Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/weddinggalleriesprivate/bean/images/Bean02
> > > 59.jpg
> >
> >
> > My favourite (and difficult to make).
>
> Why difficult?
>
> Honest question,
A question for Tanja I suspect, but for my part I liked them all, this one
above the others
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
> Kostas, it was Malcolm Smith who wrote that, and not I.
> However... despite its seemingly simple nature, it was indeed
> a difficult shot to make, but probably not for reasons that
> Malcolm even realises. Firstly, I was on the other side
Bruce Dayton wrote:
> I had the same thought when I saw that one.
Shel wrote:
> SB> Get those trees outta there. Looks like big antlers growing from
> SB> the bride's head.
>
> SB> Malcolm Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/weddinggalleriesprivate/bean/images/Bean0259.jpg
My favourite (and difficult to make).
Malcolm
William Robb wrote:
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2786.html
The eyes. Not sure about this one. Umm!
Malcolm
Nick Clark wrote:
> I find I still enjoy film more despite all the advantages of
> digital. It's something about the MZ-S which I find
> ergonomically superior to the *ist-D, although that could be
> because I'm not yet used to the latter. I haven't yet got the
> lenses for the 1.5 multiplier
frank theriault wrote:
> http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/pages/FrankTheriault.htm
Is this available in milk chocolate?
Happy Easter, Frank and all PDMLers.
Malcolm
Robert wrote:
> As of Thursday we have another *istD. One for me, one for my wife :-D
>
> Are we the first to have 2 *istDs?
Good question? It's certainly something my wife and I have spoken of and
would guarantee me access to one. I can certainly appreciate why some people
have changed from fi
frank theriault wrote:
> Taken last autumn, when I went apple picking with the kids,
> this is my youngest Claire:
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2269307
>
> Just a family snap, but I'd still like to hear what you
> think. This is proof that:
>
> a) I do shoot colour someti
Graywolf wrote:
> Boy am I glad I am out of the work force. Did I ever mention
> the time I got a bad work review, so I just quit trying to do
> my job. Just came in, sat there, and was friendly to
> everyone. Ignored the job description completely. Did no
> actual work. They told me how much
Keith Whaley wrote:
> When something is done incorrectly, and there's only two ways
> to do it, right and wrong, there IS a wrong way.
> Now, it's up to the "boss" or supervisor or parent, or
> whomever, to soft pedal the word and insist that it be done correctly.
>
> I think you're trying to a
frank theriault wrote:
> Well, Malcolm, you're right. The culture of "I just want
> this off my desk"
> should change. Problem, it's not so easy a fix as one might
> think. With the advent of computers, receptionists must now
> be much more than a pretty face to smile at the business men
>
Graywolf wrote:
> Maybe what is needed is for everyone to place their order,
> then when they say they can not ship the way you want, tell
> them to cancel it. I think only a lot of canceled orders are
> likely to reach management's ears. Just not ordering will not
> get to them.
>
> B&H now
frank theriault wrote:
> UPS won't dump the residential deliveries, because they want
> to be "Your One Stop Courier Company". They want
> secretaries, rececptions and mail room guys to have one
> courier company on their speed dial, for all their needs.
Whichever company delivers 'whatever t
William Robb wrote:
> And in who's world does a company not carry liability insurance as
> standard procedure?
> They are paying for it, whether or not they make claims.
> It's a complete fallacy to think that companies don't take use of
> liability insurance into account when they are setting up
William Robb wrote:
> They have decided that it is more profitable to screw up and lose the
> delivery. Their insurance coughs up the replacement cost, and in all
> likelyhood they will "deliver" the replacement.
> It's called profiting from ones mistakes, and they have elevated it
> to a business
Graywolf wrote:
> Ah the old toss it in the trash trick.
>
> When I was in the Air Force a long long while back my parents
> decided to toss out those boxes of old books I had, including
> a first edition of "The Swiss Family Robinson". On the one
> hand, I had only paid 99 cents for it. On th
Robert Mapson wrote:
> That's it - First of April! ;-D
Thought about today's date after I posted it, but sadly this isn't a joke,
it happened yesterday :-(
Malcolm
In the hope that the following is a one off piece of delivery genius:
One of my friends had a parcel delivered by Parcelforce yesterday. He wasn't
in, but was expecting an expensive eBay purchase from Australia (a book).
Instead of trying next door, the delivery driver put a note through his
lette
Steve Desjardins wrote:
> One more time, complete with URL:
>
> http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/
Great composition, really like this one.
Malcolm
Veteran BBC broadcaster and writer Alistair Cooke has died at
his home in New York, aged 95.
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3581465.stm
This morning, whilst changing lenses, I noticed a black spec on the mirror.
Having carefully cleaned it, I put the lens back on and saw another and
anotherthe dreaded black snow of disintegrating foam. So far the
purchase and maintenance costs of this camera have worked out to approx GBP
0.015
Nick Clark wrote:
> I've yet to fathom the need for a slide duplicator for a
> digital camera. Isn't a film scanner better?
Yes.
If you have one that is. Otherwise a slide duplicator.
Malcolm
Nick Clark wrote:
> Just thought I'd let you all know about a success. I 've had
> a picture of bees printed in the UK publication Photography
> Monthly, April issue. It's as part of a portfolio from
> Edmonton Camera Club.
>
> They should be sending us some films as payment.
>
> Woohoo is th
frank theriault wrote:
> Actually, I do many of my own bike repairs. That's one thing
> about track bikes - not much to go wrong/replace. A new
> chain (I have a chain breaker) every couple of months or so
> (time to get one, BTW), along with a daily clean and oil of
> the chain is about it.
Jim Apilado wrote:
> Remember when we were all inconvenience using film? I use
> both. I have friends that love getting pictures in envelopes
> addressed to them. It is more personal.
Our family is scattered about, some of which like the immediate
participation of digital photos. Some of the
frank theriault wrote:
> Non sequitor: Speaking of mantras, my sister gave me a
> t-shirt for Christmas, which says: "I'm kind of like a
> superhero, with no powers or motivation". Kind of sums up my
> life. My sister knows me all too well.
You're NOT 'Bicycle Repair Man'?
Malcolm
Aric wrote:
> This is the bike I ride.
>
> http://www.haluzak.com/products/horizon.htm
>
> The feature which attracted me to this particular model is
> user "X-Seam"
> adjustment at the crank, not at the seat. (X-Seam is the
> distance from a wall to your heel, when sitting on the floor
> wi
Graywolf wrote:
> Heck, Frank, get yourself an ordiary (Penny-Farthing) and
> watch the wrecks as they all forget they are driving in
> traffic and stare at you. (grin)
Stopping and starting them is the problem. I had one success out of three
attempts at riding one twenty plus years ago (when I
http://www.atomiczombie.com/
>From London 'Metro' newspaper 10th March '04.
Auction website eBay's payment service has agreed to hand over £82,000
compensation after admitting it misled shoppers into believing it offered
credit card-style protection. PayPal struck the deal after eBay customers
found they were not entitled to
Hi Mark,
>Well I have a K2 for sale. LN condition. $150.00
I'm negotiating a swap of my ME-Super for one at the moment. It gets around
the current 'no more cameras' embargo!
Malcolm
Nick Clark wrote:
> My understanding is that the problems with PayPal are on the
> seller's side, so there's no reason why someone can't use it to pay.
I've known payments to go missing for a while. I also don't like paying a
percentage on top to cover fees, as many sellers do. None of my eBay
p
Mark Erickson wrote:
> So what's on your list?
Pentax 67II
Pentax K2
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
> You're right, I do need something fast for my LX, though.
So do I. A Murcielago would be about right ;-)
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2188556
>
> I'd really like to hear your comments on this one.
Shocked and stunned of London, UK writes:
Brilliant. I love the way as a spectator you are 'caught in the moment'. No
real shock value anymore, but I wonder what c
Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I shot this at a concert with my nearly silent 1953 Leica
> IIIf RD and Summicron 50/2 collapsible. The film was Ilford
> Delta 3200, rated at 1600. The exposure was f2.8 @ 1/25 It's here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2188979&size=lg.
Caught the atmosphe
Cotty wrote:
> Malc, external USB floppy disk drives can be purchased and
> will work on a Mac as well as a PC. May I make a suggestion?
> If you have a computer, I would hope that you would be
> backing up at the very least all the user data you create?
Oh yes! Having learnt the hard way, onc
Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Zip disks or what they now call "Jump drives" are the ticket.
> The jump drives are really just a SD card or some such with
> the USB interface. All you do is plug it in and you have an
> instant drive.
> If you need more permanence then the zip disks work quite
> well.
Christian wrote:
> How about the Leica Digital back for the R-8 and R-9?
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp
ERN wrote:
> > Unless you specifically meant an SLR, I hear Leica & Panasonic have
> produced
> > such an animal.
> >
> > http://www.leica-camera.com/digital
Cotty wrote:
> I received this silly email as well. It contained a Zip file
> that needed a code to unzip it, containing an exe file. I
> followed the instructions and unzipped the attachment and
> looked at the exe file. I shrugged my shoulders and deleted it.
>
> And some people wonder why I
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:
> I have tried:
> *istD + M42/K adaptor + Pentax Auto-Bellow (screw) + SMC
> Takunar 1.4/50 (and 1.8/55, screw, normal or reverse) +
> Pentax Slide-Copier Post 2:
> Not full frame, approximately 20x30mm with 1.4/50mm Post 3:
> I tried two new tests:
> - with SMC 2/55mm:
Mark Roberts wrote:
> >> I think the T-90 would be an excellent walnut shell
> cracker. Though
> >> it might pulverize them too much.
> >
> >T90, hell, get an F1--either old or new type. If you're not a Canon
> >guy get a Nikon F2. In either case there's enough mass that
> a flick of
> >th
William Robb wrote:
> Could you reprt back about what your solution was to get a full frame
> copy?
Hi Bill,
It's this PAW idea (thanks Shel) that makes me want to do it. I have no
scanner at present and this seems like the obvious way to get a slide I can
provide a link to. Most of my work need
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd forgotten how nifty the LX is. It's smaller and lighter
> than I remembered, and yet feels very solid and well built.
> The finder is very bright, especially compared to the
> spotmatics. Compared to the K2 and Spot F I was fiddling
> with earlier in the day t
Tanja wrote:
> The Newspaper deadline I was talking about? I got a front page
A bit behind with my mail, so this is great to read - fantastic.
> Well, bugger me dead, I just went to the newsagents, and look
> what I found!!
I hope that means something different on your side of the globe
frank theriault wrote:
> I liked the Charger Daytonas, with the high rear wing and the
> "nosecone".
> One of the more outrageous cars that Detroit has ever produced.
>
> IIRC, the Dodge Charger Daytona, and it's corporate sister,
> the Plymouth Roadrunner were produced in relatively limited
Comments/criticism welcome.
This is a REAL car
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2153283&size=lg
Coming Through
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2153308&size=lg
Penguin
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2153327&size=lg
The Race
http://www.photo.net/photodb/pho
First weeks picture from me then!
This was taken 30m from my house, about a couple of minutes after it broke
and started taking the road surface away. I had time to take this before a
thunderstorm broke but I still got wet running back to the house. The road
was closed for about three and a half d
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/robs-pic.jpg
With bottom and top cropped.
It's incredible how much difference that makes.
Malcolm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Good grief, that's way worse than
> http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/wound.jpg
>
> although, my picture was taken with a Pentax (Optio 550) ERN
Ouch! Is their a pain PUG coming up?
Malcolm
Bob S. wrote:
http://www.members.aol.com/rfsindg/Paw2-5.jpg
Graphic detail capture excellent. Hurts to look at!
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
Hi Frank,
> Well, it has a "wall of somthing" look about it, eh?
>
> Funny, but the guy wasn't going very fast at all - I mean
> look at the bike he's riding, pulling a trailer, and all
> bundled up with winter clothes. It was freaking cold that
> day, IIRC, and he w
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Thanks. Table top can be a lot of fun. You don't have to pay
the models and nobody complains that you're taking too long.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2145098&size=lg
Tasty! The arrangement of the lemons and knife makes this. Very different
from the lemon
Dag T wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2145549
This is the sort of picture which advertisers use - and the viewer is left
wondering what the product will be. I like the use of colour. Thought
provoking.
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2142532
It has a 'wall of death' type of look about it. Unusual.
Malcolm
Shel wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/puffy.html
I love the detail of this photo - but I have found pictures without some
sort of scale to measure things by alarm people. We all know how big a
squirrel is, but is it that without some sort of reference, it could be as
though it was t
Nick Clark wrote:
> Just made a speculative bid on eBay for a brand new body
> only, not expecting to get it - unfortunately I won it for
> £732.56! How do I tell my wife?
>
> Help!
Nice!
If your wife reacts like mine to the camera, you'll only see it once in a
while anyway. She thinks it's g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A couple of years ago I bought a 6X7 kit, a body, four lenses
> and various filters and hoods all in good condition. The body
> is an early model with no MLU; I had it serviced by Harrow Technical.
>
> I'm amazed by the quality of the big negs, I've had no
> trouble
I don't know where to start with this one Frank!
> Pentax used to make a pro toaster. They still make several
> medium sized multi slice toasters that are used my pros, but
> in the smaller two-slice toaster, they have concentrated on
> the domestic market ever since the advent of electronic
Norm Baugher wrote:
> Just cruising around Ebay, checking them out, haven't done it
> in a while. Man, have prices come down!
Yet there is one piece of Pentax MF equipment which eludes me. For the
sixth time yesterday, I lost an eBay item for this thing (I won't mention
what) and now it's two t
William Robb wrote:
> Because within 5 years you won't be able to get film for
> it?
I saw some rotten devil sending his girlfriend into the local camera shop to
get film for his Optio 550.
Malcolm
Buy the LX. Best camera I've ever owned, including the *ist D. If Pentax had
produced a LX-D
Bob W wrote:
> UK:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1226423.stm
>
> US:
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/dennis.asp
>
> (not very menacing)
Ah!
Thanks to Bob W & John F.
Malcolm
Boris Liberman wrote:
> >What do I really need as a hobby photographer? Two film
> bodies, a few
> >prime lenses, flash, bag, tripod and a few low value accessories.
> >Anything else is non essential. Justification of *any*
> additional items
> >isn't a road to go downespecially for me...
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
So, why do people feel they have to justify digital.
Regardless of anyone's feelings about it, it's just a
camera, a tool for a job, for the hobbyist or family snap
shooter something that gives one pleasure, maybe makes
getting final prints easier or faster. I don't get
William Robb wrote:
> Around here, the change seemed to happen mid 1980's, not
> long after autofocus became mainstream.
Many thanks to everyone for the replies on this subject. That's what happens
when you don't buy a camera for 19 years. Still, I've made up for that now
;-)
Malcolm
A question I have wanted to ask for a while. When I first bought my MXs 20
years + ago, the choice offered was simple; a camera body or a 50mm lens
option (or whatever lens you wanted).
Sometime in between there came a change.
I acquired the *ist D with the 18-35mm and realised I hadn't seen a pr
Cotty wrote:
> As far as still photography goes, I don't usually shoot (for
> pleasure) in places that might be contentious. I don't do
> buildings etc. Shopping precincts (malls) are a specialty for
> shit-hot security guards ready to pounce etc etc over here
> also.
Photography outdoors is
William Robb wrote:
> My present heavyweight is the Manfrotto 028, which seems
> good under the 6x7, though the Zone VI Standard is still
> the best tripod I have used.
> I am a big fan of wood tripods.
Having compared the specification between the 055 and 028, I can see why.
Now to compare price
John Francis wrote:
> Nor, for that matter, does using film somehow make you more
> of a real photographer than using digital. It's not the
> equipment - it's the eye behind the viewfinder, and the mind
> behind the eye, that count.
I most certainly agree.
Some people on this list - say She
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Absolutely more innocent ... it's becoming more and more
> difficult to photograph kids in this way. Their parents are
> afraid that a stranger may be more than just a "wandering
> minstrel photographer." In some neighborhoods around here
> parents won't even let thei
mike wilson wrote:
> Just managed to enviegle a pause in my slaving over house
> alterations from "she who must be obeyed". Who does indeed
> appear to have an inexhaustible requirement for Vim.
You can still get VIM??
> 2. My favourite for this month is Jostein's moss shot.
> Sharp, detai
frank theriault wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069017
Way to go, Frank!
Malcolm
frank theriault wrote:
> I just thought that Canon fitted the bill better than Leica.
> You know, people buying Canon's because that's what they see
> guys on the sidelines of major sporting events using on TV.
> This is not meant as a criticism of Canons higher end pro
> stuff, which is won
wendy beard wrote:
> >I sold all my film bodies (including my beloved LX and 3
> MXs) to buy the D.
> >And I couldn't be happier.
> >
> >Christian
>
> **THUD** (that's me fainting). You sold ALL your MXes. Oh, I
> could ~never~ be happy without my MX(es) Hmmm. I'd sell the
> LX though. Anyone
Norm Baugher wrote:
> For those who have purchased the sunkist, and are relative
> "digital newbies" - how has this affected your film camera
> usage? E.g. when I bought my 6x7, my 35mm shooting went down
> by about 75%. Just curious...
35mm B&W - same level
35mm Slide - up 20%
67 - same le
A little problem.
I took the *ist D & FAJ 18-35 up to the school and took some pictures,
during which I got caught in a snowball fight but unfortunately the lens
took the full impact of one. At the time I wiped it clean with a lens cloth
and thought no more of it, as classes were starting. When I
graywolf wrote:
> Yes they do.
>
> But when it is on a mailing list sponsered by Pentax, there
> are liability issues involved. On a public list, as the PDML
> is now, they don't have to worry about it.
>
> "Our Johnny read, on the Official Pentax Mailing list, how to
> modify his strobe, st
Lon Williamson wrote:
> I only know what Doug put on the PDML home page.
> Look around a bit there.
>
> >
> > I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were
> > the reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?
Within moments I was e-mailed the definitive posting off l
Lon Williamson wrote:
> Yeah, hats off to Adelheid and Jostein.
Certainly!!
> Pentax USA used to host this list. I understand why they
> dropped it.
I've only known PDML in the capable hands of Doug Brewer. What were the
reasons Pentax gave for discontinuing the list?
Malcolm
Cotty wrote:
Sensurround and loads of popcorn :-)
My goodness; the last time I heard the word sensurround, it was in a record
by the "Sex Pistols".
Malcolm
Note 1# "Sex Pistols" were a punk group of the previous century.
Note 2# "Record" is a primitive recording medium superseded by the CD & D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So, here's a poll:
> How many shots so far with your *ist D?
>
> I'm at 1565
>
> I'm SURE I'm mid to low on the list.
201. Not bad really on how often I see it (mutters). The other user has
pushed it well into 4 figures.
Malcolm
frank theriault didn't type:
>
>
>
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.
> The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Yet another darn commercial!
Malcolm
Nick Clark wrote:
> Hi Malcolm
> The King and Tinker is actually in Whitewebbs Lane. It's at
> the opposite end of the golf course to the Rose and Crown, to
> the right of Whitewebbs House, which is now a restaurant. If
> you come out of the drive to Whitewebbs House, turn right,
> it's in the
frank theriault does it again:
> One of the guests knew of a cafe/restaurant that is always
> looking for new art, and he said he'd give them a call to see
> if he could hook us up. So, I went to meet with the cafe
> owner last night, portfolio in hand, and he liked it. Wants
> 12 pieces up
Mark Cassino wrote:
> Anyhow - I have to say it was a lot of fun. Projected
> slides - even at a decent size (I projected mine to 4 feet on
> the long axis and sat about 8 feet away) look a lot better
> than scanned slides. Projecting seems to be much more
> forgiving than scanning, especia
Cotty wrote:
> Interestingly, I haven't seen many for sale. Not in dealers'
> ads in AP, nor on eBay. I think most people buying these
> cameras have considered the facts and are not going to
> stomach the heavy loss in selling used. If you've bought a
> D60 for £1600 (me) then you're (me) har
Bob W wrote:
> The nearest plague pit to me that I know of is in Deptford,
> about 1.5 miles away in the church of St. Nicholas. The great
> Christopher Marlowe was thrown into the pit after he was
> murdered, and remains there to this day. People are not
> inclined to open plague pits.
Which
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> Wondering how far back you consider "old" to be :)
Anything before the launch of the *ist D, is sooo last century ;-)
Malcolm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hmm. That brings up another point -- not all buildings that
> ought to have been preserved are lost to "progress".
> Especially in the US, an awful lot of historical buildings
> were made of wood, less durable than stone. It's still
> tragic to lose history, even
William Robb wrote:
> We have a lot of excess land here that can be used as parking
> lots that you
> in the UK just don't have.
True.
> Not that we should be turning excess land into parking lots, mind you.
Well said.
Malcolm
Amita Guha wrote:
> > Government won't pay. People will argue about the funding and never
> > agree on a suitable re-location.
>
> What about an organization like the National Trust stepping in?
The National Trust is a charitable organisation who rely on property being
'given' to them, generall
Bill Owens wrote:
> Here in the USA, airport parking lots are an airport's
> largest source of income.
Here in the UK, particularly airports like Gatwick, Heathrow and Stanstead
have astonishingly good bus, coach and rail links (and Underground to
central London in the case of Heathrow) and unle
Cotty wrote:
> In a word, no. Stanstead is a 2 hour drive for me and way
> over in a different TV region. The whole Stanstead thing will
> be VERY contentious over the coming years. It's a nest of vipers.
Yep. This one is set to run and run...
> Problem is, air travel is increasing and there
Bob W wrote:
Hi Bob,
> thanks. Do they have an option for cut & sleeve on the 35mm
> E6, or is it just mounted?
As Steve Jolly has already replied, that option is available.
> Why do you use someone different for your c41?
Late 2001/early 2002 I was going through many rolls of film and decid
Nick Clark wrote:
> Cameraworld have it at £1079.99, or £1199.99 with 18-35 FAJ lens.
It's a good bit cheaper than when I acquired one, but it's also the first
time that hasn't concerned me. It's already earned it's keep in terms of
images it's captured.
Malcolm
Nick Clark wrote:
> The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged
> carry anywhere kit
There are a few here that carry this combination; mine lives in a coat
pocket.
Malcolm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I started about 3 years ago in my area.I'm mostly rural with
> the ever present urban sprawl only a few concessions away to
> my rear(south) I started taking pictures,mostly winter B&W
> of farm properties,old houses and barns,old farm impliments etc.
> Now that i hav
Bob W wrote:
> has anybody used these people for E6 or C41 processing? If
> so, what are they like, please?
I started using Dlab7 a couple of years ago and they now do all my E6
processing. Great prices from them as they are based in Guernsey, so small
exports attract no dreaded VAT.
For C41, I
William Robb wrote:
> > That is both amazing and very sad. Who on earth would throw
> away a Triumph
> > Bonneville, let alone two of them?
>
> A better question is, who in their right mind would buy one
> in the first
> place?
I like British motorbikes, my late father used to have a Vincent B
1401 - 1500 of 1871 matches
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