Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread John Francis
> > >I have seen my investment in K mount lenses go out the window > >when Pentax decided against full compatibility. > > How does K & M lenses/non-A work on the *ist D (firmware 1.1. installed)? > Do I have to focus and shoot stopped down (like with an old, preset lens) - > with a dark vievfinde

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: Caveman goes digital > So now I have some questions - not brand specific. I've read that some > people preffer to use these digi P&S with a "low sharpening" setting and > the lowest ISO, and do the sharpening later in Photoshop or whatever.

RE: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Caveman I wonder whether a Digicam *automagically* leads to good PAW and PESO, I think that the overall quality of the shoots often suffers if you have media *a discretion* . But I understand you where not serious here :-) Infrared is painful slow, only works to about 1 Meter distance and needs

RE: 1978 25th Anniversary Corvette

2004-08-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice photograph, Paul. To me the light gray beam in the window above the car is a bit disturbing. All the best Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 7. august 2004 22:48 Til:

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Jens Bladt a écrit : I have seen my investment in K mount lenses go out the window when Pentax decided against full compatibility. How does K & M lenses/non-A work on the *ist D (firmware 1.1. installed)? Do I have to focus and shoot stopped down (like with an old, preset lens) - 1- You foc

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread John Francis
> > Only things that bugs me is why it must be so difficult to transfer the > images to the computer. I mean, I have either to plug an USB cable or > pull out the memory card and insert it in a reader. Why no IR port, so > that I could just put the camera in front of the computer and that's all

RE: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Jens Bladt
>I have seen my investment in K mount lenses go out the window >when Pentax decided against full compatibility. How does K & M lenses/non-A work on the *ist D (firmware 1.1. installed)? Do I have to focus and shoot stopped down (like with an old, preset lens) - with a dark vievfinder? What else wo

PAW - "Rainbow"

2004-08-07 Thread David Mann
I think you guys may have seen this one before. I had an 18x12" print made recently but the machine printed the whole thing a little dark due to the large area of cloud. Next time I'll send them a digital file. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=8-Aug-2004 Cheers, - Dave http:/

RE: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Why are your lenes unusable on a ist D. If I owned no dedicated (Pentax) lenses, bellows, flashes etc., I would definitely go for a Canon 10D. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
How easy do you want it to be, what Norm said plus lazy bum... Caveman wrote: C'mon. I still have an LX and an ME Super and I'll keep the old Oly P&S too (somewhere in the car's glove box). But no way I'll pay any more film & processing & printing for the daily snapshots. And ah, the instant gra

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Tom C
I find the USB connection to be much faster than IR... and far faster than even a 1-hour place... Tom C. From: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Caveman goes digital Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:25:29 -0400 C'mon. I still have an LX and an M

Re: CLA in USA/Canada recommendations

2004-08-07 Thread Rfsindg
Marc, Like Don says, Eric at Premier is a good resource. He repaired/CLA'ed numerous cameras for me. He apparently worked for Pentax at one time. He 'retired' to Tennessee a year or two ago after living in suburban Chicago. He revived KX's and ES's/ESII's with bad meters for me, no problem.

Re: On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Tom C
I'm a dork and am mixing up things... please help me... I'm caught in a temporal anomaly, please Mr. Spock... Tom C. From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On list for a day Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:13:18 -0600 I hope, think that I was

Re: Caveman goes digital

2004-08-07 Thread Caveman
C'mon. I still have an LX and an ME Super and I'll keep the old Oly P&S too (somewhere in the car's glove box). But no way I'll pay any more film & processing & printing for the daily snapshots. And ah, the instant gratification factor imagine how easy I could produce gazzilions of PESOs, P

Re: On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Tom C
I hope, think that I was just expressing a wish and an opinion... I thought Paul S. started it :) Tom C. From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On list for a day Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 23:06:57 -0500 No Tom, I think there was a fla

Re: PESO:second wave - Working on the MS "Silvretta" 1981

2004-08-07 Thread Norm Baugher
Keep them coming Markus, as a travel junkie I love this stuff. Thanks for sharing. Norm Markus Maurer wrote: Please have a look at the presentation at: http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=256444

Re: On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Norm Baugher
No Tom, I think there was a flame war and you started it, you bastard! Norm Antonio wrote: Looked like you were being plretty flamey to me Tom. On 7/8/04 11:29 pm, "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There wasn't a flame war over HCB. Maybe a little spirited discussion, but not a flame war.

Re: Pentax 1.7X AF Adapter

2004-08-07 Thread Herb Chong
the only lens worth using it on is the 35-105/3.5, but it is marginal even in bright light because of the loss of light in the adapter. i think anything slower than a 2.8 isn't worth it. also, an extender magnifies the center portion of the lens circle and so if you are using it on a less than supe

Re: Pentax Zx-D in Korea

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
If you can call it that... Brendan wrote: --- "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sadly... (Pentax Marketing Strikes Again!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax has marketing? __ Post your free ad now! http://persona

RE: One more to go!

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
I know what you mean about the 85, I'm just going to use the 35-135 for now. I do have a 19, 28, 200 and 300 but the 300 isn't very good. Don't know about the hood yet, I'll let you know when it arrives in a few days. Don > -Original Message- > From: Jon M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sen

Re: Test

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Oh, yes. I forgot. Carry on as before. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: Test Why apologize, be proud, damnit!! I am Canadian! William Robb

Re: One more to go!

2004-08-07 Thread Jon M
Hey, that's the exact same 135 I bought after asking about the exact same Takumar 135. :) Does the hood on that one stay out fine? Mine doesn't like to stay in the extended position, it sags or falls back in. I've been happy with the results from it tho. I lack a bit more than just a 35... I'm s

Re: OT: Manfrotto Monopod enabled (334B)

2004-08-07 Thread fra
KW> I guess what I need is a head for the monopod that is basic. Quick Release KW> and the ability to turn the camera for portrait type shots. Hi Kevin, it's the other mentioned one - I don't recall the number, but it's just a thing that can rotate in only one direction - vertical/horisontal, 90 d

One more to go!

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Found a nice A 35-105/3.5 the other day. Just got this 135, 19 minutes after it listed: http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/135_35.jpg (No, I won't say the price this time, but it was better than KEH):) Thanks for all your help deciding which one was the best "bang for the buck". All I'm after now is

Re: A whopper of a WOW...

2004-08-07 Thread Jostein
Here's my (first) attempt. http://www.oksne.net/wow/tanWow.html Suggestions for further improvements? Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.tanyamayer.com/wowforweb.jpg >

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Okay, okay...let's try to get rid of the paranoia, alright? No, I mean you... I suppose I could have just said, "Huh? Whaddya mean?" But, I tried to talk to what you said... Just assume I'm an old fart and sometimes just don't get it, if the comments are a bit obscure. I wasn't funnin' you. It's o

Re: OT: Manfrotto Monopod enabled (334B)

2004-08-07 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, fra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Whilst on the subject of Manfrotto monopods, What heads are folks out there > >> using, and why that particular head? > > I am using a normal medium ball head. But if you intend to use it for > superteles (like 2.8/300 and similar),

Re: PESO: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Bruce I like the composition - simple and very effective. A classic "lead the eye into the picture" composition. I'd like to have seen the same image photographed later in the day - I think the colours in the vegetation and soils in the distance might have had a bit more impact then? I did

Re: I'm back - was OT- Annsan is with a tough crowd

2004-08-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
And here she is, bloodied but unbowed. Somewhat to my dismay, you can actually see EXACTLY how poorly I did by going to the NSA website. Ugh. for the quick version - I was 14-16 in Division 2 (of 7 divisions) Played a lot of people I didn't know. I pulled only 6 blanks out of 22 (in 11 games)

Re: Test

2004-08-07 Thread John Forbes
Good grief. Treasure the moment! John On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 15:31:31 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why apologize, be proud, damnit!! William Robb wrote: Sorry. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 15:25:54 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I always make fun of Frank and never make fun of Shel. But that's just me. That's because Frank can, and does, make fun of himself. John -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Antonio
Looked like you were being plretty flamey to me Tom. A. On 7/8/04 11:29 pm, "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There wasn't a flame war over HCB. Maybe a little spirited discussion, but > not a flame war. > > Welcome. > > Tom C. > > > >

RE: CLA in USA/Canada recommendations

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
I've dealt with Eric at Premier, seems fair, reasonable and very knowledgable. I believe he was with Pentax for quite some time. He's helped me with a couple of nasty ME Super problems via e-mail, for free! Nice guy too. Don > -Original Message- > From: Pentax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: Pentax Zx-D in Korea

2004-08-07 Thread Brendan
--- "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly... > > (Pentax Marketing Strikes Again!) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pentax has marketing? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

CLA in USA/Canada recommendations

2004-08-07 Thread Pentax
Hello everyone, I need to send out my K1000, ME Super, and Program Plus for cleaning, lubrication, and adjustment. I've found Phil's Camera Service (www.philscamera.com) and Premier Camera (www.premier-camera.com) through search engines. Does anyone have any experience and feedback on either of

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread Antonio
I see you have given up argument yet again Greywolf and feel somehow insult will win you the argument. A. On 7/8/04 11:08 pm, "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two things I would like to address here Keith. First, I know you are > not that dumb. Second, that means you are being a

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread Antonio
Keith, I think that Tom lost the artument regarding focal lengh and perspective/AOV some time ago and just keep arguing so as not to loose face, digging an ever deeper hole for himself. A. On 7/8/04 10:40 pm, "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I essentially don't use any automatic 35mm

RE: On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Tom C
There wasn't a flame war over HCB. Maybe a little spirited discussion, but not a flame war. Welcome. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: On list for a day Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:39:53 -0400 Hi all, I'm back for a day or s

RE: Shirley

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Good movie, great photo, love the foreground detail with the crowd/background. My second 35mm was an 801, tough old beast, just gave it away (still working) a few years ago. Don > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 4:01 PM

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread graywolf
There are two things I would like to address here Keith. First, I know you are not that dumb. Second, that means you are being an (censored). Have fun. -- Keith Whaley wrote: I essentially don't use any automatic 35mm cameras, I almost always use mechanical cameras with a marked f-stop. If I car

PAW: Shirley

2004-08-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Americans probably know Shirley, maybe even the Canadians. If anyone else would like to know her, rent the movie called "Heart Like a Wheel." Bonny Badalia plays Shirley. Good story. I had the pleasure of meeting Shirley several times over the years, and my race car even came up against her on

RE: ReSkema for 7.b 2004/2005: The new baby's here!

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Hey! SMILE when you say that. ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ReSkema for 7.b 2004/2005: The new baby's here! > > > Not a bad deal, na na na na na > > Jens Bladt > ma

PAW: 1978 25th Anniversary Corvette

2004-08-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
The guy who owns this car bought it new. I chose to shoot it in front of a glass walled building instead of the usual void background. The camera was the *ist D, the lens was the SMC Pentax 135/2.5, f11 at whatever on a tripod. The lens was fitted with a polarizer to control reflections a bit.

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread Keith Whaley
I essentially don't use any automatic 35mm cameras, I almost always use mechanical cameras with a marked f-stop. If I carry out the test you outline, I must measure the diameter of the first camera's aperture blade's opening, and set the second camera to that opening diameter, NOT the f-stop? Is

On list for a day

2004-08-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi all, I'm back for a day or so, just in time for the ping pong thread and an HCB flame war. I'm doing fine. I'm writing freelance at Y&R. That's going very well and may become permanent. I shot two cars this morning. I used a glass walled building as a background rather than the usual empty m

Re: my apologies

2004-08-07 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I wanted to apologize for my apologies, but with this offer I am not sure I will still get my spanking... On Thursday 05 August 2004 23:38, Bob Blakely wrote: FJW> Maybe one of the girls on the list can give you your spanking. FJW> FJW> Regards, FJW> Bob... FJW> FJW> From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[E

Re: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks for the suggestions. Fortunately it is somewhat close. I'm guessing it will be better with morning light, as it sits 1000 feet down in the bottom of the canyon. Not much sunset light to speak of. I'll have to get up early a couple of mornings and see what it looks like. -- Best regards,

Re: PESO: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Don, I truly appreciate comments. This is a case where I am unsure about my overall feelings concerning this one. So I figured on putting it up and getting some feedback from others, who's opinions I value. Thanks for all input, good, bad or otherwise. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday,

ReSkema for 7.b 2004/2005: The new baby's here!

2004-08-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Not a bad deal, na na na na na Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 7. august 2004 21:41 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: The new baby's here! No, they're not. They're GREAT deals!

RE: The new baby's here!

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
No, they're not. They're GREAT deals! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Henri Toivonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 2:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The new baby's here! > > > Don Sanderson wrote: > > >$102.01 with shipping. ;-) > >Na Ner

Re: PPP00NNGGG was [Re: Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]]

2004-08-07 Thread Norm Baugher
GOOLLL!! Peter J. Alling wrote: PPPOONNGGG!!! Norm Baugher wrote: PING Peter J. Alling wrote: PONG Bob W wrote: ping

RE: PPP00NNGGG was [Re: Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]]

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Swish...Darn I missed! Don > -Original Message- > From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PPP00NNGGG was [Re: Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]] > > > PPPOONNGGG!!! > > Norm Baugher wrote: > > > PING > > >

Re: Test

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: Test > Why apologize, be proud, damnit!! I am Canadian! William Robb

RE: PESO: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
No offense meant, certain things just get to me. We have a couple of beautiful covered bridges up north, they put "Chain Link Fence" :-( over the windows so no one would jump out! Might's well have painted the beautiful aged oak purple! You are of course 100% correct, just my (old hippie) hangup ab

Re: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bruce, the scene looks like it has possibilities, the railings running off into the distance really grab my attention. Your image doesn't do much for me - centered makes it static & the lighting is harsh (try this again around sunrise or sunset), also a different point of view (higher or lower came

Re: PUG - comments from the PUGmeister

2004-08-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
Adelheid, (& Jostein) thanks for all your thankless efforts on behalf of the PUG. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PUG - comments from the PUGmeister > Hi folks, > > I saw this discussion about PUG vs PAW. > I think Bernd put it ver

Re: my first PESO: The Champion

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
My God, it's a powerful throbbing purple... Jon M wrote: I'm finally getting around to posting some pictures on here for y'all to see. :) http://wcuvax1.wcu.edu/~jm34966/photography/CHAMPION.JPG It's an Electro-Motive Division of General Motors (EMD) E-6 locomotive, formerly belonging to the Atlant

Re: The new baby's here!

2004-08-07 Thread Henri Toivonen
Don Sanderson wrote: $102.01 with shipping. ;-) Na Ner Na Ner Na Ner! (Oops, sorry! I meant, I was just lucky.) (It's that "inner childish..., I mean, "inner child" thing ) :-( Don I got my MX for $60 with shipping. My SMC-M 135/3.5 I got for $25 with shipping. The K28/3.5 for $40 with shipping

PPP00NNGGG was [Re: Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]]

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
PPPOONNGGG!!! Norm Baugher wrote: PING Peter J. Alling wrote: PONG Bob W wrote: ping

RE: The new baby's here!

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
$102.01 with shipping. ;-) Na Ner Na Ner Na Ner! (Oops, sorry! I meant, I was just lucky.) (It's that "inner childish..., I mean, "inner child" thing ) :-( Don > -Original Message- > From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 2:17 PM > To: [EMAIL

Re: Test

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Why apologize, be proud, damnit!! William Robb wrote: Sorry.

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
I always make fun of Frank and never make fun of Shel. But that's just me. John Francis wrote: I don't know - peer pressure (or just fear of appearing stupid) can be a pretty compelling thing. I would imagine it would take a fairly bold poster to speak out here against a photograph from Shel or F

RE: lens testing !

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Now you've gone and shattered MY frail ego! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: fra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:38 PM > To: PDML; PUGW > Subject: lens testing ! > > > The excellent "lens testing" resource is > http://cameraquest.com/lenstest.htm > >

Re: SMC K 55mm 1.8

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Different standards I suppose, or different lenses. I will agree that it becomes razor sharp at f8.0. Fred wrote: It's very good, it follows the usual Pentax normal lens characteristics, a bit soft, (by prime lens standards), wide open. Very sharp when stopped down to 5.6 or 8. I would basi

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread graywolf
Well, the question was about portraiture, as I recall. In actuallity any lens can be used for any photo as long as it is not too long to get the subject into the frame from the distance you have to work in. As for portraits, I love how our English/American cultural biases dictate subject distan

PESO: The bridge to...

2004-08-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
I am interested in thoughts and comments on this one. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_0023.htm *istD, DA 16-45/4 Thanks, Bruce

RE: feedback wanted--SMC Takumar 500/4.5

2004-08-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No, the lenses are NEARLY identical except for mount. The screwmount is more versatile and has better resale market because it fits way more cameras , not only pentax K, but even other makes like Canon AF with an adapter. Hence given a choice between the two for same price and condition, you are

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread fra
Hi, if you do get a zoom for your K1000, do get one with constant aperture (that is, like 80-210/4, not 70-210/4-5.6). Otherwise, your exposure will change when you zoom, and you will have to forever adjust for it. Good light! fra

my first PESO: The Champion

2004-08-07 Thread Jon M
I'm finally getting around to posting some pictures on here for y'all to see. :) http://wcuvax1.wcu.edu/~jm34966/photography/CHAMPION.JPG It's an Electro-Motive Division of General Motors (EMD) E-6 locomotive, formerly belonging to the Atlantic Coast Line Railway. It was probably built in the 194

RE: feedback wanted--SMC Takumar 500/4.5

2004-08-07 Thread Jim Colwell
JCO, If you have a M42 camera then it may make sense to consider that the Takumar is an advantage. Do you have any information that suggests the K and Takumar versions have different optics and/or apertures ? My comments are based on the following quotation from Alex Nemerovsky's site: "K500/4.

Re: OT: Manfrotto Monopod enabled (334B)

2004-08-07 Thread fra
>> Whilst on the subject of Manfrotto monopods, What heads are folks out there >> using, and why that particular head? I am using a normal medium ball head. But if you intend to use it for superteles (like 2.8/300 and similar), I just screwed them directly onto the 'pod, without any head, the few

RE: Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Swish..Darn I missed! > -Original Message- > From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re:Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]] > > > PING > > Peter J. Alling wrote: > > > PONG > > > > Bob W wrote: > > > >> ping >

Re: Re:Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]

2004-08-07 Thread John Forbes
This is a young man's game. Too fast for me. John On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 10:36:15 -0500, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PING Peter J. Alling wrote: PONG Bob W wrote: ping -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread John Forbes
Too late. Frank has already deified him, so beatification and sactification are both now redundant. John On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 01:36:41 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7 Aug 2004 at 17:22, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: What was the my post about, in case you didn't notice, is how t

Re: Tokina 80-200/2.8

2004-08-07 Thread fra
F> I've heard that the Tamron is quite nice (although I'm quite happy F> enough with my AT-X 80-200/2.8). The only thing that keeps me from F> the Tamron Adaptall 2 lenses is the Ka version of the mount - while F> I've found the K version to be quite rugged and foolproof (as in F> "Fred-proof") to

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Aug 2004 at 17:22, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: > What was the my post about, in case you didn't notice, is how > the religiosity around HCB is detrimental to perception of his work. > Perhaps you would like to discuss this, what I wrote about? I hope the controversial cropping issue won't delay h

Re:Ping [was: Pong Was: [ping]]

2004-08-07 Thread Norm Baugher
PING Peter J. Alling wrote: PONG Bob W wrote: ping

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
SB> And one guy from Magnum, expressing a personal opinion, now gives rise to a SB> generalization of the man's character? Most people, especially successful SB> and creative people, have detractors. To bring such a comment into a SB> conversation such as this - a conversation about a man's work

Re: So What's So Great About HCB?

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Doug Franklin wrote: On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 20:53:59 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: I don't know whether to try to find a gallery that's hip enough to be in on the joke or to try to pass it off seriously at some really pretentious place. Seriously. There's more money in serious. :-) Which jus

Pong Was: [ping]

2004-08-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
PONG Bob W wrote: ping

RE: feedback wanted--SMC Takumar 500/4.5

2004-08-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I disagree about the "k" and "screwmount" versions being the same optically and both with same manual aperture and "it makes little difference which you get" quote. It is much more preferrable to get the screwmount version in that case as it can be used on BOTH screwmount and K-mount bodies, where

Test

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
Sorry.

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: RE: first question > Cropping has everything to do with it. You can crop a shot form a 25mm so it > looks identical to the shot you would get from a 85 mm. (focal length does > not change perspective). I believe DOF is very improtant in p

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Re: first question > > > > The 135 is really only excellent as a portrait lens for tight head > > > shots > > > > ...or, if you like to sometimes stand back a little farther from the > > subject. > > I must be really strange, I've man

Re: cost per mm

2004-08-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - Subject: Re: cost per mm > > > The Pentax 15mm f/3.5 that I just enabled myself with was right in > > the US$100/mm range. > > Good stuff ain't cheap. > > > > William Robb > > Depends. A number of Pentax's good old lenses are expensive primarily > because of rarit

RE: Pentax 1.7X AF Adapter

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Robert. It will turn the 50 into an 85 F3.4, and the 28 into a 47 F4.8, both should work fine. The 35-105 becomes an F6 and may not autofocus very well, anything over 5.6 seems "iffy". I just tried the converter on a 70-210/3.5 and wasn't pleased, sometimes it focused OK, sometimes not. This was

RE: PESO:more from my journeys on the MS "Silvretta" 1981

2004-08-07 Thread David Schneider
Markus: I have always been interested in ships in general, and the people who crew them. It is fascinating, to me, to see the large ships ply the seas. Now, if you have some pictures from, oh, say, the early 1800s, that would be good, too . Seeing your pictures from your point of view was great

Pentax 1.7X AF Adapter

2004-08-07 Thread Robert Woerner
Hello, I have a friend who is considering moving into AF Pentax film SLR from MF Super Program. She has the excellent A 35-105 f3.5, A 50 f2.0 in addition to a Gemini 28 f2.8. I have recommended the ZX-L due to budget constraints (otherwise I'd recommend the MZ-S). My question is: How well will t

Re: OT: Manfrotto Monopod enabled (334B)

2004-08-07 Thread Jim Colwell
I have great results with a Manfrotto joystick head (222) on my Manfrotto compact monopod (479-4/LA24). The joystick does not produce gentle & smooth movement, but gives all of the motion required. If you need long exposure times, you can get better support by angling the monopod towards you - pl

RE: Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5

2004-08-07 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Bob, apparently the 135/2.8s I've tried have been SO bad that it made this one look good. ;-) That's why I threw this question out there. Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

feedback wanted--SMC Takumar 500/4.5

2004-08-07 Thread Jim Colwell
I have the SMC 500/4.5 "K mount" version of the SMC Takumar 500/4.5, and I'm very happy with it. AFIK, it is exactly the same as the Tak version, and since it has a manual aperture (not controlled by the body), it makes little difference which you get. I use my SMC 500/4.5 "straight up", and with

RE: Interesting article

2004-08-07 Thread John Power
Yes, thanks for sharing that article. Look who the players are: The top vendors in the digital camera market are Sony, Canon, Kodak, Olympus, Fuji, HP, and Nikon, ranked in terms of 2003 U.S. unit share. Each of these players captures more than 5% market share, and other players capture individua

Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5

2004-08-07 Thread Henri Toivonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don askes: Have I just not experienced a "Great" 135 or is this lens being unfairly treated? Don, I've run some subjective tests with Pentax 135's. The A135/1.8 was best, followed by the K135/2.5, followed by the M135/3.5, with the Takumar A?135/2.8 bayonet in l

Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5

2004-08-07 Thread Rfsindg
Don askes: >>Have I just not experienced a "Great" 135 or is this lens being unfairly treated? Don, I've run some subjective tests with Pentax 135's. The A135/1.8 was best, followed by the K135/2.5, followed by the M135/3.5, with the Takumar A?135/2.8 bayonet in last place. I could see the di

Re: Interesting article

2004-08-07 Thread Herb Chong
film camera figures for Japan show that over there, film camera sales have dropped over 50% since last year and show every sign of dropping even faster. the fastest drop, as expected, are in P&S cameras. Pentax, the 5th largest in sales, lost over 2% of its film camera market share to just over 7%.

Re: first question

2004-08-07 Thread brooksdj
> Hello there, > > I'm new here and was hoping you might be able to answer a couple of > questions. I'm travelling for a few months and hoping to take a lot of > pictures. And hopefully good pictures. I was originally planning on buying > a Nikon Digit

Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5

2004-08-07 Thread Antonio
I cant see any point in you tryingf the M 135/3.5 Don if like with the Takumar you will only take your own impressions if they are backed up by those of others as you have done here. A. On 7/8/04 8:39 am, "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Fred, good answers. > I noticed that t

RE: PAW - My Son's First

2004-08-07 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Norm Hey, I just eye witnessed how those great photographers careers probably start. Or maybe that "photo gene virus" in your family gets active now. greetings to Lukas from chocolate country. Markus > -Original Message- > From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday,

RE: PAW - Gail

2004-08-07 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel Interesting "profession", palm reading. Are they tolerated to do that on the streets in Berkley? I would like to see the writing better and less off the right background. You missed the angle a bit for me but the subject is indeed interesting and well seen. thanks for sharing it Markus

RE: PAW - Best Friends

2004-08-07 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel glad you are still or again here. Without your description this picture does not tell me a lot and for an arranged shot it is not well composed too. sorry, not this time ;-) Markus > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 200

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