Going much higher would still be worthwhile. I can
see in some of my 6MP APS images with my best lenses
that the image is still at full contrast even in the finest
details and the image is suffering from pixelation
problems due to low res (6Mp on APS is nowhere even close
to enough for the best
Bill Gates : Nobody will ever need more than 640K of RAM.
jco
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Adam Maas wrote:
I
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
dont blame the messager for bad news.
I do not start
, February 15, 2007 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
No way Jose. I know that I did not engage in
any name calling to start this latest barrage
if vulgarities. I said
anybody know in what
waysm42screwmountingsystemissuperior toK mounting system?
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Well anybody know in what
waysm42screwmountingsystemissuperior
to K mounting system?
Finally. This is advantage number one (reference number
f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
YOU are giving me shit about asking if someone is crazy?
A personal attack is a personal attack, whether or not profanity is
involved. Virtually everything you post contains some sort
FYI, he never rebutted my post asking if he was crazy
and WHY I asked if he was crazy and EITHER DID YOU, WR.
jco
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Subject: Re: Well anybody know in what
waysm42screwmountingsystemissuperior toK mounting system?
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Well anybody know in what
waysm42screwmountingsystemissuperior
to K mounting system?
Finally
. It was never easy, and I always
envied the bayonet mount guys. Paul
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I already stated that no longer do it by feel, so you
just repeated what I said, but I dont agree that it
was as fast or faster doing
I am looking for a good, possibly all combined
into one, lens correction software program or
plug-in for photoshop CS. I have a Tokina 17mm
F3.5 lens that is otherwise excellent except
for a little barrel distortion I would like to
try to correct. I dont need the vignetting or
chromatic abberation
if your lens system had fully automatic apeture,
(I am not reffering to anything related to metering
which is a seperate issue),and you are using manual exposure,
(metering is not an issue) do you really think you
would be focussing and composing with the lens stopped
down if you didnt have to?
have to, I wouldn't. But I have to, and it's not a problem.
--
Bob
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Sent: 15 February 2007 21:38
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Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
if your lens
the trick there is that once the M42 lens reaches a certain
size ( around 300mm or larger ), you dont mount the
lens to the camera, you mount the camera to the lens
with the M42 screwmounting system. Its not as easy as
bayonet mounting but its much easier than trying to screw (rotate)
a large lens
see my later post, with large lenses you
point the lens' mount to the zenith
and rotate the body onto the lens instead
of what your suggesting here.
jco
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007
I never suggested mounting the body to the lens the way
described for BAYONET mount lenses, it makes no sense
in that context, I was referringt to mounting the body
to the lens with screwmount lenses only. I am not
saying nor did I ever say the screwmounting system
is better, I just stated that
I dont follow you with the Kmounting of large lenses to
K mount bodies. I was not referring to a body on a tripod
or the lens on a tripod. I was referring to mounting a
large kmount lens loose to a kmount bodie loose. Its easy
enough to just hold the body, insert and rotate the lens
instead of the
yes, you still do it ( m42) by feel, the same way you
do it in good light, there really is no point
in ever really looking at it, but its much easier to feel
that the lens barrel is approximately perpendicular
to the flange and start the threading by rotating
it, than it is to do a K mount by feel
thanks for the tips,
jco
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:28 PM
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Subject: Re: lens geometry/chromatic abberation/vignetting correction
software
For chromatic
NO, I don't/didn't agree with you because you were referring how
to mount the large lens/camera system to a tripod, not
how to mount a large lens to the camera which is what I
was talking about all along. In that context, the Kmounting
system doesnt really need or have much advantage to
mounting
look at the font of the front lettering
on the k 24/2.8 lens. It does not
match all the other K lenses and looks
the same as the m series lenses fonts.
jco
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007
for the m, so I suppose the
compromises they made were well done. Perhaps it is not quite as good
wide open? As soon as the weather breaks, I am going to find out how it
performs wide open.
Dave
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
The K28/2 was an all out expensive floating
element design which optimizes
it's missing is the metering stop-down
button.
-Adam
Who shoots M42 on Canon EOS with his ST's
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Sorry I cant help you out on that one, ( Just got
my own personal K28/2 sample a few months ago). I have a similar
goal, I am now collecting the entire K series lenses
of a $10 adaptor is for all intents and
purposes a M42 DSLR. All it's missing is the metering stop-down
button.
-Adam
Who shoots M42 on Canon EOS with his ST's
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Sorry I cant help you out on that one, ( Just got
my own personal K28/2 sample a few months ago). I have
No, he just doesnt understand how user friendly
automatic aperture M42 lenses can be and that
a Canon with a M42 adapter is not even close
to what a properly designed M42 DSLR would
be like to use. And he DID state that all the
Canon setup would be missing is a metering
button of some sort - W R O
functional than any M42 slr, courtesy of
offering TTL flash and fast motor drives, things that never existed on
M42 SLR's (winders yes, 5+fps, no).
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
it should be noted these adapaters will NOT
make the canon EOS into M42 DSLRS I was talking
about because they dont
of stop-down metering switch, which also uses
the auto-aperture function).
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I believe he is mistaken, you cannot get a M42
adapter that does auto aperture on M42 lenses
and thats what I was talking about, a M42
DSLR that has a real M42 mount and supports
auto
with an old Canon Rebel
XS, which gives me a winder, Aperture Priority AE and TTL flash, along
with a superior meter readout (LED imitation match needle). I find it
far more useful for most shooting than the old M42 SLR's.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
No, he just doesnt understand how user
, Aperture Priority AE and TTL flash, along
with a superior meter readout (LED imitation match needle). I find it
far more useful for most shooting than the old M42 SLR's.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
No, he just doesnt understand how user friendly
automatic aperture M42 lenses can
if the body doesn't do
auto-aperture and you do if the body does do auto-aperture. There's no
other reason for the stop-down button to exist.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
yes you did, you stated that :
All it's missing is the metering stop-down button.
This is not true or and its very
Godfrey is confusing M42 autoaperture
support with M42 AV autoexposure support.
The pentax DSLR bodies can do AV autoexposure
support but not autoaperture support which
sucks. But at least if you have the AV
autoexposure support its always accurate.
you will get correct exposure all the time
with fast lenses. Open aperture composition
just isn't a real issue for my shooting. But getting a 2-3 shot burst
is, and TTL flash is useful in other situations.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
this is really making no sense, what good is a fast winder
or motordrive, or ttl flash when you cant focus
: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
For the purposes of discussion, I think that we have to ASSUME that the
astronatut DID in fact KILL Anna Nichol.
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William Robb
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
this is really making
M42 DSLR's. They don't exist
and likely never will. 5D's and M42 adaptors exist and work quite well.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
you are clueless when it comes to M42 usage.
Auto aperture is a VER VERY IMPORTANT
and USEFUL SHOOTING FEATURE all by
itself and there are M42 bodies that dont
Of
William Robb
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
The whole point of my post is NOT about
old M42 bodies anyway, its about the
future
Not zero if you dont require it to be a Pentax made
M42 DSLR, and it wouldnt be...
jco
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
Bad eyesight? No way
anything you total bag of shit.
Now shut the fuck up and go die painfully.
g
On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:51 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Godfrey is confusing M42 autoaperture
support with M42 AV autoexposure support.
The pentax DSLR bodies can do AV autoexposure
support but not autoaperture support
Thats a total myth in my opinion. If you consider the
actual time to change the lens of M42 vs K its a few
seconds at most, and if you consider the actual time
of the whole process ( take old lens off, put caps
on front and rear, put back in lenscase/bag, get new
lens out of bag/lenscase, remove
that you can't understand simple English, but then I'm
not surprised either. Fuck off, eat shit, and wipe your chin after
having sex with your burro.
G
On Feb 14, 2007, at 2:57 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
GO FUCK YOURSELF and try reading your own
posts first before you give me any shit
: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
Bad eyesight? No way, I have 20-15 vision at normal
or far distances ( viewfinders are essentially
never been a working
photographer.
G
On Feb 14, 2007, at 3:16 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
... If you consider the
actual time to change the lens of M42 vs K its a few
seconds at most, and if you consider the actual time
of the whole process ( take old lens off, put caps
on front and rear, put
I didnt mean myself, I meant some other mfgr in the photo
industry. I guess you arent/werent aware that Pentax did
not invent M42 lenses and there were a whole bunch of
mfgrs that made M42 gear besides Pentax. Hell somebody
even made a new M42 film camera a few years ago, when
there was hardly any
the risk than miss the shot.
-Adam
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
It's obvious that this numbskull JCO has never been a working
photographer.
G
On Feb 14, 2007, at 3:16 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
... If you consider the
actual time to change the lens of M42 vs K its a few
seconds at most
Well,
Anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting system
is/was superior to the bayonet K mounting system?
I know at least two, and maybe somebody else knows
some more?
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better
(C) copyright 2007 JC O'Connell
If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen
( or dont post stupid shit ).
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anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting system
issuperior to K mounting system?
On 15/02/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well,
Anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting system
is/was superior to the bayonet K mounting system?
I know at least two, and maybe somebody else
PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
On Feb 14, 2007, at 4:59 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen
( or dont post stupid shit ).
Ah, now you are pummeling those who rise to your defense.
You are a piece of work, mr
Screw You Dude.
thats not what happened.
All I did was mention that someone was confusing
one function with another and they lost it and
started into a foul mouthed personal attack tirade
against me which I will always respond to in kind.
I did not start this kind of thing, I never do.
I only
: Well anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting
systemissuperior to K mounting system?
On 15/02/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well,
Anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting system
is/was superior to the bayonet K mounting system?
I know at least two, and maybe
: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Well anybody know in what ways m42 screwmounting system
issuperior to K mounting system?
All the lenses with an a/m switch have depth of field preview?
Dave
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Well,
Anybody know in what ways
Since all these Pentax DSLR bodies handle K/M/A lenses all the same
way, anybody have a clue as to why this would be true
if it is true? I could see where maybe some M42 lenses were
or were not shorting out pins on the bodies maybe making
some variations, but that would be variations due to the
this is getting very close ( a clue ) to one of the
superiorities of the screwmounting system.
joc
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William Robb
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Well
hi,
dont be confused by the K24/2.8. It'not a real
K lens, its just a later M lens they didnt designate
as M because of the size. The real K24 is the original
K24, the K24/3.5.
jco
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John Whittingham
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Subject: Re: Pentax K 28mm f2.0 Lens
The Canon 5D with the addition of a $10 adaptor is for all intents and
purposes a M42 DSLR. All it's missing is the metering stop-down button.
-Adam
Who shoots M42 on Canon EOS with his ST's
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Sorry I cant
havent tried mine ( K30/2.8 ) on digital, but
wow, it was good on film and the
view in the finder was spectacular.
(outstanding contrast and saturation).
jco
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Thibouille
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:22
The problem with the eyedropper technique is there is
not always a suitable spot to sample anywhere in the image.
Probably the best and safest way to ensure
a good white balance is to take an extra
shot under the same lighting w/ a neutral
gray card in scene and use that for auto white balance
Nobody came up with the answer to my quiz why
the Pentax Takumar Screw mount lenses were/are all
so good?
Answer : They were 200% optical bench tested
before being sold in USA. Thats right, 200%.
Every single final assembled Takumar Lens
was optically bench tested at the Asahi
factory in Japan
The K28/2 was an all out expensive floating
element design which optimizes image quality
at all focussing distances and apertures,
the M28/2 was not. The M28/2 was compromised
for price and much smaller size/weight considerations instead.
The K28/2 is most unusual for a 28mm lens,
it has a barrel
/are all so good?
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Nobody came up with the answer to my quiz why
the Pentax Takumar Screw mount lenses were/are all
so good?
Answer : They were 200% optical bench tested
before being sold in USA. Thats right, 200%.
Every single final assembled Takumar Lens
yes, but so were zoom lenses when pentax introduced
their first zooms but Pentax first zooms are excellent
and dont bark. I still say they screwed up on that first 20mm.
jco
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Sent: Tuesday,
Do you remember the model number of this thingy?
And do you know if it fits/works on all Pentax DSLRs?
I think I might try one too.
jco
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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:01 PM
To:
what I dont understand is if you put the light gray
card in a shot to use for adjusting the WB or color
balance later in post processing, how do you transfer
the correct adjustment ( settings? ) to the next image ( the desired
image)
that doesnt have the light gray card in the scene?
jco
,
appears to
be pretty rare.
John
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Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:04 AM
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Sendt: 12. februar 2007 03:51
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Emne: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image
quality?)
color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue.
jco
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Sorry I cant help you out on that one, ( Just got
my own personal K28/2 sample a few months ago). I have a similar
goal, I am now collecting the entire K series lenses
to go along with my entire SMCT lens series. A few Ms
and As too, but not collecting those series. I bet
collecting the entire A
right about the quality and feel of these lenses, even pentax folks who
only are into the more recent digital offerings owe themselves to have
an smc tak or two.
Dave
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Sorry I cant help you out on that one, ( Just got
my own personal K28/2 sample a few months ago). I
Lens
J. C. O'Connell wrote on Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:08:48 -0800
Sorry I cant help you out on that one, ( Just got
my own personal K28/2 sample a few months ago). I have a similar goal,
I am now collecting the entire K series lenses to go along with my
entire SMCT lens series. A few Ms
Not arguing with you about the K200/2.5 but that is a fast FF lens,
which is going to be much bigger and heavier than a slow APS (DA) zoom
250mm lens
I would think.
jco
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Bruce Dayton
Sent: Saturday, February
Yes, The registration distance for Canon FD is too short with the
original FD mount still attached. Seems what Collin is proposing is
hacking
off the original mount so infinity focus may still be possible
with a Pentax K or M42 adapter/mount installed if enough of the original
mount is/can be
Your conclusion is most likely correct based on overall experiences
with these cameras, but I would question a few things in this specific
test
procedure. The exact same lens should be used on both cameras and the
images should
be tweeked on one of the cameras via fine bracketing for exposure
yes, but by using two different lenses (even of same model) you
may be seeing variations due to the lens both optically and
mechanically( fstop variation causing exposure variation). This
along with possible shutter speed variations from body to body
is why I suggested you should have fine
af J.
C. O'Connell
Sendt: 11. februar 2007 14:16
Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Emne: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image
quality?)
Your conclusion is most likely correct based on overall experiences with
these cameras, but I would question a few things in this specific
One cool feature that an electronic finder could do that
an optical finder cant is a digital zoom EVF. this is
possible because the sensors are far more resolving than
the EVF are at this point (or forever?). You could push
a button on the body to activate it and the viewfinder
could zoom in, say
color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue.
jco
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Digital Image Studio
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds
Doesnt sound that logical to me unless its removable.
DA lenses are generally small and light (compared to 35mm) and I really
dont see
why they would want to add weight to the lens all
the time for that, especially in light of AS technologies.
With regards to the NEED for the tripod mount, its
Are you guys talking about usage on 35mm (FF) or APS
digital?
jco
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Gianfranco Irlanda
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:22 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Lens question
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I forgot to mention this on some of the earlier threads
concerning old vs new lenses. One of the reasons why
many of the early pentax lenses ( late screwmounts
and early K/M) mounts are so damn good is due to sample
to sample variations ( or lack thereof! ). Not only was the
build quality higher
THESE SERVICE MENUS CAN BE VERY USEFUL!
Anybody know if the earlier other model cameras
like the istD DS DL DS2 DL2 K100D K110D have one and
how to access them?
If the AF system is menu servicable, other
important things may be too, LIKE SYSTEM
SENSITIVITY (metering) etc. I want to know.
And
CORRECTION- are you OR are you not?
William Robb is still avoiding answering
that simple question of course, because
it makes one of his big arguments wrong
no matter which way he answers
jco
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mike
its a simple editing error, whats childish about that?
Still waiting for your answer WR,. ( should have read are you OR are you
not?)
jco
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William Robb
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:12 AM
To:
: NO FS this Friday?
It seems most of what you post is a simple editing error. The rest
is abject stupidity.
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 8:17 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
its a simple editing error, whats childish about that?
Still waiting for your answer WR,. ( should have read are you OR
are you
Well if you cant or wont refute my posts based on the topic, you just
posting
these dumb off topic insult only posts after the fact that dont address
the issues/posts
directly adds nothing to the discussion but wasted time having to
respond to them.
If you really dont care, then just dont post at
rational discussion?
laughable notion.
JCO Filter switched back on. Bye bye.
G
On Feb 9, 2007, at 10:11 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
[more useless drivel]
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yep, I meant comparing instead of using.
Thanks for the clarification request.
jco
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:19 AM
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Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
you
If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR,
I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage
of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have
a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you dont or have
to, or need to buy all new ones, I would go with canon
as they have more bodies/lenses to choose from and
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William Robb
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday
] On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR,
I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main
All those features mentioned below by Godrey DiGiorgi
will not make ANY DA/APS lens/format perform as well as a really good
FF pentax Lens ( even some of the SMCT screwmounts over
30 years old ) on a good FF camera in terms of sheer
image quality. This is what I have been talking about
in the
I think you are confusing some of the DA lenses doing a
better job of rendering images vs FF lenses
on DSLRs with doing a better job of rendering images vs
FF lenses on APS DSLRs. I will say it again,
I believe that some, possibly most prime FF Pentax lenses, can and will
give
a better result on
the old lenses show on APS
sensors would be even more evident on the large ones.
DagT
Den 8. feb. 2007 kl. 08.31 skrev J. C. O'Connell:
these lenses are not really superb or better
lenses in terms of overall image quality capability,
the DA lenses are actually worse I would venture
to say
Not completely, if you dont have the right
focal length lens ( proper angle of view ) for
a given scene, you cant get full control of the composition.
Either you have to use zooms or a bunch of
primes if you want to maintain best image
quality for a given composition (POV). This is
why I seriously
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Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Screw you, I know more about what I was talking
about and what I posted than you do.
Nice that you think so.
Dag, Godfrey and myself all seem to have experienced something that
disagrees with you
Thats what I have already posted about a dozen times!
jco
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NOPE- I stand by what I stated fully. I say that the
some of the FF lenses, even really old ones, will
be able to create higher quality images than even
the very best DA/APS systems, on a good FF digital
K mount body!
Yes, some lenses will have issues with perpendicularity
(most noticably wide
Wrong again, your confusing digital term when
you should be using APS digital term.
This brings up a VERY important issue and
I would like to here from everyone who
has any experience on the matter please,
WHICH PENTAX FF LENSES have you had a problem
with like WR states here? (and on which dslr
What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS
his earlier strong opposite position in another long thread where I
stated that
in general, 35mm lenses are sharper than MedFormat lenses and
he took me to task in saying that I was wrong. Nice try,
William Robb. Have you now changed
~45
f/4 edge performance blew it away at 20mm.
Jack
--- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wrong again, your confusing digital term when
you should be using APS digital term.
This brings up a VERY important issue and
I would like to here from everyone who
has any experience
at this point
jco
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From: J. C. O'Connell
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what is the Tav exposure mode( how does it operate)?
jco
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It's one of those things that I
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