GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses

Re: PESO: Trinket Dog

2013-09-11 Thread Attila Boros
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Attila, I can only see the preview; nothing happens when I double-click on it. Just click it once, and you will see keyboard shortcuts at the bottom (M is for maximize). Original size is 1024x880. Based only on that...

Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen

2013-09-11 Thread Bob W
Depends on the bird. Obviously cormorant plumage is the most expensive and the heaviest, pound for pound, in the world because of its very high beauty content. It is also remarkable that if you drop a cormorant off the Tower of Pisa in a vacuum, it follows a rapid perpendicular arc towards

Re: PESO - Which way?

2013-09-11 Thread Bob W
Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: On my way to work earlier this week: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524170size=lg

Re: PESO - Which way?

2013-09-11 Thread Attila Boros
Looks like crop here marks for street maintenance:) On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by (which it isn't, since those are the kind of directions it gives). B On 11 Sep 2013, at 02:09, Rick Womer

Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen

2013-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
a pound of feathers, gold only has twelve troy oz per pound. On 9/10/2013 9:08 PM, John wrote: Which weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? On 9/10/2013 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 01:48:42PM -0400, John wrote: So much more affordable when you think of it

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
I will say that a while back the one brand that had my attention was Sony. Pentax made a huge leap when they adopted Sony Exmor sensors, and Sony gives itself an edge in the sensor department. They also had fairly reasonably priced full frame options and the internal shake reduction that I

Re: PESO - Which way?

2013-09-11 Thread Rick Womer
Close. In Pennsylvania anyone wanting to dig has to call 811, an agency that maintains maps of all below-ground utilities.  When digging is contemplated they come out and mark the streets and sidewalks with a different color for each utility.   Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW -

Re: PESO - Which way?

2013-09-11 Thread Rick Womer
Or Apple Maps.   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:19 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Which way? Must be Garmin's handiwork, if my GPS is anything to go by

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. You may be very pleasantly surprised on both counts here. I don't easily recall when I last used my K-5 and I totally

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
Bummer... Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Was running to catch a bus. My tripod swung around and got caught in between my legs. Down I went tumbling with the camera slamming into the asphalt. I had my A35-105/3.5 mounted. Its now bent

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
Sh*t happens. Its just a lens.A somewhat inexpensive one at that. I had grown rather attached to that one thoughseeing if I can score one on ebay or keh right now. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Bummer... Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2013,

It's almost that time

2013-09-11 Thread CollinB
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Well, silly Darren, one composes with an LCD or electronic viewfinder exactly the same way one does with an optical

Re: PESO - Big Chile

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, Most everybody in the northern US are growing peppers as annuals. And growing chili peppers specifically because the supermarkets don't 'HOT'. We have a local mexican market that may, but as a rule the big chains don't. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM, David Mann

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice. Can you say 'Nighthawks'. You should get a bigger display image. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held)

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, they do have a unique look about them. I can't tell how much is the camera/film and how much is your POV. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried

Re: Shot from CT beach

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Still a bad link... On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:45 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: The manipulated shot works much better, IMHO. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of CollinB Sent: Tuesday, 10 September

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Far better, Bob. Far better. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob, You answered part of it yourself. :) This is today, that was years ago. No lines. I was mildly blown away by the IQ of

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
Well not really looking through... looking at. Tom C. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Years ago somebody bought a digital PS with a digital viewfinder. I was instantly turned off by the lines on the screen. Tell me it's better now??? Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob,

Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant

2013-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Inviting and intriguing. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held)

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you Cotty! and Bob! Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/ DELIGHTFUL set of pics! Love the square format and the endearing softness. Really really nice job Godders -- PDML

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about the photos

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable time delay between pushing the shutter release and the actual image

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Ken, can it be that you're confusing the shutter release lag with EVF operation. With my Ricoh GXR and (manual focus) Leica M-module, everything is quite excellent in this regard. Both the viewfinder is very easy to use and focusing by b/w focus assist is easy. The shutter release is very fast,

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The modern EVF cameras have reduced lag to almost non-existent. My older EVF cameras - Sony F707/F717/F828/R1, Olympus 8080WZ, Panasonic FZ10, Minolta A2 - were fairly pathetic on viewfinder responsiveness and resolution. I used the viewfinder primarily as a targeting device. I remember the

Re: PESO - Smoke Effects

2013-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the effect; well done indeed. It reminds me of the Hawaiian sunsets colored by vog from the volcanoes on the Big Island. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: There has been some

Re: GESO: Lens handover and trip to Primrose Hill

2013-09-11 Thread Ben Price
Thanks for looking and for the comments Bob S., Bob W., Bruce, Chris, Darren Dan! I'm no Butterfly expert (my job is Curator of Dragonflies and Small Orders, which is essentially the river insects and lacewings), but John I think the leaf mimics would probably move once a caterpillar started

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 with an EVF, for evidence photography, years ago and in my opinion it was a great camera for static image capture but wasn't one to use for any sort of dynamic capture - there was a noticeable

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. You may be very pleasantly surprised on both counts here. I don't

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
And just like that someone from pentaxforums messages me with a good copy for a very good price. Waiting to see some pictures of it. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Bruce
You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Darren Addy wrote: But if you asked me the brand that appears most likely to be my 2nd choice, should it ever come to that, I would say Sony. Their NEX cameras are pretty clearly the best mirrorless option out there, IQ-wise, but I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD

Re: GESO: Lens handover and trip to Primrose Hill

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ben, I forgot to mention how effective those pictures of the butterflies on the plain white background were. Not a choice I thought I'd like. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ben Price ben.wills.pr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for looking and for the comments Bob S., Bob W.,

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
Hi Marnie, Was browsing and came across this interesting little article. Caveat: it was written over 9 months ago so I don't know if updated firmware is available. http://photomojomike.com/2012/11/21/fujifilm-x-e1-first-impressions/ I'm V interested in the X-E1, hence my post. -- Cheers,

Re: PESO - Smoke Effects

2013-09-11 Thread Jack Davis
Very well done, Bruce! Composition is just great. Exposure is dramatic and without appearing pushed. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: PESO - Smoke Effects

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
Bruce wrote: You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a look at these new EVF's. Another question I have is in regards to sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action? I don't shoot sports but I wouldn't think so. I pan with the NEX-7 just

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston just reported on rumors that next month will see the announcement of an interchangeable-lens sibling to the full-frame Sony RX-1. Food for thought. And not long to wait to see if it's true. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Steve Cottrell wrote: Was browsing and came across this interesting little article. Caveat: it was written over 9 months ago so I don't know if updated firmware is available. http://photomojomike.com/2012/11/21/fujifilm-x-e1-first-impressions/ Given Marnie's interest

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/11/2013 6:31 PM, Tom C wrote: For those of us with older eyes, the modern EVF's almost feel like a new pair of glasses. Mine are not older but weaker and I totally second that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The latest generation of EVF cameras have substantially reduced the tendency to tearing and jitter with camera motion—it's down to almost none now, and is certainly very usable for my needs. But it is still one area where a good reflex viewfinder has an advantage. Likewise C-AF tracking

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
Perhaps of more interest: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/tag/fuji/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Tom C
From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Mike Johnston just reported on rumors that next month will see the announcement of an interchangeable-lens sibling to the full-frame Sony RX-1. Food for thought. And not long to wait to see if it's true. My opinion only... As nice as that

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-11 7:15 Tom C wrote Take a look through a NEX-6 or 7 EVF. It's a 2.3 million pixel image. That's more than twice the pixel count of the LCD monitor. be careful here - pixel is the wrong word; unfortunately, camera manufacturers have taken to inflating viewfinder resolution by

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread John
KEH shows a BGN A 28-135/4 currently in stock. Also a couple of 35-105 F4-5.6 SMC F MACRO (58) EX+ EX and a BGN 35-135 F3.5-4.5 SMC F MACRO (58). And two EX 28-105 F4-5.6 SMC FA (58) That says to me you should be able to find some suitable replacement to fit your needs once you are ready to

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread John
Andy Warhol's SX-70 was up on eBay recently http://petapixel.com/2013/08/09/andy-warhols-1986-sx-70-polaroid-land-camera-selling-on-ebay-for-5/ On 9/11/2013 2:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I carried the Polaroid

Re: Most expensive used lens Ive ever seen

2013-09-11 Thread John
Yet, oddly enough, an ounce of gold weighs more than an ounce of feathers. Go figure. On 9/11/2013 5:26 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: a pound of feathers, gold only has twelve troy oz per pound. On 9/10/2013 9:08 PM, John wrote: Which weighs more a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? On

Re: PESO - Smoke Effects

2013-09-11 Thread John
Beautiful sunset, but the air's not fit to breathe. Looks like there's going to be some unplesant consequences for water supplies in the area as well. On 9/11/2013 12:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Very well done, Bruce! Composition is just great. Exposure is dramatic and without appearing pushed.

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
I considered the F 35-105s pretty hard. I decided that I didn't want to give up the f3.5 constant. The A35-105 is pretty darned sharp wide open in the center. Perfect for portraits and bokeh is good @ 100mm. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH shows a BGN A

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread John
On 9/11/2013 8:34 AM, Tom C wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not a big fan of composing on the LCD and have yet to actually try an electronic viewfinder. Well, silly Darren, one composes with an LCD or electronic viewfinder exactly the

Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread kwaller
Thanks Godfrey - I probably need to get my hands on some of the newer EVF's just to see how they currently are. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com Subject: Re: Which second party camera system do

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Somehow, I doubt that spending $50K for Andy's camera will make my photos any better. I already have three SX-70s ... All of them were given to me. Of course, an order of ten packs of film just cost me $250 ... But I can buy a LOT of film of $50K. :-) Godfrey On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:11 PM,

Re: OT: 1958 documentary on Ansel Adams (20 min. video)

2013-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
Suburban = nowhere near as cool as a 46-48 Cadillac limousine. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Check Craigslist for a used Chevy Suburban install the deck yourself. On 9/9/2013 3:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'd love an old limo like his (with platform on

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, Aahz, I suppose it is power to you then. You see, starting with K-7, the default focusing screen wasn't properly located for accurate shallow DOF manual focus (think 77/1.8 wide open or worse yet 50/1.2 wide open). I had a saga with K-7 shimming. The K-5 that I bought brand new - I

PESO - Smoke Effects

2013-09-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that provided an opportunity. Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Peso: Battery Point Restaurant

2013-09-11 Thread John
Shot through a window? The reflection is distracting. On 9/10/2013 9:39 PM, Philip Northeast wrote: Pentax K5 DA 21mm Limited - ISO 3200 - f3.2 and 1/20sec (hand held) http://abouttas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Battery-Point-restaurant.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: 1958 documentary on Ansel Adams (20 min. video)

2013-09-11 Thread John
Check Craigslist for a used Chevy Suburban install the deck yourself. On 9/9/2013 3:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'd love an old limo like his (with platform on top) to run around in now. ('cept, given the fact that I'm a weenie and we are currently enjoying 100 degree temps, I would like it to

Re: first impressions, mac mini quad core

2013-09-11 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-08 14:04 Larry Colen wrote It turns out that the 27 display isn't noticably taller, just wider. This gives me a bit more room on the sides for menus and such. My second display is a Dell u2312hm in vertical format. I'd prefer something with less of a wide aspect ratio in vertical

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
I keep considering the A 28-135, but then look at the reviews on PF and decide against it. It looks pretty badass though. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I considered the F 35-105s pretty hard. I decided that I didn't want to give up the f3.5 constant. The

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread John
I'm not boycotting Sony, I just don't like their crap products. Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Although, I haven't forgotten (or forgiven) that root-kit debacle either. On 9/11/2013

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread John
On the downside, you have to deal with that funky Minolta flash mount. On 9/11/2013 7:21 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I will say that a while back the one brand that had my attention was Sony. Pentax made a huge leap when they adopted Sony Exmor sensors, and Sony gives itself an edge in the sensor

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote: Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned failed had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired. Timex bought Sony??? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 03:37:57PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE For about a C-note, it's probably

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread John
KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
OhI thought that ugly lenses were still ok optically. Yeah, you are right it probably has fungus or something really awful. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing.

Re: The fun. It just keeps on happening for me too.

2013-09-11 Thread Bruce
I had one of those along with the 35-105 and it is a big chunk of glass. It is nowhere near the performer as the 35-105. I ended up sending it back to KEH because of the mediocre optical quality. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread John
And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it. 8-D On 9/11/2013 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Somehow, I doubt that spending $50K for Andy's camera will make my photos any better. I already have three SX-70s ... All of them were

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not on the latest ones. They now have an ISO shoe fitted with the interface for their EVF on the RX-1, and the ISO shoe on the NEX 6 as well. In general, however, I'm not partial to the NEX bodies. They feel very cramped in my hands. The 6 seems the best of them so far, but it doesn't give me

Colors on radiolab

2013-09-11 Thread Larry Colen
Driving home last night, I caught a show on NPR about color perception. http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/ There were some interesting discussions about trichromats, tetrachromats, and animals that are penta or hexchromats. It is something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, espcially

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread John
Unless you're a working pro on paid assignment from Sports Illustrated, you're required to have shutter lag. Except, I can't remember if that's in the Constitution or the NFL's rule book. On 9/11/2013 11:37 AM, Bruce wrote: You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take a

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Bob W
Cotty could do it. He'll mount anything. B On 11 Sep 2013, at 21:09, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it. 8-D On 9/11/2013 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Somehow, I doubt that

Re: first impressions, mac mini quad core

2013-09-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:53:52PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-08 14:04 Larry Colen wrote It turns out that the 27 display isn't noticably taller, just wider. This gives me a bit more room on the sides for menus and such. My second display is a Dell u2312hm in vertical format. I'd

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread kwaller
Boris, focusing wasn't an issue with the 5700 and moving animals/birds - but I mostly never was able to capture a moving subject and get it in the center of the frame - I had to anticipate where it was going to be when the camera decided to capture the image. Granted that was with an EVF that

Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1

2013-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
I'm embarrassed to say that I have YET to even try out my O-GPS1, which I purchased mainly for the AstroTracer functionality. Life has been a little disrupted, but is getting back to nominal (as NASA likes to say during their spacecraft launches). I now have an even greater incentive to get ON

Re: PESO - Big Chile

2013-09-11 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all, Thanks for all the comments and thanks, Igor, for that detailed explanation. It appears that chile, chili and chilli are all correct - depending on location. I'm fairly sure 'chile' is accepted in New Mexico - we actually picked up a hand-out at Chimayo which went to great

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty could do it. He'll mount anything. And frequently do. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Non manufacturer 400s average $1500? Not on this planet. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody

PESO - That Way!

2013-09-11 Thread Rick Womer
Yesterday's was Which way?, so now I'll answer the question. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524180size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524180-lg.jpg Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Normal Full Frame Zoom

2013-09-11 Thread Mark C
Yes - that is what I meant - A 28-135 f4. Nice lens. On 9/10/2013 1:30 PM, John wrote: Did you mean an A 28-135/4? I couldn't find an A 28-100/4. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/short/A28-135f4.html On 9/9/2013 8:29 PM, Mark C wrote: Thanks - I remember you posting about this lens

Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-11 Thread Rick Womer
These remind me of photos from a Holga.  Interesting and unusual way to document the party, I think. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com; SeePhoto Talk

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
From all accounts the GXR is a very good camera system, but I don't understand it (at all) and when you have something that is radically different than everything else out there, the burden falls upon the marketing department to make it clear. I look at the GXR modules on Amazon and it is not

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
My favorite second party camera is my iphone5. It's all I need in a compact camera. I've even done some work for the Times with it when circumstances required that. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From all accounts the GXR is a very good

OT Pentax parts suppliers

2013-09-11 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Team, Can anyone here help me with a reliable Pentax parts supplier, I need to find out the price for a component (outside Oz)? Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Larry Colen
The way I understand it is that effectively each GXR module is the camera portion of a digital point and shoot. I.e. the lens, aperture, shutter and sensor. The body part is the computer half of a digital point and shoot, that holds the display, viewfinder, memory, buttons etc. The

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Darren - you expressed my frustration exactly! I have 2-3 legacy Leica lenses, because of these I have a passing interest in any adapter or system that purports to provide me a chance to use those lenses digitally. I tried to look at the GXR and I just don't get it. Back in the day,

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Larry - that helps. On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The way I understand it is that effectively each GXR module is the camera portion of a digital point and shoot. I.e. the lens, aperture, shutter and sensor. The body part is the computer half of a digital point

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:26:30PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks Larry - that helps. I should post the disclaimer that I don't think that I have ever even seen a Ricoh GXR in real life. I've seen a lot of Suzuki GSXRs, but they are subtley different. It is possible that I was in error about

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Darren, I don't know how your comments relate to the quotations by John and Aahz Maruch that you included. The Ricoh GXR is a unique camera system, and Ricoh has not been very good at explaining what it's all about. The concept is this: Build a compact, light camera as a pair of modules:

Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Darren (Larry, et al), it is in fact very simple thing. Have a look: 1. You have a camera body. The body serves all the electronic functions: - card - battery - screen - user interface - external interfaces 2. You have two small sensor lens modules (I think it is 24-72 and 28-300 or whatever),

Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-11 Thread Zos Xavius
Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs.