Re: MIME, DEMIME, Paal, Pel, Pal, and digests

2001-09-05 Thread Doug Brewer
I'd say that's likely. My apologies to Paal, of course, but I think a cleaner list is worth it. I =know= the digest readers will agree. Doug if it makes anyone feel better to mangle my name, please feel free At 10:58 PM -04009/5/01, Doug Franklin wrote, or at least typed: > >I hate to say it

Re: MIME, DEMIME, Paal, Pel, Pal, and digests

2001-09-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:43:46 -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: > Now that MIME has been dealt a death blow, [...] I hate to say it, but I there's a reasonable chance that DEMIME is the cause of the wrenched up high ASCII characters, like the "a with circle over it" in Paal's name. :-| TTYL, DougF - This

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Robert Harris
William Robb wrote: > > ...advantage lies with the incumbent technology, as it has a long > and well proven track record of reliablilty. I guess that is true, that must be why the good old reliable horse and buggy still dominates transportation, and the new-fangled and imperfect automobile has n

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Robert Harris
"Skofteland, Christian" wrote: > > What's not interesting about naked college girls? ;^) They are so young, so lacking in experience. They become much more interesting a few year later -- naked or clothed. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://ww

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Brian Campbell (PM)
> > How many of you who are railing against digital have actually TRIED > digital? > > I mean recently, and in a way that gives it a fair chance? I did some product shots for the web about three months ago using my boss's Sony Mavica (the one with the 10x zoom lens). I covered up the built-in f

RE: Slides vs digital / Archiving?

2001-09-05 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters
Jostein wrote: "There's no digital medium (or print) with a lifetime expectancy longer than a negative." Well I, for one, can lay my hands on CDs I purchased more than ten years ago in a few seconds whereas, I couldn't find my negatives from that timeframe in a week. The CDs work no problem but

MIME, DEMIME, Paal, Pel, Pal, and digests

2001-09-05 Thread Doug Brewer
Since the digest was created, majordomo, because of the server set-up, has been reluctant to include the subject lines in the digests. No amount of wheedling, threatening or cursing on my part had any effect. It simply refused. I cast about for a cause, consulted the gurus, studied chicken entr

Re: Texas PUG gathering

2001-09-05 Thread Nicholas Wright
Great! I'll be looking for you! I'll be there too, prolly covering the event for the McKinney Courier. It'll be great to meet you. I'll be the guy with the pz1p various lenses small blue Besler bag. My wife will prolly be close by with a K1000. :) Erm, "... and lots of donations..." I have no ide

Re: cheapest 120 film/slide processing

2001-09-05 Thread Scott Astin
--- Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any recommendations for really low price mail order > processing? > - You may want to look into Dale Laboratories. They are a mail order CO. out of Florida and do wonderful 35mm and medium format work. Ill see if I can find a phone number for you. C

Re: Grainless at 3200 was: Re: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Harry Baughman
some portraits shot with konica 3200 are beautiful. Received: from smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by storefull-165.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 960F01CA; Tue, 4 Sep

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Bruce Dayton wrote: > It has all the basic problems of a P&S (Slow AF, delay on shutter > firing, single lens) Just as a FYI, in case you didn't know, you can get screw-on adapters that expand the capabilities of the lens. Nikon makes a fisheye, wide-angle, and two telephoto

67 equipment, request for enablement... (was Re: old message)

2001-09-05 Thread photomail
> Right on! Welcome to the club! > > What lens did you get with it? Picked up the 105 F2.4 (standard kit material). It's nice & sharp, the teddy bear test slides looked great, as did the theatre promos I shot with it a week or so ago. Also got with it a 67mm Hood (the square plastic $100.00 ma

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have to second that. For my anniversary last December, my wife got me a Nikon Coolpix 990. When I opened it I looked at her and said "Do you know what this is?" In my mind I was thinking, "Why did you get me one of these? I have no interest in it." After playing around for a bit, I discovere

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Len Paris
First, let me state that I'm not a railer. I've owned a few digital cameras. Let me list them by their max resolution of the pictures produced. That way I don't have to get into brand names. 1. 640 x 480 2. 1024 x 768 3. 2048 x 1536 4. 2240 x 1680 - this last one will put out TIFF

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-05 Thread Ken Archer
Amen!!! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 18:56, you wrote: > I'm with Mike on this, and I get the messages in real time. It's > annoying and perhaps poor netiquette to repost an entire message, > sometimes with headers, footers, and other messages contained > therein, when replying to the list. A

RE: Digest users rejoice!

2001-09-05 Thread Len Paris
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > William Robb > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Digest users rejoice! > Hell no, I can barely figure out how to put a gallery together > every month.

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Mike Johnston
...And now I have a slightly different tack to take than in my last message. How many of you who are railing against digital have actually TRIED digital? I mean recently, and in a way that gives it a fair chance? One of the common themes I encounter ceaselessly on the digicam forums is a great s

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
The opposite can be true also. If you trim too much, then it is hard to follow the thread. :) Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Have a heart! > Do

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very interesting observations, Mike. I just hope that the films that survive are not just the common consumer ones. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re:

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
Do you mean like this??? (Microsoft default) - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Have a heart! Or like this?? (Just plain goofy) >So, please trim your > messages and, wherever possible, put your replies above the quoted > material. Thank you ... But definitely no

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 0 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Anand DHUPKAR wrote: > > i have a question here ... might sound strange, however, what is 'enablihg' > ??? Enabling, literally, is giving someone what they need in order to do something. If I give you the keys, you're able to unlock the door. On this list, however, 'enablement' means talking s

Re: Texas PUG gathering

2001-09-05 Thread John Mustarde
On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:38:57 -0500, you wrote: >There is the Raptor Festival held by Heard Natural Science Museum in >McKinney, north of Plano, on Sept 15. Lots of great birds that are used to >humans so that you can get good and close, and lots of donations. Big event >so it's not something tha

Re: Have a heart!

2001-09-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm with Mike on this, and I get the messages in real time. It's annoying and perhaps poor netiquette to repost an entire message, sometimes with headers, footers, and other messages contained therein, when replying to the list. Another annoyance is when the reply is posted ~below~ all that, so

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Mike Johnston
> Sadly, the numbers are against us. The fact that it is slowly starting to > happen is an indicator. Maybe, maybe not, because you can't extrapolate saturation. Mark Twain wrote a funny essay in which he calculated the rate at which the Mississippi river was getting shorter, as the result of e

Have a heart!

2001-09-05 Thread Mike Johnston
Folks, please...trim the trailers and the second- and third-generation original messages off your replies. Lots of you don't take the Digest, but for those of us who do, the endless trailers on short messages make it considerably harder to read the PDML...or, if not exactly "harder," then at least

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 0 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
i have a question here ... might sound strange, however, what is 'enablihg' ??? >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 0 0 DS for me, yet >Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:21:43 -0400 > > >> You're evil! > > > >No, I'm

Re: Digest users rejoice!

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Digest users rejoice! > As a digest user I am grateful for the individual responsible for finally > enabling the system whereby the list of subject lines of all the posts on > each digest precede the actual posts themselves. William, be this yo

Scary

2001-09-05 Thread Juan J. Buhler
Last night I was batch scanning some rolls (this is how I do proofs) and for a few frames didn't realize that the selection in Silverfast was limited to a thin vertical part of the image, somewhere around the center. The scary part is that the resulting images, random crops of a few consecutive f

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The really ironic part of this scenario is that computers >themselves are among the worst polluters now. They are a >manufactured object, which eats up natural resources and energy >resources to produce, then they eat up more energy resources in >use, an

Hallelujah!

2001-09-05 Thread John Mason
An index of subjects with every digest! Thank you, listowner. --John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] alt email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - This message is from the

Re: old message

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
"Brian Campbell (PM)" wrote: > Oh yeah, and I have completely given up the idea of buying the > used and in good condition K1000se with the purchase of my > brand new off the shelf 67II. Right on! Welcome to the club! What lens did you get with it? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Dis

Re: Spotmatic II battery replacement

2001-09-05 Thread Frank Theriault
Hi, John, SP II's take the same battery as the SP, SP500 and SP1000, that is a PX400, or equivalent. Mercury cell would be best, 'cause they literally last years (like 5 or 10), but they've been illegal to sell in the US for a long time, so good luck finding one. They do make alkaline ones, but

Re: OT: Vivitar 70-210/3.5 series 1 opinions wanted

2001-09-05 Thread JeffW.
A good lens and very good value if you can get it for under $100. I have it in both the M42 and K-mounts. A bit on the larger/heavier side but it balances well with a K body or and older Ricoh. I like the 67mm (1st) version and the 70-210 2.8~4 (3rd) best. The 62mm 3.5 I tried didn't impress me as

MZ-S pictures

2001-09-05 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
Last week I shot some rolls of Velvia film with my MZ-S, FA 24-90 zoom lens, SMC Pentax-A 15mm, and SMC Pentax-F* 300mm lenses. A small selection of pictures is published in Gallery section of AOHC website: http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/galle.htm (English) or http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/galli.ht

RE: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Cotty
>My point was that the conversion task, and even the task of >sitting down before one of them silly PC-boxes just to get an >image on a piece of paper, that's not convenient technology in >_most_ people's eyes. Jostein, I couldn't agree more! That's why I make it a lot easier on myself and si

Re: CZJ 80/1,8 with K mount?

2001-09-05 Thread canislupus
I second that, the CZJ 80/1.8 is superb lens. It's similar design (maybe even same?) to Pentax K 85/1.8 (I have to dig out my 80/1.8 CZJ diagram), but in that case, the CZJ is original while Pentax is "copy". Anyway, it's a gaussian design, aka Planar or Biometar, unlike Pentax 85/1.9 or Jupiter 9

Digest users rejoice!

2001-09-05 Thread Cotty
As a digest user I am grateful for the individual responsible for finally enabling the system whereby the list of subject lines of all the posts on each digest precede the actual posts themselves. William, be this you? Thanks! Cotty ___ Pers

K1000 battery

2001-09-05 Thread Brian
Hey Group, An actress-friend of mine brought her camera to the show I'm doing last night, and wanted me to take some pictures for her. Her camera is a decent-condition K1000se with a 50mm F2.0 lens on it. 2 questions, First what kind of battery does it take, and 2nd, what should I offer he

Re: OT: Vivitar 70-210/3.5 series 1 opinions wanted

2001-09-05 Thread Treena Harp
I've never used the Vivitar, but I have the Tokina 80-200/2.8 MF. I got it for $195 at a local camera store in like-new condition complete with case. I use it some, but it's become the favorite lens of my husband, who likes to shoot sports. We both like it a lot. - Original Message - From

Re: Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
Oakville is a bit out of the way.I deal with the Newmarket Steeles Ave stores mostly,but find i'm using the Downtown store to try and find a 8-200 f2.8 for the D1(s) Still might upgrade the SF-1 to a mz-5n or pz-1p and proper flash Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds

Re[2]: Please, stop all other topics, we must address the "Pal" issue.

2001-09-05 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, It could happen. One of the funniest cartoons I ever saw was of a man who'd just come home from work. He was standing in the hallway of his house, his shoulders were slumped, his briefcase hanging heavy in his hand, a miserable look on his face. He was talking to his wife, saying "I've been

RE: Digital Revolution

2001-09-05 Thread admin
> film volumes are going to be (and certainly are >now being) reduced. The midrange camera market (SLRs for hobbyists like >us) are taking the big hit. As I reported earlier this year, a local >large-volume retailer of camera equipment sold more digitals in the >$500-$1000 range than ALL BRAND

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 0 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread admin
>> The evil part about this is that Mark already has a 645 > >A 645 has its uses, and I'd take a 645n over most 35s in an instant, but >there's no arguing that 67 is bigger than 645. My feelings exactly. Which is why I got the 645. I can easily go hiking with the 645, 45/2.8, 75/2.8, 200/4.0

Sv: PENTAX FA* 28-70 F2.8

2001-09-05 Thread arkibladt
Hi I remember old archives saying someone had motor problems when tured upwards! Otherwise check Photodo tests. It's a little better than the Tokina AF ATX pro 2.6-2.8/28-70mm and the very good Pentax f4/28-70mm (discontinued). KEH has one for 1000$. BTW: It's an excellent zoom lens! Jens, Denma

RE: Slides vs. digital (sorry,=2 0long - and probably OT)

2001-09-05 Thread admin
Robert Wetmore wrote: Very interesting and thoughtful views. >I'll not buy a digital camera any time soon - I have no interest in simply >the outward appearances of images. I think the notion that film/chemical images are more than just "outward appearances" of images in a way that digital im

Stolen equipment

2001-09-05 Thread herbet brasileiro
Dear friends, It took me more than a year to get all the pieces of my equipment together. I was happy experimenting with and learning. Then yesterday, during day time, somebody got into my apartment and among other things stole all it was worth. Fortunately I have insurance, although it won't be e

Digital Revolution

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Given my earlier statements, though, film will not disappear because of the marketplace. There'll always be enough hobbyists and craftsmen to keep the art/craft alive. It would only be gov't regulation that would eliminate the chemical usage. But with either scenario, film volumes are going t

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
tom wrote: > The evil part about this is that Mark already has a 645 A 645 has its uses, and I'd take a 645n over most 35s in an instant, but there's no arguing that 67 is bigger than 645. Case closed. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http:

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=3 D20 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread admin
>> >> You're evil! >> > >> >No, I'm enabling you. ;) >> >> Like there's a difference??? > >The difference is that enablement is for you own good. I gain nothing >by your purchase of a 67, but you, on the other hand, have creative >doorways thrown open wide in front of you! How can you resist?

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread tom
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > Brendan wrote: > > > > I agree Aaron is evil :). > > C'mon now, I only convinced you to buy a lens! I'm trying to get Mark > to buy a whole medium format camera system. ;) The evil part about this is that Mark already has a 645 tv - This message is from the Penta

Re: PENTAX FA* 28-70 F2.8

2001-09-05 Thread tom
This lens has had quite a bit of discussion in the past. You may want to check the arhives first, then come back if you have more questions. A good way to check prices is to check the following sites: www.ebay.com www.keh.com Good luck. tv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > My local photo

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Lewis, Gerald
Why is it that it has to be something you/someone approve of to be interesting to the photographer, or to the other members of the club. There are others on this NG that also seem to think that they are the ultimate judge of what is a good/bad photo/technique/crop/subjectetc... Just smacks o

Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
dave o'brien wrote: > The 6x7 comes with a 105/f2.4 as standard and that seems to be about a > 50mm equiv. It's also just about the fastest MF lens available. The 90mm has a slightly closer minimum focus distance, from what I recall when I was deciding which to buy with my 67. Our Pentax rep (

Re: LX v MX/ME-S (was Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me,yet)

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > The interchangeable viewfinders > are a wonderful and valuable feature that neither the MX nor the ME-S > has. The interchangeable focusing screens on the LX are another great > feature, which the MX has but with much more limited options, and the > ME-S doesn't offer at

RE: Slides vs. digital (sorry, long - and probably OT)

2001-09-05 Thread Robert Wetmore
There is one other aspect which may, for just a few folks, impede the total triumph of digital over slide film - even after the resolution, cost, and all other functional limitations are removed (which will of course happen very soon indeed): namely, the questionable authenticity of a digital i

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=20 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> You're evil! > > > >No, I'm enabling you. ;) > > Like there's a difference??? The difference is that enablement is for you own good. I gain nothing by your purchase of a 67, but you, on the other hand, have creative doorways thrown open wide in front of you! Ho

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Joe Urmos
>>I don't need an MZ-S right now. > >Wow! It's good to see someone driven by practicality over marketing! > Now, here's a Classic oxymoron if I ever saw one. Pentax? Marketing? Har de har har! -joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.n

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Paris, Leonard
You know folks, the fact that you can walk into a Wal-Mart (and others), pull the SmartMedia card, or CompactFlash card out of your digital camera and plug it into the appropriate slot of a digital print maker, select your choices for print size, color balance, sharpness, cropping, etc. and get ju

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Brendan wrote: > > I agree Aaron is evil :). C'mon now, I only convinced you to buy a lens! I'm trying to get Mark to buy a whole medium format camera system. ;) Lookout, Mark, the Aaron-enablement voodoo just convinced one of my friends to buy a used 645n on eBay...compared to that, a $900 67

Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions

2001-09-05 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:43:26 -0400 Read it? y >hmmm. Isn't 90mm more of a normal lens on a 6x7? It is about equivalent to a 45mm in >the 35mm world, innit? The 6x7 comes with a 105/f2.4 as standard and that seems to be about a 50mm equiv. It

Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions

2001-09-05 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 1 Sep 2001 15:28:10 +1200 Read it? y > Not a steal, they know what gear is worth :) If it's still there tomorrow I'll ask >them what its worth without the lens. I know its a little pointless having a body >with no lenses but at

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Mike Johnston wrote: > I'm kind of thinking along similar lines. With digital covering snapshots > and family pix, do I really need a 35mm any more? I'm thinking of maybe > going to medium format for black-and-white printmaking and letting digital > cover the rest of my needs. The last time I th

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Skofteland, Christian
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: "Every two or three years the club membership turns over. All they do is a bunch still-life shots of fruit baskets and a few nudes of that college girl. Nothing really intersting." What's not interesting about naked college girls? ;^) Christian

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Skofteland, Christian
William Robb wrote : "What I find really stupid is all the talk about film being replaced by digital." Which was the point I was making in the first place! Granted I did not use the words "stupid" or "moronic" because I'm new to this forum and didn't want to offend anyone. ;^) C

PENTAX FA* 28-70 F2.8

2001-09-05 Thread pg
Hi, My local photo store has a Pentax 28-70 F2.8 in very good condition can anyone provide some feedback about this lens with respect to: 1) Optical Quality (sharpness/bokeh/contrast etc...) 2) Flare control 3) Robustness/reliability (this has power zoom) 4) What would be a fair price to pay fo

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
David J Brooks wrote: > > Did you see any goodys in the used bins?? Nah, I never get to leave my store. I conducted the business by phone, with the Henry's out here in Oakville. Plus, one of their sales guys was in here a bunch over the last two weeks getting some custom printing done (shhh).

RE: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
Absolutely! That was my point. According to Bruce Dayton (elsewhere in this thread) this is already happening. So if the memorycards of today's digital cameras fits tomorrow's digital labs, all will be well...? ...or? Bit sceptical still... Jostein -- Original Message -

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
William Robb wrote: > I still disagree with this. Even if what Mike says about SLR > users abandoning film in droves is true, the SLR user is not who > is driving the film market right now. Compacts have outsold SLRs > by about 10:1 over the past 15 years, and this is the market > that is driving

Pentax FA* 27-70 F2.8

2001-09-05 Thread pg
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Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread admin
>> If photofinishing becomes regulated as you say, I >> could see this being the thing that turns the masses to >> digital. > >If photofinishing becomes regulated as I think it will be, there >will be no choice but to turn to digital. >William Robb I expect this will happen too. The scenario as

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
So, where do we obtain books on creating our own paper emulsions for paper & glass? That seems about the only way the craft will survive the next 2 decades. (and I'm serious!) Here's the future that I dread: Clubs of people in their 50s learning to mix chemicals for paper and plates. They shoo

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ DS for me, yet?

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Mark, Something @ www.mpex.com Pentax 67 ML body, w/105 f2.4,Prism Fdr., 8++ $900 20PXBD-4-900-000 Collin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug

Re: Re: Re: Best Zoom lens

2001-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
Not sure if they are AF or MF.The site just lists the equipment breifly with price and contact info. Thanks William Begin Original Message From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:28:14 -0600 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Best Zoom lens - Ori

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Slides vs. digital . If photofinishing becomes regulated as you say, I > could see this being the thing that turns the masses to digital. If

RE: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Alexandre A. P. Suaide
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Jostein [ISO-8859-1] Xksne wrote: > Hi, Alexandre. > You missed my point... > It's easy for computer literals to convert between media. We > eagerly await the future for another chance to convert our images > to brave new technology...:-) > > My point was that the conversi

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Alexandre A. P. Suaide" > Maybe we can have an idea. I don't know the prices but how much expensive > is a super-8 film today when compared to 30 years ago. We should remember > to take into account the inflaction of this period. Maybe the price will > be alm

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ DS for me, yet?

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
They creation of excitement that I must have what's new, special, better, more exciting. How else does a consumables business survive? Collin What marketing? - -- Mark Roberts Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ DS for me, yet? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mai

RE: LX v MX/ME-S (was Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet)

2001-09-05 Thread Skofteland, Christian
Shel Belinkoff wrote: "The LX allows the use of a grip without having to attach a winder, unlike the MX or ME-S." When I received my LX it had the Grip-B which I removed (along with the strap) as an ungainly eye-sore. Well, I didn't want to lose it so after playing with the came

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think we are violently agreeing, just from different directions. As we compare digital to film, we are generally doing so with our favorite emulsions (the ones that will slowly be discontinued). If all that was left was Gold 200 and Superia 400, digital might be more appealing. I do agree, th

RE: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi, Alexandre. You missed my point... It's easy for computer literals to convert between media. We eagerly await the future for another chance to convert our images to brave new technology...:-) My point was that the conversion task, and even the task of sitting down before one of them silly

RE: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Alexandre A. P. Suaide
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Mike Johnston wrote: > Christian wrote: > > > I don't think I'm alone on this one. If it were to get prohibitively > > expensive due to decreased demand then I guess I, along with just about > > every Nature/Wildlife photographer out there, would be SOL. > > > I just don't

RE: SCA flash compatibility - Super A to MZ5n

2001-09-05 Thread Paris, Leonard
I have a metz SCA adapter that I use with my PZ-1p and a Metz 45CT-4. The adapter has a spot beam. I suspect that the same SCA adapter would work with the MZ-5n. I'm not at home now but I think the model number is: SCA 3701. You can always look at http://ww.metz.de and find out. All of the inf

Re: Jody gets assertive with NZ Customs.

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:19 AM Subject: Re: Jody gets assertive with NZ Customs. > You have to pay tax on the shipping? Wow! > --graywolf We have the same situation in Canada. We call i

Re: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Gary J Sibio
At 05:15 PM 9/4/01 +0800, you wrote: >Trouble is I've never played a (vinyl) record that didn't have the odd >crackle or snap. If you can ignore that - then yes, it sounds surprisingly >good. Film on the hand has no such artefacts (to my amateur eyes ;-)) so it >should be able to put up a good f

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" Subject: Re: Slides vs. digital > Sadly, the numbers are against us. The fact that it is slowly starting to > happen is an indicator. I still disagree with this. Even if what Mike says about SLR users abandoning film in droves is true, the SLR

Re: website (finally)

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
> > http://homepage.mac.com/hood1616/PhotoAlbum.html The Capilano Canyon shot is lovely. Nice work! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.kom

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You're evil! No, I'm enabling you. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > But here I think you're nuts! Just try to tilt > your lens forward or backward a couple of degrees > on the 67 or 35mm. You'll miss it quickly. Well, I rarely used it outside of studio stuff, and I don't shoot much studio these days. More often I run around with my

RE: Slides vs digital

2001-09-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
How real do people turn...? Silly question, sorry...:-) IMHO, the advance of digital photography is related to other issues than _just_ the advance of affordable technology. [enter rambling mode...] A great number of people will have a lot of pleasure in producing images digitally, view them

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Sadly, the numbers are against us. The fact that it is slowly starting to happen is an indicator. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Skofteland, Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: RE: Slides v

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread admin
>>It hit me the other day while I was out shooting >> with my glorious (and, >>of late, neglected) Pentax 67: >>I don't need an MZ-S right now. > >Wow! It's good to see someone driven by practicality over marketing! What marketing? -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ=2 0 DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread admin
>> Yeah, well that's fine for you... >> But what all the rest of us who now need a 67 after reading your post?! > >Well, a used 67 with a metering prism and the 105mm f2.4 can be found >for under $1000 Canadian, if you don't mind the body being cosmetically >ugly. That's less than an MZ-S! :) Yo

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ DS for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yeah, well that's fine for you... > But what all the rest of us who now need a 67 after reading your post?! Well, a used 67 with a metering prism and the 105mm f2.4 can be found for under $1000 Canadian, if you don't mind the body being cosmetically ugly. That's less

Re: An equipment epiphany: no MZ-S for me, yet

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It hit me the other day while I was out shooting > with my glorious (and, >of late, neglected) Pentax 67: >I don't need an MZ-S right now. Wow! It's good to see someone driven by practicality over marketing! >I've just sold my Arca Swiss 4x5 in a

Re: Please,_stop_all_other_topics,_we_must_addr

2001-09-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoth Jody: > This is really serious. I feel like I am insulting > this guy every time I call him "Pel". What's the accepted ASCII transliteration for the time before Unicode? Isn't it "Paal"? (Pal/Pel/Paal, could you please let me know whether I've got that right? I seem to remember seeing y

RE: LX Viewfinder magnification?

2001-09-05 Thread Skofteland, Christian
according to: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/thepentaxlx.html#AccessoriesFindermo delsanddetails the magnification is 0.9 The original LX brochure states 95% horizontal and 98% vertical. hope this helps. Christian Skofteland -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: OT: Vivitar 70-210/3.5 series 1 opinions wanted

2001-09-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I've several friends with this lens in C* mount, and they really like it. It's an older optical design but still competes favorably with many newer lenses. Consider it a medium-weight lens. A bit bulky, but not as much as a 2.8 would be. It commonly sells for $100 to $150 in the US. That's just

Re: CZJ 80/1,8 with K mount?

2001-09-05 Thread Sas Gabor
Hi, On 5 Sep 2001, krytu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does somebody know anything about CZJ Prakticar 80/1,8 MC with K mount? > Ii it good as a portrait lens compare to CZJ 135/2,8 MC and SMC A > 135/2,8? I know SMC 85/1,4 is superb but it`s out of my range. No CZJ lenses were made for K moun

Re: Christian's loyalty to slides

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Mike Johnston wrote: > I may be the only person on the planet who is both getting into digital in a > big way and ALSO building a fine custom black-and-white darkroom in my > basement at the same time. I love film/chemical black-and-white, and that > won't change just because I'm learning about d

Re: Slides vs. digital

2001-09-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
"Skofteland, Christian" wrote: > Can > you imagine Janus Kaminski filming Schindler's List with digital video? Actually, with the very best we've got today, if he had shot with DV after doing the same testing he would with film stocks, I'd bet we couldn't tell the difference. Funny story from

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