Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
They're not built on the same lines, but the same methodology applies. Many former Toyota quality-control specialists now work for the big three. And JD Power measures more than initial quality. Mercury finished second in the most recent JD Power survey of three- year dependability -- ahead

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 09:12:10PM -0400, graywolf wrote: > I keep trying to ignore this thread, but but happened to read this short > post before deleting it. If the thing had a manufacturing cost of $35 it > would cost about $350 retail. Since they put them in a lot of cameras > that cost a lo

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread John Francis
Not entirely true. Although all the underpinnings are the same, the Saturn Sky roadster has a very different appearance from its Pontiac sibling. I believe there are also differences in just which engine, transmission and option packages are available. On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 07:48:15PM -0400

Re: The Old Friends

2006-10-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. Another interesting irony is the presence of satellite television antennas. The times they are a changing. Paul On Oct 22, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote: > This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I > live. > http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg > > It

AW: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread Markus Maurer
I got one of the lovely 1.8 SMC Takumar 85mm with the Spotmatic F and a 35mm 3.5 wide lens and the standard 1.4 50mm lens as a bundle for less than 300 dollars in very good condition last year. greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auft

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
When I'm shooting with a K lens on my *ist D, my thumb is on the green button. Without really thinking about it, I just keep whacking it as I work. So the shutter speed adjusts continuously as I change the frame or if the light changes. It's really quite simple. Paul On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:45

GESO: USA tour 2004 now online

2006-10-22 Thread Jan van Wijk
>From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan >upper and lower peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago. A selection of the many images made with the *istD during those three weeks. http://www.df

Re: The Old Friends

2006-10-22 Thread keith_w
Bob W wrote: > This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I > live. > http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg > > It amuses me that a publican has a place called Old Friends next to an > Indian takeaway, serves Australian lager, has live reggae, and says > "England love i

Re: The Old Friends

2006-10-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Hey - funs shot, Bob Needless (I hope) to say if I'd been there I would have taken that shot too :) ann Bob W wrote: > This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I > live. > http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg > > It amuses me that a publican has a place called Old

OT: Aires 35

2006-10-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Does anyone here have any knowledge about Aires cameras, please? Especially the ramgefinders! Funny thing: prices seem to vary A LOT. From 7 USD to 250 USD. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. C

RE: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Well jco, you'll probably never regret buying a 77mm Limited. Great lens, very pretty and small - a joy to use too. Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Pau

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Toine
Yes, a firmware hack would be nice. Toine On 10/22/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Toine wrote: > > > >> You probably also want matrix metering with M lenses? > > > > Yes, it actually is possible, or at least it was with the film bodi

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Adam Maas
The differences are entirely sheetmetal. Both are derivations of the Opel GT, although they don't necessarily get all the options the Opel does. In fact the Sky is nothing more than the Opel GT with Saturn badges and a few mods to pass US/Canada crash testing, it's identical otherwise. The Vaux

AW: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-22 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Joe finally a very fun shot, thanks for that. greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Joseph Tainter Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2006 01:55 An: pdml@pdml.net Betreff: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo My wife wanted to feed

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Adam Maas
Note, calling the Big 3 domestics is problematic. All the major makers from Europe, Japan and North America build cars in the US and Canada. All of them do serious amounts of design work offshore (GM's small cars are all Opels, Ford Europe does the same for Ford, and much of Chrysler's engineer

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread P. J. Alling
So did Minolta on the SRT cameras among others but the mirror movements are quite complex by comparison. William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" >Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > > > >>Or maybe they will go 2mm longer, who knows? After all, they have to

Re: matrix metering (was: the idiotic rant thread)

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > ...While it might have been nice to know how to make the lenses > provide multi > segment metering, I really didn't care very much to waste time > looking for > a solution. Others here are so much better at fiddling around with > such > th

Re: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread Jens Bladt
Yes, that's very expensive. Perhaps it was just missing in someone's collection or outfit. You know, money is just money. I nice lens is perhaps more useful than a piece of paper in a wallet :-) Afterall, a new FA* 1.4 85mm a appr. the same cost is no longer available ... In Denmark this one was pr

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread P. J. Alling
But it was an entirely mechanical system. No electronics in the lens at all. William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "J. C. O'Connell" >Subject: RE: The JCO survey > > > > >>You cant answer simple questions? >>Don't you have the mental capacity >>To do so or what? >> >>

Re: Way OT: How I spent my summer

2006-10-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Paul - if you don't get a publisher, you can go the LULU route. but all my fingers and toes are crossed for you (thats why my typing is so bad :) :) ann Paul Stenquist wrote: > Yes, it's very difficult to get published. Approximately one out of > fifty is published, and only about 10% of those

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/22/2006 9:37:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie. I did not write the quoted part, Bob did. Blame him, not me ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) === Aha, but I didn't think it was you. However, I didn't think it was Bob either.

Re: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I think you could do a nice doctoral dissertation on e-bay madness. William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "J. C. O'Connell" >Subject: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens ! > > > > >>Look at this. >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290039855648 >> >>Two bidd

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Toine
Hmm I probably overlooked some posts regarding this modification. Toine On 10/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This modification does not work with the DSLR bodies, as has been > reported both here and elsewhere in previous discussion. > > Godfrey > > On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:17 A

The Old Friends

2006-10-22 Thread Bob W
This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I live. http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg It amuses me that a publican has a place called Old Friends next to an Indian takeaway, serves Australian lager, has live reggae, and says "England love it or leave". Or perhaps I'

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Essentially they do the same thing, I don't know if they use the same methods. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >The thought never crossed my mind. I just figured that, since the K/M >lenses didn't have the electrical contacts of the A series and later >lenses, the multi point metering couldn't be impleme

RE: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
Marnie. I did not write the quoted part, Bob did. Blame him, not me ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2006 18:02 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your first

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2

2006-10-22 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 07/10/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made this pic last year about this time. This morning I revisited the > photo and saw something more, different in it. So, here's the revised > edition. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/fallenleaf2.html A great photo. I really li

Re: Alien invaders?

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Bob W wrote: > Sens-A-Thumb? Do you mean the vignetting? That's the lens hood and a > wide-open lens. No no ... LOL! ... just a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... alien invaders ... etc. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread P. J. Alling
There are a lot of things that are Pentax's fault, but the customer not reading the manual isn't one of them. However most people don't read the manual until they're totally lost, and the D and Ds manuals are poorly enough written to compound the problem. Part of the dictum of sales is know y

Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think this is a deficiency with Camera Raw more than anything else. I do the same thing (using Photoshop CS2 + Camera Raw), although I find that usually exposure needs to be set at around +0.3-0.5 as a baseline for white point, using the DS body. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bill

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I said some ... You have no clue as to how quickly and effortlessly the "stop down" method works on the Pentax DSLR, nor how accurate it is. In fact, some of us who use the GB technique have found it to be faster than those clunky old film bodies that used AE. IAC, metering is not some mindless

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This modification does not work with the DSLR bodies, as has been reported both here and elsewhere in previous discussion. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Toine wrote: > Does this involve drilling holes in the lens mount and inserting epoxy > in the drilled hole for transmitting the lens

Re: PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/22/06, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regardless of the camera WB setting, the Adobe RAW converter shows the WB > "as shot", and a color temperature of 4800. I find that changing the white > balance to whatever the actual conditions were, and setting exposure to 0.00 > usually shows

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > > Or maybe they will go 2mm longer, who knows? After all, they have to > sell lenses (and the customers *must* care about the companies' > needs). Doubtful. If they stay with the small sensor size, it mak

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, that's not the case, typically the co-operation is at the design stage with the vehicles being assembled in seperate factories, although sharing parts (especially engines and trannies) is relatively common. There are a few cases of what you mention, like the Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Toine wrote: > >> You probably also want matrix metering with M lenses? > > Yes, it actually is possible, or at least it was with the film bodies, > with the modification Mark Roberts and others have made to their > lenses. But, as we have said

Re: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens ! > Look at this. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290039855648 > > Two bidders gone into hysteria. > I have never seen one sell for more than $400 > Before. No accounting for

RE: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Bob W
Well done. I see both you and Graywolf managed successfully to ignore this part of my email: > *this is not necessarily a direct result of any genetic differences, > but could derive from the greater social power of men historically. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL P

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > You are missing the point. Communication > Via any method is better than ZERO. > The new bodies are IGNORING lens communication > Of the K/M lenses. Just because its mechanical > Doesn't mean its of no value or m

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread graywolf
Historically, most men were allowed to work out of the house. That has little to do with innate ability. Besides real men do not take pictures, they play football, and join the army. -- Bob W wrote: > it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are > also men, and men are sup

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: The JCO survey > Ah, bullshit, the american and japanese cars are likely built on the > same assembly line nowadays. Even as far back as 1980 that was > possible, > now it is likely. Hey, Joe, is this a toyota or a chevy, which badge

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: The JCO survey > Look at the JD Power numbers. Toyota and Honda are leaders in quality, > but GM is close to the top these days as is Ford. All of the US > carmakers outperform the Europeans. It's not opinion. It's fact. JD Power

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > Dumb Dumb Dumb. > > The situation goes BOTH WAYS you twit. > The DSLR cameras cant take full advantage of the K/M > Lenses capabities either. Yes well, thats a given, it's what you have been whining like a baby

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "keith_w" Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > GM's shoddy workmanship and inattention to quality control as a way of > automotive life, has lost me as a customer for life. My history with GM: My parents bought a Corvair. Then they bought a 62 Impalla that h

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey >I don't think quick proper automatic exposure settings > Which is what has been disabled with K/M lenses > Is something "prehistoric". Your ignorance of how things work is showing again. K/M lens use is quick, an

RE: PESO - the aperture simulator has left the building

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm sceptical. I think it is still here. I believe the aperture simulator will haunt us for ever. Remember, the simulator is a, simulator. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- Office friendly picture .-) http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=

RE: PESO -- Almost Abandoned

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
The thing about the sky is important; it makes the picture left heavy. Else wise I do like the photo. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2006 03:57 To: pdml@pd

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > WRONG. The reasons given most commonly > Are cost and desire to sell new replacement > Lenes. The fact that the communication > Is mechanical is totally unrelated > And not the issue at all. It's a very > Simple

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > You keep making the same dumb contradictory > Argument over and over. You claim the > Old lenses are outdated due to the newer > Lenses automations and then go on > To say that the automation the old > Lenses h

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > Minolta had a full line of MC/MD > Lenses for 15 years after Maxxum > Introduction? P.S. and it's a big > P.S., Minolta essentially went out > Of business recently... So, you are saying that Pentax should risk g

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread graywolf
Ah, bullshit, the american and japanese cars are likely built on the same assembly line nowadays. Even as far back as 1980 that was possible, now it is likely. Hey, Joe, is this a toyota or a chevy, which badge do I put on it? -- J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Don't forget that JD powers numbers are

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > No they're not. Push the GB and the lens and camera communicate, the > aperture is recorded and exposure info is calculated, shutter speed is > adjusted. The camera and lens just communicate differently. Plus,

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > You cant answer simple questions? > Don't you have the mental capacity > To do so or what? I'm just seeing if you have the mental capacity to go and fine out something on your own. Apparently, you'd rather whin

Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > Listen mr thinks he knows it all, those rubber > Grips wear down and get slick while the huge > Protrusions in the metal rings we were talking > About don't. anybody who slips with those > Protude

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > > No, the SLR lenses are a mess of compatibility still (one, two and > three > cam units as well as the latest ROM units that feature electronic > lens/body communication). This is the M lenses, that need a 6bit >

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > Your argument is not supported by the KM DSLR > Users. They claim that BG is no big deal to use > And they arent claiming the the KM lenses themselves > Are outdated like YOU are. It's nice that I can use my out

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/22/2006 8:43:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want t

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: The JCO survey > They are offering at least one thing, > No new cameras that force you to buy > Lenses again you already have because > They just killed the features in your's. You are one whiney pig headed fuck aren't you. No o

$890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Look at this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290039855648 Two bidders gone into hysteria. I have never seen one sell for more than $400 Before. jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread graywolf
Sure, a Nikon in the 70's was as much a man's necklace as a photo tool. Jens Bladt wrote: > It is interesting. > In my experience - to women, size matters most. The smaller the better. I > have known men to have a similar approach to buying a camera too. > I never really cared much about the size

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Don't forget that JD powers numbers are only for initial Quality which is essentially how well the car is assembled And inspected before it leaves the factory. It has almost Nothing to do with build quality and long term reliablity. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread graywolf
Well, my first camera was given to me by a elderly lady, Mrs. Looney, no less. My second was handed down to me by my Mom as I went off into the Air Force, because she wanted me to send her photos probably. Now, my dad, he did a great job of teaching me how to think poor, only I did not get the

PSE 5.0 and Adobe RAW

2006-10-22 Thread Bill Owens
Regardless of the camera WB setting, the Adobe RAW converter shows the WB "as shot", and a color temperature of 4800. I find that changing the white balance to whatever the actual conditions were, and setting exposure to 0.00 usually shows the image as I remember it being. Bill -- PDML Pentax-

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
We are not talking about bottom line film Bodies but most DID show over/under exposure. Secondly the stop down method is flawed in That it sucks away meter sensitivity, takes More time, and needs to be done over and over Again everytime the lighting changes, the aperture Setting changes, the varibl

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
They add some barcode type stuff to Allow the lens to communicate more lens Info to the camera automatically everytime You mount the lens. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:26 AM To: Pentax-

RE: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
>A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that's >something to be desired, which I think is highly debatable) is to >teach him to like football & beer. And to like cars, don't forget cars. Cars and trucks are what make society go round. It's what makes the universe go round ;-) B

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread graywolf
Yes, and there are only two of them in the factory tending the robots. J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Do you know what the average hourly > Wage of a Chinese factory worker is TODAY? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The thought never crossed my mind. I just figured that, since the K/M lenses didn't have the electrical contacts of the A series and later lenses, the multi point metering couldn't be implemented. No "speculation" on my part - just an acceptance of the situation. While it might have been nice to

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Toine
Does this involve drilling holes in the lens mount and inserting epoxy in the drilled hole for transmitting the lens aperture? I tried this with a Tmount adapter but failed to invent a construction for the single connector pin which pops out the lens mount when an A lens is set to the A position. I

A day late

2006-10-22 Thread Bill Owens
Got this Saturday, a day late for the November PUG. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5107835 Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Alien invaders?

2006-10-22 Thread Bob W
Sens-A-Thumb? Do you mean the vignetting? That's the lens hood and a wide-open lens. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi > Sent: 22 October 2006 15:57 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Alien

RE: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Bob W
it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want to go out and take pictures. A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that

Re: Alien invaders?

2006-10-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 22, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Bob W wrote: > I don't take many low-light photos outdoors, so when things aren't > quite right I'm not always sure of the explanation. > > In this picture there is a string of phantom lights which I assume are > a reflection of the real lightbulbs shown: > http://www

RE: Alien invaders?

2006-10-22 Thread Michael Perham
things aren't quite right I'm not always sure of the explanation. In this picture there is a string of phantom lights which I assume are a reflection of the real lightbulbs shown: http://www.web-options.com/30470020.jpg Is this likely to be caused by a reflection from the filter in front of the

Alien invaders?

2006-10-22 Thread Bob W
Hi, I don't take many low-light photos outdoors, so when things aren't quite right I'm not always sure of the explanation. In this picture there is a string of phantom lights which I assume are a reflection of the real lightbulbs shown: http://www.web-options.com/30470020.jpg Is this likely to b

RE: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
To me, it is pretty obvious that you are correct. Men are gear heads. It is a part of our identity as men. And being a gear head is also the ticket into the world of male bonding. So if you are a man, and you want to make sure your son becomes a man among men, you give him gear, photo gear and oth

RE: Somebody talk me out of it

2006-10-22 Thread Tim Øsleby
No matter what lens you use, shooting with long lenses is difficult. I'm still in the learning phase. It is like going hunting. And hunting is hard. I started with a lens pretty similar to Jens, a Tokina ATX-150-500/5,6. After a while I realised the optical quality was not good enough at the long

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: > I suspect you are pretty close to accurate. I also suspect that Pentax > will, if this scenario plays out, make a larger throated mount with the > same registration distance to allow adapted K mount lenses to function > via a non optical adaptor. Or mayb

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/21/2006 10:09:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I am helping to break that past trend. Both of my oldest daughters have shown great interest. My oldest has both an MX and *ist film cameras. My next daughter just finished shooting a wedding with m

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Toine wrote: > You probably also want matrix metering with M lenses? Yes, it actually is possible, or at least it was with the film bodies, with the modification Mark Roberts and others have made to their lenses. But, as we have said in a different thread, Pentax won't tell

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: > How many people > actually wade through the entire manual, except for the anal retentives > on this list, that is. What a load of bollocks. So (forget Pentax, K lenses and the rest for now) it's the company's fault that the user can't be arsed to read t

Re: New photo Website!

2006-10-22 Thread Jack Davis
When I was at a point where getting on-line sales was my daily goal, I paid an outfit called Overture to put up my "search words" to assist the shopper in connecting with my stuff. You pay so much per contact and at that time, I think the minimum was, maybe, 8 or 10 cents per hit. I kept it going f

AW: PESO:Acorn - and greetings to Boris

2006-10-22 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Brucxe yes, it's the flash that did that. I'm still too lazy to carry more than a monopod on sunday late afternoon walks ;-) thanks for looking and commenting Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Bruce Dayton Gesendet: Sonntag,

AW: PESO -- Almost Abandoned

2006-10-22 Thread Markus Maurer
I like the warm yellows and the mood too but the sky is a bit disturbing. greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2006 05:39 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Re: PESO -- Al

Re: Shake Reduction Question

2006-10-22 Thread David Savage
On 10/22/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21/10/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So basically the sensor is always "floating" and only shifts when SR > > is activated. Which is how I thought it might work when the battery > > life data was mentioned a few mo

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread David Savage
Oh. Sorry. Dave On 10/22/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know that. I was interested in knowing what JCO thought or knew. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: David Savage > > > They're basically putting a bar code on the lens mount that the > > digital camera

Re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/10/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: >In my experience - to women, size matters most. The smaller the better. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Look at the JD Power numbers. Toyota and Honda are leaders in quality, but GM is close to the top these days as is Ford. All of the US carmakers outperform the Europeans. It's not opinion. It's fact. On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:11 AM, keith_w wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Sorry, but you don't have

Re: Shake Reduction Question

2006-10-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/10/06, Lawrence Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From what JohnCPentax has described (not sure if I understand him > correctly), the CCD only moves into position after the shutter release is > pressed, and *during* the time when the mirror flips up. But it can move > so quickly that it wo

Re: Shake Reduction Question

2006-10-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/10/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So basically the sensor is always "floating" and only shifts when SR > is activated. Which is how I thought it might work when the battery > life data was mentioned a few months ago. >From what I can gather, there's no way to fix the floating

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, I know that. I was interested in knowing what JCO thought or knew. Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > They're basically putting a bar code on the lens mount that the > digital camera can read so it knows what lens is mounted. > >

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No they're not. Push the GB and the lens and camera communicate, the aperture is recorded and exposure info is calculated, shutter speed is adjusted. The camera and lens just communicate differently. Plus, by activating the DOF button, the camera provides a read out in the viewfinder of how much

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread David Savage
They're basically putting a bar code on the lens mount that the digital camera can read so it knows what lens is mounted. Dave On 10/22/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And what is Leica doing ? > > Shel > > > > >

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Another "joke?" Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > Dumb Dumb Dumb. > > The situation goes BOTH WAYS you twit. > Dumb & Dumber. Both the DSLR cameras and you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Shake Reduction Question

2006-10-22 Thread David Savage
On 10/22/06, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 21, 2006, at 5:34 AM, David Savage wrote: > > > I reckon if the camera was struck by lightening the SR system would go > > nut's and shoot the sensor out the side of the camera. But then again > > it might just melt. > > If your camera wer

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And what is Leica doing ? Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > Hell, Leica is even now offering mod services to make > Older lenses function even BETTER than new, not worse > Than new like pentax is doing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread keith_w
Paul Stenquist wrote: > Sorry, but you don't have a clue. I have a lot more than a clue, Paul My family and I have lived with various GM cars over the years, as well as perhaps 30 other vehicles personally. That includes a number of Chevys and Buicks. And for me, a preponderance of foreign iron,

Re: OT - Photo cards

2006-10-22 Thread John Celio
> This is off topic, but can anyone recommend an affordable site that > prints folded photo holiday/greeting cards? I don't know if this fits what you're looking for, but I have an online photo store for my images through Cafe Press: http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto You can make folding

re: Your first camera

2006-10-22 Thread Jens Bladt
It is interesting. In my experience - to women, size matters most. The smaller the better. I have known men to have a similar approach to buying a camera too. I never really cared much about the size of a camera. I don't carry a camera where ever I go. I photograph when, I go out to photograph - no

RE: Lucas, was:The JCO survey

2006-10-22 Thread Malcolm Smith
Graywolf wrote: >I understand British build cars with Lucus starters had them up into the 50's . Certainly my 1981 Land-Rover had a starting handle and I was pleased to have it (Lucas, Prince of Darkness comments or not!) . Likewise, in my current Defender, I'm delighted I can still have wind up

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