Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-16 Thread Andrea Quanchi
I can't believe that woman go along with this. It just shows how intimidated they are or socialised because if I new that was going to be expected I wouldn't go. Andrea Quanchi On Sunday, September 15, 2002, at 08:40 PM, Smith, Anne wrote: Dear all, I know of a few obstetricians who routinely do

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-12 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
for all the good it would do, they may as well stick it up...oh, forgive me! aviva - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds I wonder what the hooha would be like if they

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-11 Thread Mary Murphy
Unfortunately, women are sent straight to the Obs by their G.P as soon as they are aware they are pregnant.  Its like an assembly line.  MM Mary this ob can't be very booked out if he can see women as early as 12 weeks! WHat a worry  

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-11 Thread Lynne Staff
02 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds Once again thanks for the info re Vag Ultrasounds.  I have a gut feeling that this is a dangerous procedure for the foetus as it gets so close to it and is not even " filtered" throught the abdominal fat an

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-11 Thread Lynne Staff
Mary this ob can't be very booked out if he can see women as early as 12 weeks! WHat a worry - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds The

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-11 Thread Lynne Staff
was!!! - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds I suppose it depends on why he is doing an US in the first place? I've never understood the

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-09 Thread Ann green
Dear List, Having had the situation of needing a vaginal U/S for gyno. problems I found Robyn Noble's description of this being like "medical rape" ringing in my ears!Anyone who does not think that this is an accurate term has not had the experience.Fortunately the results rule out fibroids, tumou

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-09 Thread Monica Hook
09/09/2002 at 0732 Debby wrote:   -snip- However I personally would question how many women actually have terminations at this stage even if they are told bubs condition is fatal. -snip-   Hi Debby, Where I work there is a small

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-08 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
September 08, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds Hi Marilyn and everyone, Ref the dating.  I checked with my other half who is a sonographer and he agreed that US up to 20wks is accurate for dating.  He indicated that US at 20wks was usually

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-08 Thread Debby M
Hi Marilyn and everyone, Ref the dating.  I checked with my other half who is a sonographer and he agreed that US up to 20wks is accurate for dating.  He indicated that US at 20wks was usually +/- 3 days, earlier than this it was +/- 5-7days and later than this could vary considerably - especially

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds and dating

2002-09-08 Thread Meaghan Moon
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-08 Thread P & A Koziol
dwifery EducatorMelbourne - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds Once again thanks for the info re Vag Ultrasounds.  I have a gut feeling that this is

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-08 Thread Mary Murphy
Once again thanks for the info re Vag Ultrasounds.  I have a gut feeling that this is a dangerous procedure for the foetus as it gets so close to it and is not even " filtered" throught the abdominal fat and muscle. It is also a gross invasion of a woman's body.  I wonder if the operator "get

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-08 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds Hmmm - ultrasounds to confirm womens dates this early on - I thought that the 20wk ultrasound was supposed to do this.  Surely 20wks notice is sufficient of an impending birth if

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Debby M
Hmmm - ultrasounds to confirm womens dates this early on - I thought that the 20wk ultrasound was supposed to do this.  Surely 20wks notice is sufficient of an impending birth if the OB wants an accurate date?  And this way the woman would only "have to have" one ultrasound in her pregnancy - mayb

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Debby M
Hmmm - ultrasounds to confirm womens dates this early on - I thought that the 20wk ultrasound was supposed to do this.  Surely 20wks notice is sufficient of an impending birth if the OB wants an accurate date?  And this way the woman would only "have to have" one ultrasound in her pregnancy - m

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds With my last child the doctor whom I was seeing to get into the bc for a vbac (yeah right!) asked me when my LNMP was and I was able to tell him the date we conceived.  He questioned that and said "I think you are a couple of weeks out

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds They are routine where I work too... the obs use them to get more accurate dating.  Eventhough most women know pretty much exactly the date of their LNMP... he still does it, to make sure. Ack. Jo Hi Jo and all Another furphy I suggest, as a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread JoFromOz
, September 07, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds There is an obstetrician in Perth who routinely performs vaginal ultrasound in his rooms before 12 weeks gest.  Is this an accepted practice and what would the reasons be for such a practice? MM 

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Ken Ward
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 10:47 AMTo: listSubject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds There is an obstetrician in Perth who routinely performs vaginal ultrasound in his rooms before 12 weeks gest.  Is this an accepted pra

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Debby M
This is probably a bit of an agressive attitude - but if there is no clinical justification for his practice, such as those suggested by the other ladies (IVF confirmations, suspected ectopic, etc) then isn't this tantamount to a form of sexual abuse - disguised but surely any procedure that is t

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Judy Chapman
. Judy From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:32:04 +0800 "Doing the US vaginally rather than abdominally just means you don't need

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Sally Westbury
“Doing the US vaginally rather than abdominally just means you don't need to bother with a full bladder I expect.”   I think we need to be careful about thinking this is a ‘just’ situation. Having something place in my vagina is an incredibly intimate and private act. There is nothing jus

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-07 Thread Mary Murphy
rilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds The most common reason I have found for early u/s is infertility. I had a couple of clients in the Seattle who were undergoing fertility treatment and the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-06 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds There is an obstetrician in Perth who routinely performs vaginal ultrasound in his rooms before 12 weeks gest.  Is this an accepted practice

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-06 Thread jireland
  - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds There is an obstetrician in Perth who routinely performs vaginal ultrasound in his rooms before 12 weeks gest.  Is this an accepted

[ozmidwifery] Vaginal ultrasounds

2002-09-06 Thread Mary Murphy
There is an obstetrician in Perth who routinely performs vaginal ultrasound in his rooms before 12 weeks gest.  Is this an accepted practice and what would the reasons be for such a practice? MM