RE: Cable switch for MZ-S

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks a lot Rob - I have now added it to my watch list. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juli 2004 00:44 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Cable switch for MZ-S On 14 Jul 2004

ZX-M metering

2004-07-14 Thread Brian Dunn
Re: 2 segment metering: http://members.tripod.com/~ZXM/ http://members.tripod.com/ZXM/zxm_test.html The second link has a graph showing the 2 segment metering. Re: flash: I don't think it has TTL metering, so the camera doesn't do much flash thinking for you. With some flashes it seems that it w

Re: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Ok, I have calibrated the monitor again. It was very slightly off. I also found that I had put up the original uncorrected photo for the PAW. I have corrected for white balance and also lightened a bit as Paul suggested. So for those who care to see the changed one: http://www.daytonphoto.com/P

Re: PAW: Monster - resend

2004-07-14 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi David, http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/hans/pics/Imgp0089_04_real.jpg is a part of the picture in real resolution. I used the lens for the first time for these shots. And I am quite content regarding that I didn't used a tripot. The nice thing is, it is very small and light. But one has

Re: PAW: Monster

2004-07-14 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi Steve, Rob, it was relatively early and the sun started to shine through the clouds. Flies love then to sit and wait. I took several shots leaning my hand on the wall where the fly was sitting. Focus bracketing was by chance: The focus was on the different shots on different positions allover t

Re: Paw: 2456.jpg

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Bill, Every time you post something that has a studio orientation to it, I want to ask about lighting. I am still learning and always enjoy seeing how something is done. So I am going to ask again, how did you light this? I rather like how her clothing is rather shadowed and low key, while her

Re: Paw: 2456.jpg

2004-07-14 Thread ernreed2
Mr Robb posted: > Tasteful female content. > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/2456.jpg > She's in a nice pose, Mr Robb, but her face seems rather in need of more light. ER

Re: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Paul, Nice to be talking about photography. I'll re-calibrate later tonight and then take another look at this. I'll certainly take a stab at your suggestions and see what I think. Thanks for looking. Bruce Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:55:20 PM, you wrote: PS> I love this shot. But i agree w

RE: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras

2004-07-14 Thread Amita Guha
> -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras > > > Subject: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras > > > > I notice that the *istD and the Optio 550 na

RE: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread ernreed2
> > -Original Message- > > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: PAW: Sleepy > > > > > > While on vacation, I had the joy of being the official trailer puller > > when on a group bike ride. In the t

Paw: 2456.jpg

2004-07-14 Thread William Robb
Tasteful female content. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/2456.jpg

Re: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks, Don. My monitor has been calibrated with a Spyder and it seems about right. I am going to re-calibrate tonight as it has been a month or two since last doing it. I'll let you know if it changes. Bruce Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:44:48 PM, you wrote: DS> Beautiful children and photo! D

Re: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks Tan, for the comment and info on relations. That hair has it's moments! Bruce Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:30:44 PM, you wrote: TMP> w, that is just adorable! TMP> BTW, I believe that you're neice's baby would be your "great nephew/niece". TMP> Your daughter is so beautifu

Re: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I love this shot. But i agree with Don's comment about warming it up a bit. I would up the brightness a tad as well. If you have it in RAW, I'd go back and set the color temp about 300 degrees higher and up the exposure a bit as well. But it's a great capture. Fantastic image. Paul On Jul 14, 20

Re: OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Make that antagonistic and viral. On Jul 14, 2004, at 11:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I remember the Mafud wars quite well. They were antagonistic and virile, yet not so personal as the recent conflagrations. No one spoke of kill-filing members. Disagreement was rampant, yet not as personal as i

RE: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Don Sanderson
Or,... it could be the blue trailer. DUH! It's way past my bed time, night y'all. Don > -Original Message- > From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Sleepy > > > Beautiful children and photo! > Looks

Re: zx-m/mz-m metering questions

2004-07-14 Thread Badri A
Thanks, Don. I see what you mean now: I thought the 50/1.2 was quoted as an example for all SMC/SMC-M (i.e. K mount) lenses. On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:40:23 -0500, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can answer one of those.

RE: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Don Sanderson
Beautiful children and photo! Looks a little "cool" on my monitor. Maybe a touch more warmth would help the skin tones? Could just be the monitor, but I've tried to keep it true to color. Don > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2

RE: zx-m/mz-m metering questions

2004-07-14 Thread Don Sanderson
I can answer one of those. The 1 stop overexposure problem is referring to the 50mm f:1/1.2 "SuperFast lens. The camera doesn't understand that lens too well. You will not have the problem with your 50mm f:1/2 lens. Confusing terminology, took me a while to figure it out when I got a ZX-M. I'll try

Re: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras

2004-07-14 Thread William Robb
Subject: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras > I notice that the *istD and the Optio 550 name files in exactly the same way. I > don't suppose there's some kind of easy fix available so as not to cause > confusion when files from both sources are stored in the same place? > I think I would batch r

Re: OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I remember the Mafud wars quite well. They were antagonistic and virile, yet not so personal as the recent conflagrations. No one spoke of kill-filing members. Disagreement was rampant, yet not as personal as it is today. And I'm not speaking of my personal experience. Although I posted the ima

RE: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
w, that is just adorable! BTW, I believe that you're neice's baby would be your "great nephew/niece". Your daughter is so beautiful Bruce, look at that hair! tan. -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL

zx-m/mz-m metering questions

2004-07-14 Thread Badri A
Hi, I am a novice photographer, learning the game with a ZX-M (MZ-M in Europe, I believe) behind a SMC-A 50/2 lens (I own no other equipment whatsoever, though I intend to get a tripod and maybe a flash). The manual says it does 'Multi (2)-segment metering' if the lens has an information contact

Re: OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! PS> The list has become insane. The evidence is there for all to read. PS> We've suffered a series of horrific off-topic flame wars. Apparently, PS> this latest religious, political, philosophical flame war was initiated PS> by my referencing a few rather tame nudes that I had posted on one of

PAW: Sleepy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
While on vacation, I had the joy of being the official trailer puller when on a group bike ride. In the trailer were my 3 yr old daughter and 4 month old xxx (niece's baby - not sure what the official relation is). Somewhere along the way, they both fell asleep. It was such a cute moment: www.da

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Obviously you don't have a perverse enough sense of humor. I just haven't come up with anything worthy. So I will refrain. Paul Stenquist wrote: No Peter, it does not. On Jul 14, 2004, at 9:57 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: You know, this just begs for a smart ass answer... Paul Stenquist wrote: I a

Re: OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Seems you don't remember the Mafud wars. Those were if anything worse. Part of the problem is that some of the newcomers on the list don't realize the diversity of this community we are, and that we have long ago learned to live with our differences. The list is no more insane today than it wa

Re: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I already suffer that now with two *ist D's. Not to mention, the numbering wraps around once you hit . The general approach I am using now is to copy a card to a directory and batch rename the files. Copy the next card and batch rename, etc. Bruce Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:36:29 PM, you

Re: OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
In some respects, Paul, I have to agree. Even though I was out of town for the past week and a half (still receiving pdml mail), I didn't see much to comment on. Those who join the flames can't seem to let well enough alone. When there is not a right or wrong side to the debate, just a differenc

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
Listen up. THERE IS NO PROTESTANT CHURCH. Further, it is a faulty, sophomoric assumption that all or even most non Catholics are protestant! It seems that folks like you (you know, the prejudice type) develop a caricature of those they wish to demonize. They (that would be you) then assign folks to

Re: (on-topic) Pentax digital cameras

2004-07-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
I don't own either camera but I think I read somewhere that the naming on the *ist-D files was programmable. Sorry I don't have more information. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that the *istD and the Optio 550 name files in exactly the same way. I don't suppose there's some kind of easy fix a

RE: The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Don Sanderson
Paul I agree, I learned more about photography and Pentax in my first few days on this list than in all the days since. If you find a "moderated" site/list where I can learn more (about photography) would you please let me know privately. Cross my heart and hope to die I won't swerve from the top o

(on-topic) Pentax digital cameras

2004-07-14 Thread ernreed2
I notice that the *istD and the Optio 550 name files in exactly the same way. I don't suppose there's some kind of easy fix available so as not to cause confusion when files from both sources are stored in the same place? ERN

Re: Religious Crap Not Apologetic & Pentax Too

2004-07-14 Thread ernreed2
Peter Loveday posted: > Haven't had any politics to speak of yet. Had the politics flamefest last month. I think that was recent enough. Check the archive ... ER

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No Peter, it does not. On Jul 14, 2004, at 9:57 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: You know, this just begs for a smart ass answer... Paul Stenquist wrote: I always pack a tripod in my suitcase. No problem. Paul On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:52 PM, Frits Wüthrich wrote: Sunday we will fly to the island of Crete in

OT:The PDML is Dying

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
The list has become insane. The evidence is there for all to read. We've suffered a series of horrific off-topic flame wars. Apparently, this latest religious, political, philosophical flame war was initiated by my referencing a few rather tame nudes that I had posted on one of my own web pages

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread AvK
We do this for some time now. So far it worked fine, we have two tripods with heads in the suitcase... Put clothes around it, that it doesn't move inside the suitcase. Make sure that the suitcase is sturdy and it should be not too heavy. If the suitase is too heavy as a whole it tends to break whe

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Jostein
When I went to USA this spring, I had a Sachtler tripod with a Foba Superball head as a carry-on. THey didn't object at Oslo Airport. They *did* object at check-in at Newark, though. So I sent it as registered luggage without any further protection. No harm done, but I won't take that chance again.

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jul 2004 at 18:47, Christian wrote: > That's what I did. I've done it many times too though only on internal flights since 11/9/01 Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Anders Hultman
Henri: Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently sentenced to 30 days in jail for simiply reading Bible passages which dealt with a Christian view of homosexuality. What's more fascinating is that I haven't heard of this said pastor. And I _live_ in Sweden. The story is true, and have gotten so

Re: Trying to remember the name of a photographer

2004-07-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jul 2004 at 18:12, Amita Guha wrote: > I have an actual question about photography. :) There is a photographer > who had a custom-made camera and made an enormous print of a meadow with > a mountain in the background. The print apparently took up an entire > wall at a gallery here in NY rece

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Christian
That's what I did. Christian - Original Message - From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: tripod in suit case > Sunday we will fly to the island of Crete in Greece for a 15 day vacation. > I am wondering if it w

Re: Cable switch for MZ-S

2004-07-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jul 2004 at 15:18, Stephen Moore wrote: > Hello Jens -- > > About a year ago Bill Owens said on this topic: > > >> IIRC the *ist D and ZX-L use the same remote cable, which is > >> different from those for the MZ-S and which is different > >> from the other ZX series. IOW, if you have

RE: The 70-210mm f4-5.6 SMC Pentax-F showed up today!

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Hello Don Looking forward to seeing some of your shots. If there's enough light to get a decent shutter speed, it's great. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. juli 20

RE: SMCP (orignal K mount) lenses: black letterbox window at rear

2004-07-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jul 2004 at 10:13, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I think it is pretty obvious why the screwmount versions didn't > use these "letterboxes". The screwmount lenses did not have the > advantage of precise rotational orientation like the k mounts do > because the fit varies slightly from body to body

Costs and Conclusions

2004-07-14 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
For being and in response to my conduct as a Christian I have been a) fired from jobs b) denied job opportunities c) beat up d) publicly humiliated (on numerous occasions) e) falsely accused of lying ( www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=

Re: Muvo question

2004-07-14 Thread Keith Whaley
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: [...] There are two different drives in thd MUVO - if you were lucky enough to get the early model, you will be fine to use it, if you have a later one, then you won't be able to. Also, did you buy an *ist D?... And what is a 44c? That's a very large one of which th

RE: Cable switch for MZ-S

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks Stephen and Alxeander. It seems the one on ebay (FDP) does NOT fot the MZ-S. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15421&item=3827437192 Thank for being very helpful. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse

Re: Trying to remember the name of a photographer

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Amita, Yeah, I heard about that too. Cant remember his name - I think it was comented on here so check the archive. Do a search for LF. Aparetnly he had to make his own camera a the normal LF stuff wasnt good enough for him. Antonio On 15 Jul 2004, at 00:12, Amita Guha wrote: I have an actual q

Re: Trying to remember the name of a photographer

2004-07-14 Thread Bob W
Hi, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 11:12:40 PM, Amita wrote: > I have an actual question about photography. :) There is a photographer > who had a custom-made camera and made an enormous print of a meadow with > a mountain in the background. The print apparently took up an entire > wall at a gallery h

Re: Religious Crap Not Apologetic & Pentax Too

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Stop the War, continue the discussion, love thy wife, forgive the weak, never forget! Antonio On 15 Jul 2004, at 00:12, Jens Bladt wrote: Stop the relion discussion - love thy neigbourgh - forgive sinners - forget the rest! Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -

Re: Religious Crap Not Apologetic & Pentax Too

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Great post Robert! A+ On 15 Jul 2004, at 00:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William, your comments are right on: "Much of the Bible is, by todays standards, hate literature, and should be dealt with in those terms". As a gay American, I have personally experienced the no-stop hatred, stupidity and

Trying to remember the name of a photographer

2004-07-14 Thread Amita Guha
I have an actual question about photography. :) There is a photographer who had a custom-made camera and made an enormous print of a meadow with a mountain in the background. The print apparently took up an entire wall at a gallery here in NY recently, and the level of detail was such that the clos

RE: Religious Crap Not Apologetic & Pentax Too

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Stop the relion discussion - love thy neigbourgh - forgive sinners - forget the rest! Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juli 2004 00:03 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Rel

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Sounds like you lost the argument to me and are not big enough to admit it. Exactly who "classyfied your beleif system as being comprise of hate and being Nazi exactly"? I have seen none of this. You appear to be purposely twisting the facts to make it appear that is the case. When it is not.

Religious Crap Not Apologetic & Pentax Too

2004-07-14 Thread RDJ92807
William, your comments are right on: "Much of the Bible is, by todays standards, hate literature, and should be dealt with in those terms". As a gay American, I have personally experienced the no-stop hatred, stupidity and anti-gay violence preached by a large segment of the American "Christian

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
The initial statement made was along an on-topic theme specifically related to PDML. But it diverged quickly. Unfortunately even some normally rational persons digressed into classifying my belief system as being comprised of "hate" and being "Nazi". (Alas it's something I've become personally fa

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/04, Bob W, discombobulated, offered: >> Sunday we will fly to the island of Crete in Greece for a 15 day vacation. >> I am wondering if it would be a good idea to take my manfrotto >> 3021 with 3047 head in a suitcase and check it in. What do you all >> think? > >you might be able to take

RE: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Amita Guha
> >Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently sentenced to > 30 days in > >jail for simiply reading Bible passages which dealt with a Christian > >view of homosexuality. > > > >So much for the lie of tolerance. > > > >Collin > > > > > What's more fascinating is that I haven't heard of this

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Well, I lost a large part of my family due to the Nazis and the Church. I dont think it is very funny at all Tan. Obviously this Goodwin person thinks he is really clever. Given the very frighning changes to US foreign policy of late I think we all need to be very clear just where pre-emptive w

Re: tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Bob W
Hi, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 9:52:59 PM, Frits wrote: > Sunday we will fly to the island of Crete in Greece for a 15 day vacation. > I am wondering if it would be a good idea to take my manfrotto > 3021 with 3047 head in a suitcase and check it in. What do you all > think? you might be able to

RE: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Ha! That Godwin's Law is hilarious! Very cool, Bob! tan. -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2004 7:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: apologetic Thanks Bob, That's the best laugh I've had all day! Don > -Original Messag

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Glad your happy Don. But I dont think that the victims of religious intolerance and the church's historical collusion in murder abuses are particularly chuffed. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 23:00, Don Sanderson wrote: Thanks Bob, That's the best laugh I've had all day! Don -Original Message---

Re: Cable switch for MZ-S

2004-07-14 Thread alexanderkrohe
> Does any of you know which cable switch can be used for MZ-S? > Is it perhaps the same as the rest of the MZ series? > Ther's one at ebay named number 3827437192. > Is it discontinued (not on Pentax USA's site) > All the best > Jens Bladt QUOTE from Boz' site:- "Cable Switc

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Interesting dynamic you have going on there Peter J. Alling. Hurl abuse and then delete responses from the person you have insulted. How old are you exactly? Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 22:57, Peter J. Alling wrote: Bob, Bob, just kill file him and get it over with. I have and life is sweet. You

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread DagT
På 14. jul. 2004 kl. 22.49 skrev Henri Toivonen: Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Fascinating. Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently sentenced to 30 days in jail for simiply reading Bible passages which dealt with a Christian view of homosexuality. So much for the lie of tolerance. Collin What'

RE: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Bob, That's the best laugh I've had all day! Don > -Original Message- > From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: apologetic > > > Hi, > > > Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you'v

Re: Strange add F 70-200mm

2004-07-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Looks like a non SMC Pentax F look here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_non-SMC/pen-F_70-200f4-5.6.html Jens Bladt wrote: I didn't know this lens was ever made??? Mine (F 70-210mm) has red figures, not white printet on the barrel. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3827242

Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
That'll do it. I lose track of these things after a while. ;-) >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/04 04:28PM >>> Steve D asked: > Why not an MX? I notice it wasn't really considered in this thread. Perhaps because the original post mentioned that aperture-priority was an important consideration ER

tripod in suit case

2004-07-14 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Sunday we will fly to the island of Crete in Greece for a 15 day vacation. I am wondering if it would be a good idea to take my manfrotto 3021 with 3047 head in a suitcase and check it in. What do you all think? -- Frits Wüthrich

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Henri Toivonen
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Fascinating. Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently sentenced to 30 days in jail for simiply reading Bible passages which dealt with a Christian view of homosexuality. So much for the lie of tolerance. Collin What's more fascinating is that I haven't heard o

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Bob, Bob, just kill file him and get it over with. I have and life is sweet. You're not going to change his mind, (I almost added if he has one, but that would just be fueling the fire so to speak). Oh that's right I did. Let me apologize in advance. Bob Blakely wrote: Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi.

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: apologetic > > "Christianity is advertised like soap powder in America"? Really! Exactly > which shelf is it on? In my neighborhood, they come door to door, sort of like Fuller Brush salesmen in dark suits. William Robb

Religious crap: not apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" Subject: Re: apologetic > > In the West the Left is currently telling us to give up what we hold to, even within the 4 walls of our meeting facilities. Specifically, in Sweden a pastor was recently sentenced to 30 days in jail for simiply

Re: New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, offered: >You are probably right. However, some of the most successful camera designs >have been very simple shapes - like the Hassie, or Rollei 66 or many other >6x6's - they are basically cubes - like this one. A very simple shape with a >handle. Maybe ju

Strange add F 70-200mm

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Sorry about this - there WAS a F 70-200mm - BTW rated rather poorly (2.9) at photodo.com. I didn't know this lens was ever made??? Mine (F 70-210mm) has red figures, not white printet on the barrel. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3827242156 Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Me and my 250-600 (now nothing to do with filing cabinets)

2004-07-14 Thread John Francis
> > Hi! > > >There are two shots there not taken with a Pentax camera, > >but with a Nikon point-and-shoot (35mm, not digital). > >One, obviously, is the shot of me holding my camera. > >Would anyone care to guess which the other one is? > > Is it monopod or tripod? And what is the total weight

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Bob, Not sure what I have lost. Nobody has galled the other bob a Nazi. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 21:23, Bob W wrote: Hi, Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you've tacked onto me. All the others on the list will be proud of you, send you many accolades, etc. Naw, they'll just

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Bob, Nobody called you a Nazi. Was merely reminding you that the protestant church has been as naugthy as the catholic one in the past, and that vis-a-vis this thread and the debate regarding morals and the like, the Church, whatever its designation, has historically been no different than anyo

Strange add F 70-200mm

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
I didn't know this lens was ever made??? Mine (F 70-210mm) has red figures, not white printet on the barrel. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3827242156 Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Interesting point. So who is Godwin (God win) ? Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. juli 2004 21:23 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: apologetic Hi, > Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go

14mm DA UK Price

2004-07-14 Thread Nick Clark
Hi all Just got back from holiday with a mountain of pictures to sort through. I unsubscribed so I'll check the archives later for anything interesting. Waiting for me was Pentax User Magazine with details of the 14mm DA lens and a price mentioned of £700! Is this right? I was expecting about £

RE: Thing of Beauty

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, ehhh... Don't loose it in the fire, Gullum! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. juli 2004 12:22 Til: Pentax-Discuss Emne: Thing of Beauty FA 200 macro just arrived a

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2004-07-14 Thread Amita Guha
Hey El Gringo, You might be interested in this Politics discussion list that I'm on. We discuss this sort of thing all the time there. http://lists.lists.mx2pro.com/mailman/listinfo/politics Take care, Amita > -Original Message- > From: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednes

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
... after "Christianity" took it away from us in the first place, remember? You seem to have conveniently forgotten the which hunts, expulsions, torture and killings that were all conducted in the name of chistendom and condoned by the Church. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 18:21, Collin Brendemueh

RE: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread El Gringo
Hi Colin, The Pope thinks George Bush is the anti-christ. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880 There goes your left wing conspiracy. Honestly Colin, the left doesn't want to take away your religion, those of the left who have children, just want to be able to sen

Re: PAW: Chopper

2004-07-14 Thread Jim Apilado
I like cat pictures. I take a lot of my cat using another company's digital. Jim A. > From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:53:08 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PAW: Chopper > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Wed

Re: civil discourse (was Re: PAW: Temptation of Eve, the three shot series)

2004-07-14 Thread Gonz
El Gringo wrote: Society decays for any number of reasons. Poverty is the worst. I think perhaps, nudity in society is not a cause but an effect of other problems. Julius Ceasar said that "Poverty is the mother of all crime." Poverty fosters immorality. Decay stems from poverty not from nudity

Re: New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Christian
The video function is definitely not a gimick. You should be able to get about 20mins of high quality VGA video with sound on a 512MB card. It may not seem like a lot but the video is amazing. You can drop the quality or size of the video for more capacity but I haven't tried that yet. Also,

RE: New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Here's a first impression: http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/firstlook/pentax/optioMX/index_en.html Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. juli 2004 17:05 Til: PDML Emne: New toy

Re: New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Bill, I'm curious about how it records when doing the video. Does it just write to the memory card? About how many minutes can be stored on the card? What about audio? Guess I am trying to determine if it can be used as a video camera or if it is more gimmicky like the video modes on most digi

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
From: John Forbes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:21:18 -0700 > > >Perhaps, Colin, if Christians weren't trying to impose their >standards on others, or >"seeking to persuade", often by very >crude methods (Christianity is

Re: New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Christian
My came from B&H yesterday. So far I think it's great. Haven't had a lot of time to test it. ISO 400 seems a bit noisy but useable for snapshots (the reason for the purchase). The video is amazing. I sent a message last night to the list but so far no one responded... :-( Christian -Or

New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Bill Owens
Sent this awhile ago, but haven't seen it show up yet. Apologies if this is a duplicate post: While visiting a local camera shop yesterday, the wife and I found out they'd just that morning received their first shipment of 2 Optio MX's. The wife okayed the purchase (probably so she could have HE

Re: PAW: Temptation of Eve, the three shot series

2004-07-14 Thread mike wilson
That's why I spelled it the way I did. Steve Larson wrote: Politicians are real "boobs". Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: Re: PAW: Temptation of Eve

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread John Forbes
Perhaps, Colin, if Christians weren't trying to impose their standards on others, or "seeking to persuade", often by very crude methods (Christianity is advertised like soap powder in America), people would be less likely to "make light" of some of their more bizarre hang-ups. And as for not

Re: Completely OT: RE: PAW: Self Portrait...

2004-07-14 Thread Gonz
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Ok, so I have been completely bombarded with off-list emails. I thank you all so much for your amazing words of support and love. I really don't want to air any more of my private life on list as it is about as far off topic as it could possibly be, and besides, it

Re: SMCP (orignal K mount) lenses: black letterbox window at rear

2004-07-14 Thread Tom Reese
Antonio asked: "Can anyone tell me how important the matt black metalic letterbox is on k mount fixed lenght lenses, as one seems to have come unstuck on my 135/2.5 and was wondering if it was necessary at all to stick it back on (not an easy job as I would have to somehow get it perfectly horizon

New toy

2004-07-14 Thread Bill Owens
While visiting a local camera shop yesterday, the wife and I found out they'd just that morning received their first shipment of 2 Optio MX's. The wife okayed the purchase (probably so she could have HER Optio S back), so we walked out with one of them. My first impression is that it is quite a c

Re: apologetic

2004-07-14 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Ahh, Goya. La Maja Desnuda - beautifull. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 15:54, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I do mean Goya. Collin - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: apologetic Hi, Spanish Revolution? Sure you dont mean Spanish Inquisition? or French Revolution perha

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