Re: Official camera of summer? + GESO

2006-08-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks, Bob. I have started to come around to digital. Plus the older I get the more I look for what's easiest. -b --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back Brendan. I still love my film cameras, but digital is so easy. Watch some of the photos that appear on the list,

Re: Official camera of summer? + GESO

2006-08-12 Thread David Savage
On 8/12/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have started to come around to digital. Plus the older I get the more I look for what's easiest. Mark! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
It's called the Yo, Blair! effect... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: 12 August 2006 02:11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother? I believe that I have just been called

RE: Photojournalist equipment choice

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 12 August 2006 01:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photojournalist equipment choice William Robb wrote: They use the stuff for more than shooting folk singers.

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph Tainter wrote: I'm less afraid of being blown to smithereens over the North Atlantic than I am frustrated to exasperation with ineffective and disruptive counter-measures. Me too. I suspect that much of the overreaction is CYA. No official wants to be the one who did too little. No

East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
Hi, my older brother, his younger son and I cycled across England the length of Hadrian's Wall this week. We did a total of about 140 miles (225 km) in 3 days. Here are 3 landscapes from the trip: This is a view from the western end across the Solway Firth to Scotlandshire:

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe that I have just been called bro by an Englishman. Actually I meant to write 'brother' but couldn't be arsed - that's the difference ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob, I like the last one, but the first two are kind of empty. Regards, Bob S. On 8/12/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my older brother, his younger son and I cycled across England the length of Hadrian's Wall this week. We did a total of about 140 miles (225 km) in 3 days. Here are

RE: East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
Hi Bob, thanks. I think the world is divided into people who like bleak, empty landscapes and those who like busy, full landscapes! I like them bleak. I particularly like the photo of South Shields. Although in truth South Shields is nothing like that. -- Cheers, Bob -Original

Re: Greetings from Colorado, or Eatyerheartout, Stenquist

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot. I saw this car somewhere before. I think GM borrowed it for a display a few years back. Great piece of automotive history. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi kids, Been galumphing around Colorado, and wandered through the Gateway

(discombobulated) What The F ORG: Freedom Fest Tallinn

2006-08-12 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060812152304 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

PESO: Lizard Head Pass

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Am pleased to say that a Panalure print of this scene won first place in the BW Nature category in an '04 photo exhibit and contest sponsored by the Sacramento Fine Arts Center. Lizard Head Pass is between Ouray and the Dallas Divide area in CO. IOW, hey, look at me! Comments always welcome.

Re: Perhaps OT: Recommended PS for under $200?

2006-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Fuji F30 I ordered just arrived. ... Make sure to post some high-ISO samples! Haven't any time yet for more than just casual snapping about as I learn the controls and features, but I got a shot of my foot at ISO

Old Town: Facescapes

2006-08-12 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060805182744 Sometimes interesting faces seen. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that they've stopped these buggers. But are you really so ready to surrender liberty in the name of safety? That's a scary thought. Godfrey On Aug 11, 2006, at 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any case, it worked. I will be among the first to complain

Re: AdobeRGB vs. sRGB

2006-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: AdobeRGB vs. sRGB On 12/08/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Noritsu people that I talked to about it insisted that photo paper fell within the sRGB gamut, and so there was no reason to go to a bigger

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Powell Hargrave
I suspect that much of the overreaction is CYA. No official wants to be the one who did too little. No politician wants to be vulnerable to a charge of soft on terrorism. Joe That's one way to look at it. Another is the terror promoted by politicians and the media make us sheep easier to

Re: East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
Really like the first one - there is such a 'mood' portrayed. Second one does little for me. Third is very nice, but could use a crop of some of the sky - just too much of it - the countryside is more interesting - just take the sky down to the main cloud layer. Thanks for sharing. -- Best

Re: PESO: Lizard Head Pass

2006-08-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice! Again, would love to see this one just a bit bigger, if possible. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, August 12, 2006, 6:58:02 AM, you wrote: JD Am pleased to say that a Panalure print of this scene won first place JD in the BW Nature category in an '04 photo exhibit and contest JD

Re: (discombobulated) What The F ORG: Freedom Fest Tallinn

2006-08-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Roman, I like the first two most. The second is my favorite. You captured a great expression on her face like she was really communicating with the audience. -- Bruce Saturday, August 12, 2006, 6:54:50 AM, you wrote: R http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060812152304 -- PDML

Re: PESO: Water lily IV

2006-08-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is a shot that I would like to see bigger. I'm suspecting that it is quite striking when viewed like that. It also seems to be a bit blown out in the flower - don't know if this is the result of the scan or as shot. Anyways, I like it with those two caveats. -- Bruce Friday, August 11,

Re: PESO: Ali's Porch and Screen

2006-08-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
For some reason, these shots did not really come across for me. Maybe I don't appreciate BW enough or maybe something is missing in the rendering here vs. the original. -- Bruce Friday, August 11, 2006, 1:13:45 PM, you wrote: JD This is by way of reminiscing about Kodak Tech Pan. Shot at 25

Re: [Rant] - Collecting cameras as an investment

2006-08-12 Thread graywolf
Well, I got the same email. Glanced at his website, and marked the email as junk. Just another get rich quick scammer. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Just

Re: AdobeRGB vs. sRGB

2006-08-12 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Maybe so, I don't know if the limit is relative to the paper or the way that the machine images to the paper. But in any case other labs printing to photo paper do on occasion provide colour profiles (which could potentially describe a colour gamut more limited than sRGB) and as you know

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread graywolf
Glad to know you are an expert on US firearms laws. BTW if you get caught with a pistol in Massachusetts (non resident) it is an automatic 10 year prison term. Reciprocal CCW permits are fine in the states agreeing to them, but you can find yourself in a world of trouble passing through

Re: AdobeRGB vs. sRGB

2006-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: AdobeRGB vs. sRGB I would like to point out that even if the end result is something that will fit within the sRGB gamut, there are circumstances under which a wider gamut throughout the processing would be beneficial.

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
I have yet to feel that I have sacrificed anything substantial, yet the monitoring of international phone calls and the activities of some aliens contiues. Most of us will never notice. I'm okay with that. I don't think there is any other way to preven another 9/11. -- Original

Re: PESO: Me and My Mom

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:51:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm in Chicago. I was shooting on the street, and these two ladies asked me to take their picture. That's never happened to me in Michigan. Fun stuff: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4795444 Paul

Re: PESO: Water lily IV

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/11/2006 6:07:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Had a couple of these lily shots ready to put up recently, but this got left back. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=165 Comments welcome. === Very pretty. Striking leaves. I

Re: PESO: Lizard Head Pass

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/12/2006 7:06:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am pleased to say that a Panalure print of this scene won first place in the BW Nature category in an '04 photo exhibit and contest sponsored by the Sacramento Fine Arts Center. Lizard Head Pass is between

Re: Old Town: Facescapes

2006-08-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
Roman, VERY nice portrait. -Brendan MacRae --- Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060805182744 Sometimes interesting faces seen. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K110D - Why bother?

2006-08-12 Thread Tom C
On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:22, Tom C wrote: Until you do that, please don't presume to stagger around the internet spouting gibberish. That's Tom C's job. (Just joking, Tom) I've been forgetting to look in my mailbox for my check. Thanks for the reminder. :-) Not that you'd

RE: Greetings from Colorado, or Eatyerheartout, Stenquist

2006-08-12 Thread Tom C
Nice shot! Tom C. Hi kids, Been galumphing around Colorado, and wandered through the Gateway Auto History Museum today. This one is for Paul... it's a 1954 Olds F88 prototype, only one surviving, designed by Harley Earl. http://www.alphoto.com/images/gtwy021.jpg rare tech info: *istD,

Re: East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
Nice stuff, Bob. Makes me want to take the mountain bike out of the garage and get back onto the road. I wonder if the skies would've been helped with a grad ND or polarizer. I like the framing in the beach shot especially. The composition is great the way you've just shown a tiny slice of ocean

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
In recent years, before the 'no lock' requirement by TSA, if they wanted to look into a locked bag, believe me they had a means to open it, un beknownst to the traveler. In 2004, I shipped, via checked luggage, a Gitzo 1548 tripod with my clothes in a locked duffle bag after I had inserted the

RE: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2006 18:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography I have yet to feel that I have sacrificed anything substantial, yet the

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
A good reason to get a .22 target pistol or some such Seems to me that would be a real good way to be delayed @ the airport. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:14 AM Subject:

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Saturday 12 August 2006 21:03, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2006 18:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography I have yet to feel that I

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:24:26 +0100, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 12 August 2006 21:03, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2006 18:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO: Water lily IV

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bruce. I view this as your standard, ordinary, pretty shot the impact of which increases with size. A scene that neither offends nor excites almost no one. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a shot that I would like to see bigger. I'm suspecting that it is quite

Re: PESO: Lizard Head Pass

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Marnie! Glad you weren't one of the judges. ;-)) I shot it in color, but when saw it in bw, I liked it better. I have what I consider a better shot which taken with a Mamiya 6 w/50mm lens on Provia 100F. May put it up someday. Actually the right side has always bothered me some in that the

Re: PESO: Ali's Porch and Screen

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
They evoke a melancholy feeling that, for me, is enhanced by bw. It's the blossoms at the base of the unused porch steps and other ravages of time that do it for me. The detail in the Tech Pan negs is something to behold. Thanks for remarks. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: PESO: Lizard Head Pass

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
I can do that. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=168 Thanks for comments. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice! Again, would love to see this one just a bit bigger, if possible. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, August 12, 2006, 6:58:02 AM, you

Re: Perhaps OT: Recommended PS for under $200?

2006-08-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
Charles, If you or anyone else is interested, I have a brand new, never taken out of the box - Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ1 5mp, image stabilized P+S which I recently won in a local photo contest. Includes camera, battery pack charger, AV USB cables, software CD-Rom,lens cap,strap operating

RE: East, West and the moral high ground

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
Thanks, Brendan. That's also what I like about the beach shot. It is a very abstract, minimalist style. As for getting the bike out - yes, I recommend it. We all had a great time, although I think my nephew (15) was a little bored at times by the company. Of course, using the bike means you can

Re: PESO: Water lily IV

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
It is the result of the scan. Done on my cheapy flat bed. When I put it up I fiddled a bit with the burn tool, but it wasn't happening, so gave it up. Thanks, again for comments. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a shot that I would like to see bigger. I'm suspecting

Re: PESO: Water lily IV

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Marnie, both you and Bruce are right that the blossom is somewhat blown out. When I put it up I touched it slightly with the burn tool, but didn't like the total of what was happening, so backed off. Being a MF positive, the scan was done on my cheapy flat bed. I just checked the film and find the

Re: Greetings from Colorado, or Eatyerheartout, Stenquist

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug, Your shot rekindles old desires. The family sedan I learned to drive on was a 1954 Olds 98. I remember seeing pictures of the your car in the paper, probably for the 1954 autoshow in the Chicago Tribune. The grill and tail-lights showed up on the 1956 Oldsmobiles, but never the two seat

PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Wife and I took a Sierra foot hill drive earlier this AM and found a road (Frenchtown) we hadn't taken before. Came across this barn framed by a beautiful Oak and set off by a patch of California Gold dry grass. Had a 1-hour processing and CD done at Walgreen's. Scan only able as web upload.

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread keith_w
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that they've stopped these buggers. But are you really so ready to surrender liberty in the name of safety? That's a scary thought. Godfrey Not really ~ it's a personal decision, decided on a case-by-case, geographically limited

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob, I don't know what they did in Northern Ireland, but I can't let what you said go unchallenged. Do you believe that the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists are just kidding when they propose turning society's clock back to the middle ages and the rule of the clergy? Did you only look at the

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography Removing the conditions that lead to terrorism is another way. That is the lesson learned from Northern Ireland and it will likely apply in this situation too. I think that is the only way Bob.

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack, Film! Wow! Nice setting, but I want to get the oak's branch out of the barn's roof peak and I have some trouble visually separating the right side of the tree trunk from the background. Obviously, you have more framings of this setting? Regards, Bob S. On 8/12/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography When you can tell me with a straight face that you will be willing to live under the rule of the fundamentalist clergy of Osama's choice (or even Episcopalian for that matter), I'll believe you.

RE: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
When you can tell me with a straight face that you will be willing to live under the rule of the fundamentalist clergy of Osama's choice (or even Episcopalian for that matter), I'll believe you. ? I never said or implied anything of the sort. The conditions that lead to this terrorism

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography When you can tell me with a straight face that you will be willing to live under the rule of the fundamentalist clergy of Osama's choice (or even Episcopalian for that

RE: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob W
They regularly complain about the Reconquista, the results of the Battle of Lepanto and the lifting of the Siege of Vienna by Jan Sobieski (the latter two occurances broke the power of the Ottoman Empire). They're major beef with the west is the idea that any land that has ever been

RE: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler wanted to kill the jews? Radical Islam has a fundamental problem with everyone else in the world. That makes

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 4:50 PM -0500 8/12/06, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bob, I don't know what they did in Northern Ireland, but I can't let what you said go unchallenged. As I understand it the common people themselves have grown tired of the terrorism - both from the IRA and the UDF and their ilk - and have stopped

PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
Another pic from my weekend in Chicago. Great place to shoot. New buildings going up everywhere. This one is about three blocks north of the river and two blocks east of Michigan Avenue. I processed this on my laptop, so I'm not sure about overall brightness. May have to reprocess a bit when I

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
No, I don't, surprisingly! This is a substantial crop, but the perspective is the same on all six frames. A tendency with a tripod. Soon as I saw the big center limb squarely in front of the roof peak, I defiled myself for not being more aware of the total composition. You don't win anything, but

Re: PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
IMHO, it's certainly not too light. Beautiful upload. Reminds me of the quip that California's state bird is the crane. Appears to apply to Chicago as well. Enjoyed the look. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pic from my weekend in Chicago. Great place to shoot. New buildings going up

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Brian Walters
Very photogenic structure and nicely captured. Unlike Bob, I quite like the framing including the branch intruding on the view of the roof - it gives a feeling of the shed being isolated in the middle of the forest (of course, it may not be) Perhaps a repeat in late afternoon light would

Re: PESO: Ali's Porch and Screen

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/11/2006 1:20:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is by way of reminiscing about Kodak Tech Pan. Shot at 25 ISO. Lx w/M-50mm f/1.4. Abandoned house about 10 miles our of town on the hard road. Larger file affords amazing detail. Miss the film. Jack

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
Lovely barn, lovely tree. Sort of agree with Bob about branch right at peak of roof. But what bothers me more is the lighting, bright, bright. Might tone down contrast in PS or redo in later afternoon light. Definitely worth a revisit, good subject matter, and older barns in California are

Re: PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/12/2006 4:14:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another pic from my weekend in Chicago. Great place to shoot. New buildings going up everywhere. This one is about three blocks north of the river and two blocks east of Michigan Avenue. I processed this on

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Adam wrote: They regularly complain about the Reconquista, the results of the Battle of Lepanto and the lifting of the Siege of Vienna by Jan Sobieski (the latter two occurrences broke the power of the Ottoman Empire). They're major beef with the west is the idea that any land that has ever been

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian, The sun hitting the front of the barn, if not too mottled, might be worth trying. Is a very wooded area, but with meadows and cleared areas throughout. Am grateful for your comments. Jack --- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very photogenic structure and nicely captured.

Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn

2006-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
In addition to the grad ND used on the sky, I severely darkened the foreground dead grass and cropped it by about half. I didn't like it's 'in your face' glare at the time. Dodged the barn front a bit. As I look at the image, a fix eludes me. Very often when this happens, I ask myself why I didn't

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler wanted to kill the jews? Radical Islam has a

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler wanted to kill the jews? Radical

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 9:11 PM -0400 8/12/06, Bob Shell wrote: On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler wanted

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another Blow Against Photography Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Never has. Is that why Hitler

Re: PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Jack. Glad to hear it looks okay on your monitor. With my laptop, brightness varies in respect to the screen angle. I'm getting used to working with it, but I'm still a bit uncertain. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO,

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread pnstenquist
Another bit of liberal nonsense :-) -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't there some sort of rule that when Hitler gets mentioned, the arguement is over, the battle lost? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread David Mann
On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, William Robb wrote: Isn't there some sort of rule that when Hitler gets mentioned, the arguement is over, the battle lost? Godwin's Law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-12 Thread John Francis
Take it somewhere else, folks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Lens Blur Filter - Photoshop

2006-08-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Because of the greater DOF from the APS-C sized sensor, and the sometimes slower lenses available for digital cameras, this filter may come in handy. Tina Manley sent me the link after I showed her some of what the filter could do, and I'm very pleasantly surprised at how much more it can do than