Re: wifi live view

2013-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
I can imagine a number of very humorous scenes, each of which I would certainly like to photograph with my very lowly (by comparison with K-3) Ricoh GXR + M-module. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, >

Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce
For a minute I thought this was your entry in the America's Cup. Little small though ;-) -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >A new project beckons ... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox > >thanks for looking. comments always appreciated

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have no problems getting clear hand-held shots with ASA 400 film at f/2.8, 1/4-1/8 second, EV 3 on the chart you referenced. Without IS. With my G1, I find quite a number of excellent shots, even of people moving, at light levels which, according to your chart, is ISO -1. Heck, I have some ve

Re: wifi live view

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Loveday
That should be shit-tonne. I thought it was Imperial shit-tonne, and a metric (technically an ISO) shit-ton. I believe ASA also uses shit-ton, but I could be mistaken. Definitely Tonne in metric. Of course it all depends.. If you have a metric 'ton' of shit, that's a shit-tonne. But if you

Re: wifi live view

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 05:02:12PM +1100, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Larry Colen : > > >It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, > >and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric > >shit-ton of awesome. > > > That should be shit-tonne. I thoug

Re: wifi live view

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Larry Colen : It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. That should be shit-tonne. ;-)> -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Syd

wifi live view

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdm

Re: PESO: Andromeda Holds Out Hope

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:28:44PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: > First success tonight with the O-GPS1. Got a whole series of images at > different exposures of Andromeda and her neighbors. I hope to get my > first taste of stacking RAW files for more a detailed image tomorrow, > but for now here is

Re: OM-D E-M5 (was Aliasing question)

2013-10-09 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > > Pssst. I am still seriously interested in the Olympus EM-5. BUT... going > to wait until I can get it used. keh.com currently has them for $695/LN- or $665/EX+ (I'd probably go ahead and spend the extra $30 for LN- but it really doesn't matter

Re: IR's self-potrait in IR (and other science-fun photos)

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:51:29AM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > The title says it all. > http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04201.html I sincerely hope that you submitted that to http://hotornot.com > > I don't remember if I had shown this one earlier. > I thought I di

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:03:42PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Please define "low light" vs "dim light" for me. EV values would be useful as > a basis of comparison. I guess I'd say that low light is in the range where it is challenging to get a clear photo, hand held, even with a K-5. Loo

Re: PESO - Patterns

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
AHA! Thanks. M aka D :-) --- Well, Marnie, since you asked... There is a bridge over a busy street between two buildings at work. The glass walls of the bridge have those white dots on them to make them visible to birds. For a few months I've been intrigued by the sh

Re: IR's self-potrait in IR (and other science-fun photos)

2013-10-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
A moment after I sent this e-mail, I found the self-portrait I had sent earlier: http://42graphy.org/misc/IR-self_portrait_IR04202.jpg I think the one I uploaded today is more clear and have fewer blown-out highlights. Igor > From s...@trantor.komkon.org Thu Oct 10 00:51:42 2013 > Date: Thu, 1

IR's self-potrait in IR (and other science-fun photos)

2013-10-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
The title says it all. http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04201.html I don't remember if I had shown this one earlier. I thought I did, but I cannot find the photo on the website or the message that had sent. I am going through the photos taken at the Physics Festival earli

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread David Mann
On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Now I'm hungry - fortunately, I still haven't had breakfast I've just had second lunch and am having second breakfast at the moment so I'm not exactly hungry, but you lot are making me want a hot dog. We haven't made them for ages. Will see

PESO: Andromeda Holds Out Hope

2013-10-09 Thread Darren Addy
First success tonight with the O-GPS1. Got a whole series of images at different exposures of Andromeda and her neighbors. I hope to get my first taste of stacking RAW files for more a detailed image tomorrow, but for now here is a crop of a single in-camera JPEG with only mimimal post-processing (

Re: PESO - Patterns

2013-10-09 Thread Rick Womer
Marnie, I sent this a few days ago, but it apparently never made it to the list. I think the new (lousy) Yahoo mail switched it to rich text. -- Well, Marnie, since you asked... There is a bridge over a busy street between two buildings at work.  The glass walls of the bridge

Re: PESO: Bridge

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Attila Boros : http://500px.com/photo/48562942 Press H to view it on a black background. Not HDR but very close to the sensor's dynamic range. Had to fiddle around with the exposure to avoid clipping. Excellent. A very peaceful scene, well exposed. The sky's interesting - would h

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread knarf
"You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave." Hope you drop by to say "hi" once in a while. I've always enjoyed your photos and thoughts. Take good care! Cheers, frank Walter Hamler wrote: >It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals >all the be

PESO - Look Ma, No Hands

2013-10-09 Thread knarf
Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/list

Re: PESO - Bromo Seltzer

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Rick Womer : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17551948&size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17551948-lg.jpg I like that - good colour and nice, clean background. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ry

Re: PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting knarf : All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1

Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Darren Addy : Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ Pinch me, I must be dreaming. The author of the article might be impressed but that doesn't seem to have much support in the comments. -- Cheers B

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Walter Hamler : It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Sorry to see you go, Walt. Hope all is well. Try to drop by occasionally. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walter

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Christine Aguila
Hope all is well, Walt, and wish you the best. Cheers, Christine On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: > It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals > all the best. You truly are some great photographers! > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Please define "low light" vs "dim light" for me. EV values would be useful as a basis of comparison. G On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > ... My only complaint with u4/3 has been with their sensor performance in low > light conditions. It seems as if the u4/3 sensors are catchi

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Pssst. I am still seriously interested in the Olympus EM-5. BUT... going to wait until I can get it used. Marnie aka Doe :-) I don't know, Godfrey, you seem pretty geeky to me. ;-) Re camera: cool. In a message dated 10/9/2013 6:50:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, godd...@me.com writes:

Re: PESO - Saturday Night With Ches

2013-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Like this one. Lots of life. Paul On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:15 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > Nice shot. Love the guy in the back. Heh. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > In a message dated 10/8/2013 5:46:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: > Another Saturday night at the lo

Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 09:42:36PM -0400, Mark C wrote: > On 10/9/2013 9:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:46:33PM -0400, Mark C wrote: > >>On 10/9/2013 8:41 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > >>>Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? > >>>http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-ma

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 06:49:13PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Don't feel bad, Marnie. They're significantly geekier than I am, and that's > saying a lot. > I'd rather be geeky making photographs, however. > > (Psst: My new camera is on the way to me now, although I doubt anyone on the > P

Re: PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Now that's a lovely trolley! G On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:04 PM, knarf wrote: > All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was > just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've > spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: >

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Don't feel bad, Marnie. They're significantly geekier than I am, and that's saying a lot. I'd rather be geeky making photographs, however. (Psst: My new camera is on the way to me now, although I doubt anyone on the PDML is interested to know that other than a couple of friends. However, Cotty

Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Mark C
On 10/9/2013 9:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:46:33PM -0400, Mark C wrote: On 10/9/2013 8:41 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ Pinch me, I must be dreaming. I thin

Re: PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nifty! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, knarf wrote: > All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was > just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've > spruced up one or t

Re: Peso The Game

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Interesting. Especially contrast between center character and the others. I like it. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 12:51:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: Here is one I've been meaning to post for a week or two. Don't ask me what camera I used. I

Re: PESO - Bromo Seltzer

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Good one. I keep feeling the tallest bottle should have a little more head room, but that is a quibble. Very nice --- like the composition. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 6:04:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_

Re: PESO - Saturday Night With Ches

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Nice shot. Love the guy in the back. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 5:46:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Another Saturday night at the local coffee joint: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/10/saturday-night-with-ches.html?m=1 Every

Re: PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Nice trolley. Would like it more with people. :-) Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/9/2013 4:04:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
You know, someone asked me the other day because I have been a computer programmer, if I had ever been a geek. I said no, not really. I think that is confirmed now. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 5:17:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: To show the effect

Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:46:33PM -0400, Mark C wrote: > On 10/9/2013 8:41 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > >Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? > >http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ > >Pinch me, I must be dreaming. > > > I think that's when you realize that

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
I'm fairly new to Python, but that looks about right. It might be possible to avoid the two innermost loops (x9, y9) by assigning directly to a slice: outbig[x*9:x*9+9, y*9:y*9+9] = value Not sure if that works. There's another shortcut you can use at the beginning: outbig = np.zeros_like(image

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:16:41PM -0400, Matthew Hunt wrote: > To show the effects of pixel fill factor on aliasing, I coded up a > small simulation. This 1000x1000 starting image: I don't speak python, but to have an output array of the same size, would I want something like: def DownsampleIma

Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Mark C
On 10/9/2013 8:41 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ Pinch me, I must be dreaming. I think that's when you realize that it's Ricoh and not Pentax Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: Geso Camera Club trip on our heritage railway.

2013-10-09 Thread Mark C
That's a fine collection, Dave. Your compositions mesh well with the (apparently) gloomy and overcast day. My favorites are 9, 13, 14, and 17, but the whole set is excellent. Mark On 10/7/2013 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Back in May i did a steam train trip, in Tottenham, and this past

I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...

2013-10-09 Thread Darren Addy
Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ Pinch me, I must be dreaming. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBS

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > It would be a lot easier to see if you could have each point of your output > be 9x9 > pixels, then the resulting image would be the same size as the original > (which is > giving me aliasing on my display BTW). Fair enough, but I have to wa

Re: GESO - Autumn Impressions

2013-10-09 Thread Mark C
LOL - I'm from the Midwest but my parent's were native New Yorkers and I picked up a lot of their affectations of speech. And *they* always called these guys daddy long legs as well... So it must be universal Mark On 10/7/2013 10:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: well I'm from the midwest too,

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:16:41PM -0400, Matthew Hunt wrote: > To show the effects of pixel fill factor on aliasing, I coded up a > small simulation. This 1000x1000 starting image: Awesome! > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/micro-auto-focus-test-2.png > (from http://www.

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread David J Brooks
nice shot. lots f co lours Dave On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM, knarf wrote: > These guys park in front of City Hall year round. > > Hot dog carts are everywhere and they're good but these chip wagons have (you > guessed it!) French fries. In addition to hot dogs and sausages you can also > ge

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
To show the effects of pixel fill factor on aliasing, I coded up a small simulation. This 1000x1000 starting image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/micro-auto-focus-test-2.png (from http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/auto-focus-test/ ) represents the image falling onto a 111x11

Re: PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Gorgeous shot of that one, Frank. Look how rich and lustrous the paint job is. I remember riding those things to visit Eatons on Yonge St. Shows you how old _I_ am. ;-) On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM, knarf wrote: > All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was >

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Bill
On 09/10/2013 2:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Bill wrote: I just ordered a K3, as well as the battery grip, 35-135 lens, flu-card and dongle from my local pusher. I think I need help. Bill, please line up a model or two to shoot in early November. I'm relying on yo

PESO - Red Rocket

2013-10-09 Thread knarf
All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1 I think they can be c

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > It isn't because of the "space between pixels", which has no effect on > aliasing. I disagree; see the references in my email. A high pixel fill factor acts essentially as a lowpass filter, substantially reducing aliasing. Think of it as aver

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-10-09 17:04, Larry Colen wrote: When the halftones get shot and the results aren't so hot that's a moire. Eek! :) Woo hoo! Next week is Petit le Mans! Flagging a day or two, and supporting the flaggers and other volunteers for the rest of the event. When I'm not flagging, I'll be

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 04:53:51PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2013-10-09 16:25, Larry Colen wrote: > > >Actually, what I think Doug should do is paint his racecar in a bayer filter > >of 2mm squares, just to screw with the trackside photographers. > > As one of said trackside photographers,

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-10-09 16:25, Larry Colen wrote: Actually, what I think Doug should do is paint his racecar in a bayer filter of 2mm squares, just to screw with the trackside photographers. As one of said trackside photographers, I don't think I want to give anyone else any ideas. :) -- Doug "Lefty"

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:00:10PM -0400, Postmaster wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: > > >It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space > >between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would > >not happen, because the light value would be averaged over t

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Bill wrote: > > I just ordered a K3, as well as the battery grip, 35-135 lens, flu-card and > dongle from my local pusher. > I think I need help. Bill, please line up a model or two to shoot in early November. I'm relying on you to report back on the performance of

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I love the smell of aromatic hydrocarbons in the morning! On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Whatever you choose to put on them, they must first have a slightly charred > skin and taste of aromatic hydrocarbons. UUMM > > Jack > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:51 AM, "ea

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:17:06PM -0600, Bill wrote: > On 09/10/2013 1:00 PM, Postmaster wrote: > >Larry Colen wrote: > > > >>It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space > >>between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would > >>not happen, becaus

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread Jack Davis
Whatever you choose to put on them, they must first have a slightly charred skin and taste of aromatic hydrocarbons.  UUMM   Jack On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:51 AM, "eactiv...@aol.com" wrote: I love hot dogs too, fat and all. If I  had to choose better one and a hamburger, the dog woul

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: >On 09/10/2013 1:00 PM, Postmaster wrote: >> Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space >>> between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would >>> not happen, because the light value would be averaged over th

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Bill
On 09/10/2013 1:00 PM, Postmaster wrote: Larry Colen wrote: It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample. It's the di

Re: PESO - Where the Rubber Meets the Rail

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
I figure it I liked something on FB don't have to comment here. But not sure of the etiquette on that. Correct me if I am wrong. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 6:16:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/wher

Re: PESO - Patterns

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Okay, I am still waiting... Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 6:25:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: Tomorrow, I may reveal all. Thanks for the compliments! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarf To: Pentax-D

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Postmaster
Larry Colen wrote: >It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space >between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would >not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample. > >It's the discontinuous aspect of what is effective

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
So obviously it doesn't matter -- that it is just a brand. Marnie aka Doe :-) I am glad that Pentax finally found a home that appreciates it. It seemed to, for years, to be drifting from one home to another. In a message dated 10/9/2013 11:49:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.co

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
I love hot dogs too, fat and all. If I had to choose better one and a hamburger, the dog would win every time. I like just mustard, lots of it, and pickle relish. Onion is okay too. I have done an informal hot dog survey of the county I live in (well, not totally completed yet in outlaying

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:44:08PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass, does it matter? > > Marnie aka Doe :-) Truly curious. I was making a joke. Pentax no longer exists as a company now. It is merely a brand of Ricoh. > > In a message dated 10

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass, does it matter? Marnie aka Doe :-) Truly curious. In a message dated 10/8/2013 10:27:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Haven't you people been paying attention. Pentax is doomed. I'm willing to bet that by this time nex

Re: OT Earliest Amateur Photographs

2013-10-09 Thread Alan C
Thanks for sharing, Dan. Very interesting. The earliest family photograph I can find is about 1897 which appears to have been taken in a studio. The earliest "amateur" ones are around 1908. -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:29 PM To: Pentax

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Eactivist
Bye, Walt. Good luck. Marnie aka Doe :-) My only excuse for still being on list is I have a Pentax Optio A40. Heh. In a message dated 10/9/2013 6:06:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the b

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: >> >>> It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space >>> between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would >>> not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample. >>> >>> I

Re:PAW Picture-A-Week project

2013-10-09 Thread Don Guthrie
Interesting look maybe even arresting look. Hope to see more. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:44:35 -0700 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi To: PAW Picture-A-Week project,SeePhoto Talk , BAPhotoShooters BAPA ,PDML List Subject: PESO 20

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Aliasing occurs regardless of how close together the cells are because the > cells are discrete. This kind of aliasing is a function of discrete > mathematics. I think you're dismissing Larry's point too easily. When we first learn abo

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread P.J. Alling
You'll be back, seems like no one ever leaves for good. On 10/9/2013 9:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignoran

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 09:53:52AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Aliasing occurs regardless of how close together the cells are because the > cells are discrete. This kind of aliasing is a function of discrete > mathematics. I'm afraid that I left my discrete math textbook at home, and it h

Re: Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Aliasing occurs regardless of how close together the cells are because the cells are discrete. This kind of aliasing is a function of discrete mathematics. G On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space > between the

PESO 2013 - 098 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Continuing ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10172788765/lightbox Perhaps another tomorrow. Thanks for looking, comments appreciated. Godfrey - godfreydigio...@me.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Aliasing question

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Colen
It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample. It's the discontinuous aspect of what is effectively three overlayed photos

Re: OT- Another one by Marc Newson

2013-10-09 Thread Bill
On 09/10/2013 7:59 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Maybe it's also a trial run for an Apple/Leica collab camera? Seems to have a lot of Apple styling cues, like the fine mesh and the iPod scroll wheel. They could modify the red dot by taking a small bite out of it. Leica by Hasbro. bill -- PDML Pent

Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >A new project beckons ... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox > >thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Fun! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producti

Re: OT: NEX shoe to drop?

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/10/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: >There is no God. But if there were, He'd want us to use a proper viewfinder. Rear LCDs - Satan's work!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ --

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt, Nice to have you along for a while. I still treasure your experience and those pictures from Antartica. Wishing you fair winds and smooth sailing ahead. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: > It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and g

Re: OT- Another one by Marc Newson

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Maybe it's also a trial run for an Apple/Leica collab camera? Seems to > have a lot of Apple styling cues, like the fine mesh and the iPod > scroll wheel. They could modify the red dot by taking a small bite out > of it. I sincerely doubt it. Un

Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Walker
This would look really wonderful printed large. Good stuff, Godfrey. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > A new project beckons ... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox > > thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. > > Godfrey - www.flickr.c

Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well, I like it ann On 10/9/2013 09:44, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A new project beckons ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Godfrey - www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT- Another one by Marc Newson

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Maybe it's also a trial run for an Apple/Leica collab camera? Seems to have a lot of Apple styling cues, like the fine mesh and the iPod scroll wheel. They could modify the red dot by taking a small bite out of it. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > This is supposed to solve t

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Since the computers--even the laptop--are K-3-ready, the K-3 itself won't join the family in the near future. Yonnie On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:23:31 -0600 Bill wrote: >> >>>Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to sc

PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A new project beckons ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Godfrey - www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:23:31 -0600 Bill wrote: > >>Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to scrape >>together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to come up with the >>money for a computer that's capable of handling the files with relative ease. >> >I di

Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon

2013-10-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Kosher hot dogs are usually a better bet than the regular variety, in my experience. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > You guys haven't had a good hot dog. They vary widely. But there is > certainly nothing wors

OT Earliest Amateur Photographs

2013-10-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.buzzfeed.com/leonoraepstein/the-very-first-amateur-photography-was-surprisingly-beautifu Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Sorry to see you leave, Walt! Come back soon. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: > It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals > all the best. You truly are some great photographers! > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Bill
On 08/10/2013 11:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I have a K20D and you know in spite of beating the crap out of it, I love it. The K-5 /was/ a significant upgrade. If the specifications are true, and the Image quality holds up, this could be the Game Changer that the each new Pentax has been hyped

Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs

2013-10-09 Thread Bill
On 08/10/2013 10:53 AM, Walt wrote: Yeah, it's so great it makes me angry. Not only am I going to have to scrape together the money for the camera, I'm also going to have to come up with the money for a computer that's capable of handling the files with relative ease. I did the computer thing

Re: PAW196 - Cobblestone

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Like it! :-) G On 10/6/2013 15:53, DagT wrote: > http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html > Pentax K-5, FA31mm, 1/60s, f11, ISO100 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Must say my Good Bye's

2013-10-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bye, Walt - I note you've only been lurking lately Hope things are good for ya ann On 10/9/2013 09:05, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@

Re: PESO - Where the Rubber Meets the Rail

2013-10-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
These folks are mad. ;-) Cool shot, frank. G On Oct 8, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM, knarf wrote: >> Charles was one of the "outsiders" at yesterday's Eighth Street Smackdown. >> No one could believe he did this: >> >> http://mondociclismo.blog

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