(I created my own Mac web browser in
about 15 minutes, using only tools included with the OS).
Amazing. Just writing an HTML parser can take several days
if not weeks. That leaves out the rendering engine, scripting,
security and more.
But Window's issues are a combination of poor design on
I've tried DNG with Aperture, and then looked it up in the Apple
Knowledge Base. which confirmed my findings. Aperture only supports
DNG's created from RAW's from supported Cameras. Which defeats much of
the purpose of DNG.
-Adam
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 11, 2006, at 1:59 AM,
Gautam Sarup wrote:
(I created my own Mac web browser in
about 15 minutes, using only tools included with the OS).
Amazing. Just writing an HTML parser can take several days
if not weeks. That leaves out the rendering engine, scripting,
security and more.
It's all there in the
Mark Roberts wrote:
People just tend to prefer what they're most used to and always
get the most accomplished with the least effort on that platform.
A rather similar idea in physics (and in science in general) is expressed
like this:
If someone claims that he understands some particular
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
http://www.apple.com/imac/
I don't know if it is good for Apple or not, but less and less divides PC
and Macs - now it is essentially only Software. I guess hackers will sooner
or later have a version of OSX working on any PC :-P
--
Balance is the ultimate
The iMac looks great, although those of us in Europe
have to pay alot more (1349, or $1600 compared to
$1299 in the States. Ouch).
I look forward to being able to dual-boot between
Windows and OSX as well. Although I do fear that
productivity would plummet, as I will be tempted to
boot into
On 11/1/06, Yuan-Juhn Chiao, discombobulated, unleashed:
I look forward to being able to dual-boot between
Windows and OSX as well. Although I do fear that
productivity would plummet, as I will be tempted to
boot into WinXP for games :)
Blocked by Apple through hardware and/or software. More
Yuan-Juhn Chiao wrote on 11.01.06 10:48:
The iMac looks great, although those of us in Europe
have to pay alot more (1349, or $1600 compared to
$1299 in the States. Ouch).
I look forward to being able to dual-boot between
Windows and OSX as well. Although I do fear that
productivity
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
I guess hackers will sooner
or later have a version of OSX working on any PC :-P
There is one. It's called BSD. :-) Been running on my PCs for years.
--
Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net
Yuan-Juhn Chiao wrote:
I look forward to being able to dual-boot between
Windows and OSX as well. Although I do fear that
productivity would plummet, as I will be tempted to
boot into WinXP for games :)
dual boot? bah! VMWare! :-)
--
Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net
Christian wrote on 11.01.06 11:16:
There is one. It's called BSD. :-) Been running on my PCs for years.
Yes. It is almost like OSX. Almost makes a big difference - just like in
advertising of Polish beer Zywiec ;-)
--
Balance is the ultimate good...
Best Regards
Sylwek
Cotty wrote on 11.01.06 10:54:
Blocked by Apple through hardware and/or software. More info available
after the hackers do their bit.
Exactly, it's just a matter of time :-) All the blocks/keys and so on are
good only for average user to deny him some illegal actions ;-)
--
Balance is the
Op Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:20:45 +0100 schreef Sylwester Pietrzyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Christian wrote on 11.01.06 11:16:
There is one. It's called BSD. :-) Been running on my PCs for years.
Yes. It is almost like OSX. Almost makes a big difference - just like
in advertising of Polish beer
On 11 Jan 2006 at 10:20, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
http://www.apple.com/imac/
I don't know if it is good for Apple or not, but less and less divides PC
and Macs - now it is essentially only Software. I guess hackers will sooner
or later have a version of
Oh I've always liked rosetta, expecially with salam inside (this was
when I was a child, and my grandmother used to prepare it for me in
the mid afternoon. Now I'm vegetarian).
Rosetta, here in Italy, is a kind of bread
;)
ciao
Danilo.
On Jan 11, 2006, at 1:20 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
... I don't know if it is good for Apple or not, but less and less
divides PC
and Macs - now it is essentially only Software. ...
As it should be ... the Software is really what matters. Given near
equal capabilities, the hardware
On Jan 11, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
We'll have to wait and see how fast and good emualation of Power PC
code is?
So far Apple announced that their own applications: Aperture, Final
Cut
Studio 1, Logic Pro 7.1 - will require an update, because they
don't work
under
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 11.01.06 16:28:
As it should be ... the Software is really what matters. Given near
equal capabilities, the hardware matters not at all. I would happily
run Linux rather than Windows if Apple tanked (fat chance ... Apple
stock outperformed Google this past year) ...
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 11.01.06 16:33:
I think the key isn't that they couldn't be made to run on Rosetta,
the key is that these are high performance applications that Apple
sells to the professional marketplace... people who make money using
them. People who buy these high-end
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess hackers will sooner or later have a version of OSX working on any PC
:-P
That would be the best thing for Apple in the long run. Their insistence
on a monopoly on hardware has held them back for a long time.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography
True. I'm not a die hard fan of Apple, but just after working for 12 years
with Mac OS computers I can say that I have always liked the way it works
much better than Windows.
Back in high school and through most of my undergrad, I was a
die-hard mac guy. I got tired of all the promises of the
Just curious ... how so?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Windows gives me a headache:
it gets in the way of doing what I want the
computer to do more times than not.
On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
I just hope that universal applications will be
available a little longer than fat ones as it was during m68k -
Power PC
change.
Universal in the sense of Mac OS X is somewhat different from what
fat in that era meant. Both the OS
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Just curious ... how so?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Windows gives me a headache:
it gets in the way of doing what I want the
computer to do more times than not.
Because it's Godfrey, and he takes EVERY opportunity to bash Windows.
Typical MAC
The answer is simply too complex to treat briefly. There are too many
things about Windows, the Windows UI, and applications that run on
Windows that get in the way for me to articulate.
One relatively easy thing for me to relate is my work:
I do system administration contracting to pay
OK ... thanks.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 1/11/2006 9:37:31 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!
The answer is simply too complex to treat briefly. There are too many
things about
I don't see it as bashing if someone expresses a preference.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Christian
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Just curious ... how so?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Windows gives me a headache:
it gets in the way of doing what I want the
Fuck you too, Christian. meant in the nicest possible way. ]'-)
I do agree with you: all computers suck sometime. Windows just sucks
more than most, more of the time, and does less. I've worked on every
system you mention (a few others too). If you want to label me a
zealot for a line of
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I don't see it as bashing if someone expresses a preference.
You're right of course. It is his preference. I guess I'm just tired of
the windows sucks, windows sucks, windows sucks mantra from Godfrey.
And again, I think windows sucks too. And Mac, and linux, and
Christian,
Given the relatively extreme inconsistency of the Windows UI, it would
take an essay to detail what a regular user of Mac OS X would find
annoying with Windows. Godfrey was refraining from getting into all the
details, which is understandable.
I use both. I can live with both. I
Okay, boys. Both of you go to your rooms until you
can play nicely again.
--- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Fuck you too, Christian. meant in the nicest
possible way. ]'-)
I never said fuck you Godfrey, but FUCK YOU now.
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I don't see it as bashing if someone expresses a preference.
You're right of course. It is his preference. I guess I'm just tired of
the windows sucks, windows sucks, windows sucks mantra from Godfrey.
And again, I think windows sucks
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Christian wrote:
ohh, godders, do try to simplify it for my weak mind
It's too much trouble. You're not worth it.
G
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Christian wrote:
is this bottom posting ok? Or should I have posted at the top?
Please, please, tell me so I don't make another faux pas and ruin
my credibility as a computer professional.
As long as the message content is consistent and intelligible in
Thank you, Adam. You understand.
This is the Pentax discussion list. I neither have time nor want to
spend the time required to articulate the reasons for my opinion, for
exactly the reason you stated.
Godfrey
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Christian,
Given the
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Thank you, Adam. You understand.
This is the Pentax discussion list. I neither have time nor want to
But apparently you have all the time in the world to stand on a soap box
and shout Mac rulz! ad nauseum
spend the time required to articulate the reasons for my
On 2006-01-11, at 18:31, Christian wrote:
http://www.ehlke.net/os-suck.html
No Mac system is listed here :-P
--
Best regards
Sylwek
Quoted from the document. (All is in italics). I think that MAC OS is
an Apple product...
/All/ Apple OS's really suck.
NextStep is the father (or maybe the NextStep father) of OS X...
NextStep sucks, but it's pretty.
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
On 2006-01-11, at 18:31, Christian
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:12:31PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
Christian,
Given the relatively extreme inconsistency of the Windows UI, it would
take an essay to detail what a regular user of Mac OS X would find
annoying with Windows. Godfrey was refraining from getting into all the
details,
John Francis wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:12:31PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote:
If Windows was only available on as tightly-constrained a hardware
platform as Macs, and had as few applications available for it, then
it would be both as reliable and as consistent as the Mac is today.
Windows
On 11/1/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
And the video:
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content
LOL!! Excellent.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
On 11/1/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
BTW: you might learn how to top post or bottom post consistent with
how a particular thread is going. Might make your expertise as a
computer professional more credible.
yeah you big wuss ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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|| (O) |
Well, not exactly Windows, but ...
Just in case somebody didn't know,
Microsoft had an OS for Mac hardware (PowerPC) up their sleaves:
XBOX360 is running some MS-ish OS on PowerPC processors.
See e.g. here:
http://www.bit-tech.net/columns/2005/05/13/xbox_360_pc_enthusiasts/1.html
Igor
Mark Roberts wrote:
People just tend to prefer what they're most used to and always get
the most accomplished with the least effort on that platform.
Mark, I don't think you're allowed to make sensible remarks of that
nature on that subject. I'm sure it's completely illegal, somehow.
Though
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:54 PM, Cotty wrote:
[about running OS X on commodity X86 hardware]
Blocked by Apple through hardware and/or software. More info available
after the hackers do their bit.
OTOH they haven't done anything to prevent booting XP on an Intel
Mac. They just don't officially
Godfrey,
Adam's answer explains his preference for the MAC OS
Your answer was just Windows bashing...
Don't want to attack you, normally your answers are balanced, to the
point, and I appreciate them a lot. Here I feel you lost track a bit.
Hey, just my 0.02c, so take it at this value
Bart
On Jan 11, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
We'll have to wait and see how fast and good emulation of Power PC
code is?
I went to Macworld Expo today and brought along a couple of my own
PEF and DNG files. I tested RAW conversion with ACR and Photoshop CS2
editing on the new
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