I see it.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:46:06 -0400
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO -- Beast
Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:42:15 -0400
Took a long hike in the woods and
On my walk this morning, I came across a tree...
or was it that a branch crossed me?
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/35p.htm
Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.
enjoy
Godfrey
Jon
Quoting Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The meter powered up and appeared to work, so I put
the lenscap back on it and eagerly anticipated
shooting a test roll the following day with it. Much
to my disappointment, the next morning I removed the
lenscap to find that the meter was dead center
What meter switch are you referring to?
--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You didn't by chance have the meter switch in the
'up' position when
you used it the second time? On my Spot F, the
meter doesn't
register when in the 'up' position with SMC lenses
(it does register
with
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:15:50PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
Is it bad that it took me less than 30 seconds to figure out the watch
is set to 2:52?
That's pretty bad, yes. It took me about 3 seconds.
I mean it is designed larger (hence more roomy) than the 156 and for
accepting V8 engines too. Is this enogh for not being an Alfa?
BTW, the Alfa 156 was the car that launched the common rail diesel engine,
invented by Fiat and now an industry standard. It smells Pentax., doesn't
it?
Many
Just ask your local Manfrotto distributor. Being well established among
pros, Bogen Imaging Italia pays attention to customers' satisfaction, so
maybe it is the same over there. (down there?)
Dario
- Original Message -
From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss
fra: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera.
Did you miss that post (last week I think) with the link to Canon's official
demo photos from the 5D? Did you notice how awful the edges were on that
On 29/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
Galia is running and eating some spaghetti...
...a combination that could produce more than a little tummy upset.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
So I just ordered the £195 F-100/2.8 macro recently listed at
ffordes.co.uk... I thought the price seemed a bit lower than what Pentax
macros usually fetch at eBay.. I guess the ones that pop up there are
usually FAs, but based on Bojidar's info I'm assuming the F is
essentially the same lens
On 29/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:
Can somebody please post me a babelfish?
ASAP
Sure:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
On 28/8/05, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:
Did you miss that post (last week I think) with the link to Canon's official
demo photos from the 5D? Did you notice how awful the edges were on that
wide-angle shot? That was taken with Canon's best glass!
With due respect, it is not
On 28/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
On 8/28/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $90US
seems a lot of money just to be carefree and eminently cool LOL.
Reminds me of a sig line on an e-mail I recently received from an old
friend: There are 10 kinds of people in the
I can only suggest looking at the spare parts section of the Manfrotto
website seeing if your camera shop can order the necessary bits for
you.
http://tinyurl.com/cxy2b
Dave
On 8/28/05, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a Manfrotto #055 tripod, with the old style lever locks
On 28/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic. Here are afew
shots of list members.
Cesar and Doug at breakfast. Notice any similarities?http://
twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170http://twosixteen.com/gallery/
Nicely executed. The foreground leaves add interest. You're lucky you
made it out alive!
Paul
On Aug 29, 2005, at 1:46 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Took a long hike in the woods and came across this...
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_beast.html
Technical Info:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @
:-)
Found it.
Have I ever told you I love you Boris? ;-)
Don't worry, kidding, but thanks.
Now I'm going to do some BW conversions with the Channel mixer.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C.
Talking to me? Noo, can't be.
This Norwegian ain't mad. I'm utterly crazy ;-)
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman
Thats not a babelfish? Thats a transducer.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29.
Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I just ordered the £195 F-100/2.8 macro recently listed at
ffordes.co.uk...
You are going to love this lens.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
I misread the subjectline. Thought it was breast ;-)
Imagine the shock confronted with this beast, when expecting something nice!
So now it is official, I misbehave _and_ misread.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very
I've received a few complaints about the formatting. Not sure what
the deal is. I usually send UTF-8. This is plain text. Maybe it
will help.
On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic. Here are a
few shots of list members.
Much better
Dave
On 8/29/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've received a few complaints about the formatting. Not sure what
the deal is. I usually send UTF-8. This is plain text. Maybe it
will help.
On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a roll of HP5+
Now youre talking :-)
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
-Original Message-
From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29. august 2005 13:46
I happily shot a number of photos (no costume changes and not many lighting
changes) and enjoyed the music. The weather was great, around 20C with
clear skies, and the band hung around for autographs after the show.
Has anyone else heard of a
On 8/29/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic. Here are afew
shots of list members.
Cesar and Doug at breakfast. Notice any similarities?http://
very nice, Godfrey.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On my walk this morning, I came across a tree...
or was it that a branch crossed me?
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/35p.htm
Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.
enjoy
Godfrey
Hi Gang.
Sorry for this OT but i must have deleted the original post.
Some one over the past few months mentioned they bought a Canon iP6000D
printer. The price
has just
been lowered and i am in need now to replace the S800.
Just looking to see
This one time, at band camp, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be interested to know if others in Oz can get prices for this
lens, as I was under the impression it had been discontinued.
I contacted C R Kennedy's and they gave me a price of AU$3200.00 but
the lense is discontinued.
Cricket? Interesting? Now there's a novel idea.
John
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:54:43 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This could get me lynched, but, I want the Poms to win the Ashes. This
current Aussie side is too full of itself and needs humbling.
Although, Shane Warne is
indeed very nice !
Michael
On 8/29/05, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
very nice, Godfrey.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On my walk this morning, I came across a tree...
or was it that a branch crossed me?
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/35p.htm
Comments, critique,
If that's all, fair enough, though I'm not sure why they would want a V8.
They already have the world's best V6, and I'm not a fan of pure muscle
cars.
John
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:00:41 +0100, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I mean it is designed larger (hence more roomy) than the
Hi All
I have a dilema for the last couple of months about building a web
site. especially after i've seen all the neat pages you have here. I
do have a web gallery of mine, but it's kinda huge... monster... i use
the Gallery PHP application to run it and it has more then 950
photos already... i
$400 cheaper than my camera store quoted. At $3200 I'd be so tempted.
Dave
On 8/29/05, Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one time, at band camp, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be interested to know if others in Oz can get prices for this
lens, as I was under the
Alfa general manager said that many Americans want a V8 engine, hence they
must offer it if they want to get good success on the US market. However,
native Alfa engines will be offered as well.
Dario
- Original Message -
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Larry Hodgson wrote:
Hi gang:
After looking at the Canon EOS 5D at $3,300 U.S, I'm probably going to
switch to that camera. With Canon's resources and it's ability to make it's
own sensors,
Some people will automatically assume that the company with most
resources will always make the best
- Original Message -
From: David Mann Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game
On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:16 AM, William Robb wrote:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html
I like the
Talking to me? Noo, can't be.
This Norwegian ain't mad. I'm utterly crazy ;-)
Sorry, Tim, I was speaking of mister Jostein Oksne.
--
Boris
:-)
Found it.
Have I ever told you I love you Boris? ;-)
Don't worry, kidding, but thanks.
No you've done that ;-).
Now I'm going to do some BW conversions with the Channel mixer.
It can be fun. Be sure that your monitor is properly profiled. And
naturally good luck.
By the way, do show
Ditto.
indeed very nice !
Michael
On 8/29/05, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
very nice, Godfrey.
So, Godfrey, you used FA 50/1.7. How does it compare with 28-105 that
you usually use. After I tried mine, I never looked back at any zoom
that had 50 mm in its range...
--
Boris
This one time, at band camp, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$400 cheaper than my camera store quoted. At $3200 I'd be so tempted.
If they were still available I would own one :(
Kind regards
Kevin
--
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a
This one time, at band camp, Michael Spivak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you suggest any ready
suggestions ? something that already exists as an application but need
only small configuration to have it up and running ? or you are using
your own HTML pages ?
I store all my images in a database
Hi everybody,
As I mentioned in my last message, I left home to the Aeolian
Islands on the 13th. I'm not the kind of guy who believes much
in luck, but that number's fame should have a bit of meaning
after all...
I had five bodies with me, *ist D, LX, Fuji GS645, Yashica T5
and Ricoh GR1.
The
DOF switch, works as a meter switch on all previous spotmatics.
Jon M wrote:
What meter switch are you referring to?
--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You didn't by chance have the meter switch in the
'up' position when
you used it the second time? On my Spot F, the
meter
John Celio wrote:
If there is ever a time to switch, I don't think now is it.
MARK!
I've actually been thinking of going with Gallery, possibly within a
PostNuke framework. Are you not satisfied with Gallery? I thought it was
well thought of. Are you trending toward a javascript or flash front-end
application?
I don't have any first-hand experience with slide show
Gallery is just great
but i don't really like it's organization... but may be it's me and
not the Gallery...
On 8/29/05, John Likes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've actually been thinking of going with Gallery, possibly within a
PostNuke framework. Are you not satisfied with Gallery? I thought
Cotty wrote:
On 29/8/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
Galia is running and eating some spaghetti...
...a combination that could produce more than a little tummy upset.
Little kids are very tough.
Thanks for the compliments!
On Aug 29, 2005, at 7:03 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
So, Godfrey, you used FA 50/1.7. How does it compare with 28-105 that
you usually use. After I tried mine, I never looked back at any zoom
that had 50 mm in its range...
It's an F50/1.7 which I bought as 'new old
I use the mac.com webserver to present my photo galleries at present,
which is part of the .Mac service and integrates very tightly with
the Mac OS X Finder and file system. Makes things easy.
With that, I can use Apple's automated Homepage web page assembling
software, which I use
For higher end cars and SUVs, a V8 engine is a big plus in US auto
marketing. It has little to do with actual performance needs
(although for some vehicles, added torque and smoothness of a larger
displacement V8 helps) but the US auto market has a long history of
favoring the V8 engine
I must say I can't see the point of buying a foreign car when it's been
modified to be like the domestic variety. Might as well just buy a
Chevy. That way blandness lies, like Tex-Mex food.
John
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:16:55 +0100, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alfa general
Probably Larry doesn't know Cotty's secret to mix the best lenses (Pentax)
with that kind of potographic
gear namely c...
Got the keyboard blocked:))
Manuel
-Mensagem original-
De: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: domingo, 28 de Agosto de 2005 22:31
Para:
Gianfranco,
It is too much bad luck to just one man.
Fátima is another place you van go.
But if you live in Italy...:)
I hope that's the first time and the last such things happend to you.
Manuel
-Mensagem original-
De: Gianfranco Irlanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada:
Hello Godfrey,
I really like the branch running diagnally across the frame with the
pair of leaves. Very nice composition. However, the OOF area top
right is very distracting to me and keeps drawing my eye away.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Sunday, August 28, 2005, 11:10:17 PM, you wrote:
GD On
This situation occured at Tønder Festival 2005, last weekend:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/38253601/
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Got my brain crossed - I meant top left...duh!
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Monday, August 29, 2005, 8:23:13 AM, you wrote:
BD Hello Godfrey,
BD I really like the branch running diagnally across the frame with the
BD pair of leaves. Very nice composition. However, the OOF area top
BD right is
I like the situation of the two, and the available light. I don't
care for the boy having his finger in his mouth - it weakens the
photo. Also, the strong lighting/blowout on top left is a bit much -
probably not much you could do there without losing the moment.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
I really like your site Kevin. It stands out from all the standard php
script solutions, without being flashy.
(I have a one member club: Web Designers Against Flash) I have done a bit
of basic HTML design myself at my site Ethnobase.org, now I'm redesigning in
PHP/MySQL. (It is down while
What his Moreau like matings to produce weird and unnatural hybrids?
Manuel Magalhães wrote:
Probably Larry doesn't know Cotty's secret to mix the best lenses (Pentax)
with that kind of potographic
gear namely c...
Got the keyboard blocked:))
Manuel
-Mensagem original-
De: J.
Nice catch Jens.
I did a tour trough your photos
and you have very good sense of composing. It helped me a lot.
Thanks for sharing
Manuel
-Mensagem original-
De: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: segunda-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2005 16:28
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
On 8/29/05, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like your site Kevin.
You mean Michael ?
Liking your design, I wonder, have you made this yourself? And, care to
share some of the scripting,
http://gallery.sourceforge.net
Or i'm completely crazy and you weren't talking to me...
;-)
well... i'm completely crazy... don't pay attention :)
Ignore my post.
Michael
On 8/29/05, Michael Spivak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/29/05, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like your site Kevin.
You mean Michael ?
Liking your design, I wonder, have you made this yourself?
Thanks, your much too kind!
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Manuel Magalhães [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 29. august 2005 17:57
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: PESO: Yong Fortune Teller
Nice catch Jens.
I did a
Good point. Ihad to shoot this - in spite of the very large contrast, thus
the burned out highlights.
I like the finger - it show the boys exitement about what the results may
be.
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton
Second crop:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/38268815/
Is this better?
Jens
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 29. august 2005 17:50
Til: Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: PESO: Yong Fortune Teller
I
that's the scariest bunch of photos I've ever seen, with the exception
of the one of Cesar and Paige, and the one of Paige's hands.
Yeah, no pressure, being handed Joe DiMaggio's camera and told that Joe
wants some good shots of him speaking. I should drop him an email and do
some pre-emptive
Building the Alfa 159 as it is is not only due to the plan for entering the
US market. The main task for the 159 is to fight successfully against German
cars in Europe, which the 156 has done quite well in Germany :-)
However, the 156 was introduced in 1997 and since then the German cars in
its
Can't ignore crazy people, that just makes them worse ;-)
You were right, you were wrong ;-)
I was addressing Kevin, but reing wrong post. Thats because I'm utterly
crazy.
No wonder you were confused. Sorry about that.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power
John Forbes wrote:
I must say I can't see the point of buying a foreign car when it's
been modified to be like the domestic variety. Might as well just
buy a Chevy. That way blandness lies, like Tex-Mex food.
Chevy!!
Couldn't you at least have said Saturn?
On 29/8/05, E.R.N. Reed, discombobulated, unleashed:
John Celio wrote:
If there is ever a time to switch, I don't think now is it.
MARK!
Good catch Eleanour ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
Oh! That switch!
Nope, meter doesn't work regardless of DOF switch
position. I just find it odd that it'd work one day
(after being stored for a while, apparently), then not
the next.
I'd really like to get this thing working again.
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DOF switch,
Saturns aint what they used to be.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
I must say I can't see the point of buying a foreign car when it's
been modified to be like the domestic variety. Might as well just
buy a Chevy. That way blandness lies, like Tex-Mex food.
Chevy!!
Couldn't you
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
For higher end cars and SUVs, a V8 engine is a big plus in US auto
marketing. It has little to do with actual performance needs (although
for some vehicles, added torque and smoothness of a larger displacement
V8 helps) but the US auto market has a long history of
Except for the SUV and the Minivan, Saturns are just rebadged Opel's
anyways.
-Adam
P. J. Alling wrote:
Saturns aint what they used to be.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
I must say I can't see the point of buying a foreign car when it's
been modified to be like the domestic
On this one, the roles are reversed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/38279642/
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 29. august 2005 18:14
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: PESO:
There are significant differences but they're still not in house
designs, and they're built in any available GM plant. With typical GM
quality, well below what it used to be. The old Saturn is gone and the
product reflects that. Heck you can even negotiate prices with some of
their dealers
I like it more than the very first one.
Manuel
-Mensagem original-
De: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada: segunda-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2005 17:54
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: RE: PESO: Yong Fortune Teller
On this one, the roles are reversed:
Of course every maker who sold cars in the US had to comply with emission
standards. Those with the best powerplant engineering, Honda for example, were
able to meet the standards without crippling their engines. I was an automotive
journalist in the early eighties and recall attending an event
P. J. Alling wrote:
Saturns aint what they used to be.
Could be...
I have a 1999 S-series wagon, whose 1.9 liter 100 H.P. 16-valve DOHC
engine is so flexible, passengers frequently ask me what size it is and
comment on it's ability to accelerate into and cope with high speed
freeway
On Aug 29, 2005, at 9:50 AM, keithw wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
For higher end cars and SUVs, a V8 engine is a big plus in US
auto marketing. It has little to do with actual performance
needs (although for some vehicles, added torque and smoothness of
a larger displacement V8
Saturn still operates a dedicated plant in Tennessee. Unfortunately, many other
GM brands have overleaped Saturn in product quality. I believe Cadillac was
number two to Toyota in the JD Power CSI from among all cars sold in the US.
Paul
There are significant differences but they're still not
Adam Maas wrote:
Except for the SUV and the Minivan, Saturns are just rebadged Opel's
anyways.
-Adam
I won't argue with you, but where did you hear that?
Details please...
I actually LIKE Opels, so no problem here...
keith whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course every maker who sold cars in the US had to comply with
emission standards. Those with the best powerplant engineering, Honda
for example, were able to meet the standards without crippling their
engines. I was an automotive journalist in the early eighties and
P. J. Alling wrote:
but if they have
gone the way of all good things in this country - bowing to Federal
regs, I may just have to think of some other marque!
No one has ever sold a car in the United States that didn't bow to Federal
regs, unless perhaps you count one-offs built in
That's a pain.
Welcome back, I hope you get it all sorted out swiftly without
spending too much money and aggravation.
Godfrey
On Aug 29, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
Hi everybody,
As I mentioned in my last message, I left home to the Aeolian
Islands on the 13th. I'm not
[sob story]
bad luck indeed. Perhaps your LX has the sticky mirror problem. The GR1
doesn't surprise me. They're great little cameras, but everyone I know who
has one has had problems with them.
Maybe a trip to Lourdes is in order...
Put your faith in science!
--
Cheers,
Bob
Then I assume you are opposed to emission standards? Except for third-world
countries, standards are basically universal today. The US initiated emission
control but it soon became a fact of life for all automakers. Today's engines
are more powerful and more efficient than any pre-control
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
Hi everybody,
[sad tales of mechanical gear failing... snipped.]
When I came back home I found both my new computers not
working. My brother said he had taken the newer one to the shop
for a check and there it worked, or so I'm told. Now it is going
there againg...
The spring hill plant used to have considerable autonomy. The used
their own methods of mass production, and had a separate contract
different in most respects with the UAW. Now they operate within the GM
umbrella and it shows.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saturn still operates a dedicated
A simple well told story.
(A bit dark at my monitor, but it aren't well calibrated, so most likely
it's nothing to worry about)
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Hey, I didn't say that.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
but if they have
gone the way of all good things in this country - bowing to Federal
regs, I may just have to think of some other marque!
No one has ever sold a car in the United States that didn't bow to
Problem with US emissions controls isn't so much that they mandated
efficiency and emissions levels. They also mandated the technical
solutions. This of course kept any car that could meet standards
without those mandated solution off the roads.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I assume you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I assume you are opposed to emission standards? Except for
third-world countries, standards are basically universal today. The
US initiated emission control but it soon became a fact of life for
all automakers. Today's engines are more powerful and more efficient
Bob W wrote:
[sob story]
bad luck indeed. Perhaps your LX has the sticky mirror problem. The GR1
doesn't surprise me. They're great little cameras, but everyone I know who
has one has had problems with them.
Maybe a trip to Lourdes is in order...
Put your faith in science!
Well
Sorry Peter. Incorrect attribution. My mistake.
Paul
Hey, I didn't say that.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
but if they have
gone the way of all good things in this country - bowing to Federal
regs, I may just have to think of some other marque!
Car magazines mostly.
The Sky is an Opel Roadster, the L series is based off the same Opel
(Vectra IIRC) that also became the Cadillac Catera at a higher trim
level and the current ION is based on an Opel (As are the equivalent
Pontiac Chevy cars. It's an Astra essentially, but in Sedan
P. J. Alling wrote:
The spring hill plant used to have considerable autonomy. The used
their own methods of mass production, and had a separate contract
different in most respects with the UAW.
Yes, I'm aware of those differences.
Now they operate within the GM umbrella and it shows.
WE have a saying here:
It is bad luck being driven over by thirteen trucks. ;-)
This sounds even worse. Sorry to hear about your bad fortune.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other
Tell me about it, I'm driving a 13 year old SC2 which still handles
better than the latest Ion that I test drove recently.
keithw wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
The spring hill plant used to have considerable autonomy. The used
their own methods of mass production, and had a separate contract
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