hold space for all that was happening. Indeed, many
of the participants found that they were experiencing a hightened sense of
reality on that day.
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
- Original Message -
From: "Lisa"
To:
Sent: Thursday, Septemb
Plexus Institute Thursday Complexity Postsome new self-organizing technology
forms!!
this came viaPlexus Institue - Harrison - I believe you made contact with them
at one point?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
Can't read your Plexus TCP? Click he
sibility
THis could bea nifty little list. Anyone want to continue?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
- Original Message -
From: "Robyn"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fear and control
> Hi
>
> RE:
>
ed.
It sure isn't up to us to control it!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
- Original Message -
From: Chris Corrigan
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: outcomes and one-off OST
27;drivers' in each of these areas, and ultimately lead to
better quantitative measures [which often seem to be pulled out of a hat].
don't let the language dissuade you - GO for it!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
anced Scorecard (BSC) is the inv
Hello Harrison
I hope all is going well post surgery and that the red hot poker is
receeding.
Whatever shall we do when you come at the world with both eyes fully
blazing?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
- Original Message -
From: "Harrison Owen
er who is held accountable, as it is they who [should
have] ... agreed to have me on the job, trained and coached me, secured the
resources, budget etc to help me do my job. Found more often in the breach than
in fact!
food for thought/conversation?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
Message
- Original Message -
From: Meg Salter
To: m...@southbankmc.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: OST in Banking
Hi Mick
I have successfully used OST with a number of groups of the Canadian Imperial
Bank of Commerce, and I know that others have used it
igger self...to tranparent!
Happy new year all!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: Harrison Owen
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject:
- and
other nasty sorts. Tough to deal with, and serve a useful role. It's certainly
the way I've been forced to pau attention to things in life - dealing with the
tough spots, not the smooth sailing!!
Happy new year to all!!
Meg Salter
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
>
> From: Judi Richar
mindulness...whatever ...)
When things are getting Really Weird, e.g. opening space the morning of
Sept 11., a manic-depressive woman pacing the room counter-clockwise during
first round of break-outs, I personally resort to active (desperate?)
meditation practice. And wonders seem to happen!
in more structured
events, and I always try to make the question open-ended enough that people
will say what they want to say anyway!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr.&
"opposite" - anger, fear, jealousy.. and hold them
until a resolution naturally appears.
.Easy to say, life-long task to do!!
Best to all - will be with you in spirit for 3 pm meditation!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.
certainly is amazing to watch... food for thought elsewhere?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> --
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
> view the
ivine... and means variously sacred unity, the
ultimate power/potential/ the One with no opposite.. God is based on a
German root work meaning good. Goodness may be one aspect of the divine, but
is not the same as unity. Goodness does not, by definition, include
everything
..wherever we turn
Hi Glory
could you send me your e-mail address (I'm getting an error message).
Would like to continue off-list.
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: "Glory Ressler"
To:
Sent: Tuesday,
to not be overly tightly "branded"
by a specific method and use complementary processes where appropriate. And
most clients can acknowledge that they are dealing with complexity -many
variables, fast changing, many stakeholders, uncertain outcomes......
the whole deal!
Meg Salter
ce in letting go, well, that's normal at first
too! Any mothers out there will know that letting go/ letting open in
birthing a baby can be very hard work! At some point, we will have so "let
go" that we hold space all the time - it is just how we live our lives....
breathing in, b
e ("whatever happens...") What I can do is to skip around
sewing little grains of openness as I go, and when the timing is right... the
change will happen!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
the greatest gifts of the facilitator is their appearance of confidence/ faith
in the participants. Going through that birth canal, you may not be sure if you
can make it. Having someone else provide that sense gives one the hope that
their might just be something at the other end!
Meg Salter
Meg
to the bare essentials (and I
think he does this well) and 2) to expose some of the toxic elements
prevalent in much of current "correct" thinking that is in fact holding us
back hugely.
This is definitely a book with attitude - read it if you want to go for a
bit of a wild ride!
Meg S
ing go of the meeting etc. you just came from, beginning
to access in whatever way possible the larger "tuning fork" that will be the
group. whatever!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message
the
matter.
...with a frown and a smile!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
Toronto, Canada
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
s is some lower right,
collective exterior work, in addition to the all important inner and process
work.
Take care all!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: Winston Kinch
To: osl...@list
ss moves to the
only place it can - next level on the spiral.
...anyway, to my mind, they all "grok" beautifully together!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: "McInerney"
To:
Sen
ompassing "umbrella" type statement that could have many
sub-components. Other views???
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
> One interesting thing that happens over and over again is that the
> issue with the highest pr
g new language (ie a new fad!). He seems to have
some knowledge of Appreciative Inquiry, and none of OpenSpace (so at least
he doesn't trash H.O. or OST!) and what he's talking about has something to
do with the practice of peace - I think!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
m
POSITION OF INTEREST TO ACCORD MEMBERSOf interest to people on this list?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
Pasted below and attached is an announcement for a position available with
Brandeis University's Slifka Progr
My sentiments exactly!
Meg
- Original Message -
From: "Joelle Lyons Everett"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Director of Master's Program in Intercommuncal Coexostence
> Meg--
>
> I'm not qualified for this position, but find it very heartening to know
that
hing?
Or is it just most of these folks are doing the same old thing (you know -
being the expert) but speaking new language?
Something in my gut is really sticking on this one.....!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
...the pebbles continue to drop in the pools of my mind.!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: Harrison Owen
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Friday, September 27,
creating and testing hypotheses, looking for/ diagnosing where the energy
is, self-selection based on interest and expertise within a theme,
uncovering barriers and opportunities for health... ad
nauseam!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
terms, this is like defining the scope, themes and givens.
..my meanderings joining yours!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: "Julie Smith"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 28, 20
we had one on toronto a few blocks from where we live - which I only read about
in the paper.
"There is no point - that's the point" said one yong man. just having fun.
definitely not serious or in control My 15 year old daughter would SO like to
go. a new wave com
t [or less?] the more I think that all we
can really do is the letting go - and be open to whatever flows through in
its place. maybe life?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
(416) 486-6660
m...@megsalter.com
- Original Message -
From: "Joelle Lyons Everett"
To:
Sent: Friday, Aug
long link to - a
potential outside the network. . a space meta to the network?.. a link to
enspiritng energy that is the source of all new creative potential???
And then I wonder too, why in so many spiritual traditions, the link to the
teacher is considered critical... another long link?
Meg
that.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> Bowen Island, BC, Canada
> http://www.chriscorrigan.com
> ch...@chriscorrigan.com
> (604) 947-9236
>
> -Original Message-
> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Meg
> Salter
tine Letts,
William Ryan and Allen Grossman, 1999 John Wiley.
Hope this helps.
Meg Salter
re - well that's a different story!)
Many thanks I'm looking forward to some interesting stuff!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416-486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
inning to successfully kick) wonderfully subversive prose, and no Virginia,
there really is no such thing as total control!!
Once again - thanks to all!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
ganization, not in the founder. (i.e. we're still a
long way from inter-active!).
Does anyone have any experience in this kind of situation?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consultants
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Peterson"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 200
Thank you Larry and Richard
Your messages both make sense. Open Space both as a space (e.g. the
inter-active organization, coral meme, whatever) and as a gateway from
wherever you are (e.g. blue meme) to peek experiences of higher levels,
(yellow, coral) But you still have todo the work to move a
space is really
open, you don't need that many words to communicate!! Great idea - go for
it!
Meg Salter
- Original Message -
From: "john engle"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: Berlin Connection
> friends in open space,
>
> ... just a quic
ive
organization. But I have to speak the language of the client here, and they are
just a little overwhelmed by the amount of spirit that has popped out of the
bag, and what to do next!!
With all my thanks... Meg Salter
Well, I guess there's hope for us all, after all!!
I read somewhere that the Internet (and, by extension, computers) do for
brain power what steam, railroads etc. did for muscle power in the
Industrial Revolution. Picking up on notions like Maslow's hierarchy, and
Spiral Dynamics, and even Owen (!
I love that - the "King of Orange" reaches new perspectives (green) through
ailing babies and hungry mothers!
Re the use of OST and the spiral - I remember Larry Petersen had some
interesting perspectives to share on this list a few months ago. As I
recall, the gist of it was that a predominantly
What a great dialogue!!
Re multi-polarities:
Wasn't it Einstein who said that any real (intransigent) problem was never
solved by the mindset that created it? So any set of polarities is the
outcome of a particular mindset/consciousness. And - as you said (and so
does complexity theory) the only
I haven't used OS directly in this manner, but I do have a background in
marketing and market research, and I think it should work! As you note, key
will be to determine the givens and the question.
Pls. let us know if it goes this way! I am always looking for ways to use
OS - gently and subtly pe
space, and it provides a strong container for what can be very
different views. Dialogue techniques can also serve for a group to unearth
how they want to behave - hopefully at a profound level - but it can take a
long time to get there.
Meg Salter
- Original Message -
From: "Don Fer
I find this fascinating - and agree that (mostly) real change will come when
a "behaviour rule change" comes from outside the group. This is exactly the
definition of 2nd order change or transformational change "changes to the
body of rules governing their structure or internal order". [For you
sch
This gets to be a really interesting discussion around "bad"; whose definition?
bad for whom?
For me, the notions of evolving levels of consciousness/ Spirit come into play
here - see Spiral Dynamics (earlier threads in this listserve) and also
Harrison's "Stages Along Sprit's Way" in the Power
nt Driven Open Space Principles and Laws
> At 10:41 28-11-2000 -0500, Meg Salter wrote:
> >I find this fascinating - and agree that (mostly) real change will come
when
> >a "behaviour rule change" comes from outside the group. This is exactly
the
> >definition of 2nd o
Someone put a reference on the list serve recently about the use of OpenSpace
in a knowledge management context - I think it may have been with one of the
big consultancies. There was a referral to a web link. I managed to have lost
this! Can someone refer me?? thanks..
mpassion and clarity, love and
wisdom, ascending and descending energy, and then the notion of
detachment/ emptiness/ transparency / that allows one to perceive the
non-duality of seeming opposites. (also akin to holding paradox).
So - these are some of my teachers along the way!
Meg Salter
--
, although with somewhat less ease. I have always observed that her own
inner connections were quite deep.
I myself haven't tried (although maybe I should after meditating?) - but I
have observed and know it to be true.
Meg Salter
- Original Message -
From: "Don Ferretti"
To:
oia/ vibes.......?
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
Original Message -
From: David C. Rupley, Jr., MD(H)
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: facilitating metanoia? (formerly"Part three OST wit
intent and depth
of personal practice. - which leads us to the preparation of the facilitator
for Open Space...!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: Harrison Owen
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Friday, February 02
ng to do you job!! You
are invisible in you role and totally present in your person!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg/sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: Chris Weaver
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:04 AM
Subject: playbac
rs.
Anyway, this latest is a good read, pretty accessible (a bit less of a
firehose!) You may want to try it for yourself!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Aitken"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 3:57 PM
Subje
?
Many thanks...
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
Toronto, Canada
416.486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
ocess
- sometimes I lilke to take stock organizational phrases and turn them on
their head, have fun with it, address the (not so) secret gripes that most
people have about being left out, or that their voice will be taken
seriously.
Hope this helps!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympati
. ever grateful to the
vast experience and wisdom we collectively access!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
Thank you all in OS List-land. Your comments gave me good practical ideas and
the confidence to let go of over control.
Someone should design a comic strip figure - the mis-adventures of Mr/Ms
controlfreak in interactive open space. Personally, I never got past grade 1
stick figures - but it sur
doing so - like they will have to
work together later!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: "Don Ferretti"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject: Small systems large systems
> Laura,
>
> I had a similar
e gone through
major downsizings.)
Anyway - food for thought - wonderful work, all of you!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
- Original Message -
From: "Glory Ressler"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Novosibirsk
the
people, spreads all kinds of good energy, and provides tremendous momentum
in achieving business results. ("We accomplished more in one hour than we
have in the last 6 months.")
My thoughts for the moment...
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
-
PM
Subject: Re: Novosibirsk reflections continued
> hm
>
> thank you, Meg
>
> it is a time
>
> and we are not the people who are understood at once
> but we are working on that
>
> best wishes to you
> elena
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Meg Salter
&g
I think there's a simple approach to this one, too.
"Two steps forward, one step back" - that's how learning works, lurching
right along.
Because letting go is so hard to do.
Because there are layers and layers of letting go, and it never stops.
etc. etc.
Meg Salter
MegaSpac
themselves - into a wide open, simple awareness
and the open space?
For me, it is what happens after the letting go - that (sometimes long and
dark) corridor between the old door and the new one
And sometimes it is the state of awareness itself - for a brief flash...
Or something like that??
FW: Osprey & Open Space..What a lovely combination of open space, seeming
randomness and full presence and awareness!
Meg Salter
- Original Message -
From: Peggy Holman
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:58 PM
Subject: Fw: Osprey & Op
out there taken training in Spiral Dynamics,
used it as complement/ in conjunction with Open Space? I'm really intrigued by
their concepts, but do wonder if their model on how to implement large scale
change is a bit too "controlling".
many thanks
Meg Salter
MegaSpace C
ll be the collective
statement" from Thich Nhat Hanh!!
for those of you who want to read some of his work, I have enjoyed "Peace is
Every Step", and "Living Buddha, Living Christ".
All in one. and one in all!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@s
larity and compassion. And if there is a
strong enough container - love, presence, holding the space, then a whole
new level of truth emerges, one that is bigger than, "transcends and
includes" the smaller truths.
these are my morning ramblings... take care all!
Meg
" piece is very
grounding. The more fully I (or a group or organization) can express a new
"perception/reality/truth" the more fully real it becomes.
:) :)
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
ace. Holding space. Sucking up that dark, ugly smoke, and in the
alchemy of our heart, hands and heads, turning it into light.
holding hands with all of you
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
Toronto, Canada
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@
Yes, of course
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: "Diane Gibeault"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Holding space for the world beg Sept 21 and cont
thing we can do - indeed know how to do - is to create
an active, positive space for silence - and let go..
A resource - for those who would like a simple meditation for peace, see
www.friendsoftheheart.com and click on the Meditation for Peace box.
with so much gratitude to you all
others inviting us
to open our internal spaces. AND, as most adult do, we can act our way into
new ways of thinking. Open Space "events" do this. Current events are
telling us how imperative it is that we do both!
all the best
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sy
r.com (see Reading Room and
top link on the site's homepage), then go to Don Beck, The Great Global Divide
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
originally from Petre Petierse
~
Opting in or
Glad you found it useful - as have I. You have certainly made it more
accessible!! As for copyright - let's just treat it as "viral" information,
and see what happens.
I have responded to Michelle Cooper's recent posting, providing input to the
Canadian National Liberal Party policy group, using t
- Original Message -
From: "Meg Salter"
To: "OSLIST"
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Space Invaders? (Inclusion -- Chris Corrigan)
> Good to hear your voice, John (on both your messages)
>
> A few thoughts:
> - re over-inclus
You know the old saying "people get the
government they deserve"?! If globally we are going to devolve the
reponsibility for guarding the givens onto the US alone, we are in for big
trouble.
thinking of you all, and ready to hold space tomorrow
am!...
Meg
son's intent - not the time to "go fishing"!
Many thanks to all who have participated (speaking, lurking, reading, deleting)
in this open space.
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
There is so much more going on here
ast! Seems like a LOT is moving fast these days. Stakes are high -
opportunities for shifts are wide open!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
worldview/ place of spirit
from which we are used to responding will no longer serve. It is too small. And
yet to move forward, we need to honour both the wisdom and the limitations of
that perspective. And to do that with force but without anger or violence - no
small challenge!
Thanks
Meg Salter
zation, as a primary intent of Open
Space is to open up possibilities, diversity, difference. Self-organizing, yes.
Open, no.
Thanks for bringing it forward.
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From:
anity (and the planet!)
Not just your own tribe or in-group.
And when we can see more clearly the horrible things that we do (and we will
probably continue to make errors - such being the nature of being human),
then we can more skillfully help others to achieve peace and justice for
themselves.
Meg S
do with the computer
newroom, all you have to do is be fully present and absolutely invisible!!
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
From: Ros Crompton
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Sunday,
t;get real". And some may be beginning to learn when to plan and
and manage, and when to let go and open up to self-organization.
........food for thought.
Meg Salter
MegaSpace Consulting
416/486-6660
meg.sal...@sympatico.ca
www.megaspaceconsulting.com
- Original Message -
Fro
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