Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3 (long).

Hi I do believe I need to clarify something first. I born without thumbs and this does influence how I look at and use things. I bought my first SLR - a ME Super because it was the smallest SLR at the time and worked best for me. The 2 button interface which many don't like I actually

Re: KP pre-order

I was just goofing. That may be how they do EVF, I don't know. On 1/26/2017 6:08 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 03:59 AM, John wrote: Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. How is that

Re: Cropping

Yes, I find that with the K110D files too - only 6.1Mp to start with. Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Cropping Crop it the way that pleases you the best. If no one else appreciates it,

Re: Cropping

On 1/26/2017 1:11 PM, John wrote: Bottom line - shoot what you want to shoot. Hopefully whatever it is that attracted you to the scene in the first place will be in focus. Nothing else really matters. MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Exposure compensation

On 26/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >While I'm At It. You just made that up ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: KP pre-order

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, at 03:59 AM, John wrote: > Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the > pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. How is that different than an EVF? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > I've gotten nice large prints from cropped *istD files. Glad to hear that. I’ve got a bunch of *istD files most of which I think are not cropped at all. There are a few that might be worth printing. Something I’ve

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:11 PM, John wrote: > > Bottom line - shoot what you want to shoot. Hopefully whatever it is > that attracted you to the scene in the first place will be in focus. > Nothing else really matters. > > Crop it the way that pleases you the best. If no

Re: Cropping

Crop it the way that pleases you the best. If no one else appreciates it, that's their problem, not yours. However severe cropping might lead to issues of too small a file for printing large images, although I've gotten nice large prints from cropped *istD files. Kenneth Waller

Re: question for the list from a friend

Thanks John, I'll pass that on to her. Gonz On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:05 PM, John wrote: > On 1/26/2017 10:24 AM, Gonz wrote: >> >> A friend asked me this and I didn't have an answer, perhaps someone on >> the list has heard of this before? >> >> "I was wondering if you

Re: question for the list from a friend

On 1/26/2017 10:24 AM, Gonz wrote: A friend asked me this and I didn't have an answer, perhaps someone on the list has heard of this before? "I was wondering if you know anything about document cameras (i.e. rigs to photograph a large number of pages as an alternative to scanning). The idea is

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 26/1/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> What I ask is? > > GSH > > (Good Spot Hippy) Nope. -- Eric Weir

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On January 26, 2017 9:15:53 AM PST, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> On 26/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> WIAI, a question for you and Godfrey: What's "chimping"? Taking a >> shot, >>>

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 26/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> WIAI, a question for you and Godfrey: What's "chimping"? Taking a shot, >> checking the results, adjusting and taking it again? > > I've seen lots of internet

Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3 (long).

I don't think that the style of the Df influenced the style of the KP as much as the questions of how do we make the camera appear smaller, (ah shave of a couple of mm from the right top plate, and the grip. Hum, well now where do we put that pesky front wheel? Ah vertically on the front

Re: Exposure compensation

On 26/1/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >What I ask is? GSH (Good Spot Hippy) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: KP will not be the APS-C flagman, err. flagship?

Ergh!... I shouldn't be sending any messages before the breakfast... ... or maybe even until I have a good night sleep. But even then, I should have a breakfast first. ;-) P. J. Alling Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:29:32 -0800 wrote: Flagman? Shouldn't that be Flagship? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: question for the list from a friend

In that case, a hand-scanner would be a viable option. But that's, in my mind, is a tedious job, especially if the volume is high ("large number of pages", as you wrote). But in that case, any type of designed-for-large-volume camera based setup that I can envision, would not be anywhat

Re: Cropping

I think you may have missed something important though. Trying to keep all that in your head while photographing in the real world is probably going to make it explode. And that *WILL* make you miss the image you wanted. Everyone has their own *opinion* on the right way to do it. Everyone knows

Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3

I don't think Ricoh mistakes the Df for a sales leader either. But, if you compare the "style" of the KP in relation to the rest of the Pentax line of DSLRs and then compare the "style" of the Df in relation to the rest of Nikon's line-up, I think there are some similarities. On 1/26/2017 12:32

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

I don't remember exactly that might actually be a birch, color balance can sometimes get wonky with the K20D in when deep shade is involved, but you're probably right and it is a telephone poll, . On 1/26/2017 11:39 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, too much stuff showing in the background.

Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3

Looking at the top plates of both cameras dispels all illusions. The Pentax isn't a retro design aping an old film camera, it's a digital camera with one design touch from the film era. The Nikon is a serial killer wearing the skin suit of a victim... On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On

Re: Exposure compensation

What I ask is? On January 26, 2017 9:15:53 AM PST, Steve Cottrell wrote: >On 26/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>WIAI, a question for you and Godfrey: What's "chimping"? Taking a >shot, >>checking the results, adjusting and taking it again? Yes, people

Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3

I don't think so, the only thing retro about the KP is the shape of the "pentaprism" housing, and that's not particularly retro based on physics. I doubt even Ricoh, (ex Pentax), marketing could mistake the Nikon Df as a top sales leader. On 1/26/2017 11:38 AM, John wrote: On 1/25/2017

Re: KP will not be the APS-C flagman?

Flagman? Shouldn't that be Flagship? However DPReview, says it's the new APS-C flagship. I think they're still considered a reputable journalistic site, what ever that means in the current age, so I'm assuming that they got that from Ricoh, and didn't get it wrong. The biggest take away

In case anyone hadn't seen it yet

http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/index.php/cameras/pentax-kp It seems odd to have it priced above the K3 bodies. Yet some new features though still APS-C. I do wonder how well (or not) the wifi works. Was hoping they'd have the manual in the download area. Drat. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: KP pre-order

P. J. Alling wrote: > > The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit > disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it > probably was... The KP is a thousand dollars and the K-1 is two grand. Given that a camera in between tham would be around $1500 I'd

Re: Exposure compensation

On 26/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >WIAI, a question for you and Godfrey: What's "chimping"? Taking a shot, >checking the results, adjusting and taking it again? I've seen lots of internet acronyms but not that one. h!! -- Cheers,

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Pretty much, her posture and the book tell the story, but so too do her > sandals under the bench, which at this crop get lost in the shadows under the > bench. It needs the enthronement to tell the rest, but

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Enthronement how did any misspelling of environment get the spell checker to > suggest that word??? More importantly how the hell did I miss it??? We all do. It’s exasperating. One I let go buy on Twitter

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Yup, theory and practice. In practice, Lightroom is only good for > compensating by a few stops. With the K100 and K20, when shooting in low > light I was ruled by the histogram, with the K-5,3,1 it guides me. I know

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > It's not the ability to focus you lose, it's the ability to easily check > focus on the camera LCD or EVF in the field—the image display of a several > stops underexposed JPEG is too difficult to see fine detail in

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Gonz wrote: > > Not quite accurate, but close. There is still an amplifier there. > Just multiplying the digital values you get will result in > posterization at the shadow end, its math. You can't create > information out of nothing. If

Re: question for the list from a friend

On 26/1/17, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: >"I was wondering if you know anything about document cameras (i.e. >rigs to photograph a large number of pages as an alternative to >scanning). The idea is to use such a thing to convert many pages of >music charts into electronic form. Any

Re: KP pre-order

Maybe if they put a second one on top facing the bottom of the pentaprism so you could see it through the viewfinder. On 1/25/2017 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I won't like mirrorless until they invent a way to isolate the LED screen from ambient light. Of course then the size advantage is

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:36 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > Eric - I just meant, and apparently that didnt play, was that Stan was > playing photography 101 party-line teacher when he wrote to the general "you" > or "one""If there is something that interests you in an image,

Re: KP pre-order

On 1/25/2017 7:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That might make sense if there was any evidence at all that Ricoh has any interest at all in building an advanced mirrorless camera line. They had the basis for one and decided do quietly drop it, (and I don't mean either Pentax product). What this

Re: KP pre-order

*Adorama* says it's a replacement, but what has Ricoh said? On 1/25/2017 7:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I guess Adorama doesn't realize that the DA 40mm f2.8 isn't a weather sealed lens... The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit disappointing, actually that's an

Re: Exposure compensation

Gonz wrote: Not quite accurate, but close. There is still an amplifier there. Just multiplying the digital values you get will result in posterization at the shadow end, its math. You can't create information out of nothing. If you only have 2 bits of information (4 values), then the

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Thanks, Godfrey. I notice the disadvantage you mention in the other > post—possibly losing ability to focus accurately. Can autofocus be trusted in > such situations? It's not the ability to focus you lose, it's the

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

Or..embarrassed sky.(?) j - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:16:55 AM Subject: Re: Peso : The Evil Sky On 1/26/2017 12:18 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: > How apropos. > > m Yup >

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

Yeah, too much stuff showing in the background. However, that's a perfectly placed telephone poll growing from her head. J :) - Original Message - From: "Eric Weir" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:39:40 AM

Re: Exposure compensation

Not quite accurate, but close. There is still an amplifier there. Just multiplying the digital values you get will result in posterization at the shadow end, its math. You can't create information out of nothing. If you only have 2 bits of information (4 values), then the digitization can only

Re: Pentax KP camera size compared to K-5 and K-3

On 1/25/2017 8:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: There is no meaningful size difference between a KP and K-5. http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,187 Ditto the KP and K-3 just in case anyone cared... http://camerasize.com/compare/#706,485 I think this may be the more meaningful comparison:

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

Enthronement how did any misspelling of environment get the spell checker to suggest that word??? More importantly how the hell did I miss it??? On 1/26/2017 11:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Pretty much, her posture and the book tell the story, but so too do her sandals under the bench, which

Re: Cropping

On 1/26/2017 9:19 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 26 January 2017 at 14:13, Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: If Eric wants to crop less, he can do either what you suggest and read some serious texts on the matter,

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

Pretty much, her posture and the book tell the story, but so too do her sandals under the bench, which at this crop get lost in the shadows under the bench. It needs the enthronement to tell the rest, but it doesn't need quite as much, and closer the details would have been more prominent.

Re: question for the list from a friend

>>"I am curios: what type of challenge your friend is facing so that he/she is >>considering a non-scanner solution?" I don't know, perhaps the pages are not removable and you can't lay them flat? On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > I don't have

question for the list from a friend

I don't have first-hand expertise with this. From what I've read, - most (if not all?) document archives/libraries are using scanners rather than photo cameras for this purpose these days. Obviously, there are different types of scanners. Typically, flatbed scanners are used for scanning

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Thanks, Mark. That helps. >> >> It also raises something else I’ve been wondering about. Can I set ISO to a >> low value, use whatever aperture and shutting settings I want for depth of >> field and capturing

Re: PESO -- Spring Idle

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:06 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > I shot this damn, now that I look at it, about 5 years ago give or take a > season, and experimented with a bunch of different crops. Never got around > to posting it. It really needs to be framed tighter for

Re: Exposure compensation

> Thanks, Mark. That helps. > > It also raises something else I’ve been wondering about. Can I set ISO to a > low value, use whatever aperture and shutting settings I want for depth of > field and capturing motion, not bother about underexposure, adjust exposure > in post processing, and

Re: Cropping

On 1/26/2017 9:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:45 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I read Stan's comment as a bit of a toungue in cheek admonishment. Thanks for your comments and suggestions, Ann. I didn’t take Stan’s remark as criticism or scolding, just as

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Eric Weir wrote: > >> There are things that were said, though, that I did not hear. That is, >> didn’t understand. >> And probably am not going to understand when you explain it to me. What’s an >> “ISO

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 11:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of > weeks ago > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/i-PV5tG7C/XL Yep, that’s and evil sky. As Marco said,

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > In the early days of digital it was standard practice to apply some > amplification to the signal from the sensor prior to analog-to-digital > conversion. This was how one increased the ISO setting. It's still >

question for the list from a friend

A friend asked me this and I didn't have an answer, perhaps someone on the list has heard of this before? "I was wondering if you know anything about document cameras (i.e. rigs to photograph a large number of pages as an alternative to scanning). The idea is to use such a thing to convert many

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Eric Featherstone > wrote: > > A 50mm prime lens. Ah! Thanks, Eric. My “nifty-fifty” (35mm equivalent) is a 28—i.e., 28/2.8 Pentax, 27/2.8 Fuji. The Pentax lens was the only lens I used on my walk in England in 2013. Got lots of

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

Wow, NYC on fire! Very cool (hot). On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of > weeks ago > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2016-and-all-that/i-PV5tG7C/XL > >

Re: Exposure compensation

Eric Weir wrote: >There are things that were said, though, that I did not hear. That is, didn’t >understand. >And probably am not going to understand when you explain it to me. What’s an >“ISO invariant” camera? In the early days of digital it was standard practice to apply some

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

Yeah.. kinda why I didn't show it before thanks for the w d ann On 1/26/2017 12:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A dark mood to be sure. Well done. Paul via phone On Jan 25, 2017, at 11:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

thanks, Dan ann On 1/26/2017 12:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Dramatic shapes and colors! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot

Re: Peso : The Evil Sky

On 1/26/2017 12:18 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: How apropos. m Yup On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: taken the same evening as the Gaudy Sky that I showed you lot a couple of weeks ago

Re: Cropping

On 26 January 2017 at 14:13, Eric Weir wrote: >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> If Eric wants to crop less, he can do either what you suggest and read >> some serious texts on the matter, or he can simply practice something >>

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > If Eric wants to crop less, he can do either what you suggest and read > some serious texts on the matter, or he can simply practice something > like nifty-fifty for awhile, or both. What’s “nifty-fifty,” Boris. I

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:45 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > I read Stan's comment as a bit of a toungue in cheek admonishment. Thanks for your comments and suggestions, Ann. I didn’t take Stan’s remark as criticism or scolding, just as a jumping off place for my response. I am

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Pos That shoulda been “Zos”. (And now I see that spell-check did it.) -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we

Re: Cropping

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Two Magnum photographers I really like, who shoot fantastically good, complex > compositions, are Harry Gruyaert and Alex Webb. There used to be a whole load > of stuff showing grids overlaid on their work, discussing

Re: KP will not be the APS-C flagman?

On 26/1/17, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed: >The hat has spoken! Amen! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

KP will not be the APS-C flagman?

I usually do not go into speculations about Pentax plans, but here, the situation seems to be rather logical. (But who said that Pentax is always logical?!) It is very logical if KP is _not_ the flagman of the APS-C lineup. Based on the specs and trends, it sounds like it would be a

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > If you're in Program mode, the exposure compensation adjustment (the > +/- button + the rear dial on the K-5) moves the exposure the desired > number of stops up or down the program line; i.e. generally adjusts > both

Re: Exposure compensation

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > I never bother thinking about ETTR at all, ever. I just adjust > the exposure in post if I see fit. I’m glad to hear this. --

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >But "Mr. Phelps"? Who he? Actually Jim Phelps: -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Cropping

> On 26 Jan 2017, at 00:59, Ken Waller wrote: > > >...work with just one lens, to make it easier to concentrate on framing and > >composition. > > Don't see how that would work in outdoor/nature photography. > You're missing the point. People advised Eric about about