Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Jaded? i'm more of that kid who finishes his meal and thinks "damn it.. i'm still hungry... might go ask for some more.." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lEDDsBKSxU Stephen you're just one of those kids at the table that's going "he should be grateful for this dang gruel... gruel be fine food da

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

It’s pretty amazing that 32,000 people will transfer from Nokia to Microsoft... Could be a great cross-pollination of ideas, marketing skills, etc. Wonder whether there will just be Microsoft Phone or whether they’ll keep (or be allowed to keep) the Lumia brand? Jason Roberts Journeyman Soft

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Yes, this is awesome news for both Nokia and Microsoft ! On 03/09/2013 6:26 PM, wrote: > It’s pretty amazing that 32,000 people will transfer from Nokia to > Microsoft... Could be a great cross-pollination of ideas, marketing skills, > etc. > > Wonder whether there will just be Microsoft Phone or

RE: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Yes, I think it has the potential to be a good deal for all concerned (though some Finnish IT journalists have a contrary view, and appear a little bitter and twisted – eg, this one

Hidden/Missing button

Anyone suggest a easy way to find a control on my winform and move it. I have button that has gone missing...ie has location -9000,-7000 I have many controls on the form and was hoping there was a easy way to find it/highlight, maybe a extension? Anthony Salerno Melbourne StuffUps

RE: Hidden/Missing button

>From the form's code view you can Find all references and find in the >.designer.cs / .designer.vb where the position is being initialised. Just >change it there, no extension needed. Or from the form's Designer view you should be able to select the control using the combobox at the top of the

[OT] NBN revisited

Hi all, Now, I should start this by pointing out that it is looking like the Coalition is going to win this election, so this little excerpt is unlikely to change anything, but it’s always good to be informed. This is an excerpt from Peter Cochrane, ex-head of British Telecom, who essential

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:23 PM, wrote: > It’s pretty amazing that 32,000 people will transfer from Nokia to > Microsoft... Could be a great cross-pollination of ideas, marketing skills, > etc. > > Wonder whether there will just be Microsoft Phone or whether they’ll keep > (or be allowed to keep)

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

? Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty selling this we will probably never know. Probably something to do with the public face of the plan being a patronising power-tripping imbecile with no significant IT or Telco industry experience or credibility and even less res

RE: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Enterprise telco infrastructure, R&D and a substantial patent portfolio. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:45 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft On Tu

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

The other part is the "not invented here" syndrome from the coalition. And their owing a favour to murdoch, bigtime. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Nathan Chere wrote: > **Ø **Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty > selling this we will probably never know. > >

RE: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Didn’t they originally make seal skin boots or such .. maybe it’s a return to core business (with a lot of cash to boot) .. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE:

RE: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

> don't twit me about phones vs smartphones, noone buys dumbphones anymore. Smart phones only overtook dumb phones for the first time this year and Nokia was still one of the largest manufacturer of them. They however, are seeing a rapid decline. However, they also come over to Microsoft. This

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Nokia also makes a lot of the network cell sites and (telephone) exchange stuff On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM, David Kean wrote: > > don't twit me about phones vs smartphones, noone buys dumbphones > anymore. > > ** ** > > Smart phones only overtook dumb phones for the first time this yea

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

I have FTTH :) *yeah sucks to be me huh* and the reality is i barely even scratch the surface of its actual usage levels, given the majority of the internet can't even upload fast enough unless i'm dealing in BitTorrent style behaviour (node to node). Websites usually cap at around 500k-1mb anyway

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

The problem with cost-benefit analysis’ for something like this type of project, is that there will be a huge “unknowns” number, the size of which people will just argue about. It’s just “kicking the can” down the road. Look at the copper network – when that was being rolled out the concept of

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Some Fed govt departments give "dumb company phones".. On Sep 4, 2013 10:45 AM, "mike smith" wrote: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:23 PM, wrote: > >> It’s pretty amazing that 32,000 people will transfer from Nokia to >> Microsoft... Could be a great cross-pollination of ideas, marketing skills, >> e

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Tony Wright wrote: > Now to my position – lest you think me some impractical academic. In my BT > life I was employed as: > > ** > > 1) A digger of trenches > > 2) An installer of poles, cables, telephones PBXs, exchanges > > 3) A maintainer of PBXs, switc

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:31 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited They only way to deliver something of this size is to be transport agnostic, stage the delivery and don'

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

Wow, you focussed on a less relevant part of the document like a pro! I guess we’ll have to skip the part where the Liberals are spending just as much on the NBN as Labor but getting a significantly inferior system that lacks value for money. And they call themselves economic managers? 19) Th

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Yet he was the CTO for BT. He’s probably got a reasonable level of > experience in how to actually deliver “something of this size” > > Anyone else sceptical of “the only way to do > is…” claims that come from back-seat drivers? > Err I thi

[OT] FixWPF err.. FixUXPlat?

Last night at TechEd i was asked twice about the future of .NET etc usual rants.. but in both cases I was also asked "How would you fix all of this" style questions. It got me thinking and I dunno, here's my actual response to that question but I'd also be curious to see how you all would navigate

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”? Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known. FWIW I think that this type of proposed infrastructure is a good idea, but I’m not wedded to this specific implementation (I just think that it’s better than the proposed alternative) Since you’re been involve

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”? > > ** ** > > Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known. > I have an antipathy for piling up money and setting it on fire. [ ... ] > > > Since you’re been involved in enough IT projects

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

I just find it surprising that instead of focussing on the issues, there is an attack an exceptionally credible personality who is an adviser to the UK parliament! Calling Peter Cochrane OBE a hack just because of your political beliefs is quite an insult. Here is his CV: http://www.cochran

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:13 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: Um, since when am I

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer > wrote: > > ** > > Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”? > > > > Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known. > > ** ** > > I have an antipathy for piling up money and setti

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:54 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known. I have an antipathy for piling up money and setting it o

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

To be fair a lot of teams/companies do often run their projects from the "solution" first approach Awkward moment. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

I still haven’t heard anything from you that convinces me David. The NBN is likely to bring in A$105 billion dollars to A$237 billion dollars. That’s a lot of economic activity. A lot of business. A lot of jobs. Even if it breaks even we will be ahead. I think you most definitely fit into

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

Sure. But how do those turn out (compared to starting from requirements) - especially the really complex ones? Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 1:09 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT]

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:54 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited > > Your antipathy to th

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

Here’s a good read from today : http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/turnbulls-fragmented-nbn-dooms-australia-to-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-past-20130904-2t4cr.html Hopefully that will help some folks see past the one tree and start looking at the forest.

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ken Schaefer mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [m

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Tony Wright wrote: > I still haven’t heard anything from you that convinces me David. > I doubt there is anything I can say that would convince you. > > > The NBN is likely to bring in A$105 billion dollars to A$237 billion > dollars. That’s a lot of econom

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Apart from the use of "impacted", a nice article. For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum some years back. I knew a number of people who didn't like the idea of a politician appointed president and thought voting "No" meant "the people" would vote for the presid

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

The minimum return expected on the NBN would be A$105 billion dollars and the maximum would be A$237 billion dollars. I don’t see anything wrong with giving a range. The point is that even if the cost of the NBN blows out, we still make money and we still get all the economic activity, jobs, mon

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, David Richards wrote: > Apart from the use of "impacted", a nice article. > > At least it wasn't impactful. > For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum > some years back. I knew a number of people who didn't like the idea of a >

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

Like most people, I'd love to have FTTH. However, I have zero confidence in the current government's ability to deliver it in a reasonable timeframe. Wishing for it won't make it happen. Given a choice between paying $3K-$5k to connect our house to a local node in 2016, and a dream of a ser

Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft

Let's join the seal skin club! (poor taste, or so I've heard) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Paul Evrat wrote: > Didn’t they originally make seal skin boots or such .. maybe it’s a return > to core business (with a lot of cash to boot) .. > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.c

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Looking at the rollout, it's scheduled to be available for me by end of year. Which is somewhat unfair, being I've already got vdsl2. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom wrote: > Like most people, I’d love to have FTTH. > > ** ** > > However, I have zero confidence in the cu

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

I wouldn't count on that running that smoothly. It will take time to get that many "fridges" installed everywhere: thinking it can all be done in three years sounds incredibly hopeful to me. But even once that is done, then the fibre has to be physically installed down the road/streets. If that is

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

But what's the alternative Bill? Wait for the NBN? We're not even on the "we'll think about starting within 3 years" map. And all they keep doing with the current targets is downgrading them. So what chance do we have of seeing it in anything like a reasonable timeframe? I'm in an area whe

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

My experience of long, complex deployments is that the first bit's always pretty hard. You're always running into new challenges and issues. However, once you get enough "template" rollout processes, then things start to pick up - it becomes cookie-cutter. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozd

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Isn't that really the point of the NBN? To try to make internet access more available? I have no problem with people in the middle of nowhere getting it first because they have few options. I might complain about being stuck with optus but I still get 20Mb/s down and I think 0.25 up. I know peo

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

I was living in Riverstone for a while when it was scheduled to be one of the first suburbs in NSW to see the practical benefits of the NBN roll-out after the local ALP puppet Michelle Rowland used the NBN as a key differentiator in her campaign. That was 2007. Luckily my TPG ASDL2 connection

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

And that’s the real issue. If it’s all about just providing some level of service to people that have no real options today, they we need to just say that, accept that it’s a nation-building public service for the bush and be prepared to wear really major costs in providing it. But I keep se

RE: NBN runs past my home - will Abbott charge me $4000 to connect it?

mike smith But you are in the current FTTH rollout area, from what you say. Budde sounds like he's spreading some FUD to make some quick connections... His - Paul Budde’s - expression may be clumsy (he’s Dutch) but I don’t think it’s at all ambiguous, nor is it FUD, and he’s not involved wit

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

true but none the less they start out that way. I also think both sides have valid points to this argument about which is better or the right approach. The point i'd make is do you think this entire thing is going to last 1-2 more elections? as does anyone *ACTUALLY* think the NBN roll out will hap

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Same.. I have NBNCo teams outside my house today putting shit on the ground only i'm confused as I have Fibre Optic to my house via OptiComm ..so i'm a little puzzled as to what they are *installing* moreover why i'm higher on the priority list :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

What I don’t understand is that if you’re in a built up area, why they don’t just install Fibre to the Home. Copper might do for the short term, but it is expensive to maintain and has all sorts of issues like crosstalk/interference, susceptibility to water etc. Fibre does not have those iss

Re: [OT] NBN revisited

An interesting point. Does that mean they are just trying to target advertising to get the votes or is that really the focus? *sigh* Of course, Murdoch has already decided if we're getting the NBN. This saturday is just a formality for the masses ;) David "If we can hit that bullseye, the res

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

This guy..all I rememeber..’if you do know here..blah blah..if you door knock here..blah….’ Anthony Melbourne StuffUps…learn from others, share with others! http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/ ---

RE: [OT] NBN revisited

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU this is pretty funny and disturbing video! This guy is pretty useless..this politick has no idea about anything…its just a job he is going for…how do these people get into such roles… Anthony Melb