry to tell you ... modern forums can do threading.
vBulletin is one example where it know it definitely. IPB i think
aswell. and i think one could add a
Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> - We do not want to take resources away from the distribution itself or
> the work on the build service to set up and maintain a web forum, as
> we don't see it as a high priority for the openSUSE project at the
> moment. If you don't agree, we would like to hear
Hi,
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 16:43:55, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 01/25/2006 03:46 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 15:38:06, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> >> Henne, do we have plans for mail to NNTP?
> >
> > We will use the existing ones ;)
> >
> > gmane.
On 01/25/2006 03:46 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 15:38:06, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
>> Henne, do we have plans for mail to NNTP?
>
> We will use the existing ones ;)
>
> gmane.org + nomail subscription
I tried posting to the suse-linux (german) list some years
On 01/25/2006 04:01 PM houghi wrote:
> There also is a HUGE disadvatage: quoting. In Email and on Usenet
> messages are generaly included. On Forums this often is not the
> case. (A reason why I dislike forums)
Also, "Threading" is not possible in forums. You dont see who someone
is replying to.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 04:03:16PM +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> 1. Don't work against the community
> ~~~
> 2. Legal
>
> 3. Don't split the expertise
>
1 and 3 can be solved by asking what the people of the existing comun
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 09:25, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
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> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
I think so. The communicate page does give all the users a way to find
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:38:06PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:35:07PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > BTW: How about a newsgroup? Or a (working) mail2news-Gateway?
>
> Ok, I forgot to mention that, sorry: the Novell forums have a NNTP
> gateway. Henne, do we ha
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Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
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> The first question is: do we need/want an official openSUSE web forum?
> Why? What would you expect from it, compared to the existing SUSE
> community forums?
I'm not a friend of forums myself, but it seems like many p
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:25:30PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> Which solution would you prefer (including those not in my list)?
>
> I know I'm asking quite a complex question here ;-)
I personaly myself am not that much interested in a forum. A lot of people
rather use a forem, so I thin
Hi,
On Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 15:38:06, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:35:07PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > BTW: How about a newsgroup? Or a (working) mail2news-Gateway?
>
> Ok, I forgot to mention that, sorry: the Novell forums have a NNTP
> gateway. Henne,
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:35:07PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> BTW: How about a newsgroup? Or a (working) mail2news-Gateway?
Ok, I forgot to mention that, sorry: the Novell forums have a NNTP
gateway. Henne, do we have plans for mail to NNTP?
Sonja
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Hello Sonja, Hello List,
On 01/25/2006 03:25 PM Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> Possible solutions right now would be:
>
> - Do not change anything. We link to established web forums in the SUSE
> community from the "Communicate" page in the wiki. Everybody looking
> for a forum should find on
Hi,
We briefly discussed the topic "official openSUSE forums" in yesterday's
openSUSE IRC meeting. You can find the meeting minutes and the IRC log
at http://www.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting . (The forum
discussion starts at timestamp 19:08 in the logs ;-).)
It was decided to take the d
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