RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-09 Thread Ian Thomas
homas Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert Langer (decades ago, in Victoria), but he was gaoled for a short time for infringing the electoral a

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-09 Thread .net noobie
--- > > Ian Thomas > Victoria Park, Western Australia > -- > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas > *Sent:* Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM > > *To:* &#x

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-09 Thread Ken Schaefer
order. Let's take future discussion offlist. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter &quo

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-09 Thread Tony Wright
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter "Liberals actually have 2 whole policies now I believe."

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-09 Thread .net noobie
ill having > problems with the unions. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *.net noobie > *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:24 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once >

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-10 Thread Trevor Andrew
well, while still having problems with the unions. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter &quo

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-10 Thread Ken Schaefer
ailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 5:08 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Greg I'm not sure if you remember Albert

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-10 Thread .net noobie
ry (and > that includes voters). That’s what democracy is all about… > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *.net noobie > *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:04 PM > > *To:

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-10 Thread .net noobie
balance budgets, leading to even less demand) that lead into the >> Great Depression – it was self-reinforcing economic suicide. >> >> >> >> As for spending money for voters – I’m not sure what you think the >> government is there for. It’s there to meet the needs of the

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-11 Thread mike smith
On 10 July 2010 15:40, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Hi, > > > > As mentioned – debt itself isn’t the problem. It’s what you do with the > money that determines whether you are making sounds decisions or not. Many > individuals and corporations (and governments) make rational decisions to > borrow money a

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-11 Thread Greg Low (greglow.com)
Or as hand-outs to the general population who use it to buy goods from China... -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 2:24 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-11 Thread David Connors
On 12 July 2010 15:43, Greg Low (greglow.com) wrote: > Or as hand-outs to the general population who use it to buy goods from > China... > Or tip down the gullets of poker machines. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268

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2010-07-11 Thread tonywr
Actually, a friend of mine's wife is an anti-Gambling campaigner who produced a report with Tim Costello. According to the report, for every $1 million spent to jobs created in various industries, the Food industry produced 20 jobs, the Gift industry produced 10 jobs, but the Gambling industry

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-11 Thread Greg Low (greglow.com)
] Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 3:45 PM To: g...@greglow.com; ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter On 12 July 2010 15:43, Greg Low (greglow.com) wrote: Or as hand-outs to the general population who use it to buy goods from China... Or tip

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Low (greglow.com) Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 1:43 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Or as hand-outs to the general population who use it to buy goods from China.

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2010-07-12 Thread Maddin, Peter
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Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread David Connors
On 12 July 2010 17:28, Ken Schaefer wrote: > But saying "don't buy from the Chinese" is just self-defeating. Then the > Chinese shouldn't buy our coal. Or Americans shouldn't buy Dr Low's > consulting services etc. No one will buy anything from anyone overseas. And > why limit it to countries: pe

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2010-07-12 Thread .net noobie
"Or building an NBN" I was under the impression that we were building the 40+ billion NBN to have "TWO" networks to increase/create competition anyway now we have the government (Conroy) stick the boots into Telstra, make them break up, and if they don't do it the way Conroy want's they will just

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2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Liedig
Pricing is out of control. I'm living in the UK at the moment and I pay £7.50 ($13) for 8 meg download, no cap. Prior to leaving I was paying $49 for half that speed and 50GB cap. Unbelievable that Aussies still have to pay so much more than the rest of the world. On 12 July 2010 12:41, .net noo

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2010-07-12 Thread David Connors
On 12 July 2010 21:41, .net noobie wrote: > In Tasmania the network prices are out, you can buy a 25 MB/Sec connection > for $99 a month or you can have ADSL2+ 24 MB/sec for maybe $29 a month or > $50 for more bandwidth than most heavy use families will chew in a month > Precisely. > But the t

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread Greg Low (greglow.com)
com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 5:59 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter On 12 July 2010 17:28, Ken Schaefer wrote: But saying "don't buy from the Chinese&

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread Greg Low (greglow.com)
Behalf Of Stephen Liedig Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 10:02 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Pricing is out of control. I'm living in the UK at the moment and I pay £7.50 ($13) for 8 meg download, no cap. Prior to leaving

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread David Connors
On 13 July 2010 10:12, Greg Low (greglow.com) wrote: > Many of my European friends think it’s hilarious that we pay for traffic at > all. > > It’s this sort of thing though that’s built into the cost structures of all > our businesses and makes them less competitive in the global market. > > Mind

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
never be true "unlimited" plans in Aus From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Liedig Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 8:02 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Pricing

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2010-07-12 Thread David Connors
On 13 July 2010 00:49, Ken Schaefer wrote: > a) Australia is much larger than the UK, and with much lower > population density. So the sunk cost per person is much higher here > Sorry, but that has sfa to do with metering. It might account for higher installation costs or monthly costs asso

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread mike smith
On 12 July 2010 21:41, .net noobie wrote: > "Or building an NBN" > > I was under the impression that we were building the 40+ billion NBN to have > "TWO" networks to increase/create competition Er, since when would that increase competition? Do we have two sets of roads, two sets of electricity

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread mike smith
.@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] > On Behalf Of Stephen Liedig > Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 8:02 PM > > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet > Filter > > > > Pricing is out of control. I'm living

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread .net noobie
*Er, since when would that increase competition? Do we have two sets of roads, two sets of electricity *distribution* systems?* becuase you have to places to buy from, it's call competition, plus if you ever work in a place like a mine for example, you notice they have 2 of everything, so when on

RE: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 12:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter Er, since when would that increase competition? Do we have

Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once againdelaysInternet Filter

2010-07-12 Thread .net noobie
2 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *.net noobie > *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 July 2010 12:31 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Friday - Conway (or.. Labor govt) once > aga